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Comment by 2OfDiamonds

With patch 3.1.0 this spell was changed to 3 ranks, it used to be 5 ranks but this is now the highest.

Saving for posterity what it used to do:

Rapture - Rank 5
Causes you to gain up to 2.5% of your maximum mana each time you heal with Greater Heal, Flash Heal or Penance, or damage is absorbed by your Power Word: Shield or Divine Aegis. Increasing the amount healed or absorbed increases the mana gained.

Comment by 300760

now i will be oom in arena ):

Comment by 137501

Guess this means that there won't be any mana regen from Divine Aegis anymore like the previous version of this talent. Guess spell crit will no longer be a stat for mana regen with disp priests.

Comment by 321419

Quick question to someone who accesses the PTR. Does this mean that if the priest shields themself that they receive 2% mana instantly and then 2.5% if their shield gets completely used? If it does then I think it makes a fairly nice change from the original where a shield can only get you 2.5%.

Comment by 27710

This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.

What is this in reference to? the 2% mana regen? or the 2.5% regen?

In other words does this mean:

Only one person every 12s can get back 2% mana
The priest can only regen 2.5% max mana once per 12s regardless of how many bubbles are used-up during that time

Which? Or all? has anyone been able to test this on the PTR?

Comment by 262331

I dont like the new rapture, let me justify it with numbers on my priest (lvl 76, mana 13.1k, SP 1086, Rapture 5/5, crit = 17.6%).

Penance.
Cost = 538 mana
Normal tick (82,4%) gives 69 mana back
Crit tick (17,6%) gives 106 mana back
Estimated tick gives 75 (69*0.824+106*.176) mana back
Therefore, 3 ticks give 225 mana back

Greater Heal.
Cost = 1077 mana
Normal (82.4%) gives 182 mana back
Crit tick (17.6%) gives 288 mana back
Expected value is 200 (182*0.824+288*.176) mana back

Flash Heal.
Cost = 544 mana (glyphed)
Normal (82,4%) gives 87 mana back
Crit tick (17,6%) gives 132 mana back
Expected value is 95 (87*0.824+132*.176) mana back

Now my 12 sec rotations:
1. Penance - GHx2 - Penance = 850 mana
2. Penance - FHx3 - Penance = 735 mana
Of course, you have to add Aegis and PW Shield absortion.

The 3.1 rapture will give me 328 (13.1k*0.025) mana each 12 secs.

In summary:
pre 3.1 rapture gives me 800 mana each 12 secs
post 3.1 rapture will give me 328, less than a half

Personal verdict: new rapture sucks

Comment by 181780

Oh...yay...8 rage...

Id so much rather have the 16 energy from it.

Comment by 95972

From a PvP perspective, with enough mana* you can (sort of) spam this to regain mana. Against dispel spammers you'll have probably 13 seconds between casts to wait, but meanwhile they're wasting mana casting the dispel. Against plain old DPS, the mana return can help you stay standing or - if you get caught alone - pump out the mana-draining DPS you need to take them down.

Pop Power Infusion before the shield and you'll get back a little more. Pop Hymn of Hope, and if you time it well, you could get back quite a bit. (Using Shadowfiend after HoH is similarly beneficial.)

* Talented, the cost of my PWS is 666. The break even point seems to be right around 14848 mana, where I get back 668 (297 and 371). After PI my PWS costs 532. After HoH I have 17817, and see a return of 803 (357 and 446).

Comment by Blinky11

I don't understand why they removed the Divine Aegis part of this talent, as it blended well with disc's crit-style of play. I enjoyed stacking crit as a mana-return stat, but now I have to bubble my raid's melee dps just to get some mana back without using my squid within 20 seconds of fighting.

A simple change to make this much more acceptable would be to add DA to the talent, allowing us to get mana back that is proportional to the absorption amount...

Comment by 313008

I hate the new Rapture for a reason that's mentionned here before, but this is the only reason i care for Rapture.
My healing spec was more disc than holy, before patch i had my disc filled up to Rapture and all the rest went to holy.

Why do I hate new rapture? Because it only gets affected by PW:S, not by flash heal or greater heal anymore.

When I did a full heal with flash heal, i got at least 150 mana back, with a greater heal up to 350.
When i did a full crit flash heal, i got at least 200 mana back, with a crit greater heal over 500. This all assuming there's no overhealing.

Conclusion: since flash & greater heal are my most used heals, the old Rapture converted it's effect into EXTREME cheap flash heals & greater heals EACH time.
Try think of a talent that says: "Reduces the mana cost of your Flash Heal and Greater Heal by 20% to 60%, depending on the amount healed" ===> sounds catchy, doesn't it? (I'm no math scientist, I purely guess at the % values, tho i feel i'm quite close to what the actual values would be).

All these numbers are based on my own mana pool that at the time was 20K+.

I was struggling to get my new spec right. I did succeed to get the best possible regen spec from my point of view & healing style, tho it's nothing near the power of my old spec (tried to make the best of it ofc).

Anyhow, time to move on & get used to the new talents. Still love priests, only the rapture change was my biggest shock in the patch.

Comment by 337248

Do you get the 2.5% mana if you dispell the shield yourself, by right-clicking on the buff icon?
That would make it awsome for leveling as disco.

And, if it does work, can you then make a macro like this?

/cancel aura power word: shield
/cast power word: shield

Edit: Does not work :(

Because of this effect we should call PW:S, Mr. Bubbles from now on. Those who have played Bioshock will understand why ;)

Comment by 201994

Anyone have any idea whether or not this talent will work during the General Vezax encounter? I believe not, but was wondering if anyone could say for certain...

Comment by rncx

it does work on general vezax, but it's a pretty small amount of mana considering you're limited to getting it every ~20 seconds.

if you're only tank healing, you could probably get away with only using this in lieu of the puddles considering penance doesn't cost that much.

/shrug

Comment by 258282

what i NEED to know, is that if you cast a shield on YOURSELF (i.e the priest) and the effect triggers, do you get BOTH the 2.5% mana AND the 2% mana back return total (i.e 4.5% mana)

Comment by 381520

Ok, you say that it sucks. But tell me is it really worth to get?

Comment by Vacc

Works on the Abomination in the Putricide encounter. A quick 16 energy at the start is a godsend at times.

Comment by zapiks44

I am zapiks44 and I'm here to ask you a question:
is a healer not entitled to their own style of healing?

No, says the druid, it belongs to HoTspam.
No, says the shaman, it belongs to chainspam.
No, says the paladin, it belongs to HLspam.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I choose.....

RAPTURE!

A talent where the priest need not fear shieldspam.
Where the mana bar would not be bound by petty OOMness.
Where the non-mana users would not be constrained by the mana users.
And with your own style of healing,
Rapture can become your talent as well.

Comment by 504909

I wondered if there was an addon that could set up a bar to time whenever the 12s of the spell had passed. I mean, when your Power Word; Shield is fully absorbed you gain 2,5% mana, but also prevents that mana regain from happening for another 12s. Just wondered if you could get an addon to track down whenever the 12s after the shield had been broken, had passed.

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Rapture

Rapture

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When your Power Word: Shield is completely absorbed or dispelled you are instantly energized with 2.5% of your total mana, and you have a 100% chance to energize your shielded target with 2% total mana, 8 rage, 16 energy or 32 runic power. This effect can only occur once every 12 sec.

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Physical

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Cost

None

Range

0 yards (Self)

Cast time

Instant

Cooldown

n/a

GCD

0 seconds

Effect #1

Apply Aura: Dummy
Value: 2
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script
Affected Spells:

Renew	Renew	Renew
Renew	Renew	Renew
Renew	Renew	Renew
Renew	Renew	Renew
Renew	Renew

Effect #2

Apply Aura: Dummy
Value: 100
PVP Multiplier: 1
Server-side script
Affected Spells:

Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield
Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield
Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield
Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield
Power Word: Shield	Power Word: Shield

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Can Proc From Procs
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