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Warrios dont use TC for the dmg but for the debuff which decreases the dmg done to you, its really good in good old meele boss fights. Also if you fight more than one enemy the debuff from TC can remove allot of dmg from you. This skill is also good in duels vs rogues since they cant get in as many hits then.

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Piercing Howl..

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imp thunderclap in the BC expansion is a must have talent for all warriors! lvl 58 thunderclap will do an instant 206 damage and debuff the enemy with 20% increased time between attacks. Think about it, for every 5 hits you take its really only 4 hits. Instant 206 AOE damage for the cost of 16 rage. IMO "THE" best thing theve done for warriors in this expansion.

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Agree! Can't w8 til BC!

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Seems like they have changed this ability a little:
It is now also useable in defensive stance, and causes more threat. That's at least what I get out of the description...

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I think they changed the cooldown too! From 6 seconds to 4 seconds if remember correctly...
Am I right?

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Improved Thunder Clap Rank 7(with 2H):

246 damage + 20% speed reduction on 4 enemies is way better then the extra 208 dmg the Heroic strike(rank 11) does. Remember, HS uses the white attack, and gives it 208 more damage, thunder clap does not use the regular attack, and still does 246 damage. So even if you're fighting one enemy, thunder clap is better to use then heroic strike.

So, go for 3 talent points in TC, and use that instead of HS. HS uses a white attack, and gives no rage. Thunder clap uses 16 rage, does more damage then HS overall, hurts 4 enemies, slows their attack speed, gives rage when used.

the 2H weapon has a speed between 3.5 and 3.8 most likely, and the CD on TC is 4sec, there is a difference.

208dmg/3.5 =~ 60.0 dmg per sec
246dmg/4.0 =~ 61.5 dmg per sec

(these numbers dont include the rage per dmg numbers though)

TC = 16rage every 4sec(4 rage per sec)
HS = 12rage every 3.5sec(3.4 rage per sec)

But remember, HS doesnt give us rage, it only uses, and also uses a white attack we would get rage from. TC gives us rage(from maybe 4 enemies) and the white attack also gives us rage.
How much rage 1 white attack + 1 TC gives from 1 enemy, I'm not sure, but it gotta be atleast 2 rage. 16rage -2 = 14. 14/4 = 3.5 rage per sec in reality. So...

HS=3.4rage per sec -> 60.0 dmg per sec
TC=3.5rage per sec -> 61.5 dmg per sec

HS=17.6dmg per rage
TC=17.5dmg per rage + debuff!

So TC > HS = imho :)

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Yes, improved TC is alot better than HS for 2-handers.
But there are some times when HS is better (on top of the obvious dual-wielding/shield+onehand):
HS can be more useful for larger burst damage with 2-handers (more directed towards PvP) because HS can crit alot easier, compared to TC's very rare crits.
But grinding/soloing with a 2-hander i always use TC and ONLY use HS when i have lots of spare rage.
Although, when one gets MS, it will replace TC when fighting only one mob, but TC will of course still be useful for tanking/soloing 2 or more mobs.

HS: 1-handers / Burst damage for 2-hander when low on rage.
MS: Solo target with 2-hander
TC: Multiple targets (with any weapon)

If u have "unlimited rage" = Use 'em all ;)

And i am one of those who almost always use Rend ^^
(Now that is one rage efficient ability)

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Интервал между атаками увеличен на 10%.
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