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Kommentar von 5940

28 spell crit pts = 1.27% chance to crit at lvl 70.

Kommentar von 6460

Proper socketing is essential for this piece to justify the fashion disaster this creates when equipping. Seriously ugly vest. However it is important to note that the spellfire set is belt, gloves, chest --- while the frozen shadoweave set is boots, shoulders, chest. The set bonus on both is for all three (3) pieces. If you happen to have all six you can alternate the chest piece for the set bonus you like most for your current task.

Kommentar von 31389

Why oh why couldn't this have been a robe?... /sigh

Kommentar von alfaprox

What u need to complete this item:

252 Netherweave Cloth
34 Primal fire
18 Primal mana
36 Arcane Dust
4 Netherweb Spider Silk
16 Cool down days

But with some variation depending on how many motes of XXX the summoned elemental drops.

What really kills me beside the cooldowntime is the fact that 34 Primal fire is a biatch to grind because its always a so many people doing it.

If Im missing anything plz adjust it =)

Kommentar von 30518

Will be changed from "vest" to "robe" in 2.1.0 patch

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=275607940&sid=1

Kommentar von 20724

The spellfire robe is confirmed on the PTR to be based off the transcendence robe design.

Kommentar von 47547

Hi a question: for u what are the best jewels to put in spellfire set. My first idea was to use max spelldamage but in this way will decrease a lot int and mana. What do u think?

Kommentar von trinket

Changed to:
178 armor
25 int
yellow socket
blue socket
socket bonus: +4 stam
28 spell crit
60 arcane damage
60 fire damage

as of 2.1.

Kommentar von 11116

As a Fire-based Destruction warlock, I'll be crafting this set and then complementing it with either Battlecast or Spellstrike (probably Battlecast because it's easier to make). The Spellfire set has no stamina, which is important for Warlocks, but I can put some heavy stamina gems into the gem slots. The lack of stamina is made up for by the massive amounts of fire damage and crit rating.

Kommentar von 52217

Many people complain to me all the time about this lacking stats. This set is made for pve, and if you happen to pull aggro in a raid or 5 man-heroic, you are going to get one-shotted if you have 12k health, or 6k, simply becuase the fact that you are a clothie. To gimp out your dp to raise your stamina is ridiculous, it's simply not worth it.

Kommentar von 9074

Here's something to consider about the enchant to pick up for this robe. As somebody mentioned above, Enchant Chest - Exceptional Health (+150) is a no-brainer. Indeed, if you don't think about what enchant to get, you'll probably get a +150 health.

Here's why to consider +6 to all stats for a dps caster in PvE (Yes, of course health is better in PvP):

- The old saying of +1% crit == 100 Intellect is still true, roughly. From my calculations, it's about .0121 critical chance per 1 Intellect, so slightly more.
- For most cases, Stamina is 10 health per 1 Stamina. For warlocks that pick up some easy talents in Demo, it's 11.69 per point.
- Mana from intellect varies a bit more, but the base is 15 mana per 1 Intellect.

+6 to all stats can do this:
90-92.625 mana
60-70.14 health
.0726 spell critical chance.

Even at the lowest payout in mana/health/crit, +6 to all stats nets more. Also, consider that mages and anyone with the Spellfire set will get additional spell power from their intellect. +150 health gives none.

While these totals may seem inconsequential to some, there is no one piece of gear that makes you what you are. +6 to all stats is slightly better, and a comparable enchant pricewise.

Kommentar von Bakhoj

Besic Mats you need:

300xMote of Fire.
140xMote of Mana.
28xArcane Dust.
252xNeatherweave Cloth.
4xNetherweb Spider Silk.

Kommentar von anubbus

To all my mages,
i know for me i working on this,
chest- spellfire
belt- spellfire
hands- spellfire
hat- spellstrike
pants- spellstrike
shoulders- T4
boots- T4
What you get- +7% of int to dmg, COH to gain dmg +96 i belive, No interupt on fost/fire bolt
Fill all reds with +9 to dmg
Fill yellows with +12int and +5dmg +5 crit
Fill blues with +stam and others
i think it will work.
Me being 40/21/0 get +15% int and +25 to dmg of int, so you get +32% of int to dmg.
also get a pendent of domanece, it is easy during an AV weekend. fill yellow with +8 int, this build needs int. it is a risky pve build but if played hwo it should be in PvE it ownz. and pvp you will top charts. i am still working on teh stats. will update.

Kommentar von 56166

I just want to know exactly what are THE BEST gems for this piece of cloth armor, and...how much does it cost to get one made??

Kommentar von 69117

For those of us who aren't tailors, what could be a good alternative to the Spellfire set? If they are items that can be replaced multiple times until Spellfire is outdone, list all of them. I, personally, am an Alchemist, which makes getting the Spellfire set impossible. I've been told Robe of the Crimson Order and Robe of the Great Dark Beyond aren't bad, but I have no idea about what can replace the gloves and belt. Aldor (Tier 4) stuff, maybe?

Thanks ahead of time for the help.

Kommentar von 97259

Spellfire Material calculation.

Spellfire Robe:

Spellcloth x14 (Primal Fire x14 (Mote of Fire x140), Primal Mana x14 (Mote of Mana x140), Bolt of Imbued Netherweave x14 (Bolt of Netherweave x42 (Netherweave Cloth x252), Arcane dust x28)
Primal Fire x16 (Mote of Fire x160)
Netherweb Spider Silk x4

Spellfire Gloves:

Spellcloth x8 (Primal Fire x8 (Mote of Fire x80), Primal Mana x8 (Mote of Mana x80), Bolt of Imbued Netherweave x8 (Bolt of Netherweave x24 (Netherweave Cloth x144), Arcane dust x16)
Primal Fire x12 (Mote of Fire x120)
Netherweb Spider Silk x4

Spellfire Belt:

Spellcloth x4 (Primal Fire x4 (Mote of Fire x40), Primal Mana x4 (Mote of Mana x40), Bolt of Imbued Netherweave x4 (Bolt of Netherweave x12 (Netherweave Cloth x72), Arcane Dust x8)
Primal Fire x10 (Mote of Fire x100)
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

Hole Spellfire Set:

Spellcloth x26 (Primal Fire x26 (Mote of Fire x260), Primal Mana x26 (Mote of Mana x260), Bolt of Imbued Netherweave x26 (Bolt of Netherweave x78 (Netherweave Cloth x468), Arcane Dust x52)
Primal Fire x38 (Mote of Fire x380)
Netherweb Spider Silk x10

So, if your crafting EVERYTHING yourself:
Mote of Fire x640
Mote of Mana x260
Netherweave Cloth x468
Arcane Dust x52
Netherweb Spider Silk x10

OR

Primal Fire x64
Primal Mana x26
Spellcloth x26
Netherweb Spider Silk x10

This is WITHOUT Spellcloth Specialation.

With Spellcloth Specialation:

Mote of Fire x510
Mote of Mana x130
Netherweave Cloth x234
Arcane Dust x26
Netherweb Spider Silk x10

OR

Primal Fire x51
Primal Mana x13
Spellcloth x26 (Spellcloth Specialation gives TWO Spellcloth, instead of one, each time you transmute, therefor only the mats for the 26 are reduced.)
Netherweb Spider Silk x10

Hope that helped you out!

Kommentar von 174261

I was wondering if it was worth making the spellfire gloves and robe if you wanna keep the belt of blasting or should i replace it with the spellfire belt?

Kommentar von 127342

If you want Spellfire Robes, you can start with https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=7510.

Kommentar von 71213

if you are hit capped this is still one of the best dps robes in the game for fire mages.
source: maxdps.com

Kommentar von 350479

Great robes for young discipline priests! With discipline priests valuing intellect and crit much more highly now than ever before, these robes, along with the rest of the Spellfire set, would be GREAT for level 70 discipline priests! In comparison to the other two level 70 tailored purple sets, as a discipline priest I would choose this set over the other two, espeically when used in combination with the Spellstrike Infusion set! https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/itemset=559

Kommentar von Chrolli

Wasn't this set BoP at one time?

Kommentar von 230931

I created it post BC because playing WoW was not just about the best gear quickly for me, which is a compliment to the designers. I enjoyed making the set as a project, something of the epoch, and I allowed myself to explore and rep some of that time.

Updating the tailor set stats really isn't game possible, as the set is epic only to the Burning Crusade. I have no idea what else I could have done as well, since I was not in a raiding guild. Still, I like the set, and I kited crowds of Northrend npcs hundreds of times with few problems and little if any personal damage.

Damage: 658 Crit: 16.82% Haste: 149 over 7k health and 8k mana - undeffed.

With defs it's ok at level 73, and I have some other pieces, of course

Kommentar von Allakhazam

i have the set complete and i see no glow.

Edited, Mar 21st 2007 12:25am by Daggo

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://wowdb.servegame.com is a hacker site.
he copied the wow login page entirely i nearly fell for it too.
becareful about it.

mother %^&*er. complained to bz about it already, hope they'll
do something.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

it will kill us all :)

http://wow.visadig.se/q/548

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This chest and the other 2 parts are also cooool if you can put 12 stamina on blue socket and 8 spell crit on yellow if you like crit :P:P .
12 stamina on blue is coool because the set doesn't give any stamina so if you put on the three pieces so you will have 36 stamina :D which is not bad :):)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Think i found some

http://www.photodump.com/direct/theironcolonel/Spellfire.jpg

Kommentar von Allakhazam

is there any way to get hold of this without being able to make it yourself?

If not, what's the next best mage item to this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

http://wowdb.servegame.com is a hacker site.
he copied the wow login page entirely i nearly fell for it too.
becareful about it.

mother !@#$er. complained to bz about it already, hope they'll
do something.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow, red glow? If that was true that'd make it almost cooler than bloodfang.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

14x Spellcloth
16x Primal Fire
4x Netherweb Spider Silk

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I have the full set, there is NO glow.
The dude at the bottom was just trying to get you to go to his website so he can get your account name and password.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Since this set states that it requires Spellfire Tailoring, does that mean that I need to stay a tailor to wear this? Or does it just mean to make it you have to be a Spellfire Tailor...please clarify.

Ty,
HeathR

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This is obviously most useful to a mage, since they use both fire and arcane. But the warlock alternative to the set- Frozen Shadoweave- adds to shadow and frost. Warlocks can't use frost, and it isn't like we don't have any fire spells (immolate, incinerate, rain of fire, hellfire, soul fire, searing pain just to name a few). One can argue that mages don't have many forms of arcane damage, but warlocks have NO frost damage.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This set is pretty good for a balance druid imo, good arcane spell dmg, plus if u chuck the spellstrike set with it, ur spell dmg goes through the roof, this set is good till u either get ur arena set or u get ur T5 set.

Btw just wondering wat gems should be used for this set?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what is this red glow that ppl are mentioning? I do not see anything?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

mats:

14 spellcloth
- 1 bolt of imbued netherweave
-- 2 arcane dust
-- 3 bolt of netherweave
--- 6 netherweave cloth
- 10 mote of fire / 1 primal fire
- 10 mote of mana / 1 primal mana

16 primal fire
- 160 mote of fire

4 netherweb spider silk

please correct me if im wrong.. its late and im drunk :P

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow, thats an imba robe! Hell, the set bonus is even better. With this set and 40arcane points specc you get 32% of your int into spellpower... Not to mention 5% to crit and 172 to arc/fire dmg. Just sick...

Anyone got a screenshot btw?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You can see the video of it on youtube

Yesh but under what name? :)

Anyone has a pic anyway?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Wow, this thing glows red. Reminds me of some sort of Satanic Cult, lol.
You can see the video of it on youtube, or under the mage video section of http://wowdb.servegame.com

Makes me want to reroll mage...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

changed to robe!

http://xemcat.net/wow/spellfireptr.jpg

nifty, huh! :) i like it... recoloured priest t2

Kommentar von Thottbot

Big freakin visual improvement over the vest.

Kommentar von Thottbot

In 2.1 the design is a red Transcendence robes.

Kommentar von Thottbot

if you plan to farm all the mats for the set
then you are looking for 640 motes of fire. or 64 primalfire, i know that the acual pieces dont require 64 primals, but if you plan to make the spellcloth, then you allso need the primals for the spellcloth.

so dont make the mistake i did and only farm enough for the primals, i was let down knowing i was only about half way done farming

Kommentar von Thottbot

What do you guys thing about a warlock specced destruction and wearing this set? Would this set's buffs be more beneficial to me than respeccing and making the frozen shadoweave set?

Kommentar von Thottbot

lovin the set bonus pretty cool

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wait, so is the Spellfire vest a part of the set or not? I'm confused.

Kommentar von Thottbot

In the last major patch 2.1.1 i think they changed the vest to a robe.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Okay, I'm working on lvling my 66 mage and also just picked up tailoring (Jewelcrafting ftl).

I'm trying to plan my route for future raiding and I'm curious:

I love playing frost, been a long time since I played fire. I look at this set compared to the Frozen Shadoweave set and I can't help but feel like this is a more powerful and useful set.

Be honest, is there any real place for a Frost Mage in end game raiding? Or should I respec to fire and head towards this gear?

Thanks in advance :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

only way you can possibly raid with frost is 40/0/21 but then you won't be able to keep up with locks/shadowpriests/rogues/firemages...
So go for spellfire and spec 10/48/3 if you want to raid

Kommentar von Thottbot

Its just stupid to think frost is a raiding spec. Fire mages, affliction warlocks and even some rogues will manage to top your damage. Go 10/48/3 for raid, thats it. Forget everything else.

Kommentar von Thottbot

10/48/3 ^^^ is the way to go for instance runs! ive test it - every spec, sure thing, arcane/fire is good $%^& load of crit but i rather have more things to burn stuff faster, i.e dragon breath is awesome talent.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nice for destro locks. :>

Kommentar von Thottbot

ALL of the mats for the robe are:
4 netherwebs, 30 primal fires, 14 primal manas, 28 arcane dusts, 252 netherweave cloth

((that's including the mats for the spell cloth and imbued netherweave bolts))

Kommentar von Thottbot

yeah, nice I like robes, finishing up gloves on my mage i got the belt allready.

Im spellfire and im Arcane/Fire spec. so This iz guT!

btw, what is that 7% of your intellect? my friend told me this set is almost as T-4. hmm as far armor and stats.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Paired with spellstrike this set will not compare with T4+ in stam or intel. However, the only set to surpass this in spell damage and spell CS for a fire/arcane mage is T6, and it barely does. This is the best for raids, Mercilles is best for PvP. If you have T6 i seriously doubt you would care about this post :) Hope this helps!

Set (With Gems) Stammina Intellect
T6 195 179
Mercilles 258 81
T5 169 158
T4 169 155
Spellstrike/Spellfire 100 65

Set(With Gems) Fire-Damage Spell-Damage Spell-Hit
T6 0 278 66
Mercilles 0 202 0
T5 0 245 26
T4 0 206 41
Spellstrike/Spellfire 172 102 38

Set (With Gems) Spell C.S. Resiliance
T6 175 0
Mercilles 151 130
T5 158 0
T4 95 0
Spellstrike/Spellfire 159 0

You can play with the gems as you wish, but I went with the most amount of usable stats possible (Meta gems where 14% spell crit and 1% spell reflect). I also cannot spell gl and GOD BLESS!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Forgot the above info does not mention set bonus.

Set Set Bonus
T6: (2)Increases the duration of your Evocation ability by 2 sec. (4)Increases the damage of your Fireball, Frostbolt, and Arcane Missiles abilities by 5%.

Mercilles: (2) Is +35 Resilience (4)Reduces the cooldown of your Blink spell by 2 sec.

T5: (2)Increases the damage and mana cost of Arcane Blast by 20%. (4)Your spell critical strikes grant you up to 70 spell damage for 6 sec.

T4: (2) Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Fireball or Frostbolt. (4) Reduces the cooldown on Presence of Mind by (-24) sec, on Blast Wave by (-4) sec, and on Ice Block by (-40) sec.

Spellstrike/Spellfire: (2)Gives a chance when your harmful spells land to increase the damage of your spells and effects by 92 for 10 sec. (4)increases spell damage by up to 7% of your total Intellect.

Kommentar von Thottbot

This item is a robe NOT a vest it was change in a patch
classes / specs for this whould be fire mages arcane mages all warlocks whould find this handy if you dont use shadow bolt all the time i cant see why anyone else whould want this set besides that it looks cool.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a fire mage here, and i'm about to get my second piece. Since I can't exactly kill the fire elementals with much ease in the Elemental Plateau, I had to find another way to get the Primal Fires.

On my server, Primal Airs are around 22g, and Primal Fires around 20g, so i simply farmed the Primal Airs, and sold, using the money to buy Primal Fires.

I usually had enough Netherweave for the Spellcloth (and the Primal Manas were easy to get from the Mana Wraiths in Netherstorm).

As for the Netherweb Spidersilk... just run around in Black Morass, killing the spiders. I farmed enough for the set in a half hour or so.

The only problem is the Primal Fires, and the Cooldown on the Spellcloth.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Anyone know an effective way to train tailoring from 355 to 375? :S

Kommentar von Thottbot

Added the numbers up and this is what you need for your fire chest\belt\gloves

1.After you hit the right skill level for tailoring Get....
2.26 Spellcloth (cloth you need for the pattern)
3.38 primal fires (=O!) Can be farmed in nagrand,shadowmoon (etc)
4.10 webs (not sure were to farm those, sorry!)

Hope that helps a little, just to set what you need,how many etc. Best of luck!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I was wondering what is the best gear to wear for 2v2 arena if i was a mage doing 2v2 with a shadow priest

Kommentar von Thottbot

Introduction

Well, to start off, there are three Tailoring Specs. Spellfire, Frozen Shadoweave, and Primal Mooncloth. Each for diffrent classes/specs. They can be learned in Shatt city, southeast? of the Horde battlemasters.
Spellfire - Mostly used by Fire/Arcane mages, but also good for Destro Warlocks. The set consists of: Robes, Gloves, and a Belt.
Frozen Shadoweave - Used by Affliction Warlocks, Shadow Priests, and Frost Mages. The set consists of: Robes, Sholders, and Boots.
Primal Mooncloth - Mostly used by Holy Priests, and maybe Resto Druids? I don't know alot of this set. The set consists of: Robes, Sholders, and a Belt.

The first time you spec into one of the sets, its free. But every other time you switch, it costs 150g.

Spellfire Set

To make Spellfire Robes you'll need...

Spellcloth x14
Primal Fire x16
Netherweb Spider Silk x4

To make the Spellfire Gloves you'll need...

Spellcloth x8
Primal Fire x12
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

To make the Spellfire Belt you'll need...

Spellcloth x4
Primal Fire x10
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

For JUST the spell cloth x26 you'll need at least...

Primal Fire x26
Primal Mana x26
Imbued Netherweave Cloth x26 (468 Netherweave or 24 Stacks of Nether weave and 52 Arcane Dust)

So in total, you'll need...

Primal Fire x64
Primal Mana x26
Netherweave x468 or 24 Stacks
Arcane Dust x52
Netherweb Spider Silk x8

For the Primal Fire, I would suggest farming the Fire Elementals in Negrand on Elemental Plateau.

For the Primal Mana, I would suggest farming Mana Seekers and Mageslayers at Wizard's Row in Kirin'Var village in Netherstorm

For the Netherweave, I would suggest farming some other primal, I.E Primal Fire or Water, selling them, then buying the Netherweave off the AH with that gold.

For the Arcane dust, you could use the method I suggested for the Netherweave, or if your an enchanter, run lots of instances and DE gear you get, or buy cheep greens/blues off the AH and DE them into Arcane Dust.

For the Spidersilk I would suggest going to The Black Morass aka The Dark Portal in Caverns of Time and farm the spiders there. Just don't get close to Medivh

Frozen Shadoweave Set

To make the Shadoweave Robes you'll need...

Shadowcloth x14
Primal Water x16
Netherweb Spider Silk x8

To make the Shadoweave Boots you'll need...

Shadowcloth x8
Primal Water x12
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

To make the Shadoweave Sholders you'll need...

Shadowcloth x4
Primal Water x10
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

To make JUST the Shadowcloth x26 you'll need at least...

Primal Fire x26
Primal Shadow x26
Imbued Netherweave Cloth x26(468 Netherweave or 24 Stacks of Nether weave and 52 Arcane Dust)

So in total, you'll need...

Primal Water x38
Primal Fire x26
Primal Shadow x26
Netherweave x468 or 24 Stacks
Arcane Dust x52
Netherweb Spider Silk x8

For the Primal Water, I would suggest farming the Eel's in the lake outside of Shatt, or the Water Elementals in Skittis

For the Primal Fire, I would suggest farming the Fire Elementals in Negrand on Elemental Plateau.

For the Primal Shadow, I would suggest going to Pools of Aggonar in Hellfire Pen. and kill Terrorfiends for them.

For the Netherweave, I would suggest farming some other primal, I.E Primal Fire or Water, selling them, then buying the Netherweave off the AH with that gold.

For the Arcane dust, you could use the method I suggested for the Netherweave, or if your an enchanter, run lots of instances and DE gear you get, or buy cheep greens/blues off the AH and DE them into Arcane Dust.

For the Spidersilk I would suggest going to The Black Morass aka The Dark Portal in Caverns of Time and farm the spiders there. Just don't get close to Medivh.

Primal Mooncloth

For the Mooncloth Robes you'll need...

Primal Mooncloth x14
Primal Mana x12
Netherweb Spider Silk x4

For the Mooncloth Shoulders you'll need...

Primal Mooncloth x8
Primal Life x8
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

For the Mooncloth Belt you'll need...

Primal Mooncloth x4
Primal Life x8
Netherweb Spider Silk x2

For JUST the Mooncloth you'll need at least...

Primle Life x26
Primal Water x26
Imbued Netherweave Cloth x26 (468 Netherweave or 24 Stacks of Nether weave and 52 Arcane Dust)

So in total, you'll need...

Primal Life x42
Primal Water x26
Primal Mana x12
Netherweave x468 or 24 Stacks
Arcane Dust x52
Netherweb Spider Silk x8

For the Primal Life, I would suggest The Dead Mire in Zangamarsh.

For the Primal Water, I would suggest farming the Eel's in the lake outside of Shatt, or the Water Elementals in Skittis

For the Primal Mana, I would suggest farming Mana Seekers and Mageslayers at Wizard's Row in Kirin'Var village in Netherstorm

For the Netherweave, I would suggest farming some other primal, I.E Primal Fire or Water, selling them, then buying the Netherweave off the AH with that gold.

For the Arcane dust, you could use the method I suggested for the Netherweave, or if your an enchanter, run lots of instances and DE gear you get, or buy cheep greens/blues off the AH and DE them into Arcane Dust.

For the Spidersilk I would suggest going to The Black Morass aka The Dark Portal in Caverns of Time and farm the spiders there. Just don't get close to Medivh

Kommentar von Thottbot

great guide helped heaps thnx!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Santamar

Thank you for taking the time to put that guide on for us!

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you are going to create this robe you will need these mats.

1) 30 primal fires (14 for making the spell cloth and 16 for the actual robe)

2) 4 netherweb spider silk
Most of the time this is found on the auction house. If not you can farm it in Terokkar Forest off of the 63-65 spiders located on the outskirts of Auchindoun.

3) 14 spellcloth
-To make one spell cloth you require one primal fire, one bolt of imbued netherweave, and one primal mana.
-To make one bolt of imbued netherweave you require three bolts of netherweave and two arcane dust.

After getting these mats, you are set and ready to go. The entire spellfire set is a crucial benefit to the fire or arcane/fire mage. This set along with T5 and spellstrike and an arcane/fire mage would probably be one of the most dangerous things around.

Good Luck! =D

Kommentar von Thottbot

what is better for PVP and for PVE? this se tor the frozen shadoweave? PVE= not raiing for me, just heroics and such...

Kommentar von Thottbot

Really no one should spec arcane for raids before they get 2pieces of Tirisfal Regalia. If you're using one move as Arcane you're gimping DPS.

Fire = Great for raids for T4 content and T6 content, but bad BAD for serious pvp.
Frost = Due to recent buffs, not that bad for raids in 2.3.2, there's only about a 3% difference in DPS. But still worse the worse off of the specs.
Arcane = this spec is pretty insane DPS once you get two pieces of T5.

As arcane you should use Arcane blast three times, then wait for the debuff to reach 1.5s casting whatever to fill the gap, then cast it again. You get a 1.5 sec Arcane blast for very little mana because the mana returned to normal cost. On clearcasts/MSD procs you should use AM.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm having a hard time trying to decide what gems to put in the sockets of the entire spellfire set.. what are some gems that would be the most useful for raids?

Kommentar von Thottbot

i haven't tried this in a raid yet and im not fully geared like id like to be but if u go arcane fire spec going for the damege reduction from arcane along with spell power boosts then go fire just enough to get the reduction in cast time for fireball and the ignite but this is were it gets good and i call this super crit spec (i made it up my self ;) u get the sccorch so u hit five times with scorch and sence u have got arcane enough to get bigger crits then even fire u get super crits i havent had a pom pyro crit will haveing the five stack scorch but i think i will be happy with it .

i went the same spec as u the dud that said he went something similar but used arcane missils and the stun effect . i figure arcane missisls cost to much mana to cast and it leaves u valnerable in pvp when ur stading in one spot for 5 seconds with a trial leding right to u ....ps sorry about the lack of proper spelling and periods and stuff

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<---- destruction spec warlock :D

crit chance is nice, pluse the fire dmg is above average in kara

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This kids insane... I think this is what he ment. Which is completly stupid. All buffed up my mage can crit 6,000 with a fireball. Over DPSing his Frost bolt any day.

Ok, so here's the thing, you can do just fine with this gear in pve. However, in pvp this gear sucks. I have Shadow's Embrace set and let me tell you something... if you wanna see big crits go fire spec. If you wanna do dmg go frost. I over dps lots of firemages and rogues. Why? Beacuse as you can see this is a 3 items set. I get the rest of my spell dmg and crit chance from frost potions and other itmes. Surely a fire mage hit 5k with pyro but in the time it takes her to do that I've already cast 2 frost bolts at 4k. For frost bolt trust me you will over dps anybody and the +spell dmg is the same. Also, you can see the socket bonus for this set is stamina. For Shadow's Embrace it's hit rate. So yeah you wanna see 5-6k pyro crit sure go for it but if u wanna be able to go pvp and pve go for Shadow's Embrace.

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FIRE MAGES OUT DPS A FROST MAGE ANY DAY however frost mages have there advantages in PVE. Put a frost mage next to a fire one on a lvl 70 target with the same gear and the fire mage will win. Ment PVP not pve sry.

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What happens if I drop tailoring for enchanting to get ring enchants?

Can i still equip the set? Do I lose any bonuses?

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i just got this today, cost me around 600g. It was SO FREAKING WORTH IT, now i have all 3 pieces and its so good

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