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评论来自 Nimr0d

Worth getting on tanking gloves? Or should I get +agi instead?

评论来自 37463

Curious to know whether this stacks with paladin "Righteous Fury"...

评论来自 82246

Mats are:

Nexus Crystal x4
Large Brilliant Shard x6
Larval Acid x8

Dont be like me and get the mats listed here only to find out they are wrong when trying to enchant it...lol

评论来自 65062

For Tankadins:
This stacks with Righteous Fury multiplicatively.
So you would generate 194% threat.

10 Spelldamage = ~6 Threat Per Second
Therefor this enchant is equivalent to 20 spelldamage at ~570 Threat per second.
If you can output over 570tps, go for this enchant.
If you output under 570tps, go for 20 Spelldamage.

Other enchants to conisder:
Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=25080)
Enchant Gloves - Spellstrike (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=33994)
Vindicator's Armor Kit (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=25651)
(Heavy) Knothide Armor Kit (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=34330)

评论来自 wingman

Im considering putting this enchant on my warlock's fire resistant gloves for tanking demon-form Leo. Any feedback from others who have tried this?

评论来自 26796

As a protect warrior, I have 1.49 bonus to gain aggro
2% of that, give me 1.52% ... around +3% aggro
That mean i have free heroic on every 30th hit on mob. I have 1.60 speed weapon -->> 37 hit in minute (w/o parry bonus) - I do 37 HS = 333 rage ... 1/30 of that = +11 rage in minute.
That only if i spam heroik

评论来自 100470

I think a simple rule for tanking is to use this enchant untill your hit rating and expertise rating are starting to reach 100% hit chance(142 and 66 respectfully). Once you start to reach those numbers switch to Glove Reinforcements- https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=34207 Armor is better then stamina and the armor enchant packs more stat points then the stamina one. Shield spikes are also useful for threat untill your hit chance gets better.

评论来自 144395

Prot Pallies should go with this enchant over +20 spell damage if they are already pushing 700+ tps. It scales very well with spell damage over 200.

EDIT: I didn't see all of the discussion before I posted >_> Thorgred hit the nail on the head.

评论来自 Thottbot

Permanently enchant gloves to increase threat from all attacks and spells by 2%.

It's for tanks... has nothing to do with crit chance, makes ALL their attacks do 2% more aggro, so its very nice.

评论来自 Thottbot

this is awesome, its about time that they make more and more enchants that do more than jus tsilly buffs, i think that u should be able to get just about anything u can get from an item (except for uber procs, of course) from a really hard to do enchant.
the enchant itself is awesome, your MT is now 2% more effective(to those of you who think that 2% is not worth it, it is. 2% is 2%, its still MUCH better than nothing)

评论来自 Thottbot

Word is that the enchant drops off the Twin Emps in AQ.

评论来自 Thottbot

This is a very nice enchant, seeing as aggro gaining abilities doesn't scale with items.

评论来自 Thottbot

the 2% threat to spells also affect a warriors shout, aka demoralizing, and others. This isnt really that great when u think about it but its better then nothing

评论来自 Thottbot

Specifically the Twin Emps in AQ40. One is immune to melee and spits out shadow based damage. Warlocks get 75 shadow resists that no other class can get (MD Felhunter + Demon Armor)

As far as anyone saying "30% reduction from soul link too", it's not reduction, it's divertion. If you do Twin Emps with soul link, your healers have to watch your pet too. I would rather have my healers looking at one bar instead of two.

评论来自 Thottbot

A druid critting with a nuke heal ccan reach up to 6k healing. Tell me that doesn't cause a lot of threat

评论来自 Thottbot

Seems like this enchant is actually targeted at paladins (and druids and shaman I suppose, but I play a pally) first, then warriors. Much of a pally's threat generation comes from holy damage (judgments, consecrations, holy shock, seal procs, and retribution aura). This enchant will give its added threat to both white (physical) and yellow (holy) damage. Without any sort of taunt ability, a tanking paladin can use any sort of threat enhancement he can find. Once I get my tanking set sorted out, I'll decide if this or a Core Armor Kit goes on my Deathbone Guardian Gauntlets.

Of course, the problem comes when the hybrid class has to drop back and heal, and now his healing is generating more threat than usual. Obviously, this is worse for a druid than a paladin, but druids have threat-reduction talents that should compensate.

评论来自 Thottbot

This isn't exactly made for warlocks and the twin emps fight. Tanks have spells also; their shouts. And pre 2.0, these were amazing aggro grabbing abilities. Shouts agro was nerfed in 2.0, but even pre-2.0, +15 agi is better for warrior and druid tanks. Cannot speak for pallies as I don't have one.

评论来自 Thottbot

That yeah- locks tank during twin emps but honestly, this is an expensive enchant and locks wont want to get this enchant JUST for that boss. itll make life a helluva a lot harder when they are doing basically anything else. it also that no one does AQ anymore as BC has come out. and tanks really need this, unless they make a better one (greater threat or w/e)it is a must have for end game tanks.

Tarnal, NE Warrior

评论来自 Thottbot

Tbh this is pretty usefull even at lvl 70, tho people say its not good cause you aggro very easy at high lvl :P some BS i say, but at lvl 70 its easy to get. i just DE'ed my old epics lol

评论来自 Thottbot

"Formula: Enchant Gloves - Threat: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Sha'tar Quartermaster. The reagents required have been adjusted to match the level 70 content."

评论来自 Thottbot

Overall the added AP/BLOCK is just better. You do more and take less dmg helping out quite a bit on those long intensive raid fights. Obviously everyone knows the tanks job is not dmg, but why not? I ask you why not help where ever you can? "forest gump" and thats all i have to say about that. =x

I wanted to edit this comment a little. I'm not shooting for AP it's just a bonus from additional strength. Agility adds minimal armor at 12, and crit rating is chance. AP is consistant. Further more, The majority of the "true" tanking gear comes with Stamina & Strength

Romanir
Drenden
Alliance FTW!

评论来自 Thottbot

Would this enchant or 20 spell power enchant be better for a paladin tank?

评论来自 Thottbot

wats better for a prot pally +2% threat or +20 spell dmg?

评论来自 Thottbot

people talk about what they have tanked and how they all know better but most of u as posted befor not got a clue or just missing the point.

To me the point of this enchant as one of the MT of my guild is that the rest of the guild can put out MORE dps on a mob I am tanking.

评论来自 Thottbot

I'm doing some math and I'm leaning to this simple rule:

AoE-tanking - Go for 20 spell-dmg. To get the same amount of threat with 2% more (from spellpower) you would need a lot of spellpower, more than is possible (about 3800 if I do my math right)

20
x 2 (8 second spell)
x 1,9 (talents for threat)
x 50 (for it to be as effective as 2% more threat)
= 3800

Single target tanking - Go for 2% threat. It doesen't take much spellpower for this to be more effective that 20 more on gloves, just over 250 would be enough depending on weaponspeed.

20
x 0,092 (coefficient for weapondmg)
x 1,6 (weaponspeed)
x 1,9 (talents for imp. threat)
x 50 (same as above)
= 280

The "normal" hits with 2% threat (counting at 150-ish) equals just over 10 spellpower in terms of threat

For Holy Shield it's 1 more dmg per charge of the shield. Just 95 spelldmg makes 2% threat equal for holy shield-threat.

(95 x 0,02 / 1,9 = 1)

My conclution: if you are at 400 spellpower raidbuffed 2% threat is a better option for an all-round better threat but it also depends much on your tanking style.

DISCLAMER: All formulas for calculating spelldmg is from the wowwiki-chapter about spelldamage. If they are incorrect, the results may not be accurate.

评论来自 Thottbot

"For Holy Shield it's 1 more dmg per charge of the shield. Just 95 spelldmg makes 2% threat equal for holy shield-threat."

dont you forget righteous fury? "increase threat generated by holy spells by 110%"

评论来自 Thottbot

I will give an example of +2% threat:

Example:-

Your are tank and you hit a 1000 white damage and gain 500 agro, whith the +2% threar you do not get 500 agro, you get 510 agro, this 2% increase increases you agro

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is a pretty impressive enchant, shame it requires such insane materials...

评论来自 Allakhazam

I would really like to get this enchant on Hellscream/Horde. If you have this could you please send an in game mail to Koral

Thanks!

Koral
70 Feral Druid Tank
Guardians of Lordaeron
Hellscream/Horde

评论来自 Allakhazam

I would like to know if any 1 on lightning blade has this enchant . If u do plz hit me up in game with the same name . Alliance side Night elf Warr.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Where and what lvl of Rep do you need for this enchant

评论来自 Allakhazam

Drop off the twin emperors.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Insane materials?

When you get MC on lamer status you get atleast 20 nexus crystals per run and i think its a recipe dropped in AQ 20

评论来自 Allakhazam

The problem with this is that no one dones pre BC content anymore. This means NExus Crystals actualy cost far more then Voids, if they are even in the AH.

Why waste a massive amount of money or time getting this, when you can 15str for a laughable 12 dust and 1 essence. Thats penny cash compared to what this wants, if it costed you anything at all, get your trash DEed.

I don't think this is worth getting by any means. +2% isn't worth the costs, especially if you keep aggro decent enough already, in such cases it doesn't do anything at all. The same can't be said about STR, no matter how well your threat is, it isn't going to waste since it causes you to do more dmg and block for more, where as this is nothing if you already keep aggro. It makes alot more sense to get the STR, you kill a little bit faster, doing more dmg means more threat anyway, and then STR gives Block on top of it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Tanking caster emperor ;)

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附魔手套 - 威胁

附魔手套 - 威胁
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Enchant Item：+2% 威胁（2613）
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