Quick Facts

Series

1.	Kindness
2.	Seek Out Neltharaku
3.	Neltharaku's Tale
4.	Infiltrating Dragonmaw Fortress
5.	To Netherwing Ledge!
6.	The Force of Neltharaku
7.	Karynaku
8.	Zuluhed the Whacked
9.	Ally of the Netherwing

Storyline
Shadowmoon Valley Spleendid! The Second Course... The Main Course! The Path of Conquest Breaching the Path Blood Elf + Giant = ??? Tabards of the Illidari Dissension Amongst the Ranks... Besieged! To Legion Hold Setting Up the Bomb Blast the Infernals! The Deathforge Minions of the Shadow Council The Fate of Flanis The Summoning Chamber Bring Down the Warbringer! Gaining Access Invasion Point: Cataclysm The Art of Fel Reaver Maintenance The Fel and the Furious News of Victory What Strange Creatures... Frankly, It Makes No Sense... Felspine the Greater The Path of Conquest Breaching the Path When Worlds Collide... Tabards of the Illidari Dissension Amongst the Ranks... Besieged! To Legion Hold Setting Up the Bomb Blast the Infernals! The Deathforge Minions of the Shadow Council The Fate of Kagrosh The Summoning Chamber Bring Down the Warbringer! Gaining Access Invasion Point: Cataclysm The Art of Fel Reaver Maintenance The Fel and the Furious News of Victory Illidari-Bane Shard Illidari-Bane Shard Capture the Weapons Capture the Weapons The Hermit Smith The Hermit Smith Additional Materials Fresh from the Mechanar The Lexicon Demonica Underworld Loam Tear of the Earthmother Bane of the Illidari Quenching the Blade The Sketh'lon Wreckage Find the Deserter The Sketh'lon Wreckage Find the Deserter Asghar's Totem The Rod of Lianthe Sketh'lon Feathers Imbuing the Headpiece Thwart the Dark Conclave A Ghost in the Machine Harbingers of Shadowmoon Teron Gorefiend - Lore and Legend A Haunted History Spectrecles Teron Gorefiend - Lore and Legend Divination: Gorefiend's Armor Divination: Gorefiend's Cloak Divination: Gorefiend's Truncheon Teron Gorefiend, I am... Teron Gorefiend, I am... Enraged Spirits of Fire and Earth Enraged Spirits of Water Enraged Spirits of Air Oronok Torn-heart I Was A Lot Of Things... A Lesson Learned The Cipher of Damnation - Truth and History Grom'tor, Son of Oronok The Cipher of Damnation - Grom'tor's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The First Fragment Recovered Ar'tor, Son of Oronok Demonic Crystal Prisons Lohn'goron, Bow of the Torn-heart The Cipher of Damnation - Ar'tor's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The Second Fragment Recovered Borak, Son of Oronok Of Thistleheads and Eggs... The Bundle of Bloodthistle To Catch A Thistlehead The Shadowmoon Shuffle What Illidan Wants, Illidan Gets... The Cipher of Damnation - Borak's Charge The Cipher of Damnation - The Third Fragment Recovered The Cipher of Damnation Karabor Training Grounds A Necessary Distraction Altruis Karabor Training Grounds A Necessary Distraction Altruis Against the Legion Against the Illidari Against All Odds Illidan's Pupil The Book of Fel Names Return to the Aldor Varedis Must Be Stopped Return to the Scryers Varedis Must Be Stopped Tablets of Baa'ri Oronu the Elder The Ashtongue Corruptors The Warden's Cage Tablets of Baa'ri Oronu the Elder The Ashtongue Corruptors The Warden's Cage Proof of Allegiance Akama Seer Udalo A Mysterious Portent The Ata'mal Terrace Akama's Promise Kindness Seek Out Neltharaku Neltharaku's Tale Infiltrating Dragonmaw Fortress To Netherwing Ledge! The Force of Neltharaku Karynaku Zuluhed the Whacked Zuluhed the Whacked Ally of the Netherwing Ally of the Netherwing Blood Oath of the Netherwing In Service of the Illidari Your Friend On The Inside The Great Netherwing Egg Hunt Enter the Taskmaster A Job Unfinished...

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Comment by Eminence

According to worldofraids.com this quest chain gives 42000 rep with "netherwing", so you end up at neutral reputation, and I guess you can then start some other quests :)

Comment by 13088

Kill the bigger Rocknails in order to get an entire carcass. Otherwise, the smaller ones drop an item that you need 5 of to combine into a carcass.

Comment by 19282

If you save up all the meats to place down one after another, make sure you don't put them down in the same spot. The drakes get a "full" debuff and no nearby drakes will come down to eat, so you'll waste meat doing that.

Comment by greengoo

How to get Neutral with Netherdrake (Netherdrake Epic Mount Quest Starter)
A list by Greengoo

1. Kindness
- Kill 8 Rocknail Flayers, Use Carcasses to Feed 8 Dragons (don't move!). Also make sure to travel a bit when laying the meat, as the same drakes won't eat twice in a row.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10804

2. Seek Out Neltharaku
- Fly on your mount and find Neltharaku, he patrols slowly around Dragonmaw about a few hundred feet up. You'll have to be about 5 yards UNDER him to talk to him.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10811

3. Neltharaku's Tale
- Listen to story.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10814

4. Infiltrating Dragonmaw Fortress
- Kill 15 of any type of orcs in the fortress.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10836

5.To Netherwing Ledge!
- Find 12 Crystals from the floating island SE of the mainland.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10837

6. The Force of Neltharaku
- Free 5 Dragons by using the item on them, then killing the orcs they agro.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10854

7. Karynaku
- Find Karynaku, she's the second story of the fortress.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10858

8. Zuluhed the Whacked
- Kill Zuluhed and recover the key. I recommend pulling him inside so as to avoid the archers, and kill him BEFORE he summons his add. Use the key he drops to free Karynaku.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10872

9. Ally of the Netherwing
- Return to Mordenai, you will immediately gain 42,000 rep and become neutral.
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10870

10. ????
- Blizzard has announced that next patch they will be introducing a continuence of this quest line, including the ability to get exalted and purchase or receive through extensive questing an EPIC netherdrake mount. You will need epic training to use it however, so save your gold!

Comment by decker12

A good place to stand and feed them is 62, 57.8. You're out of aggro range from everything around you and Ruul doesn't patrol in that spot.

Comment by 25039

question. Im a druid, don't have a flying mount, but got flight form. Same difference. I fly up to him, and he just says begone mortal.
I'm 70 of course. Just wondering if there is a prereq.

Comment by 24821

They're not Void Axes, they are Resonating Axes fyi. And this lvl is obtained at 70, right? I'm a 69 warrior and I really l like this axe's look, and stats. Could someone clarify?

Comment by greengoo

Verified: You can kill Netherstorm Netherdrakes (by switching to "at war") In order to skin them or complete quests and NOT LOSE REP.

Comment by 11049

beware, i would not download any items that is .EXE files

edit: saw a comment with a file to be downloaded, when i posted my coment that previous post is gone now.

Comment by NobodyYouKnow

<b>Mobs</b>
The rocknail flayers do a physical debuff called "flayer flesh", which increases the physical damage you take by 87ish damage you take for the next 15 seconds. Sadly, there is about one rocknail flayer per spawn. However, there is at least 10 different Rocknail spawns so lack of mobs shouldn't be an issue.

The rocknail rippers do a physical debuff called rend flesh, which is basicly a DoT. The damage DoT does is also effected by "flayer flesh". The rocknail flayers are bigger than the rocknail rippers.

Both the rocknail flayers and the rocknail rippers are melee. They do not cast anything.

Watch out for Ruul, an elite lvl 68-72 mob that wanders around the area. From a distance Ruul looks like a very large dragonkin (about two times larger than the drakes), but that is actually Ruul's mount.

Drops
The Rockanil Flayers drop a Rocknail Flayer Carcass at least 99% per kill. The rocknail rippers drop one Rocknail Flayer Giblets at least 99% per kill. If you have five rocknail flayer giblets, you can find it in your bag and right click on it to turn it into a Rocknail Flayer Carcass. For this reason, you want to kill the Rocknail Flayers as much as possible.

Feeding the drakes
There are two ways of doing this.

The first way is:
Once you have one Rocknail flayer carcass, try to find a drake. They tend to fly 100-200 yards above the ground. Once you can see one, target it and then use the rocknail flayer carcass. If you do not target a drake first, you will get a red system error saying no target. It takes about four seconds for you to drop the rocknail flayer carcass. When you do you have to stick around for up to 30 seconds before the drake you targeted lands on the ground and starts to eat the rocknail flayer carcass. Once the drake has eaten the carcass, it will have a debuff called fed. You do not get credit for feeding it until the drake lands, eats the carcass, and says something in draconic. Do not try to feed a drake with a feed debuff. This will only result in you waisting your carcasses. For this reason this quest can be a bit of a pain on PvP servers.

The second way is this:
First gather up eight rocknail flayer carcass. Then head to 67, 52. There are at least 10 hungry drakes there at any given time. Although ruul goes through the area, it is very easy to avoid him if you are watching out for him. It's virtually impossible to aggro any of the rocknails unless you aren't watching what your doing.
Target a drake and then use a rocknail flayer carcass there. It will take about three seconds for you to drop it. When you do you have to stick around for up to 30 seconds before the drake you targeted lands on the ground and starts to eat the rocknail flayer carcass. Once the drake has eaten the carcass, it will have a debuff called fed. You do not get credit for feeding it until the drake lands, eats the carcass, and says something in draconic. Do not try to feed a drake with a feed debuff. The problem with this way is the rocknail carcass has a 30 seconds cooldown, so you can only use a rocknail caracass once every 30 seconds.

Comment by Tightning

A warning to those hoping to combine this with the 'Enraged Spirits of Air' (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10481) quest: Using the carcass required to feed the drakes will also start the cooldown on using the totem for collecting air spirits, and vice versa.

Comment by 31642

The itemdrop stops when entering a raidgroup?

I was doing this quest during the time I waited for the kara invites to start, and when I was invited, the drops suddenly stopped.
I found this wierd but kept on killing.. nothing dropped..

Talked to the raidleader and left the group for a few secs, and guess what, they started to drop again.
Reported this to the GM's but I thougth I'd write it here as well.

Comment by Aisenfaire

Trivia: The dragons will eat the carcass and then tell you, "Belan shi karkun", which is apparently Draconic for "Thank you, mortal."

Comment by 41820

you need to be level 70 to get this quest.
it was grey for me at 68. :(

Comment by 19171

I completed this chain as far as it went before the 2.1 patch. I just went back to that area to continue it, and discovered that I am once again hated, but cannot get the quest again from the initial quest giver.

Has anyone else dealt with this? I don't mind having to do the chain again, but I can't seem to start it.....

Comment by 64297

same problem as him above me ,,, any fixes

Comment by blupache

Be warned: because the drake's you're feeding are hostile (red), any auto-attack 'stuff' you have active will go for them.

In my case, my Searing Totem opened fire on the drake the moment it got within range. I assume something similar, like a hunter pet on aggressive, would do the same. This both leaves you with a ~69 elite to fight and doesn't count as a successful feeding.

Comment by 91707

When you're feeding the drakes, it's ok to stay in the same location throughout the whole ordeal, however beware of Ruul the Darkener, who runs pretty fast.

Upon feeding a drake, the said drake says the following:
"Belan shi karkun."
Anyone fluent in Draconic who can translate this?

Comment by 88673

For a strange reason carcass share cooldown with Totem of spirits

Comment by 146332

Does anyone know what the prequest is for this? I have checked back several times and he doesn't have it for my lock. I have done it on 3 others toons but just started questing SMV on my lock and got his epic flight over the weekend so wanted to start netherwing rep also.

Comment by n4pst3r

It´s very easy line of quests. It´s take about one hours. I worked alone, only one protection paladin help me with killing Zuluhed.

I´m 70lvl Warlock (20-0-41)

Comment by 166688

I have this problem where I can't get the quest :S. I am lvl 70, got 300 riding skill... but I just can't get the quest. I have got the one "Blood Oath blabla...".

Please help me out!!!

Comment by Felanthor

One thing that was a pain when i was doing this quest is the level 71 elite that roams about. Ruul the darkener. So just a heads up watch out for him.

Comment by 140907

I guess its also a Scryer only quest. I tried to start it today and realized the area was defended by Scryers. Mind you I've been farming Aldor since I hit 70.

Comment by 72892

it is not Scryer only...i have it in my quest log and am honoured with Aldor. Wasn't available till i hit 70 though.

Comment by Bsmx93

After feeding the drake, it will say in Draconic: "Belan shi karkun." What I guess they are saying is: "Thank you mortal."

Comment by 65239

There's a nice guide for the whole quest line, all the way up to exalted, with screenshots and directions.
I've tried it and it worked great for me, anyway here's the link, hope it helps.

Netherdrake Mount Guide

Comment by Zazkia

You want to kill mostly Rocknail Flayers, because they drop 1 carcass each, whereas the Rocknail Rippers only drop1/5th. The crystals in the zone are usually surrounded by multiple Rippers and one Flayer that is patrolling around. It is hard to pull a single Flayer without getting a Ripper add. If you want to avoid fighting two mobs, create a "gap" by pulling and killing a Ripper first. Then, when the Flayer passes the gap, you can safely pull it solo.

Of course we're all 1337 enough to fight two mobs, but I found my mana lasted longer if I onlu had to deal with one at a time.

Comment by Valdan

All extra parts of meat and meat u have will be cleared from your bags. I was looking for extras when i realised he took them from me :) No need to look for them.

Comment by 258663

Im lvl 80, and im trying to get a drake

when i finished the "Kindness" quest i didnt get any reputation, only gold then i completed more quests. Got to The Force of Neltharaku and through out all those quests i didnt get any reputation raise, does anyone know why?

Comment by 63427

i cant get this quest @ level 80. he just says "They can't keep this up! Their wings will eventually give..."

am i suppose to do a quest inorder to get this quest .. ? please post quest/link D:

Comment by 310214

i don't know why there is no carcasses drop ..
i trayed much time but no carcasses drop in every time ..is there an error somewhere ..
im now 14820/36000 reputation with Netherwing and still in war whit them and i can remove it and red reputation bar and they don't attack me ..
i also did some of the quest for them before fo do kidness quest .. and even those prob i have a drake flying ride and im using it ..
im using 2.4.3 patch (if that will help u find the problem)...
and im also a 70 lvl warrior ..
pleaz help .. and thank in advance ..

Comment by Panas

This quest is obviously glitched for me too ive killed about 30 flayers and rippers and no giblets or carcasses have dropped whats the deal Im a Lvl 80 war and just got my artisan flying skill

Comment by 144868

The quest chain does count for the Loremaster Achievement.

Comment by cedricm

I am 80 and before getting the quest,
I had to find him.
He was attacking a Rocknail so I helped him.

Only then did I get the quest.

i hope this helps.

Comment by LiveeviL

Where can i find the guys that offer this quest? kindness.. the one that starts the quest so i can get the epic mount : ty

Comment by 354760

ik ill those Rocknails but i don't get those carcasses. help plz :)

Comment by Pwrswitchd

wen i lay the carcass do i move away or stay there?

Comment by 385471

me to.. pls someone help! :)

Comment by 432266

Lightweave Cloak enchant evidently procs off of the act of laying down the carcass and can aggro the drakes

Comment by Shallwe

ok so I got the first part of the quest and killed the flayers and fed them all the skins got the little ? to turn it in but cannot find Mordenai anywhere around the ? Can anyone give me any input as to why ? I am aldor repped. Does this make a difference ?

Comment by MSC545

Don't even bother with any of the above. After doing the kindness quest, you will find out that there is no NPC to turn it in to. The one you got it from is gone.

Lately I've been seeing this a lot; Bliz needs to get it together a bit.

Comment by Eldarias

I am on this quest now and have killed about 18 Flayers and alot more Rippers and they have not dropped any carcasses. Anyone else finding this?

Comment by 761254

why they won't eat? :/

Comment by Blaix

You can complete this in a group. If you have two players in your group, essentially one could collect all the carcasses and feed the drakes and you will both get credit, or you could both gather 4 carcasses each, etc.

Comment by 817932

"Belan shi karkun" means "Thank you, mortal."

Comment by 826777

I completed the kindness quest by feeding 8 drakes. My quest log says complete, a question mark appears on the minimap where Mordenai is located, but he is never there. Nor is he wandering anywhere else in the vicinity. Bug or do I need to do something else, like raise my rep?

Comment by victoriouss

I cannot even accept this quest because I can't get down there because they all attack me :( Someone please help me.

Comment by 831940

having the same problem. Quest is marked as complete, but nobody around to turn the quest in. Any ideas?

Comment by 717646

For the ones having trouble with the guy not showing up, try relogging. I've had a similar issue happen to me with the dragon not showing up (who you talk to after turning in this quest) where the question mark was.

After I relogged, I was able to speak to him in another location.

Comment by 916695

One of the best mounts in WoW

Comment by 884231

Seems like many people have had the problem of find Mordenai after they have completed the "Kindness" quest. And like many of you I got frustrated,expecially after I found there's a 17hr + waiting list for a ticket. Anyway,I decided to search through WoWhead a little bit and found some people had found him in spots other than where he gave you the quest. Personaly,I found him at 62,60. So befor getting upset.Take some time and fly around eventually you WILL find him.

Comment by scpovey

Killed about 30 or so, didn't see a single carcass drop. Not sure what the problem is?

Comment by thirteene

few things to note:
1. he engages mobs and his quest ! will dissapear /tar mor will help
2. the carcasses on kindness have a long cd, if your higher level make sure to drop as you get them
3. you can only have 5 gibblets at a time so make sure to make them as you get them
4. dont place any ticking aoe on the ground, the mature drake will get hit and you wont get credit for the quest

Comment by 1004822

after i finished this quest. the quest giver disappeared. he shows up on my mini map as a "?" but when i go to the ground hes no where to be found. anyone know how to help me with this problem?

Comment by THRobinson

Had probs at first, I'd kneel and walk back and wait and nothing happened... was getting up too soon. When your character kneels and places the carcass, wait until they stand up, don't get up as soon as it's been placed. After I did that, I had no probs.

Comment by Starken

Do not remove the quest items even if you know that you got one feed item anyways it will reset the quest and remove it from your quest log, The feed item and the scraps that you need 5 to create one feed item will be deleted aswell.

Comment by 1055395

Having trouble finding this guy. I'm level 90 and am trying to find him to start the netherwing rep grind. I know I haven't done the quest before and I have low level quests tracked.

Comment by nekrokat

What if I accepted once a quest, then abandoned, because my quest log was full, and then can't find Mordenai at his place? I used /tar Mordenai, but nothing happened. Where is he gone? Picnicking with the fel orcs?
Sad druid is sad.

Comment by Aliandrin

When you lure a Mature Netherwing Drake down with a carcass, make sure to kill it. Kill it right after it says "thank you" in Draconic. (They're skinnable.)

Comment by suburbanmisfits

For those who are just starting this grind in MoP: Do not discard the giblets before you finish the quest. Deleting the giblets or carcasses from your inventory automatically makes you abandon the quest. A tad frustrating, I must say.

Comment by 1440987

Kindness http://youtu.be/P4_GaDmQWJI

Comment by Boxofbeer

Kindness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3hM9utbxM

Comment by WoWGnGP

i made i playthrough of this quest if anyone wish to see how to do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nioq7BeB6Pk&feature=youtu.be

Comment by Beace

I had some issues with this quest. Each time, the dragon would aggro me after I placed the carcass, no matter what I did. After a few attempts, I realized it was my Arcane Familiar pet (arcane mage talent) attacking the drake. After removing the Familiar pet, things progressed as normal.

Comment by juliaz

Kill Rocknail Rippers in the area and use the item that they give.

Comment by robcjacob

Commenting here for people in the 9.0 pre-patch looking for answers as to why there are no more quests for your Shadowmoon Valley (Outlands) Loremaster. I did have to get 310 flying for the next "!" exclamation point/quest marker to pop on the map. I did all the possible quests on the map that were marked (last one was where you rescue the green drake). I then tried and killed the Arvoar dude 2 times and never got any quest drop. The second I got 310 flying, the quest marker popped up. GLHF

Comment by Ceraina

Adding a couple of things I learned the hard way while completing this quest line on two toons:

1. If you wait to complete this quest line during the Burning Crusade Timewalking event, you will get a lot more rep toward the Netherwing faction.
2. If someone else is doing this quest at the same time, make sure you do not place your carcasses near them and/or at the same time. Only one drake comes down, even if there are multiple carcasses. And only the person who put the first one down will get credit.

Comment by Celaderith

The quest is in the game for years, still the same bugfest as before. It is RNG if the drake will even fly to the food and when it does, it is RNG if the feeding will count towards quest. Wasted 2h on it.

Comment by Moosplauze

To get to Shadowmoon Valley from Orgrimmar, go to the lower level portal room and there take the portal to Shattrath. From there you will have to fly/walk to Shadowmoon Valley.

Comment by Grubitsch

For whatever reason, the Rocknail Flayer Carcass items that you need to use for this quest share a cooldown with the Totem of Spirits from the quest Enraged Spirits of Air , making these quests very difficult to do together even though they're in the same general area. All quest items in this zone seem to trigger each others' cooldowns.

Comment by Featherblood

If you're like me and couldn't figure out how to get the quest, the quest giver (Mordenai) walks around the area and isn't found where the icon is shown on the map. I found him at 62.78 60.04.

Comment by RicochetUK

I don't know if it's changed since Dragonflight, but the drakes now say "Golad asj, revola." after they eat the meat. Has anyone tried this with a dracthyr?

Links

Kindness

Mordenai at Netherwing Fields in Shadowmoon Valley wants you to feed 8 Mature Netherwing Drakes.

	Mature Netherwing Drake fed (8)
	Rocknail Flayer Carcass (8)
	Rocknail Flayer Giblets (5)

Description

Something has them spooked, <race>.

<Mordenai points to the nether drakes flying overhead.>

They won't even come down to feed. I have seen several fall to the earth, dead from exhaustion before their bodies hit the ground.

We must save them! The Rocknail flayers that are found near the crystals are their natural prey. Kill flayers and take their carcasses. Place a carcass in the field and stand extremely still. As long as you do not make any aggressive motions, they will not attack you.

Progress

Completion

Rewards

You will receive:

Gains

Upon completion of this quest you will gain:

See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(10804))

Guides

A Week in Shattrath: Farming Outland Mounts and Pets