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Comment by MeowRawrWoff

This I got from fishing in my lvl 3 pond. I threw it in and it spawned a Frostdeep Cavedweller and it dropped and . Though I already have I was suprised.

Comment by purpleblob

I just got Riding Turtle off of killing him. So there's the Sea Turtle then there's this as well.

http://i.imgur.com/HzJvnZ1.png

Comment by bloodvalor

This guys also just dropped the Weather-Beaten Journal for me!

Comment by Enquillion

You can invite a friend, have them phase to your garrison and kill the murloc together. That way you can give away the hat/pole :)

Comment by Kaigami

Confirmed to drop the Sea Turtle, got it on my very first kill.

I reckon the drop chance will actually be rather high, considering the huge amount of time you have to put into fishing to get this far, not just on draenor (100 enormous of each fish is like 1500~ casts or more), this is somewhat of a consolation prize to those of us that didnt get lucky enough to pick one up on our way here.

A sort of "well, i guess you probably deserve this by now"

Edit: Oh and for what its worth, that procced the "Turtles All The Way Down" Achievement, looting it off the mob

Comment by Aeyote

I can confirm that the Sea Turtle drops from this guy. I just looted it on my 7th kill.

Proof: http://oi59.tinypic.com/2djb5k.jpg

Comment by AwmgRyan

I just received an Unusual Compass from this mob today.

Comment by Nighteyes

Summoned by using Frostdeep Minnow in your horde garrison
Frostdeep Minnow is fished up in your garrison if you have Fishing Shack Level 3 in a lvl 3 garrison

For alliance, see Lunarfall Cavedweller summoned by Lunarfall Carp in the alliance garrison

Comment by hmalacco

Well, I farmed for Frostdeep Minnow for a long time and I'd like to post the results.
I farmed 1000 fish in my horde garrison.
I got:
Enormous Crescent Saberfish (759 : 75.9%)
Enormous Jawless Skulker (35 :3.4%)
Enormous Sea Scorpion (34 : 3.4%)
Enormous Blackwater Whiptail (31 : 3.1%)
Enormous Blind Lake Sturgeon (28 : 2.8%)
Enormous Fat Sleeper (28 : 2.8%)
Enormous Fire Ammonite (24 : 2.4%)
Enormous Abyssal Gulper Eel (22 : 2.2%)
Frostdeep Minnow (16 : 1.6%)
Crescent Saberfish (16 : 1.6%)
Fat Sleeper (2 : 0.2%)
Blackwater Whiptail (2 : 0.2%)
Abyssal Gulper Eel (1 : 0.1%)
Blind Lake Sturgeon Bait (1 : 0.1%)
Blind Lake Sturgeon (1 :0.1%)

Well, I farmed with the Ephemeral Fishing Pole and the Hightfish Cap. It took me to the 1100 fishing skill, since I have my fishing skill up to 700. I forgot to mention that I also used the Worm Supreme. and that's all.

I dropped the book that allow me to find fish (Weather-Beaten Journal), the Pet (Strand Crawler) and the toy Unusual Compass along with a lot of Worm Supreme and Ephemeral Fishing Pole that last 1 day. and the fishing hat Tentacled Hat or Hightfish Cap. (all drops from frostdeeep cavedweller)

Well That's it. I hope I helped.

Comment by triggz

The first one of these I spawned got instantly ganked and destroyed by my Benjamin Gibb and I got no loot off it despite managing to whack it once. Recommend not having a bodyguard or follower with you when using the minnows.

Comment by selahbela

Attention, mount-collectors!
For those of you trying to decide whether or not you'll fish for lunkers first or for the Frostdeep Minnow, I'd recommend the minnows. Nat's Lucky Coin drops off the Cavedwellers as well, so you'll be killing two birds with one stone. Of course this is coming from the woman who bitterly shakes her fist at the RNG gods, so I plan to be fishing for both the turtles for a while. So far I have received 10 coins, after about 30 kills. I'll update when I can! Good luck getting the turtles.

Comment by gzimmer

As of 6.1, drop rates for worm supreme from the cavedwellers has drastically dropped. I used to get at least a full 20 stack of these for a kill and now it's maybe 2-3 per kill.

Comment by MrDeadserious

As of 6.1 they now have a small chance of dropping 20-30 Primal Spirit

Comment by 1019041

the drop rate of Awesomefish and other items is alot lower after the patch

Comment by Danixp

These creatures are spawned by the player.

If you catch a Frostdeep Minnow in your Garrison lake, you can summon a Frostdeep Cavedewller (for Horde) or Lunarfall Cavedweller (for Alliance) which loot contains the Sea Turtle and even the TCG loot Riding Turtle although the drop rate is very small, you have ~0,5% chance for these mounts.

I got lucky today, and looted the Sea Turtle from them. I wish you the same luck as i had! :)

Comment by Megrrimar

just had riding turtle, drop after 481 casts and my 19 cavedweller kill :)
good luck out there

seems if you have all the dreanor baits for enourmous fish in ur bags, the drop rate of the frost Deep minnow increases slightly since the other bait drops are removed from drop table it seems, once 1 of each is bagged, hope this is somewhat helpfull since i have had 23 drops within about 4 hours of fishing using this method
fishing skill aprox 1000-1100 depending

Comment by Unfinishe

Got Sea Turtle on the 268th kill, Riding Turtle on the 323th

Comment by N3cr0m4nc3r

In case anyone was wondering, you can get both Riding Turtle and Sea Turtle from the same Frostdeep Cavedweller. I just started farming Frostdeep Minnow and on my 4th i got both mounts. I don't know if i'm one of the luckiest players around but i've yet to see other mounts that have way more chances of dropping. I've attached my screenshot with the drop.

Edit: Until my screenshot gets approved i'm adding this external screenshot link as proof: http://oi61.tinypic.com/iqhngg.jpg

Comment by 1482782

The loot table has changed. Other comments have addressed this, slightly, with the lower supreme worm drop rate.

Awesomefish and Grieferfish are also way down, if not completely off the loot table. I have summoned over 30 Frostdeep Cavedweller in the past few days, probably over 50 in the past weeks and have not been getting those to drop. I am actually fine with that because I have the achieve and got sick of mailing them to alts.

Other items on the loot table will be misrepresented in the drop% because you will learn/use the item and become ineligible for it to drop again while summoning+killing+looting solo. Gathering 5 of Frostdeep Minnow and joining any of the LFG garrison raid-sized groups, for the dailies etc, will allow you to prove this again and again. The recipe will drop fairly often, and I believe the mount and pet will be possible drops, but ones that you are ineligible to roll on or loot.

If there is a more technical/appropriate term for drops that wont ever show for after learning (opposed to a drop like the mount off of Huolon that will drop again and again for you) please let me know. Also let me know if, and how, that might be factored into the current loot tables.

Comment by Skisly

Got Sea Turtle on my 53rd kill, still don't get Riding Turtle after 144 kills.

Edit: Finally got Riding Turtle from Frostdeep Cavedweller number 312. I'm glad that its over.

Comment by 1496357

killed like 50-60 and no awesomefish :(

Comment by Refistixus

He also drops Unusual Compass, just dropped one for me.

EDIT: Also, don't be afraid of the drops on mounts. I was casually fishing and hanging out in my garrison with my buddy, he got Riding Turtle after 3rd kill and I got Sea Turtle after 26th kill. I know it is just plain luck, however there are more posts with numbers not very different. So, hang in there and happy fishing :)

EDIT2: Got my Riding Turtle after another 15 kills :) feeling lucky :P

Comment by yassr

Hello i just farmed for 3 days ... killed him about 260 times.

I don't know if i am considered lucky or not but here is the list what i got xD.

Unusual Compass x4
Noble's Monocle x3
Diamond-Tipped Cane x2
Battered Jungle Hat x1
Sea Turtle x1
Antique Silver Cufflinks x1
Bone Fishing Pole x1
Jeweled Fishing Pole x1
Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat x1
Recipe: Captain Rumsey's Lager x1
Sealed Vial of Poison x2
Nat's Lucky Coin x68

still waiting for the other mount ...

Comment by Bartoh

Just got my Sea Turtle to drop from this guy. Took about 26 hours split in two days.
-Dropped on my 201st Frostdeep Cavedweller kill and 5338 casts.
-My fishing skill was at 1100 the whole time by using Hightfish Cap, Ephemeral Fishing Pole and Worm Supreme with maxed 700 fishing skill.
-Everything averaged to about 17.5 seconds/cast (including time to kill Frostdeep Cavedweller and reapplying buffs, as well as short bathroom breaks etc.)
-My Frostdeep Minnow catch rate was 3.8%
-I made about 13k gold off of fish flesh since I have started as well as about 20k more worth on the auction house that still needs to sell. I wouldn't say this is the most efficient way of making gold but sure is a nice side effect.

Some other items of note I received were:
Unusual Compassx6
Gold Wedding Bandx4
Sealed Vial of Poisonx3
Bone Fishing Polex1
Jeweled Fishing Polex1

Comment by Tommyjoe

After having farmed about 2000 fish, and 62 Frostdeep Minnow and got both the Sea Turtle and the Riding Turtle. I got Sea Turtle after 51 kills and Riding Turtle just 11 kills after the first mount. Good luck (I used Hightfish Cap, Ephemeral Fishing Pole and Worm Supreme with a total of 1100 fishing level).
Good luck getting these. :)

Comment by Pocksy

I had Unusual Compass drop from a Frostdeep Cavedweller a few minutes ago, I don't see it on the drop list so I thought I'd mention for anyone interested.

Comment by DreamyEmz

After only an hour of farming and 10 kills later, I finally after many years was awarded my Sea Turtle and Achievement! The excitement is real!

Comment by silverborn

Well, I doubt anyone will try to do that but don't try killing more than 1 at a time.
I just used 1 fish, didn't kill the dweller, waited another 30 and used another fish but no dweller spawned.

Comment by Evellia

I was fishing for the first time in my garrison and on my 13th cast I received my first Frostdeep Minnow. The Frostdeep Cavedweller dropped:

Blind Lake Sturgeon Flesh x 26
Draenic Mana Potion x 2
Riding Turtle x1
Worm Supreme x2
Fish Cleaver x1
Tentacled Hat x1

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Comment by Turof

You need to have a level 3 fishing shack to even fish these damn things up! Good info like that needs to be first.

Comment by Areia25

With a fishing level of 1100 I've been getting Frostdeep Minnow at a rate of 3.5%. I've just received the Sea Turtle after 79 Minnows. In that time I've also recieved 3x Unusual Compass, 1x Noble's Monocle and 14x Nat's Lucky Coin. Still waiting on the Riding Turtle though!

Comment by Xiosgold

Alright, so after 355 Frostdeep Cavedweller kills I've gotten everything except Riding Turtle, but I won't give up as the mount hunter that I am.

11450 Fish Caught
200-300+ Tentacled Hat , Hightfish Cap & Ephemeral Fishing Pole
1 Jeweled Fishing Pole
1 Bone Fishing Pole <-- Really nice lookin!'
1 Sea Turtle Kill 260 (will link picture)
1 Strand Crawler
7 Unusual Compass
111 Nat's Lucky Coin Still need reputation though(sadface)
1000+ Primal Spirit

After fishing for the Turtle mounts for I don't know how many hours, I can tell you that I have not gotten a single Awesomefish from killing that Murloc 350+ times. So they no longer drop.

I am using Tentacled Hat , Ephemeral Fishing Pole & Worm Supreme. + max fishing skill. 700(max skill) + 100(hat) + 100(rod) + 200 (Fishing Lure) = 1100.

What you should think about.

Don't throw Frostdeep Minnow if the Murloc is still alive, because it won't spawn if you do ( I've done this twice).

Make sure you don't have 5 Frostdeep Minnow in your bags when you fish because you will not be able to loot it in any way if you catch one.( I've done this three times)

Don't let your body-guard kill the Murloc because you will not be able to loot it if he does.(never done this)

I've been fishing this hole time with all of the baits still in my backpacks because a lot of comments said that the chance of getting Frostdeep Minnow increase, not that it makes sence but I still did what they recommended.

DON'T vendor your fish SELL it on the Auction House, I've made over 100k gold for selling all of these fishes & on EU Draenor(which is a high pop server). You might get even more if you're on a low or medium pop server.

You can invite a friend or two if you feel like giving away a couple of item(s), but I would recommend having Master Loot activated if the mount would drop because well you know, "humans".

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Thanks for reading and hope it helped & don't give up!

Edit: 440 kills still nothing !

Edit2: Took a break, now at 500 and still nothing.

Edit3: Finally it dropped on my 539th murloc ! Thank god ! NEVER GIVE UP ! HUZZAH

About 16-17k fishes caught.

Comment by Jadecore

Got the Sea Turtle after 260th Frostdeep Cavedweller kill and at long last had the Riding Turtle drop on my 435th kill. This was by far the most tedious of all grinds I've ever done but in the end it was worth it. Other notable drops included; 5 x Noble's Monocle, 2 x Diamond-Tipped Cane, 2 x Gold Wedding Band 2 x Jeweled Fishing Pole, 1 x Bone Fishing Pole and I don't know how many Unusual Compass'.

At the end of the grind I had a 3.9% drop of Frostdeep Minnow.

DO NOT GIVE UP! It only takes one little Frostdeep Minnow/Lunarfall Carp and that one could always be the next one you catch :)

Comment by TheLightfire

As of this patch, the loot from this mob is personal. So you can gather a group of up to 40 people fishing in your garrison each being eligible for the loot and thus having the chance to obtain the 2 precious mounts.

I just got the non TCG turtle with this method :)

Comment by Sarthorius

For those that use the SlashDeleteAll+MacroToolkit addons to clear a set list of items from the bags I made these mostly for the fish that drop from him, baits too:

/mtdg
/sda i worm supreme
/sda i Draenic Rejuvenation Potion
/sda i Draenic Mana Potion
/sda i Healing Tonic
/sda i Enormous Abyssal Gulper Eel
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel Flesh
/sda i Abyssal Gulper Eel Bait
/sda i Enormous Blackwater Whiptail
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail Flesh
/sda i Blackwater Whiptail Bait
/sda i Enormous Blind Lake Sturgeon
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon Flesh
/sda i Blind Lake Sturgeon Bait
/sda i Enormous Fat Sleeper
/sda i Fat Sleeper
/sda i Fat Sleeper Flesh
/sda i Fat Sleeper Bait
/sda i Enormous Fire Ammonite
/sda i Fire Ammonite
/sda i Fire Ammonite Tentacle
/sda i Fire Ammonite Bait
/sda i Enormous Jawless Skulker
/sda i Jawless Skulker
/sda i Jawless Skulker Flesh
/sda i Jawless Skulker Bait
/sda i Enormous Sea Scorpion
/sda i Sea Scorpion
/sda i Sea Scorpion Segment
/sda i Sea Scorpion Bait
/sda i Bright Baubles
/sda i Glass Fishing Bobber
/sda i Enormous Crescent Saberfish
/sda i Crescent Saberfish

The low chance drops I left off this, but If you want you can include them, just start a line with /sda i .

Comment by Terlon

After fishing in a premade group with over 40 people, these mobs also drop the toy called @Unusual Compass.

Comment by jjanchan

Since the changes to Personal Loot in the Legion pre-patch, the lot from Frostdeep Cavedweller and Lunarfall Cavedweller can be looted by EVERYONE in a raid group.
This means that creating a 40-man raid of people that are fishing simultaneously in the garrison can increase your changes of fishing up rare items like Riding Turtle and Sea Turtle by 40 times. There are many such groups in the Group Finder as of late July, 2016.

Note that everyone fishing must have the achievement Draenor Angler in order to fish up the Frostdeep Minnows/Lunarfall Carp that summon the Cavedwellers. The achievement is NOT required to loot the mount, however.

The loot method should be set to Personal loot, of course.

Comment by evildisco

FYI - they must have nerfed it since Legion dropped. I was just in a raid group and only one person was able to loot the body even when it was set to personal. Just don't waste your time if you are trying to get coins as I was getting coins wayyyy faster by myself.

Comment by watitiz06

has anyone got a duplicate mount like you already have it? i have about 500 kills, and havent seen either turtle mount but i already got both of them. i hope i didnt waste days been trying to get the tcg turtle to sell......

Comment by Vaylinn

I just tried it with a raid group with loot set to personal and it isn't as effective. Not sure if it's been the same before, but at least today with personal loot only one of the raid members get the "white-colored" loot. Items that are rare quality or higher are rolled on by everyone, as the loot window comes up.

I think it's more effective to do it alone, rather than have that low chance in getting a mount in a raid group. Unless you are being boosted by friends that already have the mount(s), that helps fish for the Minnows/Carps and uses them.

Comment by hulusta

Hey everyone! just want to give you an update, as of BfA you CAN still get the riding and sea turtle! it took me ALOT of killing the cavedwellers. i started at 0 nat pagle coins and ended up with 90 nat pagle coins, i'm still a stranger to nat pagle xD Don't give up it might take you a bit longer, just like me. But you'll get it eventually good luck everyone out there (don't know the exact number of cave dwellers i killed but based on statistics of the nat pagle drop chance and such, probably around 250)

Comment by selkie47

You need to have a level 3 fishing shack to even fish these damn things up! Good info like that needs to be first.

For those trying to farm for baubleworms, take note of this

Comment by KeviSZN

Here's my depressing experience:

- 11,418 total fish caught
- 582 Frostdeep Minnow caught (5.09% rate)
- Sea Turtle found on kill 446
- Riding Turtle found on kill 582
- 1588 Primal Spirit
- 170 Nat's Lucky Coin
- 22 Very Unlucky Rock
- 16 Sealed Vial of Poison
- 13 Unusual Compass
- 3 Strand Crawler
- 2 Ornate Drinking Stein
- 2 Gold Wedding Band
- 1 Battered Jungle Hat
- 1 Antique Silver Cufflinks

I used Underlight Angler , Oversized Bobber, and Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat in case that matters.
Good luck. Don't give up, you can do it :)

Comment by Katchet

After a few hours (maybe around 30 kills?) the Sea Turtle dropped for me! Hoping to get the Riding Turtle next.

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Frostdeep Cavedweller

This NPC can be found in Frostwall (19).

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