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评论来自 158727

If that amount of Haste remains as delicious as it is now, this could very well be one of the best enchants ever.

评论来自 193622

err, How much % is 340 Haste in level 80?
I play Hunter, for 8second only is it good?

评论来自 Terodar

The big question from me is are these usable in arenas? Since these accelerators are very similar to the new rocket boot enchant, the older versions of which were completely removed from arenas, i find myself full of doubt, but since these few enchants would be the main reason for me keeping engineering, there is a small glimmer of hope residing somewhere in the back of my mind :S

评论来自 Larsen1337

These on an ele sham with bloodlust and the haste gear they probably have = rly damn fast lightning bolts.

评论来自 GenericNPC

What I was curious about was if these stack with other enchants? I doubt they would but I've yet to find anyone saying whether they do or not. For example, could someone have these -and- spellpower/agi/str/ap to gloves as well.

I really doubt it, but it's still a really nice addition for Engineers.

评论来自 93626

There are a few kinds of cd that can be stacked:

1) potion
2) on use dmg trinket
3) drum/grenade/tailoring net/wotlk new herb seed
4) health stone/mana gem/flame cap/nightmare seed
5) group haste buff (bl/heroism, PI)

This enchant is great if it can be stacked with all the above.

评论来自 192912

Recently the blacksmithing profession has gained the ability to add sockets to items, and its completely independant of enchantments. This means that the system itself is now able to handle multiple types of powerups, such as enchantment + sockets + socket bonus + extra colorless socket. With this being put down, it IS possible these engineering upgrades stack with enchantments. Can anyone confirm if they do or do not?

评论来自 23482

I have confirmed with multiple engineers on the latest beta build that these enchants do not stack with regular enchants.

评论来自 148036

Not as good as it seams tbh. From PVE rogue perspective 44ap enchant is better even considering that you use eng one on every CD...

评论来自 234251

Does this activate the GCD when used or is it like the "use" ability on a trinket? Only reason I'd worry about this is that the rocket launcher thing apparently does use a GCD.

评论来自 Tolki

If used every minute (yes, the tooltip is wrong):

340 Haste x 12 seconds of uptime / 60 seconds of cooldown = 68 Haste passive.
Comparing 85 constant haste to standard enchants, it seems to blow all of them out of the water:

Enchant Gloves - Crusher
Permanently enchant gloves to increase attack power by 44.

Enchant Gloves - Expertise
Permanently enchant gloves to increase expertise rating by 15.

Enchant Gloves - Precision
Permanently enchant gloves to increase hit rating by 20.

Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower
Permanently enchant gloves to increase your spell power by 28.

... and noting the lack of a haste enchant, this is a superior "enchant" for gloves for PvE and PvP alike, not even factoring in the benefit of activating it and stacking it with other buffs for compounding burst, and abusing the benefit by starting one last cast just before it wears off. If you are a haste junkie, here you go.

So, since these got buffed, these are Engineering's only pure stat boost over other professions. I don't think it lines up with the uniform stat gains of other professions, but at least it is worth having now.

评论来自 Fiyero

Doesn't trigger GCD.

评论来自 xxpanzer

Hey one question:

Can this be used in conjuction with Socket Gloves?

Im assuming not as people are talking about cancelling out norm chants?

If not gutts for me being Bs/Eng

评论来自 Hagathe

Your maths is correct, but the CD only have 112 seconds left once the buff is over. The way i see it it should be 340haste*8s/122s=~24.3haste.

Not a huge difference from what you calculated tho. Like A1win said, I too fail to see the engineering love. We got a gun and some goggles. Thats exactly the same as TBC gave us.

评论来自 261615

These are no good

the math is pretty correct these are basicly a 24 haste enchant, and even at 40 haste buff its not even better then 35 attack power of greater assault. Mainly because other enchants like agi and ap get passed on to the pet too for attack power.

No love for eng yet. gun and a helm which u can get the exact same from rep or heroics, no thank you wasting matts.

评论来自 Syzygy

As a mage, ill use it with Icy veins when i nuke, better than nothing.

评论来自 Syzygy

Buffed in 3.0.8, duration increased by 2 seconds

Engineering

* The duration of Hyperspeed Accelerators has been increased from 8 to 10 seconds.

评论来自 fairytale

'cause nobody clearly stated before:
These do not stack with other enchantments e.g. from the enchanting profession

评论来自 240978

Sigh...

This is obviously going to be something worth getting for arena, especially a mage like myself.
With 340 haste (approx 10.5%) stacked with all the other pve gear and icy veins, you will successfully be able to lower your GCD so much that a triple shatter will be very possible at max range, leaving opponents devastated. Unkickable on-command polymorphs.

This will definetly give people an edge over most, especially if you are apart of a double dps 2v2 and a 4 dps 5v5 team. This glove enchant will give alot of classes the capability to severly burst one another in arena.

And stacked with bloodlust, and other abilities, be able to do some severe damage in the PvE side of the game as well.

So before any of you think this is worthless, please, learn about other aspects of the game. I for one will be dropping tailoring to just grab this part of the profession, along with all the other fun little things you can add on-top of your gear.

评论来自 Fell

On the latest PTR build the CD for this is only 60 seconds.

评论来自 289005

These are pretty good for healers imo. I'll take a large on demand haste buff over a smaller flat increase any day, and this does not activate the GCD, so it can be macroed to other abilities.
I've been using something like this as a resto shaman

/stopcasting
/use 10
/use 13
/cast Tidal Force
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Chain Heal

Activates top trinket, the glove tinker, and instant casts the chain heal with the Tidal Force crit buff on it. Your next cast after the instant chain heal will have the buff from the haste tinker, Tidal Waves haste buff, and the crit from Tidal Force, so with any luck you can proc IWS and get part of your mana back afterwards. Fun combo.

评论来自 187014

Possibly a decent healing or caster dps enchant. There are better enchants for every physical dps class/spec however.

评论来自 Rangvald

To gain the most of this Tinker you could make a quite simple macro to activate this while using your regular attacks.

Ex.

#Showtooltip
/use
/cast Mutilate

And if you do like me in raids - Smash one button 1000000 times this should be alright :)

评论来自 danroe

Can this be used on other people's gloves?

评论来自 Zakton

To all the boomkin engineers out there, use this with an Eclipse proc to really milk your dps.

评论来自 Zankyo

does stack with another enchantment?

评论来自 231258

In case any rogues or kitties are wondering, activation of this effect does break stealth.

评论来自 Bsmx93

Hyperspeed Accelerators now stack with other enchants, duration increased to 15 seconds.

Found in 3.1.0 PTR patch Notes, confirm me if this is wrong or right :), don't like giving bad information out.

评论来自 sinned72

I finally found a set of patch notes which show the statement:

Hyperspeed Accelerators now stack with other enchants, duration increased to 15 seconds.

And they were in fact fake patch notes with all sorts of other crazy ideas (the ones that amused me the most in the fake notes were the nerfs to arcane mages and the buffs to fire mages - I am an arcanist.)

It is very unlikely Blizzard would allow a regular enchant and an engineering tinker enchant to co-exist especially since this enchant is now considered on par with other best-in-slot enchants.

评论来自 235468

I've never been good with math, and I'm trying to figure out the percentage of haste this gives at level 60, the earliest you can get this. Untalented and without any haste modifiers, a Shadowbolt takes 3.00 seconds to cast, and with this, it takes 2.44 seconds to cast. Can anyone help me figure out how much percentage this is?

评论来自 ArashikageClan

Any word if this is off the GCD now? Because the Rocket Gloves were recently taken off the GCD and was wondering if these got the same treatment?

评论来自 Mousa

From a blue post about 3.1 changes:

We took a look at some of the Engineering items and generally speaking we believe you need to be able to couple “on use” items with your own abilities, otherwise they have to be better than your normal abilities to ever be worth the GCD which is a direction we didn't want to go. So to keep players from stacking a whole bunch of them at once, we implemented a shared cooldown for them so you can use one of these burst items at a time, not several at once, while mixing them with your abilities for the best impact.

评论来自 357637

As of 3.1 these now trigger a 10 second cooldown on your trinkets and vice versa, your trinket will put a cooldown on your accelerators... Aimed at limiting burst damage in PvP.

I had to redo a macro because I had it linked with a spell and a trinket.

评论来自 253385

Why do people keep doing really dodgy math for figuring out dps increases for time sensitive proc's?

+ 340 haste for 10 seconds does not for comparative perposes provide +57 haste, especially when you have to consider how it will stack with other haste sources.

Consider the following and very basic example

Assumption 1: The spell takes 2 seconds to cast and does 100 damges
Assumption 2: 100 casts
Assumption 3: It procs at the start of every minute
Assumpiton 4: 1% haste = 32.79 haste rating points
Assumption 5: Assume it proc's at the start of each minute
Assumtpion 6: Assume that has begun to cast while time is available recieves full benifit

Base DPS = 50 one hundred damage divided by two second cast time = 50

IF it provided a passive +57 haste (1.74%)
New casts time: 1.9652
Total Cast time: 196.52
Total Damage = 100 * 100 = 10,000
DPS = 10,000 / 196.52 = 50.88

IF it functions as intended (+340 haste = 10.37%)
Proc Cast time = 1.7926
*I have used excel to do this, but here are the details*
23 spells recived benifit of increased haste over the 100 casts.
Total cast time: 195.23
Total Damage = 100 * 100 = 10,000
DPS = 10,000 / 195.23 = 51.22

Now this is a very simple example. As such it does require it actually proc, assumes a linear spell rotation, no interuptions, compounded effects from other haste sources.. etc, but you get the idea.

The key part about all ot WotLK proc system is that they provide a short term massive burst of damage in some way, for our example the base DPS is 50, in pure burst proc for the 10 seconds it jumps to 55.78

Excel & proper mathematics are your friend.

评论来自 48676

If you are like me and tend to forget to use the item every time it comes off cooldown try this useful macro I made for myself on my warlock:

#showtooltip Incinerate
/run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","0")
/use 10
/run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","1")
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/cast Incinerate

You may need to replace "Incinerate" with whatever spammable damage (or healing) spell you use most frequently.
Line 1 just sets the correct tooltip / icon for the macro, otherwise your glove's icon will show in your action bar.
Line 2 turns the error sound off (otherwise you get a "Can't use that item yet" message every time you press the hotkey)
Line 3 uses whatever item is equipped in your glove slot.
Line 4 turns the sound back on (so you still get "Out of Range", etc. messages when you cast your spell).
Line 5 clears any error that may have occured while using your glove slot, i.e. no visual error message if still on cooldown.
Line 6 casts your spell, in my case Incinerate.

Enjoy.

评论来自 177048

This enchant has gone under a lot of changes and tweeks patch to patch but as it stands now here is all the pertinent info you need to know:

1) It counts as an enchant, so NO it, like ALL engineering tinkers, do NOT stack with enchantments.
2) BS sockets are not considered enchantments so you can have this and an extra socket.
3) It is a USE that when activated is 340 haste over 12 seconds; it has a ONE (1) minute cooldown.
4) It is OFF the traditional GCD, so it does NOT reset your swing timer.
5) It IS on the PvP burst GCD (or whatever it's called) for 10 sec so you can't chain this with stuff like this (which is more of a big deal with something like this, but they are put on the same PvP GCD, but I digress).
6) For SOME classes, like rogues, this enchantment can be BiS. Using a macro such as:
#showtooltip Sinister Strike
/use 10
/cast Sinister Strike
or if you are a troll
#showtooltip Sinister Strike
/use 10
/cast Beserking
/cast Sinister Strike
should keep this (and your racial) up as much as possible.

Edit: spelling, update

评论来自 366219

Just wondering if these tinkers stack with enchants and would the belt tinkers stack with eternal belt buckles?

评论来自 174047

44.2% haste for my shaman at 60...

edit: as of 3.2 or maybe earlier grand master engineering requires lvl 65...

评论来自 Kaitain

For anyone using an addon to track the haste buff this gives, the buff is called:

Hyperspeed Acceleration

评论来自 306212

Are these still usable in arena? I ask only since nitro boots were removed in the latest patch, so... ?

评论来自 387769

What about the 5 second cast time? Do you really have to stand there doing nothing for 5 seconds before you can act?

评论来自 Lilyi

This is the spell triggered by the Hyperspeed Accelerators enchant: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=54758

评论来自 VerasGunn

WoWHead's profiler seems to love this enchant, so much so that it can easily make any hand item a legendary quality apparently.

评论来自 Shigekazu

This lasts 12 seconds 3.2, 10 seconds 3.1

评论来自 111007

Moonkins looking at the math on this one for lunar eclipse, assuming you're saving this for every other eclipse proc, it works out almost perfectly to be an extra eclipsed-starfire (going from 6 to7 casts), which should be an average damage of 10-11k with raid buffs. You're looking at gaining about 150-200 DPS from this enchant/profession over straight spellpower.

Pretty good competitor for https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=55637, which only pulls ahead with really good RNG on the proc.

评论来自 Sounder

Haste is a decent stat for ferals since our white damage is usually boosted 30% by Savage Roar. Agi and Str are still better, but the LW perk, for example, only gives AP. So with the 3.2 buffs Engineering is finally a reasonable DPS option for us.

Right now I'm pondering whether to tie Hyperspeed Accelerators to Mangle/Shred, for max uptime, or to Savage Roar, to guarantee that I won't be squandering the buff on un-SR'ed white attacks.

评论来自 92960

Sooo... has anyone compared this to the Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket, DPS wise for a melee per say rogue? which would prove better? or at what base melee dps would this out perform the rocket?

评论来自 107930

My standard heal is FoL, with an occasional shock thrown in. But when things hit the fan and I need to throw down a massive heal on the tank, I bust out the HL. In that clutch moment, that first HL (.5 seconds slower than the ones that follow it due to the talent Light's Grace) landing on the main tank in time can prevent a wipe. I have HL macro'd to use the accelerators, a haste-on-use trinket (currently https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=38258, but would love to upgrade to https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=36972), and divine favor, and so that first HL is a super-fast HL crit. No question it has saved a wipe more than once, and no question that's far more useful to me than a contant slight increase to my heals via the spellpower enchant.

First off this isn't the holy pally thread so save it for that. second I don't play a pally so correct me if I am wrong, shouldn't you be using HL as your main spell rather than FoL? maybe you just plan on spending all your time in heroics?

评论来自 170648

can you enchant other people´s gloves though they don't have engineering profession?

评论来自 137154

is this enchant better than 44 AP on a Bm hunter ?

评论来自 rsabin

Anyone know what is the name of the buff gained with this skill? Link?

评论来自 Gahouf

This enchant is way more potential than any other enchants for Gloves, since
A. 68 overall haste > any other stats you can have enchanted on your gloves,
B. If used well, it may cool down during a phase when you can not attack anything (or the main boss) increasing your effective haste out of it, and
C. if used in conjunction with other trinket uses/procs, or other major cooldowns, you will get more potential out of it.

评论来自 trialtm

As a Marksman hunter im using this enchant over the 20 agility to gloves. Femaledwarf.com states 44AP<20Agi<Hyperspeed Accelerators for my class/spec. I macro'd this into every single shot i use in my rotation except serpent sting along with kill command and silencing shot. It works great. Like posted above, if making a macro the command to use it is /use 10.

评论来自 451327

Hi

Does this stack with a Priests Power Infusion?

https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=10060

Cheers

Ceo

评论来自 matornot

The 340 haste is "on par" with other profession bonuses, but has the benefit of being triggered by the player, thus allowing it to be used during +100% damage phases of bosses and stuff, which can make it much more beneficial than other profession bonuses.
Now here's the clincher.... never have i ever heard or read about, or seen in-game, someone with the engineering/tailor profession combo. For those of you who aren't familiar with the tailoring bonus, they're cloak enchants that grant a stat bonus (depends which you choose) for 15 sec, with an internal cooldown of what? ONE MINUTE! This means that every time your cloak embroidery procs, you can pop your hyperspeed accelerators, thus maximizing both profession bonuses.
As a warlock, I get 295 Spellpower when Lightweave Embroidery procs, and 340 haste when i pop my hyperspeeds. During 15 sec uptime, 295 SP is about 470 DPS, and 340 haste rating is about 375 DPS. Added together, it equals 845 DPS, but since the 340 haste rating is about 10% haste, it essentially means that i get an extra 10% out of the 295 spellpower, increasing the lightweave DPS to 517, making the new total 892 DPS for 15 sec, or 223 DPS averaged out over the minute that they're on CD. Considering that the sum of these profession bonuses, were they to happen at different times, is about 210 DPS, it means that the DPS difference is a negligible 13 DPS, but the potential burst damage is monstrous.

评论来自 Omduel

Has anyone done any looking into what one does more over all DPS, between these and the Hand-mounted Pyro-Rockets for gloves by eng? I never know what one to put on for dpsing, i guessed it would come down to if haste is better for your spec or pure fire damage from a range, but i was hoping some other eng can help me.

Oh and a side note, Much love to any other Engeneers out there, we get some very cool stuff, but getting out 450th point is such a pain, i went Eng/Insc and love every min of it tbh. Also thinking of droping Insc for BS though.

评论来自 matornot

A hunter in my guild uses the pyro-rockets instead of these. He told me they're better for hunters than the haste but i dunno, i'm just a haste-crazed warlock.

评论来自 549030

anyone has thought of using backdraft https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=47260#comments:id=992443
with this?

评论来自 gaudaloht

As fury is a big deal macro that gloves and deathwish and enjoy toping meters
Also for arms you have the awesome ultra speed spam executes

评论来自 295309

since I'm playing a warrior: 40 str for alchemists

How? I can understand the the 40 ArP (or even Str) for Blacksmithing, but how would one obtain 40 Str as an Alchemist?

My only thought that brings me to this conclusion would be the Flask of the North. However, seeing as you are directing your post towards a PVE-centric play-purpose, that still negates the use of this flask, since even this combination of elixirs would be better use--not to mention the greater-yet-flask-of-choice for any Warrior hoping to maximize his dps.

评论来自 290890

This is nice for rogues and DOES stack with Slice and Dice...essentially making your attack speed 50% quicker.

评论来自 Pomodorosan

Here, I made this chart which includes ALL the professions, concerning spell power:

Alch: +47 SP (Mixology gives an extra 47 SP on Flask of the Frost Wyrm.)
BS: +46 SP (Two extra sockets, both with +23 SP.)
Ench: +46 SP (+23 SP to rings.)
Eng: +45 Haste, -1 SP (+27 SP replaces +23 Haste on cloak, +68 passive haste replaces +28 SP.)
Herb: Heal over Time (Heals for 3600, affected by maximum health.)
Inscription: +46 SP (+70 SP, +15 Crit, instead of +24 SP, +15 Crit.)
JC: +48 SP (Three +39 SP in place of three +23 SP.)
LW: +46 SP (+76 SP instead of +30 SP.)
Mining: +60 Stam (Toughness.)
Skinning: +40 Crit (Master of Anatomy.)
Tailor: -23 Haste, +50-60 SP (Roughly +50-60 passive SP replaces +23 Haste.)

评论来自 ShirouChan

If u activate this enchant with a SH priest then throw a SW:P on a boss and from then on u just refresh the SW:P with mind flay will the haste benefit stay on SW:P even after expiring just like activated crit bonuses do, or will it's tick sloww down after the 12 seconds expire?

评论来自 theconfessor

Shadow word: Pain DOES NOT GAIN ANY BENEFIT FROM HASTE.

评论来自 242170

But you all do know that Pyro Rockets are the greater dps boost - pve and pvp?

评论来自 602342

for all the hunters out there thinking of taking engineering for this, i played with the spreadsheet on femaledwarf.com and it showed that, at my gear level (mostly 264, a few 251) and with all the best buffs/debuffs at least, swapping from skinning (40 crit) and replacing my 20 agi enchant would be a dps loss of roughly 28, and switching to the hand rockets would cost another 21. imo, the difference is small enough that, if you've got the gold and the inclination, you should go for it.

评论来自 Hiddenswine

Hey all! Just a quick question. I have a mage engineer with this glove tinker. I noticed that if I use these I can't use Icy Veins for the duration of the buff. I was wondering if I enchanted my weapon with black magic would they cause a similar effect? In other words if black magic procced would it start a cooldown for the hyperspeed accelerators and vice versa? Any help would be most appreciated! Thanks!

评论来自 Cromulon

As of 4.0.1 tinker modifications no longer count as an enchant.

For example you can now have and on your gloves!

评论来自 175684

as of 4.0.1 stacks with other hand enchants, such as 士兵

评论来自 708130

Currently in Cataclysm there is no haste tinker, instead it was changed to Synapse Springs. That leaves physical dps with Tazik Shocker which, needless to say, is of marginal benefit in pve. Maybe we'll get our updated haste tinker when Blizzard sees people using Hyperspeed Accelerators at 85.

评论来自 mrgummage

Since Cataclysm all Engineering item enhancements now stack with regular enchants, making them far more viable for PvE... add these to gloves and macro to a normally used attack and you got yourself some extra DPS!

Another interesting titbit, this is the actual "item" used for the effect: Hyperspeed Accelerator

评论来自 153083

I recently picked up enchant weapon - hurricane and i noticed that it creates and reacts to a hidden cooldown from the similar buff of Hyperspeed Accelerators.

Is this cooldown time from the accelerators and hurricane enchant causing a reduction in the potential damage per second boost normally provided by enchant weapon - hurricane?

been goin crazy trying to find a reference to this hidden internal cooldown between the two.

评论来自 Dianora

This is still the engineering enchant of choice for non-caster. Of course, melee can go ahead and attach the healing pot to hand and go with traditional enchant. But that makes me sad in a way.

评论来自 346502

I'm surprised nobody has posted yet that it now does stack with enchants.

评论来自 771190

Although the tooltip doesn't say so, this tinker does in fact bind the gloves. In case you were planning evil plans. Or hoping evil hopes.

Can't wait for the BOA gloves in WOW 5.0!

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超级加速器

超级加速器
5秒施法时间

工具:

弧光扳手

施法材料:

萨隆邪铁锭 (6), 空气结晶 (4)

永久性地为一双手套附加超级加速器，资深的工程学技师可以通过启动加速器获得急速等级提高240的效果，持续12 sec。手套每分钟只能启动一次。

施法材料

	萨隆邪铁锭（6）
	熔炼萨隆邪铁（6）
	萨隆邪铁矿石（12）
	空气结晶（4）
	空气结晶（1）

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GCD目录

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成本

无

范围

0码 (自身)

施法时间

5秒

冷却

n/a

GCD

0秒

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Enchant Item：超级加速器（3604）
PVP 倍率：1

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