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Monkec의 댓글

beta test guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7vCSlW1mSU
(ru, with link to stream)

203799의 댓글

Ja, they are here to pump (/clap) you up!

wimbo125의 댓글

Probably a reference to the recurring Saturday Night Live sketch "Pumping up with Hans & Franz", with several of their drops refering to their extreme muscularity and sports known for their muscular sportsmen, like the Giant Pumpers and the Tablet of Turnbuckle Teamwork.

1237534의 댓글

They look pretty cute, but they are more than capable of using you as floor mops.

45047의 댓글

I like the fact that the encounter is called Hans'gar and Franzok.
I bet that Heidi Klum wanted an encounter to be called as she named her boobs (yes, she named her boobs "Hans" and "Franz"). Whatever her reasons would be to have her *!@# perpetuated in WoW....

784734의 댓글

this guy sounds like arnold swarchenegger
he even says "ill be back"

TweFoju의 댓글

My guild called them "The dudley boyz" due to the fact that their moves are all wrestling related to the Dudleys

jetfire158의 댓글

Normal & Heroic

This encounter is actually very simple. The bosses themselves have very few mechanics to deal with. That being said, the fight really boils down to the raid being able to stay on top of avoiding environmental mechanics, which can definitely take some getting used to. So without further ado, a summary of the encounter:

The bosses themselves.

몸통 박치기 - Causes 으스러진 척추뼈 and 여진. Spread out, move away from the target. Don't get hit by it more than once.
마비시키는 메어꽂기 - While these guys don't have a swap mechanic, tanks need to pay special attention to this. As of the current patch, you will need to pop a defensive CD before you are grabbed, because it will stun you. A boss encounter addon that will give you ample warning before this ability is cast is highly recommended.
훼방의 포효 - Interrupts spell casting, so healers especially need to stop casting when this ability is activated.
해골파쇄 - Move away from the hammer if possible.
피로 맺힌 결속 - Hans and Franz share a health pool, so be multi-dotting, etc.
흥분 - The 'DPS race' aspect of the fight--the longer they are up, the harder it becomes to stay alive.

Environmental Threats

불타는 철판 - These fiery plates will come out on the conveyor belts. They move very slowly and are easy to avoid. If you die to them, you are bad. Also, if you just stand on the narrow strips of terrain in between the belts, you will still get hit by the plates if one comes down the belt on either side of you, so you cannot simply stand in one spot.
그슬리는 화상 - You can't just stand on the belt and let yourself run into the wall. Fire will come out of it, and you will die.
압착 - Sections of the belt will light up with a yellow-orange color before the presses come down. Move out of the animated area. Remember, the presses will not come down on the same place twice in a row. Therefore, run toward an area where the presses just came down last. Once again, you cannot simply stay on the strips in between the belts. If two stamps come down on either side of you, you will still be hit. If you are hit, you will be one-shot unless you are at 100% health though you will probably die if you are hit twice in a row on Heroic; however as of this point in time, 보호의 축복 or 천상의 보호막 will make you immune to the damage. On the other hand 공격 저지 unfortunately is useless against them.

There will be three 'environment' phases, each occurring shortly after Crippling Suplex is cast, and the belts begin moving. It is very useful here to zoom your camera all the way out, and begin watching for mechanics once the belts start rolling. The first phase will involve only the Searing Plates, the second will be Stamping Presses, and in the third both mechanics will appear simultaneously, although the plates will still come out first. Presumably this cycle will repeat itself, however they should be close to dead by the time the third round ends.

TL;DR

Tanks - Watch out for 마비시키는 메어꽂기, and be sure to pop a CD before you are grabbed.
DPS - Stay out of effects from 몸통 박치기, and be sure to multi-dot, etc.
Healers - Stop casting when 훼방의 포효 goes off.
All - Don't die to environmental mechanics.

bossfight1의 댓글

Looking at their loot tables, it just occurred to me;

They're in a room full of belts, so no pants ever drop.

Foxpaw의 댓글

This fight is amazing, and can be summarized in a single word.

*ahem* : DOOOOOOOOOODGE

brownham의 댓글

Franzok yells: Your bones will be crushed to dust! -- Saw V
Hans'gar yells: I'm going to take you DOWN! --this one could be anything, but I like to think its from Shoot to Thrill

Hans'gar yells: Ha! Quit... hitting yourselves!-- Ace Ventura
Franzok yells: Defenseless weakling!-- ?

Hans'gar yells: I'll be back! --The Terminator

Hans'gar yells: Wait till they get a load of me.-- Batman (Jack Nicholson)
Franzok yells: Hah, you think that was good? You just wait! --?

Hans'gar yells: No, Aaagh! I wasn't done yet!-- ?
Franzok yells: If it bleeds, we can kill it!-- Predator

Franzok yells: There can only be... two! Ha ha ha! --Highlander

Franzok yells: Hear me now... and believe me... later... --Pumping up With Hans & Franz
Hans'gar yells: No, not like this...-- The Matrix

274582의 댓글

Commenting here just to say I used to watch Hanz and Franz on SNL as a kid, and this encounter had me so rip-roarious with laughter, I needed a new shirt. I was cutting up with my guildmates so much, I needed a bandaid. Ok done :)

Pothemus의 댓글

There's actually a little trick for this fight that can minimise your movement.

Standing in between the two conveyor belt actually stops you from being moved, you can just dodge incoming stamps and plates by moving to the edge of the middle little strip.

Find a good position in the raid and move just a tad bit to avoid all these without actually having to move onto the belt itself.

marciosilva의 댓글

Hans & Franz are back! We're here to pump you up!

Skullhawk13의 댓글

This fight perfectly illustrates what blizzard meant when they said movement wouldn't be t important. Ie, Blatant lies.

Eilonthay의 댓글

So you want to find out what they say during the fight, but don't want to actually fight them? Here you go!

Hans'gar yells: Hey Franz? Franzok! We got a jam!
Franzok yells: So? Go un-jam it den!
Hans'gar yells: I ain't un-jammin it! I un-jammed it last time!
Franzok yells: You wanna tell Blackhand we got a stamper that ain't stampin'?
Hans'gar yells: Ey you! Get in dere and un-jam that stamper!
Franzok yells: Ha ha ha! Guess dis batch will have some impurities.

Franzok yells: Your bones will be crushed to dust!
Hans'gar yells: I'm going to take you DOWN!
Hans'gar yells: Ha! Quit...hitting yourselves!
Franzok: Pump the forge up to overdrive!
Franzok yells: Hah, you think that was good? You just wait!
Hans'gar yells: I'll be back!
Hans'gar yells: Wait till they get a load of me.
Franzok yells: Hear me now...and believe me...later...
Hans'gar yells: No, not like this...

It's definitely one of the more amusing dialogues in the entire game. WoD has actually got a fair amount of humor in it, and I'm glad Blizzard took the time to put it in there, voice acting and all. =)

dasbaum의 댓글

LFR Bug: boss despawns sometime, I believe it has something to do with moving tiles and bosses targeting players out fo range or on moving tiles.

Every attempt where they despawned, we had someone outside or on edges ~5-7 times.

Ask everybody in LFR to stack on one spot (set a world marker), which does not move (lanes between the rolling bands). And hope for the best. It worked for us. Killed them on our first attempt while everybody was stacking.

bolllocks의 댓글

Still impossible to solo as of 7.1.0 on normal or LFR mode :(

Bosses despawn like previous comment says.

helotcommander의 댓글

Solo-able by a Ret Pally as of 7.1.5

Use the 공허 소환 안내서 before pull, taunt and do nothing. Once your pet dies, DPS.

Your Bound Voidwalker takes the Crippling Suplex, letting you dps them to the next phase.

Metrochx의 댓글

It is possible to just bug out the fight to be able to solo it. If you stand far back halfway on the fence and let Franzok get right on top of you (with the Skullcracker ability) the fight will get buggy when they try to pick you up. If you're lucky they will get desynced and you just have to kill them.

Might be a bad description but if you just fiddle around a bit you'll be able to do it without special trinkets or pets.

cstober2010의 댓글

Heroic mode: Solo'd as 893 windwalker monk. Trick is to use 흑우 조각상 소환. However, you MUST only keep aggro on one. So to start, throw your statue on one boss and taunt the other. Your boss will throw you at the statue. From there, they will shift as intended.

My problem was I kept touch of deathing both of them and getting aggro, even with the statue down. You can do massive damage but if its just you, they cant throw you at yourself. So it will reset. Gotta let your companion keep aggro on one of the bosses. After one boss leaps on the ledge and the other remains on the belt, it should be smooth sailing.

tyr2009의 댓글

Some classes have it far easier than others. This has been tough for me to solo as a Prot warrior (@this time i866 with lvl46 weapon). The second guy to grab you causes the first one to evade miss you and then the fight resets.

There are two ways to beat this fight solo. The first requires you to use summonable trinkets such as Manual of Void-Calling, Mirror of the Blade, and Barov Lumberjack Caller. The goal is to have the trinket summon get picked up and slammed, or you to be slammed at the summon. The Lumberjacks and Mirrors can survive two transitions, if you have the bosses full attention.

The second way to beat it is to make one of the guys evade on the fence and hope the evade guy is the first guy to pick you up. The second guy will pick you up and the evade guy will dysync and not despawn. There are two good spots to do this on the fences. The first spot is as seen here in this DH solo video by asdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vwYCR8Elc&t=0s&ytbChannel=asdf. The location is beginning fence corner (far NE on the map), you can hop up and keep hopping as they come, when the first guy jumps at you he will get stuck on the fence and evade. Which then falls to rng on whether or not he will grab you first or second. A second spot is running on the fence between the bosses. Keep running between two metal pillars on the fence until both of them move to be on the fence. One will jump on you and end up evading. Then it falls to rng on the grabs.

Good luck. My luck would break around 1m 30s.

Ttotem의 댓글

As of 7.2.5 this encounter can now be soloed without the use of pets/guardians. I confirmed this on my blood dk.

meganerd18의 댓글

So they reset when they're nearly dead because they're not designed to handle one person doing so much damage to them I guess. This sucks.

As I say that I did manage it, but I appear to have simultaneously wiped and won. Hans'gar gave his death quote, but Franzok gave his wipe quote.

SerroDan의 댓글

Guide to soloing 검은바위 용광로 on Mythic difficulty!

Link: https://youtu.be/o2SyYhD4Jdg

In this guide you will be facing 3 Bosses which are covered in the The BlackForge.
1. 한스가르
2. 화염칼날 카그라즈
3. 크로모그

Why do we want to solo this on Mythic difficulty?
Unless you have completed the Quest, 검은 손의 인장 (신화), you will not be able to skip straight to 블랙핸드.
블랙핸드 has a 1% chance to drop a 강철발굽 파괴자, which is a highly desirable mount!

Mehazael의 댓글

Tried solo this on heroic with my paladin in tank spec, which didn't work because of the Crippling Suplex-reset weirdness. So I changed into dps spec and beat them without problem, and without trinkets or so to summon companions.

Lake8888의 댓글

Bug warning. If you down their HP quick enough (easily doable with 7.3.2 gear on 10m normal), both treadmill phases will overlap with both bosses jumping out. When this happens, their HPs will "decouple". If you kill one of the brothers as he return, the other one will still be alive and will despawn shortly after. You WILL not be able to loot the despawned boss or do the encounter again.

This can be solved by killing both bosses before they even exit the treadmill (done with ilvl 940 BM hunter) OR rushing to kill the 2nd boss before he despawns. The gates will be down at this point and you have like 5 seconds to kill the other boss.

Aoratox의 댓글

This boss is so broken. We can indeed now solo this encounter without the use of companions (like pets), but every time I defeat the encounter, I can only loot one boss. I spoke to a GM about it, he told me Hans and Franz have a certain script they need to run through. If the script is not completed, the boss will either despawn before or ON the kill. With the latter, you will be unable to loot the boss. I interpreted this explaination as "I am killing too fast / too high DPS". So I slowed down. I just stood there, auto attacked whatever boss was punching my face and did nothing else. About three minutes later, the boss dies. The bodies do not despawn this time, so for that it worked, but I was only able to loot ONE corpse, where I should be able to loot both. Something did not go right... again.

I am interested to see if other people encounter the same problem and if perhaps a solution is known.

1731820의 댓글

Ok so the way I did it that ensures you can loot both bosses is to burst them as hard as you can, I'm 969 ilvl and got them to about 30%. At that point, both will jump off the main platform, simply wait out some of the treadmill stuff, but stay as close to them as you can without going outside the platform. Then one of them will jump in, kill him; the other will be outside the platform but will be attack-able. I saved my cooldowns for him and killed him fast and was then able to loot both corpses. Good luck!

dkcm의 댓글

To run this wing of the raid: Zone in. Turn left. Take elevator lift down.

3D 보기 링크

한스가르

이 NPC를 찾을 수 있는 곳: 검은바위 용광로 .

교전 도감

영웅		신화
치명적		중요
탱커		DPS
힐러		차단 가능
마법		저주
독		질병
광폭화

개요 – 한스가르 및 프란조크와의 전투는 가동 중인 검은바위 조립 시설 한가운데에서 벌어집니다.
특정 생명력 구간에서 쌍둥이 오크 중 한 명은 전투 구역에서 뛰쳐나와 공장 설비를 작동시킵니다. 공장 설비는 용해된 검은바위 광석판이 실린 운송 벨트나 높은 곳에서 내려찍는 거대한 압축기 중 하나입니다.
- 공격 담당 –
  프란조크의 [훼방의 포효]는 주문 시전을 방해하며, 분노가 쌓일수록 더욱 빈번하게 사용됩니다.
  한스가르와 프란조크는 [피로 맺힌 결속]으로 생명력을 공유합니다.
- 치유 담당 –
  한스가르나 프란조크가 땅에 착지할 때는 [여진]이 발생해 공격대 전체에 피해를 줍니다.
  프란조크의 [훼방의 포효]는 주문 시전을 방해하며 분노가 증가할수록 더 빨리 사용합니다.
  한스가르 또는 프란조크가 전투 구역에서 뛰쳐나갈 때, 방어 전담을 둘 다 집어 들어 [마비시키는 메어꽂기]로 두 명 모두에게 큰 물리 피해를 입힙니다.
- 방어 담당 –
  한스가르 또는 프란조크가 전투 구역에서 뛰쳐나갈 때, 방어 전담을 둘 다 집어 들어 [마비시키는 메어꽂기]로 두 명 모두에게 큰 물리 피해를 입힙니다.
  한스가르와 프란조크가 도약 후 착지할 때마다 범위 안에 [으스러진 척추뼈]를 적용시킵니다. 이 효과가 누적될 때마다 받는 피해가 증가합니다.

환경 위험 요소

가동 중인 검은바위 생산 시설 내부에서 전투가 벌어지므로, 주변 시설에 의한 피해를 받지 않도록 주의해야 합니다.

프란조크
- 몸통 박치기 – 적을 향해 도약합니다.
  - 으스러진 척추뼈 – 무자비한 몸통 박치기를 가해, 대상이 받는 물리 피해를 50%만큼 증가시킵니다.
    신화 난이도에서 이 효과는 17042의 물리 피해를 12미터 내의 적에게 나누어 입힙니다.
  - 여진 – 잔혹한 충격파가 방을 휩쓸어, 공격대 전원에게 2초마다 1023의 물리 피해를 입습니다.
- 피로 맺힌 결속 – 한스가르와 프란조크는 피로 결속을 맺어 생명력을 공유합니다.
- 마비시키는 메어꽂기 – 적을 집어들고 위협 수준이 가장 높은 대상에게 짓뭉개, 집어든 대상의 최대 생명력에 해당하는 물리 피해를 입힙니다.
- 훼방의 포효 – 귀청이 터질듯한 포효로 100미터 내에 있는 모든 적의 주문 시전을 방해합니다.
- 흥분 – 한스가르와 프란조크는 피해를 입으면 분노가 쌓입니다.
  분노가 증가함에 따라 흥분이 격해지며 근접 공격력이 증가하고, 해골파쇄의 공격력도 증가합니다. 또한 훼방의 포효의 시전 시간이 줄어들고, 몸통 박치기의 횟수가 증가합니다.
- 해골파쇄 – 주변 적 한 명에게 망치를 던져 2982의 물리 피해를 입힙니다.
한스가르
- 몸통 박치기 – 적을 향해 도약합니다.
  - 으스러진 척추뼈 – 무자비한 몸통 박치기를 가해, 대상이 받는 물리 피해를 50%만큼 증가시킵니다.
    신화 난이도에서 이 효과는 17042의 물리 피해를 12미터 내의 적에게 나누어 입힙니다.
  - 여진 – 잔혹한 충격파가 방을 휩쓸어, 공격대 전원에게 2초마다 1023의 물리 피해를 입습니다.
- 피로 맺힌 결속 – 한스가르와 프란조크는 피로 결속을 맺어 생명력을 공유합니다.
- 마비시키는 메어꽂기 – 적을 집어들고 위협 수준이 가장 높은 대상에게 짓뭉개, 집어든 대상의 최대 생명력에 해당하는 물리 피해를 입힙니다.
- 흥분 – 한스가르와 프란조크는 피해를 입으면 분노가 쌓입니다.
  분노가 증가함에 따라 흥분이 격해지며 근접 공격력이 증가하고, 해골파쇄의 공격력도 증가합니다. 또한 훼방의 포효의 시전 시간이 줄어들고, 도약 강타의 횟수가 증가합니다.

가이드

Blackrock Foundry Raid Overview Hans'gar and Franzok (Blackrock Foundry) Strategy Guide

한스가르

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가이드

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