all this goofy crap but class tuning mfs should be off break now buff my dmn rets now
First of all it would be nice if you farmed up full tabs with knowlegde skill you should be able to craft max rank of items even with embelishment without insight. The insights should be for if you havent yet got full tabs with knowledge points. This is my main issue in the crafting system. If u spend so much time to get all tabs in your proffession maxed out on knowledge points and you cant spend more points reasonable u should be max rank and be able to craft max rank? No?
This new Crafting system is a hot pile of mess, that was my opinion upon it's initial release and despite numerous minor changes here and there, my opinion has NOT changed.One thing I would like to point out, which I am sure almost everyone knows by now is, as long as you have at least one alt the weekly profession quests for filling X number of work orders is super easy and doesn't require you to hunt for any public or personal orders at all.Just log onto your alt and send your crafter the cheapest crafting recipe work order or make it a double win if the 2nd crafting quest from profession trainer that requires to craft some items are also part of crafting system. You just gonna have to retrieve those on your alt from the mailbox and send it back to main for them to turn in for quest!I haven't bothered public or personal work orders when it comes to profession quests for ages.
Massive problem with the crafting system, AH, group finder, guild finder, anything in the game that tries to connect people in one way or another is that the UI is awful. Low effort low functionality design that allows problems like scam orders and people who have no idea how to use the system. Does anyone remember back in MoP there was a group finding addon, called 'oQueue' iirc - over 10 years on and the Blizzard provided tools can't match half the functionality of that addon. If we had interfaces we could easily navigate and filter, noone would care about scam orders because they would just filter them out.
Cross-realm work orders, even if just within a community or with bnet friends, would be nice.Ability to instantly complete a work order on one of your alts without logging around would also be great.An ability to use excess Mettle to buy knowledge points (even if it gets steadily more expensive each time) would be great.
What I would change for Public orders:Materials need to be mandatory. Everything else is just BS for crafters.Buyer needs to be able to set a quality. Maybe even with different prices, depending for rank. 4* he pays 2k, 5* he pays 10k. What I would fundamentally change for crafting:Remove Quality from everything but Gear, potions and gems.Make it you always can guarantee Max level, it just depends on the amount of materials you need, Maybe with some DR.Rework inspiration to efficency, reducing mats needed.Quality on reagents just take up to much bag space and inspiration crafting is just annoying for customer and crafter.
Manthieus is going along the right track.Everything should be a base item bought on the AH. You can then apply a missive as a consumable to change the secondaries whilst it's BOE, and a further consumable (spark equivalent) that changes the ilvl and makes it soulbound.Forcing /2 interaction is awful. RNG in crafting is awful. The work order system is awful. Three ranks of reagent qualities is awful.
I've stopped doing work orders and crafting in general. From my experience people always want to hagle about the prices for an max item level'd piece and work orders are like the article said just a scam current patch.
i thought work orders are a dead feature.that is, until i server transferred. sooooooo, BLIZZARD KEEP COMBINING SERVERS ffs. the fact that players have to spend money to actually be able to use and experience expansion features is pathetic. they did some server connections around shadowlands (i think it started even before sl release?), however, for some random reason they didnt continue? I dont understand.
Not required mats on public orders is terrible and only does two things. It enables scammers to spam the crafting system with dead orders and encourages clients to remain ignorant on how the system works. Clients don't even get a pop up warning when they submit public orders without mats.Blizzard wants their work order system to look like its being used. Thats why they limited crafters to 1 order per day and allow scammers to fill the listings.Suggestions.1. Public orders need to require mats.2. Adding a 1-2 minute delay before a posted public order can be filled might be helpful and solve the visibility issue. This would eliminate sniping and the appearance that the table is dead. Crafters could submit a request to pick up the newly posted order and then the table would roll it off and award the winner the contract for 1 minute before it reverts to a standard public order.3. Lose the 3 ranks of mats. It's just too much. We only need 1 type of each mat. 4. A client should be able to see a crafters skill percentages for a given craft, as well as their recipe list.
while cross-realm would be nice, it will only be for the benefit of bots and snipers
Firstly, capping public orders was just dumb for professions like alchemy. Secondly, kinda too late to fix a terrible system at this point in the expansion. Crafting system was cool but holy moly public crafting order system was possible one of the worst things ever added to a game xD I'd love to see profession system carry over to next expansion but not this ass order system. Entire thing needs a massive rework.
The Crafting Order system and interface is ridiculous and complicated in so many ways. If I want a high end item, I have to research what profession makes it, what mats I need and how to best get them, figure out how sparks work, etc. Compare to AH where I just browse a certain slot and boom, I see everything that is available.Why are they reinventing and duplicating what the AH does? Just use the AH, requiring the buyer to enable BOP items with "sparks" or other mythic drops or whatever.And now I'm just going to paste in my wishlist from last week's gold article:What I want to see:#1 Yes, just use the dang AH (and people who really like trade chat can still use it!):
I would say it again, to add a catchup system for Knowledge points in exp 11, but honestly, at this point i think the whole thing should be deleted.It's a useless,grindy system that helps nobody with an actual life. Main reason why i unsubbed. Yes devs, you guessed it, its my dream activity in this game to farm piles of dirt on 5 different characters for a 1% chance of a dragon shard or whatever.