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Storylines
Forming an Understanding Danger Near and Far A Mysterious Voice Core of the Matter Seeking the Unknown Finding Firim Security Measures Unseen Agents Now You May Speak Surveying Cyphers Cyphers of the First Ones The Way Forward Patterns Within Patterns Patch Intro Call of the Primus A Hasty Voyage Strangers in a Strange Land Long Lost Firim Give Me A Hand A Mutual Exchange For Research Purposes The Road to Haven Forging Connections Destroying the Destructors Defending Haven This Old Waystone The Forces Gather Our Forward Scouts Favor of the First Ones Necessary Harvest Knowing is Half the Battle Scour the Sands Harmony and Discord Battle for the Forge Together, We Ride In Plain Sight Reinforcements May Be Necessary This is Your Fault, Fix It Nothing is True A Break in Communication Doppelganger Duel Fighting for the Forge Seeking Haven Danger Near and Far A Mysterious Voice Core of the Matter Seeking the Unknown Finding Firim Unseen Agents Security Measures Now You May Speak Surveying Cyphers Cyphers of the First Ones The Way Forward

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Comment by entropicdragon

During this quest, Pelagos says: Before she fell into this state, she mentioned a core. Do you know what that could mean?
This appears to be an error. (Or Pelagos is psychic.) The Oracle was conscious during the A Mysterious Voice only and didn't say a thing about a core.

Comment by xxhz

This quest bugged for me - it wouldn't progress to the next step after talking to Firim. Abandoning and picking the quest up off of Firim again (you don't need to travel anywhere from where you are) fixed it.

Comment by Mypciscraze

Hi all

I present Forming an Understanding Storyline part of Secrets of the First Ones. This Story line have 11 Quests.

See Video Full Quest chain if need it - https://youtu.be/xeYJ3hnVZXk
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Quest Name:	Start and description
1 Danger Near and Far	Get inside bulding 40 74
2 A Mysterious Voice	Open Door then kill all waves last is The Culler
3 Core of the Matter	Speak with Elder Kreth 34 64
4 Seeking the Unknown	Go inside bulding 33 65 and press on Undelivered Mail
5 Finding Firim	Go 36 55 and search Xevveth corpse then move to cave 35 45 to speak with Firim
6a Security Measures	press on 10 Triggered Trap they are outside cave.
6b Unseen Agents	Kill 3 NPC: Xy'anath 38 46, Xy'bok 38 48 and Xy'varek36 50
8 Now You May Speak	Speak with Firim will be cinematic then conversation then press on Cypher Console
9 Surveying Cyphers	Examined Tranquil Concordance 38 48, Tranquil Concordance 32 62 and Tranquil Concordance 49 71 look from water side. Then go to cave 51 61 and kill Maw-Frenzied Lupine and press on Resonant Echoism
10 Cyphers of the First Ones	Use Cypher Console and pick up 1st skill. You will get Pocopoc spell to summon Him. YOu will unlock as well Zereth Mortis Effort.
11 The Way Forward	Go to Highlord Bolvar Fordragon to finish storyline after that Quest You will be able to do Patterns Within Patterns. Patterns Within Patterns is not required to finish storyline.

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Thank You i Hope that Help You :).

Comment by Bursi

On a quite new character, I had to do some of the old campaign quests (2/9) until helping to free the Runecarver's arm. I got The First Move when I turned in The Weak Link and returned to Oribos.
You can talk to Highlord Bolvar Fordragon instead of Polemarch Adrestes to skip until Korthia.

When I skipped it, I immediately got Call of the Primus. Talk to Tal-Inara in Oribos to start the questline for Zereth Mortis.
She also offers a skip, I've you have done the campaign with an alt before. You'll start there with 3/7 chapters of Secrets of the First Ones and unlocked world quests.

Beware that you will miss the rewards of the first three chapters, if you skip them.
Edit: With the Hotfix for March 18th, players who skip the Zereth Mortis story will get the reputation with the Enlightened.

Campaign:
Chapter 1

Chapter 1 took about 25 minutes with itemlevel <190.

Chapter 2:

Favor of the First Ones - burn 8 objectives
Necessary Harvest - collect 15 protein from enemies
Our Forward Scouts - find and talk to 3 Knight of the Ebon Blade
Knowing is Half the Battle - travel to the marked area, meet Shandris Feathermoon
Scour the Sands - go to the yellow circles to discover the area. If you lose your stealth, talk to Shandris Feathermoon nearby
/way 48.43 47.54 1
/way 51.51 48.59 2
/way 50.60 45.25 3
/way 47.99 44.84 4
Battle for the Forge - kill 8 enemies
Together, We Ride - click 5 Injured Ranger
In Plain Sight - reach the obelisk and kill enemies behind you until Converted Guardian is attackable. Kill it
Reinforcements May Be Necessary - return to Haven
A Break in Communication - give orders to 3 NPC
Nothing is True - kill 4 Jiro Caretaker: throw questitem Tonal Jammer on Jiro Caretaker
This is Your Fault, Fix It - click 5 Forge Defense Node
Doppelganger Duel - go to the marked area in the middle of the map and fight against this person :-)
Fighting for the Forge - talk to Lady Jaina Proudmoore
Seeking Haven - click the teleport to return

Chapter 2 took about 40 minutes with itemlevel <200.
I got several itemlevels, about 1900 rep with The Enlightened, some Anima and 12 renown so far (chapter 1 & 2).

Chapter 3:

Danger Near and Far - go to the marked area and enter the building
A Mysterious Voice - click the door, watch dialogue and kill attacking enemies
Core of the Matter - return to Haven and talk to Elder Kreth
Seeking the Unknown - enter the building at 33.63 65.78 and click the information
Finding Firim - find the NPC, click its corpse and go to the cave
Security Measures - click the Sensory Synchronizer near you. Leave the cave and reset 10 traps
Unseen Agents - kill 3 enemies
Now You May Speak - talk to Firim and click the console
Surveying Cyphers - examine the 3 concordances marked on your map. Visit the fourth location. Kill Maw-Frenzied Lupine and click the item behind him. Return to the cave
Cyphers of the First Ones - click the console again. Unlock the first option and get your Pocopoc
The Way Forward - return to Haven

Chapter 3 took about 30 minutes with itemlevel 200. It gave less rewards than the previous ones.
In total I got about 2k reputation, 15 itemlevels and 15 renown.

Accept Patterns Within Patterns before you go on with anything.

Comment by Phrozen090

I had an addon named Cinematic Disabler (i don't care about cinematics), I had to disable it and drop the quest and pick it back up again to get it to work.

Comment by Otomu

I could not progress during "Talk to Firim" step. I had to abandon the quest -AND- reload the game completely -AND- after picking up the quest again I could not skip the cutscene or it would bug again. So if you encounter this bug, just let the cutscene play as well.

Comment by Tecfan

Disable "Automatically skip cutscenes" in AllTheThings for the quest to work.

Comment by juliaz

Still bugged in DF. I abandoned the quest, reloaded the game, accepted the quest again and watched the cutscene. It worked.

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Now You May Speak

Talk to Firim about the oracle.

	Talk to Firim Glow (1)
	Talk to Firim (1)
	Examine the Console (1)
	Listen to Firim 2 (1)

Description

You truly brought me an oracle! Intact even! I have never known these divine beings to speak to anyone but automa. There is so much we could learn from her about Zereth Mortis. You must tell me everything!

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See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(64228))