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Comentario de Andrige

Actually looks believable but I kind of hope not... Lock Jaw (Catforms version of Kidney Shot with a bleeding component) was a great contribution to Feral PvP and could change the situation against for example Warlocks, this one is mostly a PvE ability.
From a raiding perspective though, this would be VERY awesome.

P.S God I love the icon at the very least.

Comentario de 52235

Does it stack? Seems like you could easily have 2-3 overlapping at the same time. Or will we have to alternate Rip with this every other cycle?

Comentario de Anile

Stacking this would be too OP. It is more than likely like a rogue's SnD, refreshing if you already have the buff. It would make rip do some insane damage though, so no need to stach this.

Comentario de antdog

At first I was kinda sad to see that Lock Jaw was removed.

And it did take me a bit to war up to Savage Roar.

But form a PVE stand point, this talent is amazing. It’s our version of Slice and Dice. I will be definitely using rip+sr in my DPS cycles.

And from a PVP stand point its great. Ok we lost LJ....but let another class stun the target. Let us go crazy with burst damage.

THINK ABOUT IT.

If you get IM....your mangles will cost 36. 36 divided by 2 (berserk) will be under 20 energy cost. That’s 5 mangles you can span as fast as you can. Then pop tiger’s fury and you get an additional 3 more. That’s 8 mangles....LOL

With SR and Berserk up, you got 8 mangles at +25% damage.

Call me crazy, but that’s not bad at all.

Comentario de Biglove

Although Lock Jaw was quite a loss PvP-wise, this is an INSANE ability for PvE. SR is an excellent damage buff and a CP-sink.
Well done, Blizzard, well done!

Comentario de Nulgar

Finally a "finisher" to use on low-HP targets - imagine having 3-5 CP on a non-elite target that is below 10% and another add waiting to get dealed with.

*edit* As of 4.0, you don't immediately lose combo points on a dead target (they disappear after about 20 seconds, or when you generate new ones on another target) and you can use Savage Roar (same with the rogue's Hacer picadillo) without the target selected (alive or not) so you can kill an enemy however you like, and then spend remaining combo points on a SR before attacking the next enemy. Note however, that some boss adds or otherwise summoned creatures despawn instantly on death, meaning any combo points on them are lost.

anvex: dammit >_< well, I stand to my typo, I'll keep it for posterity!

Comentario de Jallel

This ability replaces the previous Lock Jaw. Imo, that's just too bad... Savage Roar is not a a bad ability, but I think Ferals are really lacking tools in PVP and since there aren't so many bleed immune mobs now, Rip makes a good finisher for PVE.

Not to say that the benefit a Resto or Balance druid gets from this spell is almost none. I'm sure that if you're forced to stay in cat form for any reason, it will always be better to have a stunt than a AP increase. Specially in arenas, in which many non feral druids start in Cat Form and Pounce an enemy. Having Furor and one combo point and using this would give non Ferals a way to spell interrupt.

Comentario de 63375

If this was added to the game, druids could almost completly replace rogues in pvp.

Stun openers with a DoT in it, CP Dots and instant damage, and now stun and damage done?

:/

Comentario de 66828

one think about this ability is that it say, 100 yards, that's some range for a self buff. to me this abilty sound like a party/raid buff. i realy hop that his is gonna be a raid buff

Comentario de 175983

this is like a rogues slice and dice only insted on speed, you get power.

Comentario de Bloodysorc

as of build 8820 this might finally be a decent finishing move, even if it means losing a rip. With the 4 and 5 cp roars hovering around 30 seconds, combining this with tiger's fury to catch up on the rip cycle might make this viable finishing move.

Comentario de 61487

We will get fights again like we had at Magheridon, where we will start with a lot of tanks, which go over to dps as soon their target is dead. Hire the drood!

Due to their OT/dps ability druids have been and will be a good option in raids, maybe still not on top of damage, but near. And believe me: a well placed battle rezz or innervate from one of the cats will still help to prevent some wipes. We should be aware of being a hybrid class, and to play our class well, we should never forget to use all of your abilities.

Comentario de iwt2001

Just to give an idea of how much this ability would do at level 80 with quest blues, over several lvl80 instance runs our feral druid's ferocious bite average crit was 10k and he crits for over 14k regularly, while his mangles were critting on average for over 4k. This finisher turns ferocious bite into a monster of an attack.

Comentario de Kramp

You can use Savage roar with a Omen of Clarity proc and it will not consume the OoC. :)

Comentario de bigby

I was running Violet Hold the other day and I kept trying to click my icon for this, but it wouldn't work. I had combo points, the situation was apt, any idea what could be preventing this? I believe it's another buff that I had, like trueshot aura, or that DK party buff. Anyway, if someone has any insight as to what buff to avoid in the future, I'd love to know. thanks.

Comentario de Sxeros

Savage Roar: The buff now persists outside of Cat Form but only provides its benefits while in Cat Form.

Source: Source: Source: WoW-Europe 3.0.8 PTR Notes

Comentario de 138716

Savage Roar can be used on targets under the affect of Ice Block, Divine Shield, etc.

Comentario de mouseno4

This spell makes your purple kitty's head glow golden with orange streaks and the chest of the target glow the same colour.

The sound it makes is really awesome, as its a the sound of an actual cat roaring. Just love popping SR and hearing the sound of 'OMG IM GUNNA RIP SUM FACE NAW!'.

Sadly, since my cute purple kitty is crit based, most mobs arent worth popping SR for since they are normally dead in a couple seconds.

Comentario de 311630

I actually think the same way as you... It will nerf them...

Rake the target for (AP/100+17) damage and an additional (90+AP*0.18) damage over 9 sec.

It increases in AP, not Physical Damage, and as we know (At least me, I sadly learned this the hard way), Tiger's Fury doens't increase Rip and Rake damage... And in the current PTR at least, it scales your attack the same way Tiger's Fury does... So, no more damage in Rip/Rake.

Comentario de Neba

I took my camera with me and went to scratch some test dummies on the PTR to put these "bleeds don't benefit from Savage Roar or Naturalist" myths that show up on this page to rest.

The results in bleed tick CRITS since that's what all the cool cats will do come 3.1.:

Without Naturalist:
SR not active: Rake 2793, Rip 2544
SR active: Rake 3630, Rip 3308

With Naturalist 5/5:
SR not active: Rake 3071, Rip 2798
SR active: Rake 3993, Rip 3638

Mangle is up in all cases and no gear is used that would proc AP or other effects. The test kitty has 7112 AP.

The relevant screenies:

Naturalist: No, SR: No. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3773/nonaturalistnosavageroa.jpg
Naturalist: No, SR: Yes. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8653/nonaturalistwithsavager.jpg

Naturalist: Yes, SR: No. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8054/naturalistnosavageroar.jpg
Naturalist: Yes, SR: Yes. http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/792/naturalistwithsavageroa.jpg

The tests show bleeds are considered physical damage for the purposes of Naturalist and Savage Roar, and they get increased by 30% with Savage Roar and 10% with Naturalist.

Comentario de smiley001

From the latest patch 3.2 spell-comparison on mmo-champion:

Savage Roar is now only usable in Cat Form.

Most likely this will only result in a tooltip change, unless someone has any knowledge of getting this to work outside of catform ;)

Comentario de hemmer

Thunder! Thunder! Thunder! Thundercats, Ho!

Comentario de hppa

"Only useable while in Cat Form."

I'm not sure as English isn't really my first language, but shouldn't it be "usable", and not "useable"?

~typo alert!~

Comentario de wowogamer

Savage Roar can no longer be dispelled:

Dispel type n/a

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25 Energía	Alcance de 100 m

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Remate que aumenta el daño físico infligido un 30%. Solo se puede usar en Forma felina. Se prolonga por cada punto de combo:
1 p.: 14 s
2 p.: 19 s
3 p.: 24 s
4 p.: 29 s
5 p.: 34 s

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Categoría GCD

Normal

Costo

25 Energía

Rango

100 metros (Vision)

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n/d

GCD

1 segundo

Efecto #1

Dummy
Valor: 1
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
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Efecto #2

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Valor: 30
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Acción del lado del servidor

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[Is Ability]
[Do Not Sheath]
No se ve afectado por invulnerabilidad
No genera amenza
Requiere puntos de combo en el objetivo
[Ignore Line of Sight]
No puede fallar
No aparece en el registro
[Do Not Display Range]
[No Harmful Threat]
[Taps immediately]

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