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kreghx
Level: Boss
Location: Blackrock Spire
Type: Beast
Background
-------------------------
The Beast is a boss found in Upper Blackrock Spire. It appears to be a Core Hound that has been captured by the forces of Nefarian for use in his breeding experiments. (Experiments on other core hounds could account for the creation of Chromaggus, a core hound-like dragonkin who is the second-to-last boss found in Blackwing Lair.)
At some point before he is encountered by a party, the Beast has swallowed Finkle Einhorn, a gnomish adventurer who has survived in the Beast's stomach for an unspecified period of time. Skinning the Beast will free Finkle.
Strategies
---------------------
Essentially, a tank will need to keep aggro on The Beast at all times as he hits extremely hard and can kill a cloth wearer in 2 or 3 hits, the rest of the raid will want to DPS him. As long as the Main Tank can keep aggro (don't count on this, he fears and random charges a lot. Better to say the main tankS) and you have sufficient healing, this fight should be a simple one. He may drop , which increases skinning by 10, so anyone in the group with a skinning skill of 300 should roll on this if they dont have it already, otherwise it can be greeded. It is vital someone can skin the beast as they can recieve the and also reveal Finkle Einhorn, who is the start of a quest chain.
评论来自
9443
TIP: The room where the Beast is in is seperated by a Barracade of Burning wood. If you Clear the entire room before "The Beast's" room You will be able to use this room as a place of refuge if your Party dies. If you run past the Barracade you will lose aggro, and if everyone else is dead he should return to his corner and reset.
Also be aware that one of his attacks he often uses will send anyone in range flying upwards a good distance. Not only will the fall hurt, The Beast will more than likely turn from the main tank and attack another party member. Also watch out for his Fear, If you have a Dwarf healer you are in luck due to the fact The Beast's Fear doesn't affect them.
WARNING: Many groups often make careless mistakes when fighting the beast. If you do not clear the room before the Beast's room always remember that there are MOBS right around the corner from where you are fighting, and you might be feared or thrown out into the next room where all of the MOBS are waiting. So make sure you fight the beast in the middle of the room to make sure this doesn't happen.
-Other than all of that ^^^ This fight is fairly easy and there should be very little problem whilst fighting him.
*This is the room your group's Hunter or whoever is elected to "Kite" the last boss in UBRS "Drakk" will run to*
评论来自
waggler
which lvl he have?
评论来自
42924
Here is something creepy...The Shadowforge key (
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=11000
)has inscribed on it the letters F.F.F.Replacing the letters with numbers,A=1,B=2,C=3,D=4,E=5,F=6.So F.F.F is actually 666,The Number of The Beast(a little useless but fun :P)
评论来自
zdravko
I solved the beast as a lvl 70 paly with my friend lvl 70 warrior so bring two 70 lvl friends from ur guild here and enjoy! :D
评论来自
69345
ive noticed that if ur a hunter and u have track beasts on u can see this guy on ur map in Lower black rock spire
评论来自
VooktaVelen
have experienced a bug twice in a row now which really is annoying. In upper spire upon killing the Beast the roll loot appears on the screen how ever The Beast himself cannot be skinned. Why is that? I opened a ticket and GM told me only reason he could not be skinned was because there was loot inside the Beast that was not removed.
Problem is nobody in the 10 man raid group was able to loot it.
GM sent my ticket to a character specialist to have issue looked at.
Has anyone else received this problem?
Strange enough upon exiting the instance, the raid group was completely abandoned and a new party of 4 was created for lower spire, during our run of lower spire all quests could not be completed, no kills counted towards quest boss kills. All 4 of us were players from the upper raid that was previously done.
1 mate contacted a GM and they informed that we were all stuck in raid even tho the raid was gone and a new party had be formed.
Again anyone else experiencing this bug? This was very annoying since we did a full clear of lower spire with only 4 players.
1 good thing came from the lower run how ever, all 3 gems from all 3 bosses did drop for the key quest :)
评论来自
83140
Notice the name of the man freed from the beast...FINKLE EINHORN from Ace Ventura pet detective.....not that good of a movie but i was forced to watch it so now i know.
And the whole 666 thing was pretty clever dude. but not correct. shadowforgeif for BRD and in NO-relation to the door(s) in Lbrs or Ubrs
评论来自
139657
Its number is six hundred and sixty six.
评论来自
140103
Easily 2 manned with a BM hunter + Healer combo.
Just get some random to help summon the first UBRS boss and easily 2 mannable all the way, use a Bat or Carrion Bird's Screech to hold aggro off the healer and you can easily farm him.
Pets dont suffer from all the knockbacks so they hold aggro very easily, keep Mend Pet just incase the healer gets charged and your pet wont go below 70% on this fight. Farmed 3 Ace of Beasts so far this week with a guild healer, he gets all drops to DE and we split 50/50 might not be the best for earning gold, but alot of priests and druids after the Darkmoon card! Can easily sell the card for 200g.
Have a bank alt sat with 200g on it at anytime just for buying out low priced Darkmoon cards, made a few Beast Decks decks from Aces not selling, the whole Beast Deck sells for up to 800g easily(depending on server greatly!)
Easy gold for an easy run.
评论来自
83605
Sandlot reference to the big dog called "The Beast" which stayed behind the ballpark fence, and depicted as a very large canine-ish thing, just like this guy :)
评论来自
135595
Not tamable by hunters.
Edit: as of patch 3.0.2 he's now tameable
评论来自
wraithslayer
You can, however, use the Gnomish Shrink Ray on him. Assuming it doesn't misfire, it's pretty funny to see the Beast get shrunk down.
评论来自
Ruuuuuubje
when a numeric level is required for some calculation
so onlyn when that number is needed then itll be calculated like its a lvl +3 mob (so crit and avoid can be calculated right for exaple) Beside of that its just a "dynamic level". wich means its always enouth lvls above you to be shown as a skull
tried alr with my hunter to use "Beast Lore" on him and its says: "not tameable"
but ofc always try to think outside the box, otherwise nothing would change in this world :P
评论来自
Reunilana
I can comfirm that beast is TAMEABLE
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firebalt3wc3.jpg
All you need to do is to get a tank to get aggro from a mob then you need to shout him at the left wall at the fence because he wont knockback you there.
评论来自
231986
confirmed...just like the above post...except i've used Aspect of the monkey at all times...Scorpid Sting to pull it...Deterrence when ever i have it...then tame...took me like 30 tries tho...i think it's just luck
评论来自
74939
Actually you CAN tame a boss. King Dred, in Drak'tharon Keep. The devilsaur. But that guy is not ? level.
Since The Beast and Maghamar are ? level, you can not tame them.
EDIT: I dunno whats so wrong with this comment that it got downrated
referencing information not yet in a live version of the game is likely the reason your post was downrated.
评论来自
156207
Soloed as a 80 rogue in noobish green/blues
评论来自
267194
Will a lv 60 hunter be able to tame The Beast, and if so will it go to the same lv as the level 60 hunter?
评论来自
267194
not sure if the tame beast ability will break if a tank is holding it to the north west corner with his back against the wall and not attack
评论来自
256123
I just solo'd this guy today on my 80 Holy Paladin. The only real problem was his knockback, as the fall took down about 1/4 of my total health. Luckily his other attacks only hit me for about 300 so I just healed up. One glitch I noticed is that, if he charges and fears, you will simply run around through the air, slowly glitching your way down. When I landed i did not take any fall damage, much to my surprise. All in all it was an easy fight, and he dropped my
Lightforge Spaulders
first try. =D
评论来自
303979
is he immune to traps like the other ones in MC or can he be trap? it would make life so easy if he can be traped
评论来自
Wartem
Soloed this boss with my lvl 70 demon warlock. I used my voidwalker to make it safe but I guess the felguard would have worked too, if not better (faster anyway). I stood against the wall making his knockbacks alot less painful as I didn’t flew up in the air. This was about as far I got in UBRS, General Drakkisath was away too hard.
评论来自
357803
the core hounds in MC have the same model and are a lot easier to tame than this guy
评论来自
311118
This guy is BEAST man! BEAST!
评论来自
239222
"The Beast still lurks..."
评论来自
cervantes
Tamed him a couple of days ago, as a level 78+ you can skip all the mobs (duh) except for the Arena fight thing. Did it myself with some haste food + elixir, but it only was "fast" enough when I consumed some speed potions. No Bloodlust, so it took like 1 hour worth of tries.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have or anything special on its name! Don't bother if you were planning on taming him for this. Not sure if he was supposed to or was changed recently or I simply misread the comments. Check the screen shot btw.
评论来自
452869
Just tamed him today with friends there for backup. yes, definitely pull him into a corner. Yes, be prepared for several attempts since he fears, throws a hissy fit, and just is a pain about keeping the channel up. Yes, having heroism and haste pots would have been a big help but we got it done without. and YES! he does keep the (Boss) on his tooltip when you hover your mouse over him!
All in all this was a great, challenging, satisfying tame!
评论来自
Parknight
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/erroneouz/WoWScrnShot_092309_183415.jpg
Lol. autoshoot on you action bar as an 80?
评论来自
kberends1979
"The Beast" is most definitely tameable, and even solo-tame-able.
My recommendations for taming this Boss are stand with your back to the haystack in the northwest corner of the room,
pull the boss with Scorpid Sting, stack as much haste rating on your gear as possible
to minimize taming time, and if at all possible glug a Potion of Speed for the extra 500 Haste rating. I spent a good four hours attempting to tame it,
until I tagged the boss with Scorpid Sting prior to the tame
. At level 80 that 3% reduced hit chance, makes most of "The Beast"s attacks miss you if you keep aspect of the monkey or aspect of the Dragonhawk up (provided you spent the point in aspect mastery for it). I can also confirm that
"The Beast"
does NOT retain the ? where it's level was
, as of patch 3.3 "The Beast" retains ? where it's level would normally be listed and has a Skull rather than it's level on it's unitframe. It also retains (Boss) where you'd normally see (Elite)
. Also when you use Bestial Wrath, sometimes the graphic does glitch out and you end up with a gianormous Core Hound. I've often had other players complain about this to me. Hope the tips help.
I've submitted a screenshot of it recently with the 3.3 patch after it's tamed so other hunters may see what it looks like post taming.
Hkrannak of Smolderthorn
评论来自
fraeg
I just tried this and kept getting "Creature not tameable" messages whenever I tried to tame it.
评论来自
487034
Easy to solo as a lvl 80.
If you don't want to take as much fall damage, tank him far back in the dark lair he starts off in. You hit the top of that, so you aren't falling as far as if you were out in the open.
评论来自
489170
Hey did you guys not notice that this guys demonic but not original model is just a slightly tweaked version of this guy
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/npc=15467
评论来自
kberends1979
Very true, the hunter taming must maintain full aggro during the entire tame. The Beast IS solo tameable but ridiculously difficult to do so. If you plan to bring heals etc, I'd also recommend another hunter/rogue to misdirect or tricks of the trade you before having the priest fear ward & heal you to tame this, in order to maintain aggro.
As I've stated before, if you plan to solo tame this, be level 80, grab a bunch of haste potions, keep your back to the west side of the northwest wall corner,
pull him with scorpid sting to reduce hit chance to hit you
, slam your haste potion, pop rapid fire (because the haste DOES affect taming time) and start taming. Traps are worthless because he cannot be slowed or CC'd. If you're group taming him however, I'd recommend a fire trap to get some extra aggro, but not the snake trap because the snakes will (taunt) and take your aggro. As stated he can't be slowed or frozen so your ice traps are worthless during this tame too.
If he knocks you back or fears you, just feign and repeat the process once you've healed up and your potion & rapid fire cooldowns are up. It takes some patience but you just have to really wait until you get lucky enough to tame him faster than he fears or knocks back. Ideally you want at least 300 - 400 haste rating before potions or rapid fire. Also if you're going to solo this you'll want at least 20K health because he hits for 4 - 6k a pop unmitigated while taming since you have 0 armor during a tame.
Wowhead still hasn't taken my "post tame" screenshots. As of patch 3.3 he retains ? where his level is on his tooltip, and (Boss) and maintains a skull instead of a level on his unitframe icon, even though as of patch 3.3 Elite mobs no longer do.
评论来自
kberends1979
Blackrock Caverns is something I'm certain we can count on in Cataclysm.....
评论来自
Veph
I tamed this guy over the weekend, and while it was incredibly difficult, eventually I succeeded.
Most of the tips are already mentioned here, and there's some great advice on this page.
I did want to mention that one of the biggest factors in my success was a
Paladin
friend who cast
and
on himself. This mitigated 30% of the damage I was taking and I'm pretty sure it's the only way I survived.
So for anyone who's planning on trying this guy, don't give up! It takes a few times usually but it's definitely doable.
评论来自
536306
After reading all the posts on how to tame this guy, I came up with my own strategy, with the help of a shaman.
I should mention that I had 16k health, so you can do it with less than 20k, but I would guess that anything less than 14k would cause you problems.
Also make sure not to use any very high dps melee weapons, or weapons with procs.
First have the shaman use Earth Shield on you, activate Aspect Of The Viper, then run in, pull The Beast, and run to the corner with the pile of straw, backing into it as far as possible (if you are as far back as possible he won't fear, only knockback). Have the shaman plop a healing totem down nearby, and start auto-attacking The Beast when he is in range, after a few seconds activate Rapid Fire and start taming. It will probably fail due to the knockback, but the Earth Shield and totem will have stopped you from being killed, so try again. If you run out of mana, auto-attack for a few seconds to build up enough through AotV to activate Tame Beast again. Auto-attacking has the added bonus of causing a fair amount of threat, enough to keep The Beast off the healer, while doing very little damage.
Essentially, keep doing this. The healer should never run out of mana due to not having to use any very often, and you should only run out for a few seconds due to AotV. You should be able to repeat taming many times within a few minutes without dying or having to Feign Death. However, this is a waiting game, although once I had worked out this way of taming, I didn't die again, and had him tamed within 10 minutes.
Most important of all, don't give up or become disheartened. Twice he knocked me with only one second of taming left, but I got him in the end. :)
Additionally, for those who tamed Garwal while he was available, this is very similar, as like the Garwal tame, it takes a while and is based on pure luck ;D
评论来自
553921
This most be the most pet in wow ;D it can stun and fear enemies
评论来自
jdotjdot
I guess if you tame him as a pet he just digests finkle
评论来自
567085
Believe it or not, but he dropped "Ace of the Beasts" for me, which seemed to be pretty stylish!
评论来自
563264
got him few minutes ago, used: engi hands haste enchant, speed potion, rapid fire, 350 haste from gear, dodge trinket from brewfest(bank ftw), stam trinket from brewfest(again, that one for more tries), ended up with around 30k hp, that gives 3 shots per aggro with scorpid sting, deterrence, fire up macro and tame just 0,5sec after to make sure haste buffs are present...result: 15,1sec tame channeling (i had over nine thousand haste with those buffs, anyway, dont think its possible to lower it below 14,5-15 with more haste on gear and haste trinket), tried for few hours when doing stuff at home, eventually i got it and i'm soo proud of myself ;D
评论来自
575077
Easy Solo Tame.....dont let his size and abilities fool you.
Blizzard made it possible to easily tame this hound, do you think that stack of hay in the corner is there for the hound to munch on? not hardly, get in that corner with ur back agaisnt the wall, it prevents the fear from being cast....and.....he cannot knock you backwards. All thats left is you staying alive long enough to tame him....or....being knocked off the tame by the hound.
I was lvl 78 when I tamed him, respec to gain max health, potions of speed, wore junk gear with haste bonuses, haste trinkets, etc.
I think my haste bonuses were around 1000 at the time of taming.
Only two major things to consider.....get as much health as you can and boost your haste as much as you can. I had my tame time down to around 13 seconds, try it on any other creatures until you get it below 15.
Took me four attempts....solo.
Feign death if he knocks you off the tame, let him go back into his den, try again. Health and Haste is all you need. Do not let him kill you, feign as soon as he knocks you off the tame.
Oh, btw...hit him with the scorpid sting to pull him out from his den.
Then strut around town with a lvl? boss pet.
The hardest part of this tame was like anything else.....figuring out how to do it. One you know how, the taming is a piece of cake.....dont forget that while taming your armor goes to 0, so dont concern yourself with anything other than health and haste. My health was around 16k, my haste around 1000. Flask of Stoneblood +1300 health ws used also.
评论来自
577272
Im curious ... would this be hard to five man? I've done it with a group of five below lvl 60
评论来自
Darkensed
What kind of meat I must have for feed The Beast? Please Tell me! :D
评论来自
dreadblood
I dont think these ppl have tamed this mob, as he is lvl ? (mobs have to be ur lvl or under to tame) I think they just tamed a core hound...
评论来自
awbemauler
CAN BE 5 MANED PATCH 3.3.0
just beat this guy with:
59 pally tank
57 Druid healer(me)
60 mage
59 Warlock
58 Rogue
not the easiest, wiped first time
What we did:
warlock soul stone rez the healer(incase you die)
tank bring to west wall so he cant push u back
use lots of regen healing spells on everyone
then just hope u got good dps to kill it since hes 80k hp.
**Edit the other boss we could not beat beacuse we had no hunter to kite the elites around, we died when he feared the tank, we tryed killing the 2 elites first but they just spawn when we die.**
评论来自
561934
Enough with the "confirmed tameable" or "I tamed him" stories.
x.x
Nowhere seems to tell me what kind of damage he does per hit, and I need to know this.
I plan to solo him on my Lv74 Paladin for the Lightforge shoulders.
If he hits too hard I'll solo him as prot, but if its a Light hitter for someone with 11k HP then I'll solo him as ret.
I dont plan to spend 15 minutes fighting him as prot but if thats the only way cus of his damage...
Cursed RP realms... You become obsessed with good looking armor >_>
评论来自
Knorislief
you he lose his elite as you tam him
评论来自
Zell216
Just got this badboy today and will real quick share my experience with taming him. I took the advice above to tame him in the corner by the hay bale. I didn't get knocked back or feared once which may have been luck, but went into the whole ordeal with 318 Haste rating + rapid fire + potion of speed + hyperspeed accelerators the engineering tinker to gloves
This brought my haste to 1158 + Rapid fire and it tamed VERY quickly, very painlessly. Between scorpid sting and aspect of the dragonhawk (with aspect mastery) I was only at 13/19k HP when I got him. Not particularly as hard as people make it seem but I suspect my hyperspeed accelerators had something to do with it.
评论来自
johnmully
I finally solo tamed "The Beast"! (about a month ago). No it wasn't easy either. I failed on a couple occasions thinking i was cocky since I solo tamed the elite Uvuros at lvl71. I am lvl80 and even at a gs of 5100 i failed 10times! I had all the haste gear you can get and still I failed. Well folks here is the smartest thing to do as a bm hunter. I searched the ah for lvl 80 gear with stam haste but mainly sockets. I managed to find 9 pieces 8 of which have sockets and gemmed with haste($$) I also have 2 trinkets with haste shard of the crystal heart an bought a battlemaster trink with honor pts. base haste=739 fully buffed with scroll of fortitude, both potions, potion of spd, elixir of lightning spd and food haste=1751! My tame was down to 10-12sec! The process is simple but it will take several tries. This equipped and it still took me 9 times! I filled up with crocs gorillas and rhinos 5 pets each time. Stand in corner by hay so you can't get a knockback, send in pet with misdirection shot scorpid sting, beastial wrath so you can't be feared for 20sec, abandon pet, hit trink an potion of spd and tame. Macro'd is easier! Wash rinse repeat and Pray! you can get like maybe 3 trys in then you health will be low so feign death and try again. He is by far the coolest pet in game period! The skull in his icon and the "Level ? Boss" is just B.A. Can't wait to get my authenticator. Blizz should add howl talent to all ferocity pets and tweak Bm's to equal mm in dps(my2cents). I added pick of my hunter Roobyroo on Vek!
评论来自
45431
Here is how I solo-tamed The Beast.
Level 71 - There's plenty of Northrend quest gear, be it cloth, leather, mail, or caster jewelry with good haste rating + stamina. It doesn't matter what kind you get because tame beast drops your armor to zero, making it all the same. I had just over 10000 health and 5% damage reduction from
Aspect Mastery
using Aspect of the Monkey. Each attack hit me for 1100 while his other abilities(fire) were resisted and/or absorbed. Also level 71 gives you alot actual haste per haste rating. With this set up, my tame beast was at 11.62 seconds (1124 Haste Rating, 72.14% Haste).
Here is what I used:
Mok'Nathal Beast-Mask
(
Solid Chalcedony
x3,
Borean Armor Kit
)
Ritual Neckguard
Ethical Epaulettes
(
Borean Armor Kit
)
Crackling Cloak
(
Enchant Cloak - Speed
)
Shamblehide Chestguard
(
Solid Chalcedony
x3,
Borean Armor Kit
)
shirt, no tabard
Bracers of the Forest Stalker
(
Perfect Solid Chalcedony
,
Enchant Bracer - Assault
- )
Spiked Magmoth Gloves
(
Enchant Gloves - Minor Haste
)
Marshwalker Waistguard
Azurehunter Legguards
(
Borean Armor Kit
)
Treads of the Charred Canyon
(
Borean Armor Kit
)
Scouts Signet Ring
Circlet of the Forgotten Mercenary
Foresight's Anticipation
Talisman of the Tundra
Featherweight Claymore
(
Iron Counterweight
)
Compact Arrow Launcher
Elixir of Lightning Speed
Elixir of Mighty Fortitude
Very Burnt Worg
Potion of Speed
Greater Fire Protection Potion
Greater Fire Protection Potion last 2 mins, so before you engage The Beast, pop one of these and hold on for the minute cooldown. This will give you extra protection without hindering your Potion of speed. My Greater Fire Protection Potion didn't break until after the tame, from an Immolate DoT.
I've read many places that standing back by the hay is important, so I did. I pulled The Beast with Scorpid Sting and then, making sure he was within the 30 yard range of Tame Beast, hit this macro twice:
#show
/tar The
/cast Bestial Wrath
/cast Deterrence
/use Foresight's Anticipation
/use Potion of Speed
/run PetAbandon()
/cast Tame Beast
Bestial Wrath gives you 10 seconds of uninterrupted channeling and Deterrence blocks attacks for 6 seconds. Your active pet will be abandoned immediately after casting Bestial Wrath. The game doesn't register that your throw-away pet has been abandoned right away, requiring the second click to start the taming.
I was able to tame The Beast on my second try. (I used a practice macro by mistake the first time, getting myself killed.)
With even more planning, a larger budget, and a haste buff from a friend, you could probably drop that channel time on tame beast even lower.
As of this post, The Beast maintains his "Level ? (Boss)" tag, even after being leveled. You can see his actual level while he is stabled.
In case anyone missed it in other posts, Rapid Fire does not affect tame beast channeling time.
评论来自
themguyman
i just have one question about taming this mob. assuming i have the beast mastery talent can i tame him as soon as i can get to him or do i have to w8 till 80
评论来自
eternalwhitemoon
As of this writing, he will still keep the Skull icon and ? Boss tag when tamed. (It's SWEET.)
I am very happy I went through THE SHEER PAIN of taming this guy. Seriously, this was probably my most frustrating and annoying tame to date. I had a holy pally with me, trying to heal indirectly via Divine Sacrifice and Hand of Sacrifice so as not to get aggro. He had Sacred Shield on me and I was backed into the hay to avoid the fear. However...
Even if the charge effect is completely absorbed (in this case by Sacred Shield) and you take no damage, the cast still gets interrupted. I have not found a really *good* way to counter this, just by sheer luck. Haste pots will only get you so far, as if he happens to charge once, then your haste pot just got wasted more or less and unless you feign and reset him, you can't use another. :) Fun huh?
I found that trying to recast Tame Beast after his charges was quite draining on my mana. Even at a 5.9K GS, he will still hurt you pretty badly (might help that Taming makes him ignore armor) so don't think you can just outgear this tame.
Using Scorpid Sting did not seem to reduce the amount of times he charged either, although that could just be bad RNG on my part. He did occasionally chain several charges together, which was extra bothersome.
So basically, good timing, good luck and many feigns. Don't give up, you'll get him eventually. :D
评论来自
539353
2-manned as a 60 prot pally with a 60 disc priest, with very good gear for our level. I was sitting at just over 16k hp with pw:f, priest had about 4.5k with 7k mana pool.
I never went below 10k hp despite the constant fear spams and charges, except for once when his knockback threw me to the ceiling.
Strongly suggest bringing a healer for anyone trying to do this <75.
评论来自
Urgronak
Just helped my friend tame The Beast tonight. I was on my prot paladin with a minuscule amount of mana (about 5500) and she had about 18000 HP with very little haste (about 250) I hid in The Beast's cave and she stood in the hay once he was done juggling her. I put Sacred Shield on her, used Concentration Aura, and stepped out after his fireballs to toss a heal or two. We managed to tame him after 4 tries and we tamed him IMMEDIATELY after using the positioning I described. Other things she used: Potion of Speed and Rapid Fire. Good luck out there, I know when I get my hunter to 80, I'll tame him this way
评论来自
Lasengnomad
Just solo tamed as an 80 hunter. Using the tips from above (the macro, the throw-away pet), I also loaded up on haste gear -- fortunately I still had my Valorous tier pieces in the bank, and I used 3 of those for the haste. With this, plus the Imperial Manta, plus the speed pot, I waited till after the fireball cast then hit the macro twice.
Hopefully, The Beats still retains that Boss Lvl title after patch 4....
评论来自
678245
This guy is sooooooo easy to tame now as of patch 4.0.1. Tame beast only takes ten seconds now. You probably don't even need to be 80 to solo tame it now. Oh yea it still keeps the boss skull lvl :)
评论来自
464352
I solo tamed him tonight (after patch release) and can confirm he does still have his boss tag. Now that tame beast is 10 seconds base cast, taming the Beast couldn't be easier :) Just stand behind the hay as everyone has said and you win!
I was amused by my chat log upon taming:
"Unknown has reached !"
评论来自
Mackeyser
Just tamed him on Lazuliz on Gnomeregan, lvl 80 hunter in blues/low purples mix. Wife was along on her healer, but it was a solo heal because he kept pulling off of me to fireball her and I died the first attempt.
Second attempt, I went behind the infamous haystack with my back to the wall and went at it. He interrupted my tame twice, but I decided rather than feign, I'd just stick it out and got him with about 4k health left.
The one thing that I can see making it harder than before is the lack of Aspect of the Monkey or Dragonhawk so no additional avoidance. As well, no more scorpid sting. You can't even send a pet in to debuff The Beast and then dismiss it (not that the debuff would last long enough, but still).
Basically, it's "up against the wall" and hope he loves you.
What I'm a little unclear on is the level. Is the pet always 3 levels above the hunter? Does that mean we never have to level this pet? If so, he becomes a FANTASTIC ferocity pet as he also comes with ancient hysteria (slightly reduced heroism/bloodlust/time warp).
Anyway, with 20 stable slots, I'd recommend every hunter try and nab him!
评论来自
Rikaku
What I'm a little unclear on is the level. Is the pet always 3 levels above the hunter? Does that mean we never have to level this pet? If so, he becomes a FANTASTIC ferocity pet as he also comes with ancient hysteria (slightly reduced heroism/bloodlust/time warp).
No, you still have to level him. He is still a pet who is lvl 77 (if you tame him at 80). If you put him in the stables, he reads his proper level (i.e. 77). The only thing different is that the game actually identifies your core hound as "The Beast" in name alone, which is why his tag says "Boss" "?" and "Level -1" when you have him out.
评论来自
682353
Interesting thing about this guy when ya tame him. Once he hits "lvl 80" he has 21 talent points vs 20.
评论来自
228860
I just solo-tamed him yesterday.
I guess I got lucky - I had no problems getting him. At level 80 in mainly Badge/Justice Point gear I soloed through UBRS, got to The Beast and started taming him as soon he walked out of his hole in the corner.
By time he got to me I was already 50% done the taming. He hit me pretty hard, but never broke my taming. I dropped to about 70% health during the process. That was it.
No healer with me, no buffs prior to entering UBRS - I just walked in, killed everything I saw up to The Beast and tamed him.
He does a fear and a knockback normally - but for some reason he never used them against me (or I resisted it somehow) during the taming process.
Much cooler than the Core Hounds in MC IMO - especially with the Boss symbol for his level icon.
You can only see his experience bar - not his true level. But once you tame him, he can be levelled up 3 levels to your current level.
I would definately tame this guy. The Green Core Hounds and the White one are nice - but they don't come with a Skull Icon!
评论来自
358541
I tried to tame him months ago with no luck. I used haste potions and rapid fire. I spent about an hour trying to do it when I finally gave up. I just tamed him last night! It only took me a couple of tries because tame beast is now 10 seconds and not 20seconds to cast. I think everyone should be able to do it now.
评论来自
Anathelia
Something I thought I'd point out: It's the Scorpid Sting that makes things easier, not having Aspect of the Monkey up. You can't dodge while casting a spell.
评论来自
WatcherCCG
Just bagged this guy last night. Having a Paladin use Hand of Protection on you helps a LOT. It's five seconds of time where Beast can waste his knockback or fear spell and also do no damage. With HoP and heirlooms a 70 hunter can tame this guy.
评论来自
384171
Tamed this guy on my hunter today solo. Not very geared with very little haste gear.
Popped the ilvl 245 haste trinket, rapid fire, and a potion of speed. Managed to get a 7 second cast. Got him my first attempt.
评论来自
valkiirifire
Tamed this guy two days ago on my level 76 hunter. Wasn't an easy tame but after a few tries, lots of heals and buffs from guildies I got him. Wow! Just going through Stormwind I get questions about the ? boss status and "is that a glitch?" Proud to say it's not. Doesn't end the hunt for Loque'nahak but it did give me something else to think about for a little while....
评论来自
mazhop
I'm not sure why people are saying it's hard to tame. I was able to tame on my first attempt while standing on the haystack and using a pot of speed. Sure alittle luck is needed. :P
评论来自
303818
Amazing looking pet. The "?"/"<skull>" draws remarks all the time too - its worth the hassle of taming it for this reason alone!
However, in practice, probably like all Core Hounds, you are not likely to want to use it in non-pvp situations for possibly multiple reasons:
1) Its ranged Exotic ability, if kept on autocast, means that unless enemies are being always tanked by someone else, melee mobs (by far the largest type in the game) will come to you rather than your pet going to them. This can produce several problems not least because as a hunter you will always feel exponentially uncomfortable the closer a target gets to you.
2) It's somewhat noisy (combat + footfall noise). Even though you do get used to it, others may not be. Having it throughout a raid would probably annoy a few people, even if they do not speak up/complain to you.
3) For reasons unknown Core Hounds, presumably due to their Exotic ability (untested) have *huge*/much higher threat than other pets, even compared to other Ferocity pets. While this is great in a solo setting (i.e. this is very useful in solo questing), with the big nerf to tank aoe threat in dungeons since patch 4.0, this can sometimes mean the healer may end up healing your pet more often than they heal the actual tank! And the tank may be spending much of his time trying to claw back threat instead of worrying about new threats or the many other things tanks have to worry about. This can actually put the healer or others at risk because of the distraction to the tank.
4) It leaves a fire trail behind it on movement from its back. I think it looks great, but again could be distracting/annoying for group situations.
Basically, it makes a great town, situational pvp and reasonable solo pet (as long as your mindful of the reduced range), but noticeably less so for groups without taking into account its buff. Unfortunately, only Core Hounds provide the Ancient Hysteria/Bloodlust/Heroism super buff - so, if your (raid) group in Cata is missing a shaman or mage but have a hunter, then you WILL be taking a Core Hound no matter how annoying they may sometimes seem to some. In non-raid dungeons, use whatever Ferocity pet you want. Though I suggest keeping in mind the above points.
评论来自
88783
Just tamed him today in 4.0.3. At the moment he no longer has any skull, or boss tag.
评论来自
597970
No longer keeps the ? (Boss) tag after taming as of patch 4.0.3. Also, anyone who tamed before the patch is still out of luck... now it's just a regular old boring Core Hound.
Way to ruin our fun Blizzard!
评论来自
703580
As of 4.03. this pet no longer retains its ? level and (Boss) on its nameplate.
Blizzard kicks us in the groin, yet again.
评论来自
337077
I tamed him the day before patch 4.0.3 went live. He had the Boss tag. Now it's gone.
评论来自
sietelle
as of 4.0.3 he won't keep the ? level tag. It will show level 77 when you tame him if you are level 80 (or whatever 3 levels below yours is). Not too exciting anymore :\ easy in terms of not needing to be in a raid group to get to him (as opposed to the core hounds in molten core), but not as fast as just jumping into MC for the same color model.
评论来自
xCaptRedbeard
No point in taming this big guy if you wanted the unique (Boss) tag... :( Kinda sucks, just logged in and noticed he's level 80 now.
Guess i'll be going after Chromaggus. /sigh
评论来自
Deathbang
No longer keeps boss tag. Just tamed him, level 77.
评论来自
303818
I cried when I called my lovely boss pet out to see it no longer had a boss symbol! It is definitely post patch 4.0.3 or 4.0.3a.
After all that work getting it too...Blizzard what were you thinking?
评论来自
Hemingray
It seems The Beast has a mate,
Beauty
, one of the bosses of Blackrock Caverns (Beauty and The Beast, get it? Cute.) They also have four little core hound pups:
Lucky
,
Spot
,
Buster
, and
Runty
(a reference to 101 Dalmatians). I felt so incredibly guilty killing them!
评论来自
725842
What level does this guy requires to be tamed? I can't tame it at 61. Target is too high level. As i know, he's level 60 and i don't get it...
评论来自
40287
Quite easy to tame - just keep your back to the wall. For some odd reason my Beast doesn't make the stomping noise of some core hounds - just a loud fiery crackle.
评论来自
leief027
solo tamed today at level 69 took me 4 tries and had to hide behind the haystack but i got him XD
评论来自
465531
After realising he was a BM tame, decided to just run back to instance entrance to hand in quests - and The Beast followed me all the way, tiny doors, everything. He simply runs through walls. Every few corners, I would look behind me - there he was.
评论来自
guatafu
This is the only core hound that does not make stomping noises while walking, if you want a red one with stomping noises tame one from molten core.
评论来自
406368
Confirming that post-Cataclysm the special ? Boss Elite glitch hasn't returned, and displays his level as up to three levels lower than yours when you tamed him (patch 4.1 makes tamed beasts the same level as yourself...). He is still a huge pet, and not difficult at all anymore at the level 80 mark, and could probably be tamed at 75 with a decently geared -OR- nicely skilled BM Hunter with 15k hps++ (check out the vids on YouTube with a Hunter who only had 12.5k hps going in).
NOTE: It is a VERY GOOD idea to either be geared towards lots of Haste or take foods/elixirs to add a bunch of Haste if you are <80 and attempting to tame him before dying. He still does a wicked Knockback that will disrupt your Tame if it doesn't finish quickly enough, and can seriously damage you if you don't put your back up against a wall (I'd suggest near the burning blockade at the entry to his den so if he hits you too hard you can run through the blockade and drop agro). Just be sure you aren't exactly at the entry if he fears you and the mobs sitting there hadn't been cleared in the previous room.
评论来自
Virginia
I solo tamed him at lv 72 with no problems.. just tame him right after he tosses you in the air.
评论来自
RealSlowLoris
Hunters! Tip! If you're trying to solo this to go get him. If you're 69 like I was. I took a 60 warrior friend with me and (it helped none) he punts you in the air. This can get frustrating because he does it with perfect timing just before you finishing taming him.
My tip.. walk up let him punt you the first time and walk to the back wall. Put your back against the wall wait for his next punt. Start spam clicking the tame button as you get up so you do it as quick as possible. Depending on your health, right before he punts you again you should be able to tame him at the exact second. I died right after he finished being tamed. It was close.
I named him Nacho Salsa. Nacho for one head Salsa for the other. he looks hot and salsy. :3
Tame difficutly : pretty tough
评论来自
348807
Lol, I love this, no one ever tells you exactly how and where to go or how to actually GET to the beast...."upper blackrock spire" does NOT tell anyone how to get there. this forum thread is about the Beast and no one ever explains how to actually get to him...can someone tell me how i can find the beast inside brc i've never done this dungeon and it's level after level yer always on a diff lvl. i need to watch a video but there again, no one even when they make a damned video, they nevert show you how to get to the beast....lolo from the entrance to getting into the room he is supposedly in, idk i thinks it's so stupid ...no one EVER tells you HOW to get to ANY particular boss, they just say it's inside the dungeon lol...oh ell, geee thnx, there's only 400 sq miles down here. fuk it, i give up on taming this corehound lol...i can't even get a party to help me lol fukit too pathetic i give up.
评论来自
830242
Well for starters, you should be a bit nicer.
But its a fairly linear dungeon.
Go to Blackrock Mountian, go inside and look for a summoning stone...go into the hall on the right. Keep going right and up till you find an entrance. Once inside, you ahve to ways right and left...your going left...follow the dungeon and the easy 60 bosses. When you reach a rather large room. There he is...tame away.
评论来自
Siirenias
Has anyone else noticed that this critter sounds like no other corehound?
评论来自
andape
He was Beauty's in Blackrock Carvens Mate. Beauty joined forces with the Twilight Hammer to revenge the Beast and kill who slayed him Within the blackrock spire
评论来自
Kallor97
I think these posts on strategy are just wierd. I am a lvl 72 hunter and i solo'd this guy. Never died once. I just cast tame beast, he knocked me back once, then i casted again. Simple as that. Idk if it helps, but i had brutal gear on but i never coordinated haste ratings or hp boosts. Maybe i got lucky, but his shots didnt even bring me down half health, with my whopping 11k (yes 11,000, not like 50k). Maybe a recent patch weakened him or something. Either way, very easy to solo tame. I'm off to get Uvuros!
评论来自
912857
I soloed this dungeon at lvl 69, and did NOT get all the abilities listed here, I only obtained one. So, from my point of view, this pet is worthless.
评论来自
787695
Kind of ironic how a wall of bonfires is used as a fence for a
core hound
.
评论来自
xzbbzx
Solo tamed him at level 71 without any major problems... Let him punt you in the air once, then use Tame Beast and that should be it.
评论来自
kberends1979
Since a few people have asked, or posted their frustrations in reaching The Beast here is some hopefully simple instructions on how to get to "The Beast".
First of all upon entering Blackrock Spire, the Eastern half is dedicated to "Lower Blackrock Spire", while the Western half, is dedicated to "Upper Blackrock Spire". "The Beast" is located in the "Upper Blackrock Spire".
From the entrance you will need to go into the main room, and take your the doorway up the ramp to the left. You will be in an atrium with several alcoves full of monsters that must all die in order to 'trigger' the door at the back of the area to open. After going through that door, around a corner and up a ramp you'll see several orcs binding a fire elemental, and a pillar that can be activated. Activate it, kill the orcs & then the Fire Elemental boss. From there you will proceed into another room where you can kill multiple adds, before jumping into the arena pit for the Arena event. The rooms that lead up to the Beast
After killing the multiple waves of Whelps & engaging & killing Warchief Rend Blackhand & Gyrr (spelling?) the door to the arena pit will open again, allowing access to the adjacent rooms & upper areas leading to General Drakkisith (spelling?). There will be several orc & dragonkin npc trash mobs on the way there, including a few Orc Rogue npcs, in a room with what appears to be a 'grey stone' floor. This room has 3 exits, the one you initially enter it from, one to your immediate right, and one to your far left, that is barricaded off with bloodied wooden pikes and corpses leading into a VERY dark room. Jump over the barricade, and "The Beast" is located at the very back alcove of that dark room.
For hunters attempting to tame him it's easiest to do so with your back to a wall as he has a knockback ability that can easily throw you 30 - 40 yards including fall damage. He also has an AoE fear, and even at level 85 hits for about 6 - 7k a hit since you have no armor value while taming. I would recommend haste potions, a haste elixir, & popping both rapid fire & deterrence prior to your tame attempt. If you should fail due to being feared or punted before the tame completes, just feign death, wait for ALL of your potion cooldowns & rapid fire cooldowns to be up, and attempt it again. Slowing & snaring traps will not work on The Beast, and snake traps will actually break your taming as they will taunt him, stealing your aggro.
For characters attempting to kill him at level, he can easily be 5 manned by a level 55 - 60 group, all mobs in the room adjacent to him should definitely be killed, including all stealthed rogue npcs to avoid a fear bomb that could potentially cause a wipe. I would recommend the tank, pulling him to one of the walls or corners of the room and tanking him with the tanks back to the wall to avoid the punt.
Priest Healers would be wise to fear ward themselves prior to the fight & refresh it on themselves during the fight if need be. Shaman healers would be wise to save Tremor totem until he fears & drop it immediately. Druids would be wise to toss out any additional heal over time spells, even at the risk of overhealing during the fight as they really have no way of mitigating the fear short of using a pvp trinket.
Paladin healers & tanks in general would be wise to save their CC immunity cooldowns, enrage effects or otherwise until the fear goes off, so as not to lose aggro.
评论来自
julez
and
比斯巨兽
评论来自
990510
I've seen some hunters want a core hound like this so if your one of those this is how to get one (Should be at least 75 as far as I know to solo and live) go to the upper Blackrock spire (should be to left, then you're suppose to kill all mobs in mini chambers) then the door opens then just go in and you should quickly see the first boss, "The beast" is the third boss.
评论来自
Thottbot
Make these loot deals beforehand and then decide if you want to join the raid or not.
In my humble opinion, I say the skinner has the right to skin everything on the way and keep the skins and leather.
BUT.
A very rare item like this should be available for all that are going to USE it. Need before greed.
Skinners argue that they got to 300 skinning, got Finkle's skinner and perhaps +5 skinning on their armor, but c'mon guys, do Rogues keep everything in the chests they unlock? Not with me, they unlock it and then we roll for the items inside.
I say, you as a skinner "unlock" the body of "The Beast" and let the ones that can use it roll on it. It's loot, nothing more and nothing less.
Of course, if you can make a deal with your group that this item is YOURS when it drops, more power to you.
Note: I am 300 skinning.
Skinners that claim this thing are selfish pricks, that's all.
"But I did my best getting that skinner!" - And you solo'd getting that skinner?
"Well I am the only one that has it!" - You would not be able to kill the Beast solo, either.
"But I spent a lotta time on it!" - Guess what? Those helping you get the skinner and the beast spent a lot of time too.
"But those were different people!" - Even worse, a LOT of people helped you getting the skinner and to the beast, for all their efforts you claim this skin?
Etc. etc. etc.
评论来自
Thottbot
I've read everybody's post and opinions about this
and now it's my turn to give me opinion.
Getting the Skinning Dagger is a hard thing to do
and on average it will take someone who is trying to
get it at least 20 runs to be successful on average.
Now getting a pristine hide is going to take another
20 runs or so on average.
You think if I mine an arcanite crystal while in an
instance,I'm going to give it up for rolls, I'm a
nice guy and that's possible, but not likely. I
definitly don't think I'm obligated too. The only
way I would put the pristine hide up for rolls would be.
1) all guild run
2) I don't need it
3) my 60 alt don't need it
4) someone else who I know could really use it
and always helps with instances, then I would give
it to him, but a random roll would never happen.
The chance of some noob to UBRS, who this may be
their first time there and first time seeing the
beast go down, should have a chance at it, "I don't
think so"...
It's not random loot, it's something that is 1000G
in the AH, and would make a great epic piece for most
classes. I, as a guild master would say, if the member
wanted to be nice and give it to the guild, then
I would make whoever could use it and wanted it, earn
it by participation, helping others, trade in other
stuff or whatever for it.
A chest being unlocked by a rogue is alot different my friend
I believe he is obligated by being in the guild (Period)
to open any locked chest or door. Does not mean
he has the right to it's contents, that's common
sense man.
Locking Picking is not a primary profession nor
a secondary. Rogue should unlock & everybody rolls.
If a rogue tried to charge me for unlocking any
boxes from my guild, he would be warned then kicked.
But enchants are different, even though they are
guild members, don't mean it's free, if it's small
no big deal, but if it's crusader or something similar
that takes 50G+ worth of mats, you better
help gather the mats my friend.
评论来自
Thottbot
There are many different points of view on who should get the Pristine Hide when it drops, and who is to say who is right and who is wrong. Just get the loot rules spelled out in the beginning and if you don't agree, don't go one the raid. Ask the skinner what he expects if the hide drops. Simple as that.
评论来自
Thottbot
Hypothetically speaking, if I was to skin this guy and get the hide I would only allow those who NEEDed it to roll on it. All you people who want easy gold from someone elses work can shut up and go farm plaguelands or silithus. It would be like if a blacksmith made an arcanite reaper and everybody rolled on it then complained that the blacksmith didnt pay up.
In my opinion, skinning the hide and dissing a blue for a shard is very different. There are lots of blues to diss, there is only one beast to skin. If you don't like it, ditch your proff and pick up skinning.
评论来自
Thottbot
First of all, surprisingly, whole discussion is very civilized on this topic, which i assume more grown up players are interested in this discussion. :)
I am a skinner, without the +10 dagger (yet) and looking for getting it. For a guild run, obviously guild comes first and the decision should be made within. For a PuG, I think skinner must have some privelage if the hide drops. This may be anyhow, maybe chance to roll on it twice (all pass then reroll or MasterLoot)(or roll 120 instead of 100, hehe) or be paid. And the rolling must be if there is someone around that need this for quest. If everyone needs this for greed, i think only the skinner has the r,ght to get the loot. (Surely all 310 skinners rolled beforehand)
I dont think comparing profession is meaningful here, since all have different ups & downs and the hide we are talking about is an epic. I can pay the lockpicker if he wants (yet i'll try to find a one that doesnt want a payment)
The best solution seems talking things before the raid is up, or even when recruiting. Sometimes people seems that they forgot this is a "game" that we all play for fun.
Cheers, hope you all get the items you need andforget about the greed (>'.')>...<('.'<)
评论来自
Thottbot
im an enchanter, and for most bop's dropped in instances people ask for a disenchant. should i keep the shards? or should i get two rolls because i'm an enchanter? this should be treated like any other pick up, need before greed, but not skinners dibs. each class has a role in a group. and in some cases each profession has a role in a "group". by your logic if a rogue were able to help a group access an area or dungeon, that rogue should get all of the loot the group wins. i think that skinners can leech enough extra loot off a group by skinning the mobs killed by all. ("please make sure you loot the bodies so i can skin, and also please wait for me because i'm going to stay here and skin"). but this is a quest item, and playing one role of many in attaining it does not make you alpha dog here.
评论来自
Thottbot
"if you cant even get the item by yourself in the first place... this is similiar to a level 1 complaining to a level 60 about how he killed a rare spawn and got an epic, and the level 1 wants a roll at it.... YOU CANT EVEN KILL THE RARE SPAWN "
do you see how you completely contradicted yourself and destroyed your argument? read what you wrote and think long and hard about it.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm a blacksmith, My Boyfriend is and Herbalist, And I would think the skinner should get he same respect, In Mara, no one has ever said a thing about my BF getting the mushrooms.... In BRD, No one has ever said a thing about me getting Dark Iron up the .... you know....
Well I think the Skinner or skinners should be allowed the same, I've worked Very hard for my Mining, Grinding it up little by little, and I would really be ticked If I go to BRD and Get 4 Dark Iron ore off of a Mine, and the group says, Hey, We Need to roll for those, they are worth cash, or the gems that come from them, "Because I can use them" If i can Gather the item on my own, I'm not giving them up to have to Pay for them on the AH,
I think that the Skinners should Roll, to see who will Skin The thing, and let it go at that...
Just like with the groups i've been in, We roll on the mines if there are several Miners there...
Every Profession has its money makers, so Why is everyone so insistant on taking the Skinners away?
..
And Yes, I'm greedy enough to _Want_ to roll on the Skin, But I didn't get my skill in Skinning, so It shouldn't be mine to roll on
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, so there appears to be some issue as to whether this item should be rolled upon or not. I feel like chipping in my 2 cents to this discussion too.
Firstly, the skinner in question needed to farm his way up to level 300 skinning in the first place. Then he needed to spend a few gold on getting the +5 enchant. Then he needs to do UBRS about 15 times to get the Finkle's Skinner. Then he needs to do it about 80 times to see the hide drop. Then, after all this work you think that the other people in the group should have the right to roll on it? No chance! The skinner did the work, the skinner gets the reward. Sure, if there are other people with Finkle's Skinner in the group then they have every right to roll on it, but the others don't! Do you think that it's right for them to put in all of this effort just to see some random PuG member walk out with a few hundred gold worth of stuff that the hunter worked his ass off for? No. It's a skinner's item, and the skinner does what he wants with it. If you want this item without putting in as much effort as the skinner, then go buy it at the AH. Anyone who tries to make me let everyone roll for it in my group will have a nasty surprise waiting for him. Only those with Finkles Skinner should be allowed to roll for it, not the whiners who want to get it without putting any effort in.
Edited for my occasionally poor spelling
评论来自
Thottbot
I am a LW/315skinner. I believe that the pristine hide is the reward of choosing a low-yield gathering profession. I personally could not use the hide, but I know that I would never allow those in the raid to roll on it. The pristine hide would be my reward for going to UBRS long after I have needed anything there. I consider it a rare profit from an otherwise almost useless profession. Guilds do not allow a skinner to keep Scales of Onyxia, or Core Leather because they are items that benefit the guild, despite being very valuable. I could give a flying rat's ass about some PUG UBRS group. If you want the hide, skin it yourself. However, should there be another skinner in the raid, I will always roll with him/her after a skinnable boss to ensure fairness among fellow members of my gathering profession. I have no doubt that others in my raid would be angry with me, but I am sure that I would not be blacklisted, 'ninja-hooded,' or /gkicked for taking what I rightfully won. The majority of the people who disagree with me do not skin and therefore, in my mind, have zero say over what I do with my earnings.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok so you think you get to roll on my skin? why?
its a gathering proffetion right. so only those with said profession should have rights on it since they too could have also skined that same hide from the beast. so if i was in a group and another person and myself both had skinning and the skinner then only 2 people would be alowed to roll why becuase its are profession not yours so go F yourself..... or you two can drop your current profession farm to 300 skill get the knife and try and get a hide. and secondly who cares if you have the quest? a Quest is you doing something trying hard or going out of your way to get somthing done for yourself or somone else so drop your profession get skinning and then we'll talk
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped first time i killed beast on my pally! Unfortunately we sat there for 15 mins because the leader wasn't convinced i would use it, though i would sell it. Finally gave me the card, now just waiting for the fair to come to town.
评论来自
Thottbot
Simple resolution...
PREDETERMINE STUFF LIKE THIS BEFORE THE RUN!
As for who has the
right
to roll on the Pristine Hide (or any other epic drop for that matter), that has always been a matter of contention...
Only argument I have found reasonably satisfactory is the old WoW adage..."Need before greed: Definition: Need is defined as a drop that can be used (and is usually immediately learnt/equipped/whatevr) to further professions, gear appropriately to class/spec or complete a current quest (or continue in it (such as Frayed Abomination Stitching)..
Need DOES NOT constitute arguments like the following.."I need the Pristine Hide of the Beast so I can sell it and make the money I need for my epic mount/random epic weapon AH buying etc..."
Go away - we don't want your type on our servers...
As for skinners and chanters and stuff...the product of their tradeskill is just that..the product of their tradeskill..
All of you rogues out there..how much would you make on an average day, even just in tips, for opening lockboxes? 20g...50g....100g? I don't know myself, but I would envision from the amount I have spent in my playing time on locked boxes, you guys'd make a fair living (on top of being a damn useful soloing class)...
As stated earlier by someone (apologies for not remembering your name :S ), leather sells for precisely squat (unless it is knothide or something from BC), and the chance of a pristine hide dropping from a skin is pretty remote.
If such an item drops as a result of a tradeskill, the Need before greed loot rules apply..forget the fact it is epic for a moment (which the greedy buggers can't fathom) and consider the fact that;
A)
It
IS
a quest item.
B)
It is gained from a high sklill in a profession.
c)
High skills in a profession take a long time to attain.
Having said that, while it is perfectly reasonable for the skinner to claim the phat loot for him/herself, if there are people on the quest requiring this skin, then they should have the opportunity to roll for it..
Everyone who claims otherwise is letting the $ signs blind them..
Go farm outlands if ya need cash..and don't ask leatherworkers for gear if ya can't let them do their jobs without moaning...
On another note regarding the Finkle's Skinner drop from The Beast...Next time I lose the roll to it (need, mind you) to a damn miner/blacksmith Pally tool, I'ma scream...
That is just not cricket...
评论来自
Thottbot
ok, i know im not gonna change anyones minds but think of it this way. you're in BRD with 2 miners. you come up to a dark iron ore mine, who rolls for it? the miners, if a crystals in it, who gets it? the miner. you're in brd again with 2 chanters and a BoE green drops, everyone rolls a chanter wins. he DEs it and some how gets a shard. who gets the shard? the chanter, he lvl'd his skill, did the stuff he needed and earned the shard. you're in mara with 2 herbers, you come to the ghost mushrooms they roll 1 wins, he gets them. now listen here, all the people who won stuff solo'd the vein/DE/erbing, but did not solo the instance. they still got their loot over everyone else because they earned it fair and square. now think of this, you're in ubrs with 2 skinners, and both have finkles. they both roll one wins skins the beast and the hide drops. who gets it? the guy who skinned it of course. i mean so what if its like a 0% drop rate. he won it when he had a high enough skill to get it, and beat everyone else with the same skill. and in order to get the hide you have to have finkles, or some other dagger/chant that would get you to 310 skinning (pre-bc). now did the skinner solo the beast? no. did he lvl his skill, get the extra gear, then the quest, then run it enough times to get the hide to drop? yes. does he get the hide over anyone else in the group regardless? yes. why? because its the way it works. i mean yes the hide was worth tons of gold pre-bc, and was a super rare epic, but it did require a specific proffesion and specific gear, and stons of farming to get, BUT its also a quest item ABOVE ALL ELSE. its used for nothing other then for a quest. and in order to skin the beast you will have finkles, and when you get finkles you get the quest. so if you skin the beast and get the hide its YOUR quest item, not the groups quest item.
-Plagueheart
70 Warlock (390 skinning)
-Postagestamp (300 skinning)
评论来自
Thottbot
I know that with BC this isnt a big argument anymore. but look at it this way. you ever think that this item was put in so that a skinner had something to make good money on. leather does not sell for nearly as much as other gathered items. i agree skinning is the easiest to level, but why should they give their loot away. and i agree with earlier comments that miners looting a vein in an instance don't make you roll for good items. but say they are a JC and prospect it. out pops an epic gem. do we all get to roll on it, no, even if the ore was looted in that instance. no we don't so why roll on an epic skin. if i was asked at the begining to have a roll for something like that. i would let the people who had a quest roll on it. but if nobody does..SCREW YOU it's mine.
评论来自
Thottbot
Hey, could a 70 with full season one glad gear or full T6 gear, solo The Beast?
评论来自
Thottbot
QQ, need 2 more people to get to him, no farming for me :(
评论来自
Thottbot
Tamed him on the server draka last night. had a shaman friend of mine come with me for heals and heroism. used some taming trick used on uvuros, except the beast has a NASTY knockback that will throw you across his pen. i just stood in corner with hay pile and once i had built enough aggro dismissed old pet and started taming. (make sure you drink a haste potion and have aspect of the monkey on) once shammy popped heroism its was all she wrote.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well if you can tame him at 70 and he got a skull that kinda just says...SKULLS ARE NOT LEVEL 500! They are only 2-3 levels higher and the skull merely marks it as a boss (really who cares about level in raids? if your the right level for the raid then it makes sense that blizz wouldn't add something at an unimaginably high level in there...common sense people)
评论来自
Thottbot
Yeah I have to agree... ROFL @ 1k gold to get here. Me and a buddy cleared the instance by ourselves really easy (pally tank / hunter). I'd also agree that this would be in the 62-63 range since he is a boss.
评论来自
Thottbot
were upper or lower?
评论来自
Thottbot
Mid Solo with 71 retribution paladin...and the server reset...lame....
But i had his health less than 50%. Stayed backed up against the wall to avoid the excessive damage from falling after being launched by one of his attacks. Totally possible to solo, so if your prof is skinning and you can do this on your own - your entitled to be greedy, lol. I'm not a skinner, but I am trying to get the Ace of Beasts.
Goodluck
评论来自
Thottbot
Soloed as a lvl 77 combat rogue. Hits quite hard, just wanted to post this so you know it's doable even if your class can't heal itself.
If you try this as a rogue, I'd recommend that you'd save CloS for his Immolate, it does a nasty tick.
评论来自
Thottbot
Soloed as a 73 BM Hunter with Lynx pet, 21% crit, 10.5khp, 6k mana, and no raid gear equipped. Got thrown around quite a bit because I didn't follow the advice of staying near a wall (panic mode went off and I ended up running around the room) but barely survived. Ended up soloing all of UBRS in about 2 hrs except for Drakk without dying. Will have to return at 80 or find some more adventurous souls on my server willing to relive classic instances. Sadly, they seem few and far between these days :(
评论来自
Thottbot
Look im lvling a a hunter 55 so far and wondered since its lvl 63 can i tame it at lvl 63 f im BM?
评论来自
Thottbot
is this in UBRS or LBRS?
评论来自
Thottbot
Well just to let you know its not BS. Im a level 80 combat rogue and just solo'd him. He doesnt hit very hard when your level 80, I took a heal potion and my trinket that heals about 1400 hp. Thats all I used. Hit evade when the fight began and about halfway thru had to use a heal, then used my trinket and he was done for, I was left with about a third of health after it was all said and done.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol she is easy to bad she didnt drop tristram
评论来自
Allakhazam
This guy is sooo easy. we did 3 runs in a row and got the Ironweave thing and 2 tristam leggings. we had 2 rogues, and they were very happy.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't know anything. Though I will sure love to see him, if possible I will hit him just to see him attack. That and have a nice screenshot of extremely high damage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guys, if you do notice...this guy is THE BEAST....from....The Sandlot....think about it, in a way hes in his own lil pin....and hes a dog...a giant demon dog....i love blizzards humor
评论来自
Allakhazam
dont really understad why is he maked has a lvl 500. someone care to explain? is there more like him, with strange lvls?
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone who has played on an emulated server knows a couple things about levels, so, i will spread my knowledge to you all.
1. Highest player level YOU can be on an emulated server is 225.
2. Highest level a mob can be is, supposedly, 500.
3. this is somewhat proved, as when you kill level "500" mobs at level 225, they still appear as ?...
4. they are not ACTUALLY level 500, you can solo Blackwing Lair and Molten Core at level 225...heh
Now you decide. ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
took this down yesterday with my 58 hunter and he dropped.. Lightforge Shoulders! cant see set items anywhere in the droplist.. new content from the patch or what?
评论来自
Allakhazam
So how do you get 315 skinning? I know that you can get +5 skinning for gloves but that would make it 305 right?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is he really lvl 500?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I six manned this dude on the weekend with 5 of my guildies, we 6 manned the whole place except for drac, where we had to get 2 people to come help because we were light on the dps (and our hunter kept getting conflagged lol)
评论来自
Allakhazam
The drop for Pristine Hide of the Beast is not what is listed on the loot table (0.73%) because The Beast is not skinned every time it is looted. Currently, the drop is 42/1042, or 4.03%. (Look at leather drops only, not total drops; this will change whevever the table is updated.)
Edited, Fri May 19 12:32:57 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Today I had a bug with this mob. No drops :S we can all loot but only 'Wicked Claw' very strange...
评论来自
Allakhazam
is classified as a Beast... Logical. LOL
评论来自
Allakhazam
Browsing through the Bestiary
Kinda shocked... lvl 500? Anyone know anything about this guy?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Any one got pictures of it?
Edited, Sun Nov 21 12:39:59 2004
评论来自
Allakhazam
What interests me is the in the quest, Finkle doesn't specify that the Pristine Hide comes from this specific Core Hound, which makes me wonder why the ones in MC don't have at least some remote chance of dropping it upon skinning, would make a lot of people hella happier...
评论来自
Allakhazam
when people say hes lvl 500. it just means a lvl 60 sees him as lvl ?. If he had a lvl I say it would be about 65-70 elite. he isn't too bad.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Edited, Mon May 1 14:31:39 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
oh, and i stood in the very corner behind the pile to the... left, as you are looking into the area where the beast is., still kicked me back some, but it was workable.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Magmadar Junior :P
This guy is really fun to fight, though his fear can get a little annoying sometimes.
评论来自
Allakhazam
He's off to the left of the big room just past rend. Past the bonfires.
Soloable at 80 lol. Not that it should be a surprise. Kind of annoying as he shoots you up into the air and fears. As a shaman I used tremor totem, but fears are still annoying. I did a fire elemental just so it wouldn't take so long. Other than a slow kill, he's easy at 80.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Are there any hunters out there who have tamed the Beast? Does anyone know if the Beast is really tameable? Beast Lore says it is, but I wonder. I've went with a group to try to tame it several times for a level 80 hunter. If it is tameable, how can you avoid the knockback or fear?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Allakhazam gets lvl 500 from the addons people have enabled when uploading the info. Like, some patches ago, you saw mobs with Boss Lvl ( a hidden lvl, noone can see it ) like lvl 500, therefore it says lvl 500. Lvl 500 is really just a Boss Level, like the troll in Thrall's Chamber.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can confirm that it is tameable, seeing as i had just tamed it about an hour
ago, all i did was get a shaman in for the totems and hero, and i stacked haste foods and potions and haste gear, took a few tries, but it got done lol
Sum up, as of v3.35.12340, The Beast in Upper Blackrock Spire, is Tameable!
Yay! hehe
评论来自
Allakhazam
Could someone post the most efficient way they have fought and killed him? We tried to fight him with 9 guys (One of our warriors bailed just before the fight). We had two rogues, a warrior, two shamans, three hunters, and a priest. He completely annihilated us, then stomped on our bodies for 5 min to make sure.
I found that the warrior was having a very difficult time keeping aggro from him, and was repeatedly feared off. Then the Beast would stomp over (He moves FAST btw) to the priest and beat on him while the shammys would try healing and earthshocking him off the priest.
Dont get me wrong, I liked fighting him, but I would like advice on how better to proceed.
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow i've done countless UBRS runs and i won roll on his hide... 0.33% chance and i roll 99..woot
its used to make really good armor from that finkle guy in winterspring.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ehm does the skinn actauly create a roll or do you have to do a rondom 100 on it? if it generates a roll no way in hell ill farm for it lol.
评论来自
warmaster101
The Beast is incorrectly a level 62 elite in Classic, rather than a level ? boss as in Vanilla.
评论来自
Rothia
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Dungeon Set 2
also called
Tier 0.5
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Dungeon Set 1
pieces.
After completing
向伯德雷回复
which is one part of the chain, you will recieve
符咒火盆用户手册
and
符咒火盆
.
The manual describes where the brazier can be used to summon a variety of bonus bosses with rare loot in the following dungeons:
BRAZIER OF INVOCATION: USER'S MANUAL - Where to find Haunted Loci
厄运之槌
East |
伊萨利恩
"The open-aired chamber where
奥兹恩
resides is one of these haunted loci."
召唤火盆
凶猛之靴
新生之锤
猎手之矛
铁纹手套
希望圣物
重生图腾
Lower
黑石塔
|
莫尔·灰蹄
"Should you seek to raise the echo of Mor Grayhoof's spirit,
指挥官沃恩
's chamber is a haunted location."
召唤火盆
狡诈者腰带
活力神像
铁纹腰带
腭骨粉碎者
神圣权力之书
Live
斯坦索姆
|
appears after defeating
索托斯
and
亚雷恩
"Thus it is that another of these haunted loci is The Crimson Throne (
巴纳扎尔
's room) inside The Scarlet Bastion at Stratholme."
召唤火盆
救赎者项链
修复之戒
铁纹长袍
警觉腿铠
无限专注节杖
通灵学院
|
库尔莫克
"This makes
莱斯·霜语
's chamber one of the haunted locations where the brazier can be successfully utilized."
召唤火盆
阿玛加姆的指环
坚韧英雄指环
通灵之刃
铁纹短裤
Upper
黑石塔
|
瓦塔拉克公爵
"As you must know, this makes Lord Valthalak's abode, what is now
比斯巨兽
's chamber in Blackrock Spire, the last of the haunted locations."
召唤火盆
军团徽记龙盾
残暴护手
铁纹罩帽
折磨护腿
瓦塔拉克公爵的命令法杖
迅捷坠饰
巫师符文指环
统御裹衣
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比斯巨兽
这个 NPC 能在这些地区找到:
黑石塔
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