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Commento di 336488

Considering the fight-for-your-mana policy for cataclysm, one can only expect this to be top of the list for any healer going into raiding in t11.

Perhaps to be compared to the Solace of the Fallen from wotlk which stayed equipped for lots of healers all the way through t9+t10.

Commento di skribs

For healing, I'd rate Jar of Ancient Remedies > DMC: Tsunami > Core of Ripeness > Blood of Isiset (Heroic) > Tyrande's Favorite Doll > Sea Star (Heroic). It's a steep curve in effectiveness for each of them, too. After that it's not even worth mentioning.

Jar of Ancient Remedies = 79% up-time 515 spirit buff (203 mp/5, roughly) and a use effect worth 267.5 mp/5, totalling 470.5 MP/5. That is a lot. Coming in second is DMC:Tsunami, with 200 MP/5 from spirit stacking and 321 Int. That int is 5055 maximum mana (with kings or motw), or 25 MP/5 from replenishment + 84 MP/5 equivalency over the course of a 5-minute fight, totalling to around 309 MP/5. Look at the difference between first and second. (of course you get 321 SP with DMC, but still, that's a lot of mana return).

Commento di 488353

It's full of dirt. :E

Besides, while toying with this on the Beta, that is now over, I found that you could target anyone while standing on top of them and it would restore mana to them, still affecting you with the Blind Spot debuff, so you'd want to macro it with some /target <charname> command.
Probably this bug is gone, so I'll leave this here as a random curiosity, just in case.

Yeah, i know, I could've posted this before, but I remembered about it just now. >:

Edit: Pointed out a possible consequence of the bug.

Commento di Fizzlebeard

My napkin math says that the USE is worth about 5900 mana if you take into consideration the loss of your 30seconds of Spirit. This is calculated at 4000 INT, higher INT levels will devalue the USE.

Commento di kepowcow

I must say that the gfx on this is abit over the top. Seeing that trinket animation over and over again ontop of the noise it makes, gets old really fast.

Commento di 626556

Using this trinket whenever you can ( Just not during the 'Mana tide totem phase') seems to be mana gain.

Commento di dualprocess

Will work together with ?

Commento di SnowWar

Ok so how do I mute this damn trinket :(

Commento di 229383

I use this on CD during everyfight now since i got it the mana it give back is awesome since its about 5-6% of my mana pool and rolling with core of ripeness is just ridiculous mana regen

Commento di Arcticwolf1112

Just a head's up to resto druids and possibly priests.

This trinket is.... VERY annoying, it causes your character to CONSTANTLY throw its arms up in the air.. while humorous at first it gets very annoying lol.

Commento di 756046

Got my hands on this trinket last night as a resto shaman. And have been playing around with it earlier today just for the animation (which is now getting abit annoying) But i noticed that if i cast Riptide, it does procc on the tics as it is supposed to do. But if i press "x" to sit down while my Riptide is up on a target and ticking i dont get any more stacks Inner eye. What about that?

Commento di IDrownFish

This procs off every heal, so a Circle of Healing on multiple targets will give you all five stacks instantly.

I assume this will work as well with similar spells such as Prayer of Healing, Chain Heal, and Wild Growth.

I can confirm that this does not proc off of the heals provided by Holy Word: Sanctuary, and I assume Efflorescence and Healing Rain.

Commento di 316035

With higher levels of Intellect, the Use Effect on this trinket becomes devalued compared to the passive stacking effect. Does anyone know how much intellect would be required to make not using the Use Effect advantageous?

Commento di poltrigiest

This trinket does not proc from holy nova

Commento di Jynlol

Doesn't proc from Holy Radiance. Light of Dawn will instantly give you 5 stacks if you hit 5 targets, though.

Commento di 749900

Got my hands on this lovely trinket last night.

It's brilliant how fast it reaches 5 stacks (just a simple riptide a few secs before the pull does the trick) and what I saw it had a near 100% uptime.

The use bug is slightly annoying, but the macro posted above works charmingly.

The fist-pumping and the animation get annoying fast, unfortunately.

In terms of 359 spirit trinkets, this is miles ahead of the Tol Barad one (Mandala of Stirring Patterns), giving loads more spirit and actually having an useful use effect.

Might use the Mandala for elemental tho, as it fixes the hit cap and mastery is tasty!

Commento di ErasTheSquid

Very nice trinket for restoration shamans, combining the spirit proc with Mana Tide Totem will give you an extra 2317.5 spirit. This will however change once 4.0.6, since the totem wont increase spirit buffs that last for a short amount of time. Makes it a bit less useful, but its still nice.

Also, heres a small list on what shaman healing spells that proc the spirit buff;

Healing Wave (Glyph of Healing Wave doesnt change anything)
Healing Surge
Chain Heal (Every jump procs the trinket, so its possible to get 4 stacks in one cast)
Riptide (The initial heal and the HoT procs the trinket)

Things that doesnt proc the trinket are Unleash Elements
, Healing Rain, Earthliving, Earth Shield, Healing Stream Totem, Ancestral Awakening and Cleansing Waters.

Commento di hotimer

This trinket + Tree of Life + Lifebloom spam = "I throw my hands up in the air sometimes!"(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

Commento di 769042

So does the spirit buff proc of paladins judgement? and Holy Shock damage? Would i be useable for a shockadin/exordin?

Commento di SuperBurritoz

I made a video of this, since it is basically turning me into a guido. Just be careful if you get this, the side effects are pretty bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVp7mVx2fx8

Commento di Ismat

Surprisingly, the spirit added by this trinket's proc does count for Mana Tide Totem. Just make sure not to use the trinket's on-use effect before casting Mana Tide!

This is according to someone who tested it on the PTR here.

Commento di Servasus

What I want to know is, is this trinket worth using for a paladin who recieves far more weight from intellect than spirit? Even with the use effect and the mana it returns, I'm losing quite a bit of SP, crit and mana return from judging and Divine Plea. Does anyone know the math on which trinket would be more valuable between, say, Core of Ripeness from the VP Vendor and this trinket?

Commento di Gregersen

The "problem" with this trinket is the fact that it only adds mana regen. Int will give you more max man which will give a bit more mana regen, but most importently it'll add spellpower and crit. Because int gives so much spell power, regen, and crit it is the stat you should go for, unless you really have problem with holding mana. The best trinkets to get are Thyrande's Favorite Doll (Archaeology, but it's the 2nd best trinket ingame, even counting HC) and the alchemyst stone.

Commento di kolobri90

They changed the way it procs now... your hands just pulse a Blue/Purple color instead of the old trinket animation. and oh the noise is removed. no more BANG BANG BANG while casting.

Commento di Kaeldin

It seems that adding stacks has an internal cooldown of something like 2 seconds, if I cast 2 Flash Heals (cast time 1.3 seconds) it only adds 1 stack, while a Heal (2.2 second cast) adds a stack for every heal cast

using together with Arcane Torrent and Core of Ripness it gives me around 15k mana and yet 2k spirit from the Core of Ripness

Commento di tidus93

is it viable to spam the cd as soon as I can?
or should I use it only when in oom?

Commento di 780295

The debuff you get when you use the trinket is called "Blind Spot"; this is what you should use if you are attempting to set up something like TellMeWhen (set it to trigger as soon as you get that debuff).

Commento di Ovahealz

Holy Priests rejoice!

Procs once of Circle of Healing. Tested it right now.
Also you get one proc from Prayer of Healing and don't even bother using Sanctuary if you want to proc it because it doesn't.
Every renew ticks procs the trinket. Echo of Light doesn't.

Commento di 807611

Damn it. I wanted my little gnome to stomp her foot each time. :( Oh well, better anyway. And i dont play with sound anyway, so thats cool. :)

Commento di 774232

Just wanted to share the results of a little math that I did to compare the regen to a few other trinkets. Calculations were made for my disc prist with 5276 intellect and 2340 spirit (stats with one empty trinket slot). For Tear of Blood I used an uptime percentage of 13% (based on the discussion from that item's page, I haven't tested the uptime myself).

Mana/Regen:
Tear of Blood (trinket this is replacing) gives me 189 mp5 (equivalent to 310 spirit)
Jar of Ancient Remedies gives me 498 mp5 (equivalent to 820 spirit!)
Tyrande's Favorite Doll gives me 399 mp5 (equivalent to 655 spirit)
Core of Ripeness gives me 251 mp5 (equivalent to 415 spirit)

As you can see, this trinket is amazingly good for regen, and in subjective testing I find it way more useful than the Tear of Blood that I was using before. Also, although both Core and Tyrande's Doll give you a larger starting mana pool because of the static int bonus, as long as a fight lasts one minute or greater (as do all fights that matter) this trinket gives you a larger effective mana pool because of the much higher regen.

Other thoughts:
It gets complicated when you factor in the int bonus vs the spirit bonus on each trinket so I haven't attempted to compare those directly. I was only looking at the mana regen above. Given that int is such a strong stat for all healers, Tyrande's Doll is still a better choice (and Core is a very solid option too).

Bottom line opinion:
This trinket is a great upgrade for pretty much any 346 level trinket, unless you don't have to ever think about your mana (not the case for 99.9% of healers as far as I'm aware). After having used it for a week I'm totally in love with the regen, and will probably only be replacing it once I get Tyrande's Doll.

Commento di 818616

I have this trinket on my Restoration Druid and I can tell you that it is an awesome trinket to have when fighting a raid boss, since you will get atleast three uses out of it before the fight ends.
But I would recommend switching to another trinket when running a heroic dungeon or when clearing trash mobs in a raid instance... because you're not going to get enough uses out of it to make it worth equipping over a trinket that will give you a stat bonus. (Especially an intellect bonus..)

Commento di Popo14666

This trinket's usefulness will depend massively on your standing stats and your playstyle. As it gives no passive bonus barring the stacking spirit, the choice for this trinket will depend on whether you need a sizable chunk of regen.
Speaking as a holy priest in mostly epics (albeit normal mode ones), I currently carry around Tyrande's Doll and DMC Tsunami. Raid buffed I hit just under 5.5k int and 2.6k spirit or 106k mana and just under 4k standing combat regen. With DMC alone I hit 4.5k combat regen. With Darkglow cloak and Heartsong it's almost 5k. So yeah...this trinket has dropped four times for my guild and each time I've been asked if I want it.

With regards to healing style, I cater to the old mentality of feeling personally responsible for everybody - and even then, I don't have any major mana issues. That being said, I've declined on this trinket every time. Why? Because in both cases I will lose close to 500SP and around 5k mana. And that's worth one hell of a lot more in my position than any regen boost.

So, a general note - your use of this trinket will depend entirely on you. I don't find it useful but those not in my position may think otherwise

Commento di Ipfree549

The icon for this trink looks like this: Lol

Commento di Onijitsu

For Hpallies, vs. The Darkmoon Card: Tsunami:

Tsunami has a static 321 Intellect, which helps with spellpower, overall mana, and regen via both Divine Plea and Replenishment.
Tsunami will proc off Holy Radiance, reaching max-stacks very quickly. The Jar will not proc at all off that spell.
Tsunami's stacks last 20 seconds, while the Jar's last 15 seconds. (At 3 stacks, the Jar is providing less mana than Tsunami, and it is easier for the Jar's stacks to drop, given the shorter stack life)
According to this information, Tsunami has an effective MP/5 of 368. The Jar has an effective MP/5 of 590. That information was calculated primarily for a Holy Priest, but this should give you a good idea of the relative regen value of the two trinkets.
I am still uncertain of how the Jar's overall regen changes when one activates the on-use ability for 6k+ mana, but that is still a drop in the bucket. Basically, the trinket acts like an additional potion, but takes away the sexy, stacked spirit it was providing for the next thirty seconds. Feels risky to me. I will probably only activate the on-use effect very rarely, for now, but it's possible that popping it every two minutes may actually be useful in the long run? (If you have additional information on this, I'd love to hear it!)

The Jar is basically the best "regen trinket" at the 359 iLevel for pure regen purposes, but also provides no other benefits. Except, perhaps, to our Hit raiting via Enlightened Judgements, which helps us to Judge consistently and regen mana another way. With enough Spirit, we can cut that talent down to one point and take a point elsewhere. (I have found Blessed Life to be helpful in both PvE and PvP for some free Holy Power from time to time.)

Not to entirely pick on it, however... we have been provided no Valor Point-purchasable trinkets for the newer, Firelands gear. And, Blizzard has nerfed regen for Healers once again... Spirit is conspicuously absent from much of the newest 378 gear -- even INT plate! -- while the 2-piece bonuses for all Healers' Tier-12 sets provide mana regen based upon the use of our abilities. And so, this trinket may still be particularly valuable. Especially, before we get the T12 2-piece bonus up and running. Just be aware of what you're giving up when you choose to use this trinket over others.

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Jar of Ancient Remedies

Livello dell’oggetto 359
Binds when picked up
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Richiede il livello 85
Equipaggia: Your healing spells grant Inner Eye, increasing spirit by 103 for 15 sec and stacking up to 5 times. (2s di recupero)
Usa: Grants 6420 mana, but consumes all applications of Inner Eye and prevents Inner Eye from being triggered for 30 sec. (2 Min Recupero)

Prezzo di vendita: 8 5 7

Bottino da: [Maloriak]

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