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评论来自 Smokinbull

any idea what lvl is required to learn that? is it possible to skill all the way with 85?

tanks

评论来自 867374

You can discover this recipe as early as 580 skill points. Personally, I got it somewhere between 580-585 skill.

评论来自 mredig

In raw materials, this will take

12x 黑色延极矿石
12x 白色延极矿石

OR if you transmute the 幽冥铁块 to 延极锭

60x 幽冥铁块

OR you can do that with access to a miner and smelt 120x 幽冥铁矿石 to get the bars

Hopefully you have access to a miner!

评论来自 ParRathorne

Just for clarity since the information here is incorrect, this recipe can be discovered at 560. It is red and gives you +5 alchemy if used at 560. To discover it, craft any of the potions/flasks that give you a chance of discovering alchemy 'patterns'. If you are lucky enough, the transmute sells for bucket-loads at the moment (6.5k on Al'Akir atm)... so get selling!

评论来自 1039905

Appears to share a cooldown with Transmute Pyrium Ore.

评论来自 grevios

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600.

I did this transmute 6 times prior to hitting 600 and got 0 procs, and have since done the transmute twice and got 2 procs. Might need others to confirm this, and will update as I get extra information.

EDIT: have since done it another 4 times and only had 1 further proc, so the proc rate definitely is not that high. Still haven't found anyone else who has had a proc prior to 600 skill, so I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely.

评论来自 staramor

Transmute Living Steel Shares a cooldown with transmute Pyrium , Transmute Living Elements, Transmute Water to Air and others that I have seen reported elsewhere.

In Cata, the Transmute Truegold similarly shared a cooldown with those others but Truegold no longer triggers that cooldown group.

I am guessing that each Alchemist has a daily "Have I done a transmute or not" Boolean variable and "major" transmutations trigger that "on/off" switch. It’s conceivable that there would be more than one variable for different classes of spells.

It easier for me to get my head around it (semi-RP) if I don't think of the spell itself having a trigger, but the alchemist only having so much arcane power to focus on a type of activity each day.

评论来自 Cleptor

Unlike the rumors elsewhere, you neither need to be level 90, nor do you need to have 600 alchemy skill for your transmutation expertise to work on this.

My alchemist is a transmutation master and this transmutation proc'd a few days ago when he was level 86 and the alchemy skill was still at 592. I got two 活化钢 out of one transmutation.

BTW: I learned this while making 亵渎油膏 so don't carelessly vendor or throw away your 刺皮鱼 if you happen to have any.

评论来自 138867

Got an x5 proc of this the other day... just about fell out of my chair. x2 proc is more common, but only about 1 out of 5 transmutes if you're lucky.

评论来自 125795

If you are a transmute master, this doesn't seem to proc any additional living steel until you hit 600. (...) I think the theory is still possible, but unlikely

RNG is RNG. thats not how things work.

It's entirely possible the proc has something to do with your skill level. Like with Mote of Harmony in MoP, they have a rough droprate of 10% when you are lvl85, and 11-12-13-14-15% droprate when you are lvl86-90. This was never uncovered pre-MoP, this difference in droprate based on our level. So I would say a proc rate based on profession skill is not that unlikely, and I will not dismiss it as a possibility yet. I guess time will show.

评论来自 HolyShield

Doing this transmute (at 600 skill level) for two weeks now each day and never have any extra bar.

Around how much small could be the proc rate?

评论来自 716334

Can anyone tell me how the transmute cool-down resets now since patch 5.1 ? It used to reset at 0000 server time but that seems to have changed since the patch. There is a blue post from Blizzard saying that the USA/Oceanic servers have had daily resets consolidated to 1 set time but there's no equivalent post for EU servers. If it makes any difference, I'm on Terenas EU so its based on Paris time for us. I could wait up till the middle of the night and keep checking but if anyone has the info already I'd really appreciate knowing. Thanks.

评论来自 ambrelle

How do i get transmute steel if I am already a transmute master before the patch?

I am a lelvel 560 alchemist. The teachers at SW and at Dal say I am maxed as a Zen master. This is so frustrating. Thanks so much, to anyone who can help!

评论来自 rb4havoc

Blizzard apparently changed this so you can now discover recipes other than the ones in MoP. I just discovered Transmute: Primal Water to Shadow through it.

评论来自 huspomike

Hi. Could someone with practical experience comment on this for me:

. . . Can an alchemist open a trade-window, and allow the non-alchemist to place 3 Trillium Bar + 3 Spirit of Harmony (soulbound items) into the window, and then transmute the bunch for somebody else?

. . . This would be very similar to the way that Rogues can open the trade window, then pick another player's locked item, or how Enchanters can sometimes enchant a wearable item through the trade window.

. . . . . . Thanks for considering this. Sorry for being naive.

评论来自 1170002

Can you make more than one living steel at once? Lets say you have the mats for 10 living steel, could you make 10 living steel at once, or only one at a time?

评论来自 Arachnadactly

I just learnt the transmute the riddle of steel which uses 3 Trillium bars and 3 spirit of harmony.
I didnt know about that recipe and it hasnt been mentioned here. It saves half your trillium ore.

评论来自 jordexciu

The cheapest way I found to unlock this is through 炼金师的回春水

Costs 1x 水晶瓶 (80c)
and 2x 绿茶叶 (75s each on my server)

30g for 20 potions.

评论来自 1451937

Got this today on my lvl 80 alchemist at around 590-595 skill.

评论来自 pakteri

This will make your life easier! Try it out.
To make this work; you have to run the script in the chat box (you copy-paste it and press enter) and it will create an icon that you can drag onto your bars.

Alchemy

炼金催化剂 : /run PickupSpell(156587)
德拉诺炼金秘术 : /run PickupSpell(175880)
转化：活化钢 : /run PickupSpell(114780)

Blacksmithing

真钢锭 : /run PickupSpell(171690)
德拉诺锻造秘术 : /run PickupSpell(176090)
两仪延极锭 : /run PickupSpell(143255)
霹雳钢锭 : /run PickupSpell(138646)

Enchanting

时光水晶 : /run PickupSpell(169092)
德拉诺附魔秘术 : /run PickupSpell(177043)

Engineering

弹簧齿轮 : /run PickupSpell(169080)
德拉诺工程学秘术 : /run PickupSpell(177054)
贾德的特制能量源 : /run PickupSpell(139176)

Inscription

战争颜料 : /run PickupSpell(169081)
德拉诺铭文秘术 : /run PickupSpell(177045)
智慧卷轴 : /run PickupSpell(112996)

Jewelcrafting

塔拉迪特水晶 : /run PickupSpell(170700)
德拉诺珠宝加工秘术 : /run PickupSpell(176087)
神龙之心 : /run PickupSpell(140050)

Leatherworking

上蜡皮革 : /run PickupSpell(171391)
德拉诺制皮秘术 : /run PickupSpell(176089)
强化华丽毛皮 : /run PickupSpell(142976)
华丽制皮秘诀 : /run PickupSpell(140040)

Tailoring

妖纹布 : /run PickupSpell(168835)
德拉诺裁缝秘术 : /run PickupSpell(176058)
神纹布 : /run PickupSpell(143011)
帝王丝绸 : /run PickupSpell(125557)

PS: You can do this for all your spells on your professions. All you gotta do is check the spell id from wowhead and use it.

评论来自 CainePipe

Anyone know if this transmute can give you one of the BC transmute discoveries? It does share a cooldown with the all the other transmutes that do.

评论来自 middles24

Something might be up with the BFA pre-patch or I'm extremely unlucky. I have made 300 rejuves, still no Transmute: Living Steel.

评论来自 pat33

DON'T FORGET TO STUDY: 转化大师 with SW/ORG Alchemy trainers to enable a chance for more transmutes on each daily!

评论来自 JohnCrichton

After crafting more than 200 potions and only i got 2 recipes and no Living Steel i returned here and spotted the text above the info Difficulty: 75 75 75 which means u need 75 alchemy on Pandaria so be able to get it,i will test that today and will post again if it worked :)

评论来自 Yama1291

I think you need at least 60 Pandaria Alchemy to be able to randomly learn this. The earliest skill level I got it at was 62.

评论来自 addmydataz

After reading up on Transmute: Living Steel here on WoWhead, reading through all of the comments, & checking my Alchemy Profession Tab, something seems a bit off.

Several of the posters mention using Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion for obtaining T:LS, burning through a pile of Green Tea Leaves & not obtaining it until " 'X' level in Pandarian Alchemy" or "637 potions", etc.

Reading the description for Alchemist's Rejuvenation reveals the following: "When making this potion, you have a chance to learn other Pandaria alchemy recipes." Checking under the heading for Transmute: Living Steel in my Unlearned Recipes tab, it noted how to get it: "Profession: Pandaria Alchemy. Discovery: Other Pandaria Alchemy Recipes."

I think the wording under the Rejuvenation potion listing has given the False Impression that you have to use a recipe that says "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" to obtain Transmute: Living Steel & others like Riddle of Steel, which has the same "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" notation. I tried discovering Transmute: Living Steel by making a large amount of Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potions with no luck, although I discovered several other recipes, until the discoveries seemed to slow/stop when that recipe went Grey. I switched to making potions/flasks/etc that would provide a skill up until level 60, at which point I went back to making the Rejuvenation Potions, to test what other's had said about a "certain skill level" to -discover- T:LS. I did small batches with no luck, leveled 2 points more, tried again, same, 2 more, same, until level 66. Still no T:LS recipe.

I decided to level Alchemy to 70 before trying again with the Alchemist's Rejuvenation Potion. I mixed 2 Master Mana Potions which were still Orange, hit Alchemy Level 68, & Transmute: Living Steel popped! Success!

Note, however, the Master Mana Potion description does NOT say "other Pandaria alchemy recipes". It says instead, "you have a chance to learn additional recipes."

I checked my Unlearned Recipes tab again. I had 4 recipes left to learn, 3 of them stating "other Pandaria alchemy recipes" in their how-to-obtain description. I decided to test acquiring them with a recipe that would provide a skill-up & had a "you have a chance to learn additional recipes" note ONLY.

I mixed Master Mana potions, leveling from AlcLvl70 to 73, at which point Elixir of Peace popped. I gained two more recipes at 74 & 75 and was awarded Zen Master Alchemy. I made 5 more Mana mixes, totaling 10 mixes/20 potions, before the Final Recipe popped, which was Riddle of Steel. This tells me ANY recipe can pop "Transmute: Living Steel", or any other recipe.

The cheapest recipe for discovering more recipes is probably Alchemist's Rejuvenation, but I would recommend gathering what materials you need to Level Alchemy NORMALLY, and simply level up your Profession by making items with a Skill-up all the way to Level 75. If you still don't have whatever recipe you need/want, THEN make a pile of whatever. I leveled from Lvl 1 to 75, Discovered Every Recipe (but one), and only had to make a handful more potions over Lvl 75 to acquire that last Recipe.

TLDR; Level Pandarian Alchemy NORMALLY, gaining Skill points all the way to 75. You'll discover almost every single Recipe with no extra effort, including Transmute: Living Steel. If you are still missing ANY recipes when you hit Zen Master, keep making any flavor potion you want until you discover them.

评论来自 xLunacyx

I managed to learn it when hitting Pandaria Alchemy 60 making elixir of mirrors until green then master mana potions to 60-75.

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转化：活化钢

转化：活化钢

3秒施法时间	1天冷却

工具:

点金石

施法材料:

延极锭 (6)

当你进行该转化时，会有几率学得其他的炼金术配方。

你所能掌握的配方数受限于你的炼金术技能点数。

这种转化每天只能使用一次。

专业技能：潘达利亚炼金
发现：其他潘达利亚炼金配方

活化钢
物品等级：30
制作材料

最大叠加: 1000

售价: 36

施法材料

	延极锭（6）
	熔炼延极锭（6）
	黑色延极矿石（12）
	白色延极矿石（12）
	转化：延极锭（6）
	幽冥铁块（60）
	熔炼幽冥铁（60）
	幽冥铁矿石（120）
	制造幽冥铁矿石（120）
	幽冥铁矿块（1080）

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n/a

类型

物理

机制

发现

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n/a

GCD目录

n/a

成本

无

范围

0码 (自身)

施法时间

3秒

冷却

1天

GCD

0秒

效果

Create Item

	活化钢

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指南

Mists of Pandaria: Alchemy Overview Mists of Pandaria: Blacksmithing Overview

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