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Comment by 319936

This a good time reduce talent make holy priest heal faster (Discipline has Borrowed Time). Paladin have Light's Grace which is similar. And shaman's Tidal Waves.

Oh, btw, 12% for 2.5s is 0.3s, and 3 stack means reduce your Greater Heal cast time to 1.6s. really fast. BUT, you need to cast three Flash Heal, which is bad mana efficient for holy priest. If you are lucky, Surge of Light will help you a lot to solve this.

Comment by 318094

I'm torn. I like this talent, and yet I don't. But not because I think it's bad. Because I don't get to use it as much as I would like to. It's definitely handy knowing that my next GH or PoH will be under 2 seconds at least after three consecutive FH's or BH's, but it saddens me that I more often than not end up watching the timer tick away to zero since most of the time people's health bars aren't depleted enough for me to truly enjoy the benefit of replenishing all their health that much faster. I see this talent benefitting PoH more tho, since you only need a group of people to have taken a somewhat nasty hit as opposed to one person who's taken a very nasty one. That's fine by me. I just wanna get the chance to use this talent's procs more often. :(

Incidentally, I might actually end up taking one point out if I find it better spent elsewhere (stronger healing versus faster healing). I'm really torn. I recognize how good the talent is for crucial moments, but the situational nature of the talent is making me pull my hair out.

Comment by 305569

It should be noted that when you use a Surge of Light proc on Flash Heal, you will not get a stack of Serendipity.
Edit : Fixed as of patch 3.1.1, you will now gain Serendipity from using a Flash Heal with the Surge of Light effect.

Also, this talent is currently bugged.
You can chain-cast a Prayer of Healing or Greater Heal one right after another and have the haste effect carry over into the cast.

Any delay in between the casts nullifies the bugged effect, however. And it works only once for the cast after it, until you gain new stacks of Serendipity.

This can lead to insane amounts of healing output very quickly with a 1 second Greater Heal or 1.2 second Prayer of Healing.
(Although you'd go out of mana just as quickly.)
Edit again : Hotfixed in a rolling restart. Will no longer carry over.

Comment by MaryMary

I like this talent in theory. It seems great.

In practice, it's much different.

While raiding, it's rare that I cast Greater Healing ever, and if I do, it's usually for huge amount of overheal.

The strength here is Prayer of Healing. With Ulduar, and some of the changes, Prayer of Healing + Glyph of PoH can be your bread and butter some times. But if you're casting lots of PoHealing, and raid healing, you're maybe not casting many flash heals. One here or one there, but often not enough to make full use of this talent.

The main focus of this talent is Emergency Reactive situations. You're flash healing the tank or main tank, and there is a Decimation like on Gluth or a Tantrum like on XT-002, and you all of a sudden need a big heal very fast.

Then you get that first big group heal with PoH off much faster. But that one PoH, at that one moment, is all it really benefits. All that talent for one situational cast. I dunno.

It might be worth it, if your situation is really that critical. But I, for one, have lots of talents I want, and Serendipity, being so high on the tree, I just have a hard time convincing myself to invest in it.

I may be entirely wrong though, maybe I've missed something in my theorycrafting

Comment by Artea

I'm not certain if this is a UI bug or if it is a Mechanic bug, but if you get any number if stacks of serendipity and cast a spell that would consume it, and then recast it immediately - It will gain the same haste benefit. Would anyone be able to confirm this?

Comment by Artea

This has indeed been hotfixed.

Comment by 386345

Is the effect stackable?

Comment by L33tsauce

The fact that this talent is called Serendipity automatically makes any argument against it invalid.

Comment by gamerunknown

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent#bVcbuZftzcfMqihMxuio:0NmzMV

That's what I use. It's hard to explain why I have full empowered healing and glyph of flash heal if I don't use flash heal a lot, but with my latency and raiding with holy pallies or resto druids, flash heal will more often than not contribute to overhealing. Empowered renew, I find, is much more effective. If I do need to cast a significant amount of flash heals, it'll run my mana ragged so I have the glyph for those situations. With the T10 2 piece bonus chances are I'll be using it more often, too...

In some situations where the other healers are out of line of sight or dead, greater heal becomes the more efficient heal, but in those situations, its higher hps and more mana efficient to spam it and not worry about flash heal, which is why I sank the spare 2 points into test of faith rather than serendipity, though shield would be just as viable. As for body and soul: the only encounter I can think of where it doesn't come in handy at all is patchwerk.

Edit: I took 5% spell crit. Assuming you take all the first tier talents, inspiration and divine prayer, you have a choice between 2% less spell damage, 0.1 sec less cast time on spells you don't use as a healer or 5% off crit damage (only melee crits in PvE, so yeah). Whichever of those you take, you can move on to get Holy Reach, then 0.3 additional reduction in cast time on spells you don't use as a healer, additional reduction off crit damage, less spell damage taken, or a reduction in mana in spells that you don't use in PvE or will be bound to inner focus anyway. From there, we assume you max Healing Prayers, Spiritual Guidance, Spiritual Healing and Holy Concentration.The choices now are interesting. Empowered healing affects spells you'll rarely be using as a holy raid healer given the effectiveness of CoH, PoM and emp. renew. Flash heal is pretty effective in fights like festergut where holy light spam might not be enough to keep the MT level. Surge of light is a fantastic filler for spot damage where renew may be all overheal. Serendipity is useful in that you can store charges for quickly responding to spike tank or raid damage. Body and soul is just generally useful. Blessed resilience the weak link here. Its fairly easy to juggle points between Empowered Renew, Test of Faith and Empowered Healing (or even Surge of Light or Serendipity I'd say) based on preference.

The important decisions are in the later tiers, not the earlier ones. Dropping healing focus or spell warding wont be a HPS increase unless you're casting greater heal.

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Serendipity

Serendipity

Talent

When you heal with Binding Heal or Flash Heal, the cast time of your next Greater Heal or Prayer of Healing spell is reduced by 12%. Stacks up to 3 times. Lasts 20 sec.

(100ms cooldown)

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Duration

n/a

School

Physical

Mechanic

n/a

Dispel type

n/a

GCD category

n/a

Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Aura proc chance

100%

Effect

Apply Aura: Proc Trigger Spell (8152)
Value: 1
PVP Multiplier: 1

	Serendipity

Affected Spells:

Greater Heal	Flash Heal	Flash Heal
Flash Heal	Flash Heal	Flash Heal
Flash Heal	Flash Heal	Greater Heal
Greater Heal	Greater Heal	Greater Heal
Greater Heal	Flash Heal	Flash Heal
Greater Heal	Greater Heal	Greater Heal
Flash Heal	Flash Heal	Rapture

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Passive spell
Aura is hidden
Cast time is hidden
Instant Target Procs
Can Proc From Procs

Serendipity

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