Quick Facts

Series

1.	Karabor Training Grounds
2.	A Necessary Distraction
3.	Altruis

Storyline
Shadowmoon Valley Spleendid! The Second Course... The Main Course! The Path of Conquest Breaching the Path Blood Elf + Giant = ??? Tabards of the Illidari Dissension Amongst the Ranks... Besieged! To Legion Hold Setting Up the Bomb Blast the Infernals! The Deathforge Minions of the Shadow Council The Fate of Flanis The Summoning Chamber Bring Down the Warbringer! Gaining Access Invasion Point: Cataclysm The Art of Fel Reaver Maintenance The Fel and the Furious News of Victory What Strange Creatures... Frankly, It Makes No Sense... Felspine the Greater The Path of Conquest Breaching the Path When Worlds Collide... Tabards of the Illidari Dissension Amongst the Ranks... Besieged! To Legion Hold Setting Up the Bomb Blast the Infernals! The Deathforge Minions of the Shadow Council The Fate of Kagrosh The Summoning Chamber Bring Down the Warbringer! Gaining Access Invasion Point: Cataclysm The Art of Fel Reaver Maintenance The Fel and the Furious News of Victory Illidari-Bane Shard Illidari-Bane Shard Capture the Weapons Capture the Weapons The Hermit Smith The Hermit Smith Additional Materials Fresh from the Mechanar The Lexicon Demonica Underworld Loam Tear of the Earthmother Bane of the Illidari Quenching the Blade The Sketh'lon Wreckage Find the Deserter The Sketh'lon Wreckage Find the Deserter Asghar's Totem The Rod of Lianthe Sketh'lon Feathers Imbuing the Headpiece Thwart the Dark Conclave A Ghost in the Machine Harbingers of Shadowmoon Teron Gorefiend - Lore and Legend A Haunted History Spectrecles Teron Gorefiend - Lore and Legend Divination: Gorefiend's Armor Divination: Gorefiend's Cloak Divination: Gorefiend's Truncheon Teron Gorefiend, I am... Teron Gorefiend, I am... Enraged Spirits of Fire and Earth Enraged Spirits of Water Enraged Spirits of Air Oronok Torn-heart I Was A Lot Of Things... A Lesson Learned The Cipher of Damnation - Truth and History Grom'tor, Son of Oronok The Cipher of Damnation - Grom'tor's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The First Fragment Recovered Ar'tor, Son of Oronok Demonic Crystal Prisons Lohn'goron, Bow of the Torn-heart The Cipher of Damnation - Ar'tor's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The Second Fragment Recovered Borak, Son of Oronok Of Thistleheads and Eggs... The Bundle of Bloodthistle To Catch A Thistlehead The Shadowmoon Shuffle What Illidan Wants, Illidan Gets... The Cipher of Damnation - Borak's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The Third Fragment Recovered The Cipher of Damnation Karabor Training Grounds A Necessary Distraction Altruis Karabor Training Grounds A Necessary Distraction Altruis Against the Legion Against the Illidari Against All Odds Illidan's Pupil The Book of Fel Names Return to the Aldor Varedis Must Be Stopped Return to the Scryers Varedis Must Be Stopped Tablets of Baa'ri Oronu the Elder The Ashtongue Corruptors The Warden's Cage Tablets of Baa'ri Oronu the Elder The Ashtongue Corruptors The Warden's Cage Proof of Allegiance Akama Seer Udalo A Mysterious Portent The Ata'mal Terrace Akama's Promise Kindness Seek Out Neltharaku Neltharaku's Tale Infiltrating Dragonmaw Fortress To Netherwing Ledge! The Force of Neltharaku Karynaku Zuluhed the Whacked Zuluhed the Whacked Ally of the Netherwing Ally of the Netherwing Blood Oath of the Netherwing In Service of the Illidari Your Friend On The Inside The Great Netherwing Egg Hunt Enter the Taskmaster A Job Unfinished...

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Comment by 11256

It's @ 70.50 btw, you been to enter through the main gate and go right.

Comment by 14693

You'll need to face 2 level 70s at once, and they have really bad drop rate.. They randomly casts, Evasion (50% dodge) and Spellbreaker (Reduces 75% damage+healing), And they attack speed is really fast..

Comment by 17094

I dont know is anyone else has noticed the bugged agro, I had a mob from the other side of the map target me nad pull the whole lot.

I can Confirm the mobs on the deck wih the dragon can be agroed by attaking mobs the other side of the platform

Comment by 12385

when u come alle the way up at the end of the stairs u can see some stones...if u stand ringht on them the mobs cant atttack u and will run away after some time...will come in handy if u agro to many

Comment by 23060

The drop % is indeed extremely low, mobs are fairly easy tho. As warrior you can just shoot them while they are fighting eachother, you won't get aggro untill they are about to "reset" but then they come to you instead with about 30-40% hp :)

Watchout for bugged pulls tho, not sure if I was the only 1 with the problem but after I killed a pack, 2 others came right after, fear bug + bandage pwns tho :)

Comment by 20418

Co-ords : 69,50
Explanation: Just kill the Demon Hunter Supplicants and Initiates mobs there (Blood Elf) and get Glaives.
Low drop rate but they are squishy.
Just incase anyone wants to know, you have to fight up to the temple.

Comment by decker12

Watch for the 70 elite patrolling mob that doesn't take too kindly on you bashing apart his trainees..

Comment by 23774

MAJOR TIP: Kill the Initiates....not the supplicants...I have a 0% drop rate off of 20 supplicants, and a damn good 75% drop off of the initiates..Just trying to save everyone some time here. Finished quite quickly after I started killing initiates.

-Avoril
-Firetree 70 Druid

Comment by 29307

Very easy as a mage, they have very low hp so you can aoe 10 at a time, did the quest in 2 pulls.

Comment by 30539

Unless you can farm the supplicants quickly, go for the initiates. Supplicants do drop the glaive, but they don't drop anything else and the drop rate seems much lower. The % droprates listed aren't accurate.

If you get into trouble, you can run down the sloped hillside (that a sunfury blood lord pats up and down) and onto the fortress wall. All mobs evade when you're on the wall, even though it seems like they could just step onto it.

Comment by Indignation

You can pull the initiates fighting the green demon things without both pulling. :)

Comment by Yorii

The Supplicants fight each other until one of them gets to 50%, makes it easier if you pull them then.

Comment by stormeh

I'm not sure what scotepi was smoking, but the drop rate off Initiate is only ~ 20%, and ~ 10% for Supplicants

Comment by 43524

At 71,52 you can get a lot of solo and easy duo pulls. I plowed through this area as a 69 rogue, using Evasion and Blade Flurry. Though even without special powers, taking on 2 of these mobs at the same time was no problem.

It's probably completely random, but I found the drop rate to be much better up here. I killed 6 or 8 down toward the bottom of the area without a drop, then got 5 drops really quickly up top at 71,52. It's basically the top of the ramp, right outside the room where Varedis is.

Comment by Punishment

watch out for the 70 elite :P

Comment by 44622

If you go to 68,51 there are lots of pairs of supplicants sparring and already 60% health - easy for a rogue with blade flurry.

Comment by 61292

This is the Scryer version of the quest.

For the Aldor version go to:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10587

Comment by bron

Flew to 68.48 and dismounted in the upper corner. Moved east, then south along on this level and killed paired initiates and supplicants as I came upon them. I got one glaive off almost each pair, as well as a couple of arcane tomes and 10 signets. Kept a ready eye and flew up when the elite pat came by, then restarted at 68.48 to get the last i needed. Easy kills as a BM hunter.

Comment by Thxlalala

If you are a druid you can root one of the two Supplicants while they are fighting eachother, and they will not instantly aggro you, but when they are done fighting eachother.
You'll hopefully be facing two mobs with about half their HP left, and one of them is rooted. :)

Comment by 56155

2 frost mages had no problem with this quest we just nova'ed blizzard and coc used ice block to switch between aggro

Comment by 79108

I got more of my Sunfury Glaive's off the Supplicants, As a lock i was doting them both with my Demon was on them,
And yes the Cords are correct.

Comment by 33995

As a Priest I thought I would struggle here but found a nice set of fast spawn singles in a corner near Varedis. I landed on a convenient rock by some steps at 70,54, took a single patrol initiate and then proceeded up the steps to clear 9 single pulls, including the 3 that are in the room with Valredis to the left, all came single plus I could leave the Warlock untouched and pull round him too.

Comment by 79571

Drop rate sucks no matter what, cords are correct

Comment by magnetite

The way you want to pull these is much like the Shattered Hand Gladiator's in Shattered Halls. Watch their health and when it's around 60% for both of them, you won't have to take so much damage from them.

Comment by Sihmm

This is the start of the Scryer version of the Book of Fel Names chain. As well as reputation with your chosen faction, if you complete it you can choose from:
Ceremonial Kris (+heal dagger)
Slayer's Axe (2H +str axe)
Sunfury Legguards (+AP mail pants)
Hauberk of Karabor (+AP leather chest)
Summoner's Blade (+dmg sword)
Wildcaller (feral staff)

As with the Medallion of Karabor line, this chain starts different depending on whether you're Aldor (A) or Scryer (S). All the quests are rated level 70 - though the chain is available at level 68, it sends you to the Shadow Labyrinth to kill Blackheart, which you might want to hold off on until level 70.

Aldors pick it up from Exarch Onaala at the Altar of Sha'tar:
1. (A) Karabor Training Grounds
2. (A) A Necessary Distraction
3. (A) Altruis

Scryers need to visit Larissa Sunstrike at the Sanctum of the Stars:
1. (S) Karabor Training Grounds
2. (S) A Necessary Distraction
3. (S) Altruis

Here the chains converge on your old friend Altruis the Sufferer in Nagrand. He gives out three quests that need to be completed (in any order) before you can continue:
4a. Against the Legion - Netherstorm
4b. Against the Illidari - Shadowmoon Valley
4c. Against All Odds - Zangarmarsh
Having gone around the world killing stuff, you can now return to Altruis and receive:
5. Illidan's Pupil
which leads directly into
6. The Book of Fel Names

Now it's time for a venture into the Shadow Labyrinth to kill Blackheart! Once that's done that and his body has been looted for the book, it's back to Altruis where again the chains diverge depending on your allegiance.

Aldor:
7. (A) Return to the Aldor - back to Altar of Sha'tar
8. (A) Varedis Must Be Stopped

Scryer:
7. (S) Return to the Scryers - back to Sanctum of Stars
8. (S) Varedis Must Be Stopped

Varedis Must Be Stopped is the final part. It's a 5-man group quest that sends you to the terrace outside the Black Temple to kill four elites: Varedis, Netharel, Theras and Alandien. Look them up for co-ordinates and tips on killing them - they're pretty straightforward, really.

When they're dead it's a simple matter of returning to the questgiver to choose a prize.

Comment by Voltt

ok drop rate...one every 2-3 kills id say...went upto the place Netharel is on and killed guys on that platform - easy for prot pally

Comment by 20417

This quest's drop-rate is stupid-low. This can be a great grinding quest for experience because you're gonna kill a ton of blood-elves getting your glaives.

Comment by 124859

While the drop-rate was pretty annoying, I thought this quest simplified itself! The supplicants come in pairs, and they're dueling each other. Just wait until they're alllllllllllmost halfway dead (because they stop fighting and heal after that point) and then bust them up. Definitely had an easier time killing two half-health guys than two full-health ones.

Comment by Motoki

I'm not sure what all the complaining is about; I killed less than 20 elves to get all 8 glaives, and they seemed to drop fairly equally from supplicants and initiates. Maybe I just got lucky, but I was surprised how easy this quest was after reading all the comments saying otherwise.

Comment by 176946

dont aggro the ili lookin guy... he hurts... same with aldro side!

Comment by Teemu

I hate this quest, even more i hate the drop rate... >=/

Comment by Evard

If you are missing any quests for the Nagrand quest Achievement Nagrand Slam (for the Horde) this chain will lead you to more quests to finish in Nagrand.

Comment by trendon

If you have your flying mount (because I don't even think a subtlety rogue can make it), fly to the uppermost part of the structure. There are initiates (and as someone pointed out, the drop rate is better) and you can fight them solo.

Comment by 179720

It seems this quest is not avilable if u have done the quest chain with aldor first...I swiched from Aldor to Scryers and i cant get the quest, probly cos i alrdy finished the chain with Aldor...:/

Comment by mikfox

I'm exalted with Aldor atm, but I want to switch to Scryers for the feat, and I haven't done Shadowmoon yet - what Scryers rep do I need to get these quests?

Or it doesn't matter and I just need some pre-quest?

It's just this additional rep would really help me farm less basilisk eyes, if you can take these quests with rep lower than Neutral.

Comment by Thebe2

Found this a little tough as 71 Hunter
I'd suggest going up the main steps from the South and then go West first. Kill the Initiates.
Once you get the 2 camped out on the West go back east, and pick off the dueling pairs one set at a time. Found useful to freeze one dueler while taking on the other. If you get too far into the dueling pairs, they really swarm.

Comment by Lorrellei

For those attempting to start this quest the first time, you must be at least Friendly with your chosen faction. This requires completing the quest City of Light: http://www.wowhead.com/quest=10211. Good luck!

Comment by 1440987

Karabor Training Grounds http://youtu.be/MU9mZcf_q1E

Comment by Boxofbeer

Karabor Training Grounds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FbZ8nfAFi4

Comment by Aurleis1

Video Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NtASUZAofs

1. Karabor Training Grounds
• Accept the quest, Karabor Training Grounds, from Larissa Sunstrike at coords 55.8, 58.2 (Sanctum of the Stars).
• Travel northeast, to the Ruins of Karabor, to the area of 70, 51.
• Kill Demon Hunter Supplicant and Demon Hunter Initiate, looting 8 Sunfury Glaive from their corpses.
• Travel southwest, to the Sanctum of the Stars, at coords 55.8, 58.2.
• Turn in the quest to Larissa Sunstrike.

Comment by Allikazam

If you can't pick up the quests, you may need to complete these quests in Shatt'rath City first:

1. A'dal
2. City of Light
3. Allegiance to the Scryers

Once I did this, the quests were then available in the Sanctum of the Stars.

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Karabor Training Grounds

Larissa Sunstrike at the Sanctum of the Stars wants you to obtain 8 Sunfury Glaives from the Demon Hunter Supplicants and Demon Hunter Initiates at the Ruins of Karabor, northeast of the Sanctum of the Stars.

Completing quests for the Scryers will cause your Aldor reputation level to decrease.

	Sunfury Glaive (8)

Description

Our scouts have reported a massive influx of Sunfury blood elf recruits heading to the Ruins of Karabor. Normally this would represent a purely military threat, however we believe something else is amiss.

Descriptions of their attire and fighting style are suspiciously close to that of Illidan himself. I do not want to become alarmed without good reason, so I would like you to go there and bring me back their weapons. We will then determine whether my fears are unfounded or not.

Progress

Completion

Rewards

You will receive:

Gains

Upon completion of this quest you will gain:

250 reputation with The Scryers

See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(10687))