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评论来自 101192

though at first glance it might look a pve spell, it might be very usefull for pvp, combination of our 11 point crit talent and the other crit talents + nature swiftness we can for once pump great healing out in short amount of time when needed, no more sorry i couldnt keep up with the burst damage:D way to go

评论来自 BlueShoals

In my opinion, this ability looks extremely boring in comparison to Spirit Link. A HoT is something that every other healer has, and this DOES increase a shaman's utility, but a HoT with a "swiftmend" doesn't really strike me as being all that unique.
I think this change may only make this spec less fun to play as.

评论来自 215829

i was looking at the spell and i think this could be very useful, my question is, like stormtrike is it only your spells? I'm guessing since its a hot you can have multiple of these on one target at the same time, will one chain heal use all riptides or will it use one? i think it has quite a bit of potential

评论来自 169128

I don't know about you guys but this replacement really disappoints me. Spirit link was a very awesome, unique skill. This seems boring and not very good to me. Okay so 764 to 826 plus 795 over 15 seconds, so that's about 1600 over time, and the next chain heal consumes the heal over time and the chain heal is increased by 25%, BUT it costs 18% of base mana. That is ridiculous. I don't even think it would be worth spending 18% of your mana on this 1600 heal over time spell. And also keep in mind that everyone in end game wotlk is going to have an insane amount of health (20k and more). In my opinion, the only way this could be a decent spell is if the mana cost is reduced a hella lot. What do you guys think?

评论来自 Icecoldcoke

This ability obviously replaced Spirit Link in the build 8970, since Spirit Link was becoming too confusing.

This ability scales with your spell power. The main heal does around 1.7k, and the HOT does a little over 500 per tick (with about 1.7k healing.)

And finally, the ability was just added, and is most likely not finished. There are likely lots of changes coming for it, so even though it's not amazing now, things will improve.

Riptide is being looked at. No specifics yet.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043250107&sid=2000&pageNo=1#7

评论来自 178827

I like Spirit Link a lot, but an instant heal is also a very good addition to Resto since Nature's Swiftness has considerable cooldown. Reduce Riptide's mana cost, give it some decent healing coefficient and voila! The Chain Heal bonus is only an addition, I think they inspired themselves from the Lava Burst bonus. Of course, Spirit Link should at all costs be kept, most likely as a baseline ability or a bit lower in the talent tree. That ability is just way to much fun to have been created and then scrapped.

评论来自 47633

I'm going to assume that this is likely on the same CD as our shocks. I'm guessing this because it's a 6s CD, instant, and is basically the healing version of a Flameshock/Lavaburst combo.

评论来自 Kalfo

Koraa:
"We improved the base heal by 33% (Not sure if you have that build or not). It also now procs Tidal Waves, and we've changed Tidal Waves to two charges now (up from 1)."

"Thanks for the information Koraa. Any idea on whether improved water shield will be changed to affect riptide?"

"We'll do that too =)"

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...2000&pageNo=14

I don't know if the 33% extra are going to help the already low amount it heals...

I think it will be now like: 795 (average) + 33% = 1057,35 + the HoT

评论来自 207780

This could work out quite nice in WotLK if people have Tidal Waves as a talent because it would link as a healing combo.

Rip tide (makes chain heal heal for right now 25% more) --> Chain heal (which procs Tidal Waves making some heals 30% faster) --> either Lesser Healing wave or Healing wave

评论来自 Terraform

Personally, I have been testing this ability with the current Bug as you get to keep rank 2 once you spec out of it on the current PTR build (9/25 when im posting this). But I then respec'd Elemental, and found that this ability can keep a person alive a lot longer than most could hope for. It has a 6 second cooldown like a shock, but only has the effect of a healing Moonfire ( surprised no one notice the blatent similarity ). If I could get support of anyone on the PTR or Beta about making this amazing ability baseline, and giving the dev's another shot at a 51 point talent to dazzle the resto shaman, I would be very appreciative.

评论来自 220425

I have to say, this ability really makes me happy to be a resto shaman. I can't understand why people think losing Spirit Link is bad, I think Spirit Link sucked badly, giving us an INSTANT heal that also causes a HoT, which as a shammy I have always prayed for, is much better than just splitting damage inbetween people...

and I would also like to add... this is UNIQUE! alot of people say its like swiftmend for resto druids, but the resto druid one is way OP lol, no other class can instant cast an average heal, cause a HoT, and then boost the power of a certain healing spell when they use it on the target, all with just a 6 second cooldown.

Anyone who says this spell is worse than Spirit Link, you're obviously not htinking about it properly, imagine being in a group, using Spirit Link, and then having your poor melee dps taking about 50 damage a second on the average boss.

Riptide ftw!

评论来自 skribs

50 DPS on the average boss? If you assume the DPS is taking 25% of the damage (50% / 2) then that would mean the boss is doing 200 DPS, which is not nearly the case. Raid bosses in TBC have raw damage values in the tens of thousands, and even a 5-man boss like murmur will hit for 2k if you have 55% reduction. Bosses dont do 200 DPS, they do more like 500-1000 DPS.

I don't personally have a resto shaman (as my shaman is only in her 30's) but I do know a bit about healing, and what I see is riptide and spirit link are both solutions to different problems, which I believe plagued shamans.
Spirit link addressed the innefectivity of chain heal in situations where a single target is taking damage, as well as giving shamans a unique raid utility. While I do not feel like it was an overpowered ability in itself, in a group dynamic it would have almost required one resto shaman, whereas no other healing class is "required" (similar to in TBC how pally tanks are required for some fights). When Blizzard has the option of buffing 3 classes or nerfing 1, they will likely nerf the one.
However, riptide is a different story. It doesn't synergy as well with other healers (instead of priest spamming CoH, I was thinking massive PoM/renew or druid HoTs, or maybe bacon...weave FoL between the two DPS and never even have to heal the tank), riptide solves the issues of mobility and silence. Now you got a HoT to use on those fights when you're going to be out of commission for a few seconds (maiden, bear boss) and you got an instant cast for fights you need to kite (PvP, Vorpil in shadow labs). This is also the only instant-cast heal to do both direct and over-time healing. While I agree it's not as flashy as spirit link, and does seem like it should be trainable, I personally dont see a problem with riptide in concept, and I think between that and earthliving weapon I may actually want to spec my shaman resto instead of suicide at 80.

评论来自 158237

Seeing the instant cast and the 6 second CD, is Riptide considered a shock spell?
Would be nice if Shamanistic Focus (-45% mana to shock spells) affects Riptide

评论来自 RazorAce

Am gonna miss spirit link... :(
in my opinion this is a bad replacement for such a cool spell, plus just makes playing resto alot more boring...

评论来自 196432

I was skeptic about this at first, but trying it out in raid was a lot of fun. I believe it would hit for 1700-2k+ then tick for 400-450 a cast with around 1.5k +heal (I miss seeing that number over 2.3k or more, lol). Could also proc Earthliving for another hot along with it. I don't see it as a cast that I would spam constantly, but a quick save for someone. That may change in time as I work into a new rotation.

评论来自 230291

Everyone please stop complaining and think about this for a second.
1. Low mana cost. It's NOT 18% of your mana, it's 18% of BASE mana. Base mana is the total amount of mana you have when you're completely naked with no gear, enchants, talents etc. From what I remember, for me it's about 280 mana. ANY decently geared shammy should have about 9k mana AT LEAST. I have 12k mana unbuffed so it's virtually no mana whatsoever. AND improved water shield procs if you crit, meaning even LESS manaloss.
2. Usefullness. This scales with Spellpower, and due to the low mana cost, again, this was made for hitting whenever it's off cooldown. Earthliving procs with it too, meaning even MORE healing. It's very good for when the tank's on low health; Hit Riptide, Nature's Swiftness and Healing Wave. It's also good for raid healing with the chain heal bonus.
3. The cool animation. Now you can RP being splashed at Seaworld by that killer whale. yay.

评论来自 faia

riptide + NS/Chain heal= good and much fast heal...

评论来自 39134

While certainly not as unique as Spirit Link, having the ability to heal without leaving yourself open for an interrupt is definitely useful and helps cover a big shaman weakness. I rarely find myself using this for the Chain Heal buff in PvP, but the fact that it now procs Tidal Waves is probably the best thing they've done to the spell since they upped its numbers.

Plus it's a portable waterfall for wherever you go. Refreshing!

评论来自 39318

Ripe Tide lacks in raids due to the time needed for this heal to be effective, but is very useful in 5mans and pvp.

评论来自 152555

they need to add lesser healing wave and healing wave to the 25% bonus healing effect, considering it replaced the Godly talent spirit link.

评论来自 178827

Would it be hard for Blizz to keep Spirit Link in our repertoir? Make it baseline, or make Riptide baseline...
Nevertheless, Riptide is a very useful spell (though it kinda reminds me of shockadins), especially now that the ammount healed has been increased.
I'm curious, can a Shaman cast Riptide on himself?

评论来自 Sylpheed

As a resto shaman I'm more than happy with this spell, It has become the healing spell I use most in 5 mans and leveling. Personally I found spirit link being situational at best, but this one gives me mobility, with earth shield you don't need anything more to keep the tank at 100% health, and while questing it gives me an opportunity to keep my mana with water shield while keeping my health with this.

评论来自 152566

i would have liked to c spirit link stay. its was great for raids and ungodly for pvp it gave use a way to edge out resto druids. but i'm fine with this all i have to do inn five mans is riptide and earth shield and i'm good most of the time plus if have to run from mobs or allys this helps 2. in the end spirit link should have stayed but if they buff this up a bit more i think it should be fine

评论来自 251480

An excellent heal for shamans
their only instant heal, and applies a nice HoT
compared to https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=48441 has the same mana cost, does 1670 instant, and the HoT only does 20 less healing...
stop complaining

评论来自 n4rt0n

Riptide instantly heals and has nearly the same HoT as Rejuv. You don't spend 51 points to get Riptide, the other 50 points help your all your healing and utility. Also, you should glyph Riptide to make the cooldown 5 seconds.

there's no such glyph (however the t8/t8.5 2 pieces reduces the cooldown by 1 sec (even that on pve isn't as good as it'd be on pvp set)).

The point is that Rejuvenation is a base skill while Riptide is a deep tier of Resto Tree so it should be a special ability that is unique and not compared to any other base ability of other class (like Metamorphosis of demon locks or Killing Spree of combat rogues).

oh yeah and Rejuvenation/Regrowth can be consumed by Swiftmend healing way more than Riptide (using CH to consume Riptide's Hot doesn't even compare to Swiftmend).

评论来自 206160

the hot, it heals per second or per 3sec?

评论来自 chillyman

What's up with the change of icons ? I liked the pink one...

评论来自 450260

Riptide can become very powerful with 2 pieces of t8 (lower cooldown to 5 seconds) 2 pieces of t9 (increases healing done by 20%) and glyph of riptide (extends duration of HoT to 21 seconds).

The Glyph & t8 combination allows you to keep Riptide up on 3 targets at once pretty easily.

评论来自 442888

Does the Chain Heal calculate the HoT consumption heal at its entirety (i.e. 15 sec) or only on the remainder of the HoT?

评论来自 492565

hmm lets not compare classes....it makes everyones heads hurt

评论来自 169906

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=61301 and https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=51994 make healing so much easier (:

awesome new icon aswell

评论来自 525720

I've experienced problems while using riptide lately. My guild is currently doing tries on Arthas and I try to keep riptide active on the OT. The problem is sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The 6 sec CD is consumed (that's how I know I activated it) but I can't see the ability icon on the OT character, and it's not visible on the healbot frame either.

Is there any other shaman ability that could be de-activating riptide, or another ability from someone in the raid?

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