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Kommentar von Mikezila

For the rogue that thinks the "Not enough energy" errors need to shut up for a while.

Kommentar von Enigma

This skill has the ability to make anyone in pvp cry if timed well enough. Allowing for a backstab every 2 energy ticks instead of 3 (or sinister strike every tick!) this provides a massive dps burst for the 15 seconds it lasts.

Kommentar von 7785

Along with Blade Flurry this is an absolute MUST for grinding, especially if you get into trouble like I sometimes do! Hit Blade Flurry and Adrenaline Rush at the same time and spam Sinister Strike and get off 2 5-point Eviscerates before either one runs out and, even in only the mid-40sl, you'll dish out WELL over 4,000 points of damage to two NPCs at once!

Kommentar von 7798

Amazing talent to pick up, I have it on my rogue. Very useful in tense situations where you have multiple mobs or an elite where you get alot of backstabs, hemos, or sinisters strikes off very quickly.

Kommentar von 7847

Adrenaline rush is especially useful in raids, giving you that extra DPS needed on bosses. For dagger rogues, adrenaline rush gives you that extra backstabbing power, enabling you to stand behind the boss dealing a sick amount of damage!

Kommentar von GnarGnar

After the rogue talent review, opportunity got moved to a tier one Subtlety talent, making so combat dagger rogues could pick up this talent, thus allowing them to compete even more, or surpassing combat sword rogues in PvE dps.

Kommentar von SeriusJones

This is a great utility for PvP in addition to the Raid Damage. For example, this would be great on a warrior with all the extra SS/BSs you could get in. This is probably my favorite, and one of the best talents that a rogue could get.

- SJ

Kommentar von 27233

This ability can easily draw aggro on you in raids.

The trick is to wait a while into the fight, pop vanish, then go for adrenaline rush. No more aggro worries.

Kommentar von 45288

As a combat rogue, this skill is insanely good. At a 5 minute CD, if you go this far into the Combat tree and dont get this, you need to go reroll.

Say you do 100 dps. 50 from white damage (normal attacks) and 50 from Sinister Strike.
Using this skill will double your Sinister Strike output, from once every 4 seconds, to once every 2 seconds.

150 dps, 50 from white damage, 100 from Sin Strike damage. 50% increase.

Now lets say you have 2 monsters on you at one time, and you activate this with Blade Flurry.

(60 dps from white damage (+20% speed increase), 100 from Sin Strike)x2 from dual monsters, and the dual hit effect.

320 dps. You can activate Slice and Dice for additional white dps too.

This is forsaking Eviscerates, Ripostes (Most energy efficent damage rogue skill in the game, 10 energy for 150% wep damage AND a disarm), criticals, and all other rogue skills.

Also, take into consideration, as of the new 70 cap, at level 70 you can have this, all the other good combat skills, Cold Blood, AND Seal Fate.
Massive combo point generation, then a guaranteed Evis crit x2.

100 dps to 320++ dps. I hold this talent high in regard for any type of build.

Kommentar von Squirrely

Will break stealth if activated while stealthed.

Kommentar von irni

By "Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100%", it means you will generate 40 energy per tick, instead of 20, at the same intervals; you will not generate it in half-intervals. (Just to clarify)

Kommentar von Syphris

Fun Fact!

This is the only spell / item in the game with the word "Adrenaline" in it!

Kommentar von vadimtheman

Can put some good dps with this skill

Kommentar von oooguz

so with rank 3 Vitality it restores 1.1 energy every 0.1 seconds .

Adrenaline rush will give 2.2 energy per 0.1 sec ..

Kommentar von Parog

Does Adrenaline Rush stack with Vitality? If so, how?

With Vitality, you have 125% Energy per second. When you use Adrenaline Rush, does it give you 200% ( not stacking ) 225% ( 100% increase from base energy regen ) or 250% ( 100% increase from your current regen ) ?

It all depends on what the formula is, and I'm not much of a theory crafter! I'm sure other rogues would like to know. ;)

Kommentar von 248849

Something that really helps this talent out is Tricks of the Trade. If you pop TOTT followed by Adrenaline Rush, you not only have insane energy regeneration, combo point generation and extra damage, but all of the generated threat will get dumped onto the TOTT target (namely the tank, if you know your stuff). In fights where blowing most of your other cooldowns (trinket, blade flurry and in the case of trolls berserking) can lead to a silly amount of damage in a short space of time. Finish up with Killing Spree and you have a nice full energy supply to work with after the effect of AR wears off.

Kommentar von 252897

Rogue Updates from 3.1.0 notes by Eyonix (subject to change):

* Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.
* Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.
* Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste.
* Killing Spree – while this ability is active, the rogue does 20% additional damage.
* Savage Combat – now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
* Mace Specialization – this talent now grants haste in addition to armor penetration.

Kommentar von 278947

I predict the CD as of patch 3.1 will be 3.5 minutes.

Kommentar von 406424

What happens if you have Vitality www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=61329 and Overkill www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=58426 and pop this talent? Does it improve those two to give a total of 310% regen (62 energy per tick) or do they just stack for a total of 255% regen (51 energy per tick)? Hope my calculations are correct.

Kommentar von 183705

Did some more research on rogue energy modifiers today (was testing for few hours):

Results are surprising accurate (+/-0,5% EPS) simply formula is:
100% + Overkill + Vitality + Adrenaline Rush = max ~25,5 energy per second, 255%

Also i think regeneration rate is slightly higher in shorter fights, made ticket to confirm or deny that theory (short time could be more mistakes).

Kommentar von 538818

WUBUBU

Cookie to the person who gets the reference.

Kommentar von Hyperlynx

For when it just won't die fast enough.

Kommentar von 712870

now i wont have to use BF in raids

Kommentar von Bowser

In 4.3.2, Adrenaline Rush no longer triggers a global cooldown.

Kommentar von Bowser

In 4.3.2, Adrenaline Rush no longer triggers a global cooldown.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is this worth it? Or is it better to work on getting extra combo points. I'm undecided if more energy and better energy regen is more important than extra combo points. You can't use the points w/o the energy :)

Someone enlighten me :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

This skill regenerates your energy so you can add more combo points so what your saying is really pointless

Kommentar von Thottbot

Normally you get 20 energy points every 2 seconds as a rogue. With this skill you get 40 energy points every other second.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Is it worth it to take this talent or should I save it and just use ThistleTea?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well, my first thought was that energy whould tick 2 times every second instead of once every second, but that whould own too much.

And I whould take this over cold blood anytime I'm lvl40 and want to lvl up.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You can deal some sick damage with this skill as a combat rogue. SS'ing every two seconds, plus some combo point generating skills, and you can do two 5-point eviscerates over the 15 second period.

And when you all get a little bit older, you'll have a higher crit rate anyway so Cold Blood won't seem so spectacular when compared to this.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ima 60 rogue and i found that the best way to spec ur self is the following :
3/3 improved gouge
2/2 improved sinister strike
5/5 deflection ( this is great not only are you parrying most of the time youre also dodging too making somewhat GODlike..)
1/1 riposte (great for sword built rogues)
5/5 presicion
5/5 duel wield specialization(despite what you may think this REALLY makes a big difference)
1/1 blade furry
5/5 sword specialization
3/3 agression
1/1 adrenaline rush

at this piont your lvl 40 then you should invest in the subtley tree
5/5 master of deception
5/5 camouflage
(the above talents REALLY work great when pvping in ab or wsg or av)(be harder to see and still move faster!)
1/1 ghostly strike

after ghostlystrike the tree preety much reeks so i recomend putting your points in assassination
4/5 mallice (id put 5/5 but u dont have the talent points for it)

this has to be the ultimate build for a rogue who pvp's alot and does the usual raid or instance thing

believe me this is the best way to go ive spent 110 gold respeccing myself just to playtest with the talents and this way works out best (especially if youre sword spec then this is the creme de la creme)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does that build also work in PvE?

Kommentar von Thottbot

This skill has a 6min cool down.
Basically it regens your combo bar fast enough so you can spam almost constant SS's over 15 secs.

If you combine this with +20% speed increase from slice/dice or blade fury + evasion your dealing serious woop ass for 15 secs.

This skill is not about combo points - it's about how many crits from SS a mace/sword rogue can dish out in 15 sec.

Kommentar von Thottbot

i was reading some other stuff you guys have posted and i was wondering one of the guys said that he had spent 110g does it just keep going up of does it cap at a certain amount of gold?

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have mace speced my rogue and it owns what would be a good spec if you wanted to do a mace/sword combo?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Im pretty bored with my rogue now. Allways same thing over and over again. But instead of stop playing with it, im going to do some fun change on talents. Most people who use combat talents uses sword/mace. But how about using daggers. I mean, 5% extra crit, plus the adrenaline rush. Insane backstab damage for 15 seconds. Add the blade flurry on that and it's really wicked. But, i have to sacrifice alot of good points in for ex. Cold blood and Preperation. Both are really good. but like i said. Bored of the same rogue that ive allways played. Im going to work on the talents but i think i have a pretty good setup now.

Assassination
Improved Eviscerate Rank 2
Malice Rank 5
Assassination Total: 7
Combat
Improved Gouge Rank 3
Improved Sinister Strike Rank 2
Improved Backstab Rank 3
Deflection Rank 5
Precision Rank 5
Riposte Rank 1
Dagger Specialization Rank 5
Dual Wield Specialization Rank 5
Blade Flurry Rank 1
Adrenaline Rush Rank 1
Combat Total: 31
Subtlety
Master of Deception Rank 5
Opportunity Rank 5
Improved Ambush Rank 3
Subtlety Total: 13
Total
Total Points Spent: 51
Level Required: 60

So goodbye old 21-8-22 (for now).

Must add that the critical chance i have now is 31-32% with all blue gear.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The real instance rogues spec Combat. Like then they shall DpS C'thun they need it if they should do max dps. And if you pvp its still good you can max with Ss and then you kidney shot him and keep on rape him with Backstabs !

Kommentar von Thottbot

I am 20/31 with 5/5 sword spec/ blade flurry and i have to say for a rogue raiding MC/Ony/ZG this is the spec that does the most damage. I am currently in 5/8 nightslayer with dal rend's set and I consistantly outdamage the nearest rogue by 20% every single MC even though their weapons are epics (gg ripper/cht) and I am still in the lvl 58 blue set. Some of our mages are 6/8 arcanist with mageblade, hunters 5/8, warlocks 5/8 with toep and I still outdamage the nearest person by 10% over 1.3 million damage in total (damage meters syncced with about 15 people). I attribute this amazing dps to adrenaline rush. I use this cooldown religiously throughout the entire raid. Nearly every 6 minutes I bust out AR and vanish in the middle to clear aggro so I can keep going. When I get Vis'kag / Brutality Blade the only thing that will save me will be the feint handbook from aq. The only problem with this build is I am hard-pressed in group pvp. See, with a build like mine, I dont do burst damage. I am built for extended duration dps. The pvp rogues may kill me, but I outdamage the cb/prep rogues by 40-50%, the hemo rogues by 50%, the seal fate dagger rogues by 30%.

IF YOU WANT #1 DAMAGE IN AN MC RAID, GET SOME SWORDS AND SPEC 20/31

Kommentar von Thottbot

combat build does own in MC.adren rush can also own in pvp.Cheap shot-activate adren rush-2 sinister strikes-gouge-5 point kidney shot and sinister strike away for 6 seconds.nobody can survive that if you're using swords with good dmg.

Kommentar von Thottbot

adrenaline rush gains +100% energy regen for 15 ec so thats 100 bonus energy with a 6 min cooldown,i would rather have seal fate with imp backstab.in a fight u would probaly use like 2-3 backstabs and half of those would be crit so lets say 2 will crit,u gain 2 bonus combo points on every mob and 5 combos do like 800 dmg with eviscerate.u will prolly fight one mob every 2 min so there is 5 bonus combo points with seal fate.

100 bonus energy is like 2.5 sinister strikes which are far weeker than backstabs(+30% BS crit)but cost 2/3 of BS energy cost.

alltogether both 31/20 and 20/31 builds are very good and do pretty similar dmg.(personally im a mace rogue and have 20/31 but would rather have 31/20)

Kommentar von Thottbot

When I hit 40 I grabbed this cause it was the only ultimate that seemed worth it. With dual swords, offhand spec, blade flurry and this: I could crush targets. While it can work in PvP, in certain situation, this is best for PvE when you need to take out a target cause you picked up adds (and you don't want to simply vanish away cause that'll mess up what you were going after).

Combat spec in general is best for pve, you just do a butt load of damage. I have the thrash blade and I get extra strikes in addition with sword specialization. (I'd never use mace cause I dont want to give up the extra poisoned weapon). Once I was fighting a demon and I crited 3 numbers off a SS for 330+ each. With evis, I'll get a big crit of 1400-1800 or so and added on to that is a white crit of 200-400. Right now when I'm hitting targets with just a normal attack I'll get a 400-500 crit of SS then my offhand comes in and gets 200-300 plus whatever extra strikes I'm getting.

I gave up Ad rush for cold blood to try it out. I like it but then again I'm not stuck in situations with multiple targets. Before I did the spec, when fighting Drakk in UBRS I kicked on blade flurry and ad rush and his health started moving down very fast. Of course then he looked at me and I died right after but I used my 5 cp :)

Blade flurry is a great compliment to this, don't skip it. I was fighting a bug in the crater, I had him at about 20% or so and got two adds, and my health started ticking away. I got the original down. Hit blade flurry and ad rush, took the 2nd add down in a few seconds and then when I targeted the last, he was already around 20-30% just from the extra swings. The numbers that flew off of blade flurry were always around 100-150 and proced every second or so.

I love having a semi-AoE. Especially when you need to pull aggro off the priest.

In PvP I never liked using this because it isn't always easy to get my target to stop moving. So you can easily end up using it and wasting it. CB is better in these cases cause it gets used immediately. On BGs and in duels someone just either has to run up and mess up your stunlock or in a duel they hit a trinket and kite and you waste those 15 seconds.

Makes me wonder how they'll do the talents afterwards when we go up to 70 cause it would be nasty to allow ad rush with either preparation or cold blood.

And in a duel, not being a dagger rogue, I'd rather use that first 5 cp to get a CB evis, then blind them vanish CS and take the rest of their health away by just using thistle tea.

Also having a good stack of thistle tea on you, you may not even miss it. Just have to pay attention.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Combat rogue:
level 60.
Just gotta felstriker, has dalrends offhand:

From experience...
I would a) Take this ANY day over cold blood-
I can b) Take elites much better than i could when i had cold blood-
I Can: PVP Much better than i could with cold blood-
I would: Like this to have 2 energy ticks per 2 seconds instead of 40 every 2 secs..
Total energy regend while adren rush is on:
Between 280 and 320.. its kinda iffy, depending on which time in your regen of 20 per 2 secs you start this talent on...
However-, In 60 duels, on test realms: Lobotomizer and felstriker (This is b4 the new ones where u get tier 2 and a perdits) i found adren rush beat everything BUT Subtle rogues-however you can go 5 pts into MoD, and then u can beat em- however, if there is any other changes, such as a rogue w/ 2 grand marshals longswords, who is combat with the+5 stealth levels. You doomed even with a perdits... hahahaha

Kommentar von Thottbot

Should i put a talent in this one or Cold Blood?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Adrenaline Rush DOES give you insane DPS with Sinster Strike spamming... but it has a 6 minuet cool down... very limited use. I'd be to hesitatnt to use it at all. Let alone know when the most opportune moment to really use it. I prefer cold blood cause the cool down is preferably much shorter. Cold blood+Ambush= mage ownage. I use cold blood with 5 point evis along with my +15% damage (imp evis). I've gotten crits around 650 at level 39(which i'm currently at). I'm considering respeccing to combat. Combat would be great against plate and mail wearers... But I love stun lock. It's apples and oragnes.

But the next patch they are reviewing the rogues talent tree. Maybe they will make this skill taught by a trainer, like they did with Evocation for mages XD. That'd be pretty sweet.

Kommentar von Thottbot

AR owns everybody..

Cheap Shot, SS,SS,SS,Kidney Shot,SS,SS,SS,SS,SS and FINISH EM OFF.. And you also get Imp Kick,So you can silence for 2 secs for a 10 sec Cooldown..
I suggest you spec Fist spec because of 5% Crit. Better then Sword if ur gonna use SS alot..

Kommentar von Thottbot

Heres a build I came up with and tested it on the Public Test Realms. It actually owned

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html?305020005000000323350010250010023105000000000000000

-Link-

Kommentar von Thottbot

As a combat rogue, this skill is insanely good. At a 5 minute CD, if you go this far into the Combat tree and dont get this, you need to go reroll.

Say you do 100 dps. 50 from white damage (normal attacks) and 50 from Sinister Strike.
Using this skill will double your Sinister Strike output, from once every 4 seconds, to once every 2 seconds.

150 dps, 50 from white damage, 100 from Sin Strike damage. 50% increase.

Now lets say you have 2 monsters on you at one time, and you activate this with Blade Flurry.

(60 dps from white damage (+20% speed increase), 100 from Sin Strike)x2 from dual monsters, and the dual hit effect.

320 dps. You can activate Slice and Dice for additional white dps too.

This is forsaking Eviscerates, Riposte (Most energy efficent damage rogue skill in the game, 10 energy for 150% wep damage AND a disarm), criticals, and all other rogue skills, and for all of my combat loving bros out there, seeing a 2k evis crit x2 feels good. Damn good.

Also, take into consideration, as of the new 70 cap, at level 70 you can have this, all the other good combat skills, Cold Blood, AND Seal Fate.
Massive combo point generation, then a guaranteed Evis Crit !x2!

100 dps to 320++ dps. Your dps just freaking exploded.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Well, i dont have much to comment on this other than that you can easily spend 110g on respeccing if you do it multiple times...geez

Kommentar von Thottbot

31/30/0
for arena.. i dont remember if this takes u out of stealth.. havent been a fan off combat spec ever.
but i thought of using this for arena..
cheapshot backstab.. basically 4pts for that.. imp ks
u can make a backstab for every 3sec instead of 6sec with this.. though maybe 31/0/30 beats this spec but i dont know.. have anyone tried if it works well with backstab spamming.. since it crits almost every time u get lots of combo too + having cold blood

anyone? :>

Kommentar von Thottbot

pop out this baby just after a crusader / mongoose proc and a 5 point slice and dice, along with blade flurry (And evasion if needed) and you can easily stop a situation that would otherwise definately cause a wipe.

if you want to get reinvited for instances than speccing combat with a slow main hand is definately the way to go.

also (from experience trying shadow step and mutilate bulds) this ability turns a combat rogue from the worst stunlocker to the best every 5 mins, making it a great pvp talent.

i am currently a combat / sword rogue and i tend to to about 25-40% more damgage than the next party member, the majority of this comes from the multitarget masacre u create when using these cooldown abilities.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

6 Minutes, kinda long but really usefull skill. A good rogue with decent weapons can be very lethal when this skill is ready.

Edited, Wed Mar 15 13:16:51 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What is the cool down on this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

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Erhöht Eure Energieregenerationsrate um 100% und Euer Nahkampfangriffstempo um 20%. Hält 15 sec lang an.

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Apply Aura: [Mod Power Regen %] (Energie)
Wert: 100%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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Apply Aura: [Mod Melee Attack Speed]
Wert: 20
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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