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评论来自 TheStatman

New version of Elder Charm of Good Fortune, 魔古命运符石/魔古命运符石 replaces 长者的好运护符/长者的好运护符 as of 5.2.

These are the bonus roll currency for 5.2 raid encounters (Throne of Thunder bosses, and the world bosses Nalak the Storm Lord, and Oondasta).
Cap is 10 20, ~~and still only 3 a week~~. ~~except for the~~ Rare chance to get some from Lei Shen's Burial Trove. Purchasable on the Timeless Isle.

评论来自 perculia

For Patch 5.2:

While Charms won’t be converted, 次级好运护符 will no longer be used to purchase 长者的好运符 in patch 5.2. Instead 次级好运护符 will purchase 魔古命运符文. They’ll be purchasable in the same way; once a week, 50 次级好运护符 can be converted to 3 魔古命运符文 via a quest in your faction’s Shrine. 魔古命运符文 will be usable for bonus rolls on 5.2 raid and world bosses only. 长者的好运符 will continue to be used for bonus rolls on 5.0 raids and world bosses, and will now be acquired as item drops by killing enemies in the new 5.2 Thundering Isle outdoor zone.

This currency is getting some changes in 5.4:

You can't get it from 魔古命运符石 anymore, that quest is going away.
You can get them on the 永恒岛 for 0 永恒铸币, which doesn't take a lot of time to farm. (now hotfixed)
You can now get battle pets from bonus rolls in 雷电王座, so if you like pets, you should still keep some of these coins.
雷电王座 pets: 意志之子 from 黑暗意志, 活化小沙粒 from Council, 季鹍雏凤 from 季鹍, 活化液体 from 普利莫修斯 LFR, 恐怖黏液怪 from 普利莫修斯 Normal and Heroic, 迷你恐角龙 from 赫利东.

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评论来自 1091366

3 of these are purchasable in the same way as "Elder Charm of Good Fortune" by turning in 90 "Lesser Charm of Good Fortune" to the NPC (Elder Lin) at Shrine of sever stars (for alliance players)..

评论来自 1105442

If you already have the quest for Elder Charms of Good Fortune from before the patch, you have to abandon that quest to get the new quest to get the Mogu Runes.

评论来自 esXXI

Rarely you can loot these in the Troves of The Thunder King scenario. Not sure whether it's from the large brown chests or from the golden chests after your timer runs out. Hopefully someone can confirm which after more runs have been done.

评论来自 1106334

Im unable to get this quest on one of my characters. I don't have the previous version and I haven't turned it in.

I was able to get it on my alt though...

评论来自 Vifor

You can use those to roll for bonus loot multiple time on same week on same boss.
I hope it helps.

评论来自 addicted2

so, now, on a new 90.. i cannot get any tokens to roll with in the 5.0 raids, until i do the thunder isle dailies? i need better gear than i have just to survive those.. any other ways to get the older runes of fate?

评论来自 Apollion

Can one get a Thunderforged item through the use of one of these coins?

评论来自 SaveToTheADrive

Apparently my fate is to receive 25 gold. A lot.

评论来自 1106169

While most ppl seem to agree that the drop rate for items as against just gold is quite low, this is not always the case.

Yesterday in 1 run of each of 赞达拉的背水一战 and 被遗忘的深渊 I acquired 5 items, 2 from drops and the others from rolls. They were 静电爆破长袍, 微光甲壳斗篷, 佐治亚的纯心羽杖 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=95712. The 5th item I DE'd as it was either not an upgrade or was a duplicate of a drop

I could only roll 4 times because that was all the coins I had, and 4 items were an upgrade.

Maybe there is now a better drop rate from Bosses and coins. Maybe I was just very lucky. We wait and see

I checked and the 5th item was 赫利东的獠牙碎片

评论来自 Baddogg117

how do you use? Just killed Galleon and wasn't ask if I wanted to roll?

评论来自 906593

Is it possible to get 4 of these from the weekly somehow? I have 7 of these, two weeks at 90, and zero thunder/world bosses killed on this particular alt. It's rather baffling.

评论来自 Eillesthis

You now only need 50 Lesser Charm of Good Fortune, down from 90, for 魔古命运符石/魔古命运符石.

评论来自 Cymre

I was surprised to find one in Lei Shen's Burial Trove (looted at the end of the Troves of The Thunder King scenario) using one of the Burial Trove Keys I collected. This doesn't appear to happen too frequently though as I have run this scenario many, many times.

评论来自 Quackie

Don't make the mistake I did - I had 9 and turned in the quest. They stack at 10 and you will only receive 1. I've been busy with school and haven't had any time to raid, but I would log on and do the single weekly quest for the runes. If you get up to 8 or 9, raid and spend 1 or 2 before turning in the quest again. I hope other people can learn from my mistake.

评论来自 IHazMourne

Just to let everybody know if you kill a boss on heroic then your raid leader changes it to normal before you use your coin you wont get loot, gold or even lose a coin. At least this is the case with H Jin'rohk, don't bother asking a GM to do something about it because since it didn't use a coin they are apparently "Unable to randomize loot you would have gotten"

评论来自 Pzypro

Oddly enough, I can't google or seem to find this info anywhere...

Can anyone confirm that you can receive battle pets/mounts and secrets of the empire/titan runestones from appropriate bonus rolls? (whether mogu runes of fate or elder charms of good fortune). I'm not sure I ever got any non-gear items from said bonus rolls.

评论来自 1129123

Wondering what's the deal if you get a chance to roll when you have already looted a boss? Anyone? I don't wanna risk a coin in doing so lol

评论来自 Neza1337

If you already are locked for a raid, can you still run the raid and use your rune of fate to get more loot?
Might be a nooby / dumb question, but i'd be glad if i got an answer :) Thx.

评论来自 830214

i used 8 in TOT raid finder and did'nt get any loot

评论来自 174727

I may be alone in this, but I feel like after you get the 3 from the quest that you should be able to turn in 50 more lessers for 1 rune. I have 550 lesser charms that aren't getting used, and now that they're dropped from almost everything it's not hard to come across 50 a week. 14 bosses a week and only 3 runes makes it hard to decide which ones to bonus roll for, then factoring in you dont always get loot makes it frustrating to say the least.

评论来自 1143163

Just got 1x Mogu Rune of Fate from a chest in Troves of the Thunder King, the ones you open with a Burial Trove Key.

评论来自 1135007

got so much of these i got a fatality

评论来自 Maelchav

Any idea what the next iteration of this will be, for Siege of Orgrimmar?

评论来自 LostDrewid

These require a ridiculous amount of farming on the Timeless Isle now that 5.4 has dropped. 2500 永恒铸币 each, which translates to a minimum of 25 large elites or a hundred or more smaller mobs. 0 永恒铸币 *each* mind you, not even a set of three. So to get just one week's worth, it takes 75 to 300 mobs, give or take. More, that's 0 永恒铸币 less to spend on gear on the Isle. 1H weapons barely cost more than that.

Exceptionally disappointed in Blizzard for this. Greater Charms were easy enough to acquire in 5.2, but these will be in no way as easy to acquire now in 5.4.

Thankfully, the community spoke and were heard. As Perculia noted below Bashiok announced that the price will be dropping; and as Pointblank noted , the price per Rune is indeed 0 永恒铸币. Just went to confirm it myself on live servers, since it's not yet listed in hotfixes.

I'm still not convinced that's the *right* price for the amount of effort Mogu Runes of Fate deserve, but it's a damn sight nicer than 2500 each. I do not concur with Bashiok's commentary that we don't *need* the Runes of Fate. Not because none of us actually need the coins to begin with , but because the Isle lets us skip right to Orgrimmar. I'm sorry, maybe I'm weird, but I was actually looking forward to gearing my alts for Throne of Thunder. I like the instance, it was fun, and it would have been fun to be a different class in ToT than just Druid. Ah well. I'll take the victory we have.

ETA: Okay, so, it's been over a week on the Isle, and we've all gotten to know the worth of Timeless Coins a little better. Is a thousand coins a lot? No, not particularly. But look at it this way. Who most *needs* Mogu Runes of Fate? A fresh 90 -- because face it, you still need to run ToT to gear up before you can go to Orgrimmar. Even if you manage to hit the minimum gear requirements for Orgrimmar on Raid Finder, you're not likely to contribute meaningfully to the group at that level. {Provided you care about contributing meaningfully, which personally I do.} So Throne of Thunder is still a required step for the new 90, no matter which difficulty of raid you plan to join. So the next question: who most needs Timeless Coins? Oh right, that new 90, because on top of everything else you might need to spend coins on, there's also the 0 永恒铸币 price tag on a weapon . Not to mention how important getting 0 永恒铸币 is for the trinket.

I just got my Paladin to 90. Because he's a blacksmith, I still needed to go to the Isle of Thunder to pick up the Lightning Ingot plans. While there, for no real reason than because I could, I grabbed a Key to the Treasure Trove. One very short run later, I had 9 长者的好运符, and the only reason I didn't have a full 20 was because the last two were in a single chest, preventing me from looting them. It cost me *nothing* but time to get those coins, and precious little at that. Those same 0 魔古命运符文 would take me one to two nights to farm, and would leave me without a new sword. There is a huge discrepancy between earning 长者的好运符 and 魔古命运符文. I don't care how quick it is to farm 0 永恒铸币, it's specifically hurting the characters who can afford it least.

评论来自 Virus2001

You can buy them from Mistweaver Ai on Timeless Isle for 1,000 Timeless Coins

评论来自 1145884

Is it even possible anymore to get these runes since patch 5.4?

评论来自 MrTruthSayer

Do not forget that the drop rate of items have been increased from the ToT raid. So adding these runes will greatly increase your chances of getting more gear.

评论来自 BananaBomb

As of patch 5.4, is it possible to get 帝国秘史 from these bonus rolls of the Mogu Rune of Fate ?

评论来自 Pinkpaw

I have a question about LFR Throne of Thunder, can anyone confirm this. I did LFR, and i spent extra rolls. Then i went back cus i wanted to try my healing some, same bosses and it offers me the chance to bonus roll. I taken the roll but didnt recive anything. Now i want to know if anyone tryed this and gotten a item? Can you use more then 1 mogu on the same boss if you go back ?

评论来自 MrTruthSayer

The companion pets in ToT as well as SoO, can now be looted via Bonus Rolls.

5.4 patch notes states this and one of my guild members received an oozling off Sha of Pride from his bonus roll.

评论来自 Sponsz

If you buy those regularly on a lot of alts and in large numbers, the confirmation dialog can be quite annoying.

This macro will help you get them in large numbers at once:

/run BuyMerchantItem(7,20)

Beware:

First number in brackets indicates the item index (which can vary from class to class, so beware.
The index is build like this: 1st row left to right, 2nd row, left to right, and so on. Be sure to not user any vendor-modding addons.
Second number indicates the amount to buy.

评论来自 matoh

Question: as of WOD, can you use this multiple times in a week for bonus roll in Oondasta and Nalak? Or you can only use this once a week?

评论来自 pilgrimz

As of the release of patch 6.2 there appears to be a bug with Mistweaver Ai, who sells these. You can buy her other items, but not these for some reason - they're there in her inventory but right-clicking on them does absolutely nothing. I've placed a bug report and will update with new information.

评论来自 1032870

** Edit ** This bug seems to be fixed now.

These coins are bugged as of 6.2, and you cannot buy them directly. Use this macro instead:

/run BuyMerchantItem(4,1)

(You have to be near the NPC and with the vendor window opened)

评论来自 jjanchan

***LEGION UPDATE: The new bonus roll currency for Legion launch is 破碎命运印记. Also, Legion will increase the cap for 既定命运印记 from 10 to 20. This has preemptively been updated below.***

This is one of the extra roll currencies that were first introduced in Mists of Pandaria. It allows you to roll (at a cost of 1 currency per roll) for an extra chance at loot on certain world, raid or dungeon bosses.

This extra loot is granted directly to the person rolling and is not part of the group/party's loot for that boss. The majority of the time the roll does not yield loot - when this is the case, gold is granted instead. Certain currencies also can grant pets or mounts as part of the bonus loot - this will vary depending on boss (a list of mounts and pets you can bonus roll for is listed later in this comment).

There is protection for bad luck on bonus rolls. As per a blue post:

Whenever you use a bonus roll and you don’t get any loot, your chance of getting loot on the next roll will increase. This increased probability won’t be reset until some loot is awarded, and this is independent of the boss that is being killed.
The bad luck streak protection will carry over and continue to increase the probability from boss to boss and instance to instance and won't reset until you get some loot.

For all currencies, World Bosses will only allow a single roll a week. This can be on any kill - if you kill a boss more than once and pass on rolling the first time, you will still have the option of doing so on a subsequent kill that week.
For most currencies you can kill bosses in a single or multiple lockouts/difficulties (kill a boss on both Heroic and Normal, or a Heroic boss twice) to also get a bonus roll chance EACH time. For example, you can kill 格鲁尔 on Heroic difficulty twice, and while you will be able to get loot directly from the boss only once, you can bonus roll both times for extra chances at loot.
The above is NOT true for Mythic raids however - those lockouts prevent you from doing multiple bosses in one week.

The currencies listed can be found on the currency tab in your character screen. Below is a table summarizing the currency types, including sources for each.
NOTE: NPC locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

Legion
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
破碎命运印记	Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from 大法师兰达洛克 (Dalaran - Legion) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	1000	2000	4000
Order Resources	1000	2000	4000

暗夜要塞
翡翠梦魇
Mythic dungeons
Legion World Bosses:
鬼母阿娜
 卡拉米尔
 冷血的杜贡
 浮骸
 胡墨格里斯
 勒凡图斯
 魔王纳扎克
 尼索格
 沙索斯
 The Soultakers
凋零者吉姆

Warlords of Draenor
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
钢化命运印记	A) Sold by vendors: 觅晨者科塞克 (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* 鸦语者塞尔纳斯 (Tanaan Jungle) - 240-300g* 命运扭曲者赛瑞斯 (Stormshield) - 300g 命运扭曲者提拉尔 (Warspear) - 300g *NOTE - Cost from vendors in Tanaan vary with reputation level with 觉醒教派, with lowest cost being 240g at Exalted reputation. B) Obtained from garrison missions: 毁灭者多弗鲁克玛	悬槌堡黑石铸造厂 Draenor World Bosses: 毁灭者多弗永恒的塔尔纳鲁克玛	20
既定命运印记	A) One per week can be obtained from 矮人地堡 / 战争工坊等级3 in your garrison. Speak to 戈伦莱克 (H)/克里斯汀·石铸 (A) to obtain your weekly seal. *NOTE - This seal counts as 1 of the maximum 3 seals you can obtain per week. B) Obtainable (maximum 3 per week) from 命运扭曲者提拉尔 (Warspear)/命运扭曲者赛瑞斯 (Stormshield) for various currencies, as below.	1st	2nd	3rd
Gold	500	1000	2000
Garrison Resources	1000	2000	4000
Apexis Crystals	500	1000	2000

*NOTE - If you already obtained 1 from your 矮人地堡 / 战争工坊等级3, only 2 more can be obtained for currency that week.

C) One seal obtainable for completing the Timewalking Bonus Event quest 燃烧的时光之路 (during Burning Crusade Timewalking, 冰冻的时光之路 (during Wrath of the Lich King Timewalking) or 崩裂的时光之路 (during Cataclysm Timewalking). The seals are in addition to the 3 seals per week otherwise obtainable.

地狱火堡垒
Tanaan Jungle World Boss:
霸主卡扎克
Mythic Dungeons

Mists of Pandaria
Currency	Source	Eligible Raids/Bosses	Cap
长者的好运符	A) Sold by 指挥官罗平 in Townlong Steppes for the cost of 20 次级好运护符 each. Use the following macro to purchase them quickly and easily: /run BuyMerchantItem(1,1) B) Dropped by various rare spawns and summoned mobs on the Isle of Thunder.	魔古山宝库恐惧之心永春台 Pandaria World Bosses: 炮舰怒之煞	20
魔古命运符文	Sold by 织雾者艾莉 on the Timeless Isle for the cost of 1000 永恒铸币 each.	雷电王座 Isle of Thunder World Boss: 纳拉克 Isle of Giants World Boss: 乌达斯塔	20
战火徽记	Weekly quest which grants 3 seals for the cost of 50 次级好运护符 total. 战火徽记, available from 长者廖禄, ground floor in Shrine of the Two Moons 战火徽记, available from 长者林曦, ground floor of Shrine of the Seven Stars	决战奥格瑞玛 Timeless Isle World Bosses: 赤精雪怒玉珑砮皂斡耳朵斯	20

Below I have compiled some data on pets, mounts and other drops from bosses (both World and Raid bosses).
The "Bonus Roll" column notes whether the item in question is obtainable from a bonus roll (note that you can USE a bonus roll on all bosses, but you will not necessarily be able to get certain pets and mounts on the bonus roll).
NOTE: World Boss locations can be seen on a by mousing over the zone name in the "Source" column.

MOUNTS
Mount	Source	Bonus Roll Mount	Currency
星光云端翔龙缰绳	伊拉贡 Raid Boss 魔古山宝库 Normal, Heroic	No	-
炮舰之子鞍座	炮舰 World Boss Valley of the Four Winds	Yes	长者的好运符
神圣玛瑙云端翔龙缰绳	怒之煞 World Boss Kun-Lai Summit	Yes	长者的好运符
赫利东的子嗣	赫利东 Raid Boss 雷电王座 Normal, Heroic	No	-
季鹍之嗣	季鹍 Raid Boss 雷电王座 Normal, Heroic	No	-
雷霆蓝晶云端翔龙缰绳	纳拉克 World Boss Isle of Thunder	Yes	魔古命运符文
冰蓝原始恐角龙缰绳	乌达斯塔 World Boss Isle of Giants	Yes	魔古命运符文
库卡隆战蝎	加尔鲁什·地狱咆哮 Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 Mythic	No	-
铁蹄毁灭者	黑手 Raid Boss 黑石铸造厂 Mythic	No	-
日光峰林飞鹰	鲁克玛 World Boss Spires of Arak	No	-
魔钢歼灭者	阿克蒙德 Raid Boss 地狱火堡垒 Mythic	No	-
活性地狱火核心	古尔丹 Raid Boss 暗夜要塞 Normal, Heroic, Mythic	No	-
魔化炎狱核心	古尔丹 Raid Boss 暗夜要塞 Mythic	No	-

PETS
Pet	Source	Bonus Roll Pet	Currency
Drop: 迷你恐角龙 Pet: 迷你恐角龙	赫利东 Raid Boss 雷电王座 LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	魔古命运符文
Drop: 活化小沙粒 Pet: 活化小沙粒	Council of Elders Raid Boss 雷电王座 LFR	Yes*	魔古命运符文 *NOTE: In Normal or Heroic mode, this drops from 沙砾元素 trash mobs and cannot be bonus rolled.
Drop: 季鹍雏凤 Pet: 季鹍雏凤	季鹍 Raid Boss 雷电王座 LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	魔古命运符文
Drop: 颤动水珠 Pet: 活化液体	普利莫修斯 Raid Boss 雷电王座 ONLY LFR	Yes	魔古命运符文
Drop: 黑色颤动水珠 Pet: 恐怖黏液怪	普利莫修斯 Raid Boss 雷电王座 ONLY Normal and Heroic	No	-
Drop: 意志之子 Pet: 意志之子	黑暗意志 Raid Boss 雷电王座 LFR, Normal, Heroic	Yes	魔古命运符文
Drop: 黏稠的小煞魔 Pet: 黏稠的小煞魔	傲之煞 Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 ONLY LFR and Normal	Yes	战火徽记
Drop: 亚煞极余孽 Pet: 亚煞极余孽	傲之煞 Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 ONLY Normal, Heroic and Mythic	Yes	战火徽记
Drop: 黑索小炸弹 Pet: 黑索小炸弹	攻城匠师黑索 Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	战火徽记
Drop: 科沃克 Pet: 科沃克	Paragons of the Klaxxi Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	战火徽记
Drop: 腐化的巢穴守卫 Pet: 腐化的巢穴守卫	暗影领主艾斯卡 Raid Boss 地狱火堡垒 LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic	Yes	既定命运印记

MISCELLANEOUS
Drop	Source	Bonus Roll	Currency
库卡隆萨满的宝藏 (contains Kor'kron Dark Shaman Armor)	Kor'kron Dark Shaman Raid Boss 决战奥格瑞玛 Normal, Heroic, Mythic ONLY drops for Shamans	No	-

评论来自 Yewtink

Quick buy macro for all classes, just spam this and it will buy 1 Mogu Rune of Fate.

/run for i=1,GetMerchantNumItems() do if GetMerchantItemInfo(i)=="Mogu Rune of Fate" then BuyMerchantItem(i,1) break end end

评论来自 Topojijo

The item has been moved to a different slot on the vendor so if you want to macro buy this as of the 8.0 patch run the following

/run BuyMerchantItem(5,1)

评论来自 TrueXirro

Quick Guide for everyone farming the Worldbosses:
Explaining which bonusrolls for each boss and how to farm them!

1. YES, you can Bonusroll on them for increased Mountchance

Worldbosses / Bonusrolls:
- Sha of Anger NEEDS Elder Charm of Good Fortune as Bonusroll
- Galleon NEEDS Elder Charm of Good Fortune as Bonusroll
- Oondasta NEEDS Mogu Rune of Fate as Bonusroll
- Nalak NEEDS Mogu Rune of Fate as Bonusroll

How to FARM the Bonusrolls super FAST:
1) Go to the Timeless Isle and farm the Frogs at the east-coast .
2) They drop 2 important currencys to buy BOTH Bonusrolls!
2.1) - Lesser Charm of Good Fortune :: You need 20 Lesser to buy 1 Elder Charm of Good Fortune :: Farm 400 Lesser to buy 20 Elder (CAP)
2.2) - Timeless Coins :: You need 1000 to buy 1 Mogu Rune of Fate :: Farm 20k Coins to buy 20 Runes (CAP)
3.1) While on Timeless Isle, trade in your Timeless Coins at /way 42.8 55.6 Mistweaver Ai for Mogu Rune of Fate.
3.2) Fly to Townlong Steppes, trade in your Lesser Charm of Good Fortune at /way 37.8 64.6 Commander Lo Ping for Elder Charm of Good Fortune.
--- I personally need around 15 min of farm for 400 Charms (cap) and 11k Coins.
--- You can speed up the process in a group, cuz everyone can loot all corpses and they respawn even faster.
--- therefore, invite everyone nearby that is also farming!

Leave a like if I could help you, so everyone else can see this post, too.
And GL on your Mounts!

Greetings

评论来自 Feywick

These Runes seem to have disappeared from the vendor. Unsure if it is a bug or intended.

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