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Comment by maurice

Here's how you get to Fineous:

1) Go into BRD (duh).

2) Go straight, clear your way to the path directly in front of you- this is the path that runs almost perfectly east/west along the southern side of the Arena.

3) Go into the Arena and do the event. This will make the spectators at the top of the Arena (you'll be there in a second) passive.

4) Go out the arena exit, it's to your left as you walk into the arena. You'll find yourself in a room with some DI Dwarves and some fire elementals.

5) On the right there will be stairs/a ramp leading up to the spectator area of the arena. Walk to the other side of the arena, DO NOT ATTACK THE SPECTATORS.

6) At the other end of the arena go down the ramp. Going right will take you to the statue you turn Ironfel in at. Head left to get to Fineous after crossing through a few rooms first. He's in the room with the large stone golems and the non-elite dwarves. He pats up and down the ramp.

7) After you kill him head back the way you came, go past the entrance to the arena and continue on to the statue that is just around the corner.

Comment by 22578

A guide to the monument:
Enter the instance open the door to your left. Then the next one on your right and then the other one on your left again. Take the stairs up and then go straight on to the stairs leading up. Go around the stands and you will find the stairs leading down. Go down to the room and then right all the way. The "Monument of Franclorn Forgewright" is @ the end of the room.

Thats the path... you need to go with a group unless you are a rogue. You must do the arena event to make Neutral the people on stands. As a rogue level 57 i stealthed all the way and then i went back of the "Monument of Franclorn Forgewright" and i completed the quest without aggroing the mobs.

Comment by 48994

Very informative, thanks! Followed those steps and was easily able to get the Ironfel and then the Shadowforge key. Easily soloable for a 70 druid.

Comment by 75524

you can find the statue behind the Pyromancer Loregrain

Comment by bebbe

you turn in the quest right behind the boss Pyromancer Loregrain.

After finishing the arena (aka ring of law ><) boss, go up the new tunnel that opens up, then turn right and you'll be on top of the arena, go around the arena to the other side, then take a right and he'll be right there.

Check some map for pyromancer loregrain if you cant find where to turn in this quest.

Comment by 110776

it should be noted that the "arena" mentioned in the first comment is the Ring of the Law.
the directions were confusing for me because i was looking for something marked as arena and never found it. being one of the many players that didn't come on til after BC i had never run any of the Blackrock Mountain dungeons.

Comment by 167947

I would just like to note that this isn't really shareable. In the first part of this quest that you talk to the guy while dead, he has you immediately talk to him again, and puts you on a new part of the quest. If the people in the group didn't talk to the dead guy you will not be able to share with them

a little misleading for those that are going back through and doing some of the old world content

Comment by soterios

You must kill Fineous Darkvire for this quest.

Linked because it's easier for people who just browse comments looking for basic info!

Comment by Zeror

It is an easy quest to solo as a lvl 65 Hunter. If you follow the lines that Maurice posted above it can be done easily.

I've killed 12 mobs max. before i killed Fineous Darkvire. Most of the mobs can be skipped (on my level). The only two big fights you have is the event arena and 4/5 mobs in the passage between the bridge (with fire elementals) and the bar-like room. After the bar-like room it is much easier to jump down to place of Lord Incendius. Clearing that place gives you enough space to pull mobs from the room where Fineous Darkvire is patrolling. And it is possible to pull Fineous Darkvire alone this way.

Also walking to the statue is also easy and can be done without hitting a mob. Even going to the exit can be done without hitting a mob.

Good Luck!

Comment by 267900

where is he quest giver?

Comment by roguexx

damn i forget to get the hammer form the boss

Comment by 39864

I just completed this in raid. So, if you were wondering.

Comment by 457526

Seiferthiago's video is great!

Comment by Christhina

All of the previous comments were very helpful in allowing me to get this done - but it might be easier to summarise it all here:

Assuming you're looking for the Shadowforge Key, the first step is to die, and pick up the quest from Franclorn Forgewright. Dying within the Blackrock Mountain, preferably near the entrance to BRD is easy - on the run back, pick up the quest, and ressurect at your corpse.

Enter BRD itself, and continue straight forward, past the initial 2 guards visible upon zoning in, and continue straight across the circular room you find yourself in (minimap reads "Detention Block"), and enter the tunnel directly opposite your entry point. Continue up this tunnel until the first pack of mobs on the right hand side, on your left will be a tunnel. Take this, and you will enter "Ring of the Law".

Stand on the grate in the middle of the room to engage the event, but make careful note of your entry point to this room. You will get 2 waves of scorpid like adds, and after this, a random (thank you Narinae!) boss will enter. Kill him, and this will open a gate to the left of the point where you entered the room. This gate will reveal a ramp leading up, take this (you will see "East Garrison" on your minimap), and at the end of the ramp you will enter a room.

Perform an immediate U-turn (About turn in USA) to your right, and take the ramp up to the spectator room. Minimap will change to read "Ring of the Law" again. Without attacking any spectators (they are non aggressive given your completion of the event previously), cross to the opposite side of the spectator room (still "Ring of the Law" on minimap).

At the opposite end of the spectator room, enter the open doorway and take the ramp (short) leading down. You will enter a room, and your minimap will change to read "Shrine of Thaurissian". Turn left (there is a pack of mobs at the end of the ramp, but these should be avoidable at level 80).

Continue straight, your minimap will change to read "Shadowforge City" as you begin to cross a bridge crossing what looks to be a moat of lava.

At the end of the bridge, you will need to kill a pack of 4 mobs (minimum, assuming you don't enrage the fire elementals on the bridge). Walk forward, and enter the room, your minimap will change to read "The Domicile".

Walk directly across the room, and slightly to the right - at the opposite side of the room is a ramp leading down. Take this ramp and through the narrow doorway at the bottom.

Turn right, and through a doorway to what appears to be (and is) a balcony. Deal with the pack of mobs that are just at the entry to this balcony. Your minimap will again read "Shadowforge City". On your right are two doorways - take the second doorway, and you will enter a room with a stone path that turns into a ramp leading down. Your minimap will change to read "Hall of Crafting".

This ramp is in three parts, and Fineous will be on one of these three sections. Kill him to loot Ironfel.

Retrace your steps (up ramp, to balcony, through door second on left, turn left, up ramp, across room toward fire elementals visible beyond doorway to your right, across bridge, and enter "Shrine of Thaurissian").

Continue forward a short way, and turn the corner to the right - you should see the quest turn in at this point, allowing quest completion - you will need to kill Pyromancer Loregrain to get close enough (assuming you're not a rogue/druid with stealth etc).

Once you have the quest complete, you can pick up retracing your steps to the exit by taking the first doorway on your left after handing in the quest.

Hope this all makes sense, and condenses much excellent information provided by those writing previously!

Comment by blankStare

I've got the ironfel from a previous run. Is there a way to get to the statue without doing the arena event?

Comment by 554049

Not looking forward to having to wait while pesky lvl 50-60's bash down my 40k health, do I really have to die to pick this quest up? They haven't changed it over the years? lame!

Comment by 299678

Does anyone know if this counts for Loremaster?

Comment by Thottbot

So easy that you are probably missing it. :)

The turn in is down the hall to your right after the Ring of Law on the way to the Shadowforge City. As the quest states, it is a statue of the dwarf and it requires Ironfel which drops from the guy that an above poster states is in Shadowforge City.

Can anyone give more information on where to find the NPC that drops the Ironfel? We get past the Ring of Law and into Shadowforge City, but we did not have time to explore that well. Is it fairly linear but just a LOT of NPCs to fight to get to him?

Comment by Thottbot

Obviously as stated so far, get the quest by being a ghost and visiting the tomb to talk to the questgiver.

Once you have the quest, enter the instance and clear the large room with the 3-dog patrols and dwarves to make your way straight across.
Make your first left in the next hallway to enter the arena. You will fight several Kodo-type beasts (sheepable) and a named insect/arachnid. Once this is complete, you will have turned the mobs above non-aggressive.
Go through the west tunnel and up the stairs.
At the top, turn to your right and you'll see another flight of stairs to you right.
Go up those stairs and you'll enter the spectator area of the arena.
Go around the arena and exit the other side.
In here clear your way to a small flight of stairs that lead down and proceed out (don't go up the other flight).
Ahead, take a left (to the right is the statue that you turn in Ironfel to) and cross a bridge where you'll be ambushed by 2 dwarves.
Kill the remaining 2 fire elementals and proceed.
To the right is the vault (if you have 11 Relic Coffer Keys in your party you can complete "Heart of the Mountain").
The 2nd right is where Fineous Darkvire is. He walks around so kill the golems and dwarves until you make your way to him. Loot him for Ironfel.
Now backtrack past the vault, across the bridge, and go straight. You'll run into two camps of mobs and see the statue ahead.

Gratz! You now have the Shadowforge Key.

Comment by Thottbot

Just tried Duoing him , 57 rogue and 60 rogue . Took some tricks to clear the top alcove he walks to but After engaging him it became quickly apparent he is not possible to do. Well unless you are seriously Twinked out .....but then you wouldnt be needing this key in the first place. The guy is a pally and can hit for over 1k =/

Comment by Thottbot

After u get the ironfel go back to the arena and go upstairs to where the spectators are, go across ( towards the north ) and make a right, the statue is in there, one rogue can sap and distract while the other rogue/druid can loot the statue.

Comment by Thottbot

You can turn it in solo as a rogue. Stealth up to the statue (across the arena upper level, down the steps on the east side of the arena, make a right turn go to the end of the hall...)
When you see the two flame pots, sneak over to the left side, and face the fire pot and the upper level that the statue sits on. Back up a step and then jump forward. You should be able to walk behind the statue from here. First, pop a distract to make everyone look away form the statue (center it behind the flame elemental guy so you get bothe twilight elites turned around) and run back to behind the statue and activate it. Continue and end the quest you will get your key and some cash. Stealth before the distract wears off and walk out.

---peace

Comment by Thottbot

Me, (lvl 59, several greens, combat spec) and another rogue, (60, mostly blues, also combat spec), duo'd the mob that drops the hammer necessary for the key. Using Zero260's excellent instructions we got to a room with tons of "Wrath hammer Constructs" We killed the one that is by the top of the ramp, (ramp goes down north from the door, then takes a 90 degree turn west, again heading down, then takes another 90 degree turn south creating an up side down U. You will enter on the right side of the upside down U) There are also some dwarven workers in an alcove to the right, 3, be careful not to aggro them when killing the first stationary Construct, as they hit hard even though non elite.

After you kill the dwarves, there is a patrolling Construct. Kill him, and now you should have most of the right part of the upside down U to yourselves (the part before it begins to turn into a ramp) Look across, and you should see Fineous Darkvire at the bottom of the left side of the upside down U. He will stand there for quite a while, but eventually if you wait, (5-10 minutes by my estimate, its a while, be patient) He walks up the ramp to where you cleared the stationary, and patrolling construct, and the dwarven workers. Here you begin your battle.

I cant say exactly the best way to beat him, but basically my buddy got aggro first, and we brought him down as far as possible. He used evasion and a major health pot. After he was close to death, he vanished leaving me with the aggro. I used evasion and blade flurry, and got down close to death. I kidney shotted him and popped a major health potion. then after we downed him, we looted the mallet and got outta there =D

Second part of the quest was going to the statue to finish the quest. There are 5 mobs guarding the statue, 2 elites, (flame guard, and twilight something or other, and 3 dwarven peasents) Best way to do this would be to duel sap the elites, (providing both have IMP SAP.) Seeing as I wasnt specced with it, we chose the sure fire way out, I put on evasion, and sprint in stealth, then sapped one of the elites, and ran like hell drawing the aggro away from the statue. The other rogue, clicked on the statue, and turned in the quest getting the key. Remember there are 2 "continues" before you actually finish the quest. so do a rapid fire before your pal dies, and the mobs run back. (the runner prob will die, i died even after i did a vanish, you aggro like 3 groups)

Comment by Thottbot

were is the shine of thuarissan, is it in brd or in the ruins of thuarissan and if it is..were is it?

Comment by Thottbot

Okay, I did the rescue the princess quest and it was bugged...she wouldn't release from his spells and kept attacking. I pst'd a GM...FORGET IT. Have to abandon it and do it over. So if you dropped your key...you have to redo the quest.

Also, it is not a random drop. It is a quest item that is picked up EVERY time. If you get that Ironfel, you turn it in, and that's it.

The quest itself can ONLY be picked up when dead. You HAVE to listen to his whole schpeil...(sp) then when done, the exclamation point will pop up over his head. If it doesn't listen again, cuz you didn't listen to it all the first time. It is in Fortwright's Tomb on the way down in to BRD before the molton span and the final chain on that big tomb sitting in the middle of the room. GOOD LUCK :)

Jocelynn (Boulderfist)

Comment by Thottbot

It's easy for rogues and druid to stealth there. He's in the room right behind Incendius, therefore any walkthrough on soloing Incendius can be used to get to him. I can stealth to him with the shadowforge key in less than 5 minutes with virtually no risk.

With or without the key you can do it with a stealth team (rogues and druids).

Without the key:
Just stealth into the arena (straight across the first circular room). Dogs can see through stealth but at 60 this just means you have to be wary of the patrols a little. Once you're in the arena everyone get up off the the arena floor proper, on the curved rock section to the right as you enter. One person step on the grate in the middle to start the event and then join the others fast (all stealth). Now just wait. Once the spawns have been around awhile the gate to the left of where you entered opens regardless of whether you've fought, go through there and...

With or without a key:
...you enter the same room you can get to with the key after opening the two gates and the door from the beginning, the one with the big gear in the lower area of the room. Don't activate the big gear, you don't need to do it to get to fineous and it can make exiting the instance at the end harder. So from the gear room stealth down the hallway (if you find yourself in the circular arena again you went the wrong way) and when you get to the "dead end" jump out the window to your right, the one with cannons pointing out of it. Hop down, then follow the platform towards the elemental guards, keep going past incendius (although I highly recommend killing him too, he's cake for more than one person and drops FR gear, just be wary of getting knocked back into the lava) and tadaa! There's fineous standing in the next room. He looks like he stays there but it you wait a looong time he patrols which gives you the chance to clear the adds around him.

He does hit like a truck, hard to take him out with less than 3 60s. Me and another 60 druid couldn't do it although I think it's doable, got him to less than 50% but then lagged to death in the end.

Turning in requires that you backtrack all the way to the gear room. Without the key this is not possible since you jumped out the window so I suggest everyone just get naked and jump in the lava. Once you're in the gear room keep taking the stairways up and you will be on the spectator level. circle around, and exit via the matching stairway on the other side. Hang a right, go all the way to the end of the hallway and jump up on the fire stand on the LEFT (jump on it by approaching from in front of the statue, you will have to get pretty close to some mobs to do this and the jump timing is irritating but keep trying and you'll get up). You will find that you can go behind the statue on the left side! Get back as far as you can and you can unstealth and click on the statue to turn in without any aggro. Gratz you got your key u da bomb.

Comment by Thottbot

Retrace your steps back to the entrance of the instance. Now, as if you had just entered the instance, run straight across the "Detention Block" to the "Halls of Law". Your first left in the "Halls of Law" will lead you to the "Ring of Law". In the "Ring of Law" you will fight some mobs (AOE will help). Exit the "Ring of Law" to the west. This leads up a corridor to the "East Garrison". As you approach the door, hug the wall TIGHT around a 180� turn up some more stairs. You will probably aggro a few mobs doing that. The stairwell leads to the upstairs of the "Ring of Law" where the spectators are. Exit this part to the north to the "Shrine of Thaurissan". Turn right and the shrine is at the end of the hall.

Comment by Thottbot

This was semi hard to find, but once you find it... it's easy. Take a group.

From the Ring of Law ("upstairs" when there crowd is). If you enter from the archway to the on the west side, directly across from you and on the top is another archway. You have to make your way over to it via killing the crowd (unless you did the ring of law event, they turn yellow).

Once you get over there, you enter the Shrine of Thaurissan (it's an area, not a true shrine object)

Kill the mobs and the patrols and turn right (headed south). Near the end is the statue of Franclorn. Pyromancer Loregrain (a rare spawn) has a chance to pop right in front of it.

Kill them and turn in the quest. Walla.

Comment by Thottbot

Enter Blackrock Depths. Go directly forward, through the large open area, and enter the Eastern tunnel on the far side.

At the first left, turn and enter the "Ring of the Law". After completing the mini-event, take the Western door, and run up the ramp into the "Eastern Garrison". At the top of the ramp, immediately turn right, and run up the steps to the upper level of the "Ring of the Law".

Run around the viewing gallery to the tunnel on the far side. Go down the ramp into the Shrine of Thaurissan. At the bottom of the ramp, turn right, and go to the end of the tunnel. You will see the statue at the end of the tunnel to turn in the hammer.

Comment by Thottbot

The statue is right behind where the Rare Pyromancer spawns. Make a right after passing all the spectators above the ring of law.

Comment by Thottbot

Just enter BRD, skip the Detention block and enter the Ring of Law. After the event, go up to the Garrison. If you are there, turn around ant take the stairs up, left of the entrace you came in. Walk the upper area of Ring of Law and you will see some enemies in the next hallway. Kill them and look right, there is the Monument. But go left now and enter Shadowforge City. Enter the first house and fight your way to the stairway down. If you move on, you will see Incendius on a platform below. Walk the whole half ring there and enter the last room, not the Vault! Kill the golem, the first group of engineers and golems and the patrolling golem. You will see Fineous Darkvine. Just wait there. Once in 5 mins he will patrol up all the stairs and check anvils or something. This is the time to kill him. Attack him and disturb his heals, he will drop Ironfel. Now get all the way back to the Monument, described earlier and kill the elites and RARE in front of it. Use the statue and the key, and some money, is yours!

If you are lvl 70, you can solo it i think, I can, but I think you won't need anything there.

Comment by Thottbot

This guy is a tough fight... I used everything I had against him.
Killed him the first time, it was extremely hard, but I was happy... looted him, no hammer... realized I didn't have the quest >.<

Second time, very hard again, but I killed him, died at the same time. Ran back, looted him, then stupidly jumped off the lava and happily died, thinking I needed to talk to the ghost again.

Nope.

Let's hope the last part is easier... I just want my damn key so I can farm for the Ace of Elementals!

Comment by Thottbot

The Poster

After you leave the pub jump down to The boss and fight your way into the next room.
when you go in there will be a thing on the wall that you can mouse over and open after you do so an inage of the guy you need will apear

this is not much help but i know many of you wanted to know where this is

Comment by Thottbot

No confusing directions:
http://www.atlasmod.com/Maps/BlackrockDepths.jpg
Ironfel = #9
Monument = #7
If you already know your way around BRD this is more helpful. Don't try to follow the map if you have no idea where the bosses are, you'll just get lost.

Comment by Thottbot

Just solo'd chain as a 64 hunter (if that even counts...) so I can farm Incendius for shards. Just a matter of running and feigning death, only tricky part was Fineous. I cleared the trash up at the top of his pat and waited for him to go back up so I could single pull him (took like ten minutes). He hit my owl for more than mend pet could heal, so I had to pull aggro off it twice, deterrence, and feign death while mend pet ticked. Had to melee a bit on the boss by the turn-in statue due to space restriction, but there was still room to shoot.

Comment by Thottbot

Getting to Fineous is pretty simple:

The Dark Iron Highway -> The Black Anvil -> The Hall of Crafting

After you enter the instance, head through the locked door on your left (bring a Rogue if nobody in the party has a key) and proceed to the Dark Iron Highway; turn right and make your way to The Black Anvil. Kill Incendius, as he is in your way. Continue past the Anvil and you will see Fineous patrolling the Hall of Crafting. Clear the mobs at the bottom while he is at the top, then kill him when he comes back down. Loot Ironfel from him.

Now, to get to the Statue:

Option One: Continue to the upper ring overlooking the Black Anvil, and make your way past The Black Vault and through the next doorway, which leads to The Domicile. Make your way to the far corner of The Domicile and across the bridge to the Shrine of Thaurissian. Kill Pyromancer Loregrain, as he is in your way. Click the statue to complete the quest and receive your key.

Option Two: After looting Ironfel from Fineous, go back the way you came, and go to the Ring of the Law. After the battle, head up the stairs though the East Garrison to the Ring of the Law. Go to the far side (the spectators will not attack, because you've entertained them) and down the stairs at the far end, and the statue will be on your right.

Comment by Thottbot

NONE of these directions are making any sense... can someone please just put it plain and simple how to find this guy? im sick of following directions and going round in circles

Comment by Thottbot

I just did this, and am updating Zero260's post from long ago.

Obviously as stated so far, get the quest by being a ghost and visiting the tomb to talk to the questgiver.
To save a repair bill, you can go take on the !@#$%d flight master and let him kill you (no durability loss), run to the quest giver, and return to your body.

* Once you have the quest, enter the instance and make your way straight across. (be careful of the dog patrols for stealthed ppl)
* Make your first left once you enter the tunnel on the opposite side, to enter the arena. Two groups, of about five beasts, will come out about 5 seconds apart, When these are dead, a named beast, usually an arachnid, comes out. Once all of these are killed, the door on the West side of the ring will open.
* Go through the West tunnel and up the ramp.
* At the top, make a U-turn to the right, going up a small flight of stairs, and you'll enter the spectator area of the arena.
* Go around the arena and down the ramp on the other side.
* At the T intersection, take a left (to the right is the statue where you turn in Ironfel) and you'll cross a huge bridge.
* In the room across the bridge, there is only one exit, but you can go around the right or the left to get there.
*Once at the exit to this room, you enter a split ring.
*The first door to the right is the Vault (if you have 11 Relic Coffer Keys in your party you can complete "Heart of the Mountain").
* The 2nd door to the right is where Fineous Darkvire is. I found him at the end of the winding ramp, almost to Incindeous. Loot him for Ironfel.
* Now backtrack the way you came, across the huge bridge, but go straight this time, bypassing the entrance to the spectator ring of the Arena on the right. You'll run into two camps of mobs and see the statue ahead.

Gratz! You now have the Shadowforge Key.

I did this with my 70 feral Druid with my 51 Combat Rogue in tow. I used bear form almost all of the time to keep the agro on the druid and the damage down. Even still, this instance has a bunch of runners, and a group of 11 level 50 elites will do even a feral druid in.

I roamed around this instance for a very long time before I finally found this guy. I wish you the best of luck, and hope I have helped in some small way.

Comment by Thottbot

This is worth noting since it seems some people are clueless about the arena by other posters...

The Arena spawns different types of beasts. Even the final.

It can be kodos 1 time or bats the next. Posters seem to leave that fact out.

Also only 2 doors open in the arena after the fight is over.....I dont know why people bother saying "After the Arena fight, take a left when the gates open". Obviously no one is going to leave the arena the way they came in...

Comment by Thottbot

Does anyone know how to get to Shrine of Thaurissan? I can't find the statue...

Comment by Thottbot

I read all these helpful instructions and suggestions, but found myself not really sure about what some were telling me to do. I think it might be because it was written in hindsight. So I wrote this as I did the quest with you in mind, dear reader, in the hopes of giving you as precise a guide as can be of how to get this done.

Once you enter the instance, having secured the quest by wiping (on purpose or no) and speaking with Forgerwright in his Tomb, you enter a large circular cavern. Here you will see 5 possible paths spread before like fingers of your hand. The thumb is short and stubby - you have to have the key to use it anyway. Your index finger and you middle finger are connected, as are your ring finger and pinky (the prison wing).

Take the path corresponding to your middle finger (/rude), being sure to clear the mobs to it as others have mentioned. When you enter, it declares itself the Hall of Laws. Immediately to the left, before you get to the first group of mobs (and just across the hall from them) is the Ring of Justice. Enter and fight the mobs as others described. Then exit through the path that opens to the West (left). This takes you up an incline to the East Garrison.

As soon as you enter, turn to your right, and you will see stairs leading up into the arena. No need to attack anything in here, they are passive because you satisfied their bloodlust with your fight in the ring.

As mentioned, make your way to the doorway exiting the spectator area. Again, earlier posts are correct: the exit is a small downward incline (heading East) which puts you at a 'T.' Left is the way to the quest item - Fineous Darkvine and Ironfel. The right part of the T ends in the statue where you turn in Ironfel and get your key.

Having gone left, you will come to a bridge over the lava and Shadowforge City. Each end of this bridge is guarded by flame elementals. When you walk out, two dwarven elite guards spawn and attack, one from each side of the bridge.

Once across the bridge, you will see a large room. Looking straight across the room from you (slightly right), you will see some steps leading down and to your left (FYI a 50 elite soldier or medic patrols this whole area). There is a small "pantry" sort of room, through which you walk. Go through the doorway at the opposite and and turn right (left is steps leading back up to where you were). Continue through the doorway you see on your right (a group of mobs is waiting to welcome you).

Once you pass through, you come into a kind of balcony with two doorways on the right. Take the second. This leads you into the Hall of Crafting. Head down the winding path. Along the way, you will run into Fineous Darkvine. His mana is prodigious (10k - a 70 lock friend of mine only has 7.5k), cast time on his Holy Light is very short, they all seem to crit him, and almost no mana.

Once you kill him, do a dance on his corpse for me. Then head back to the T. Take the opposite path from the one you took to get Fineous (it is now straight ahead, right is the arena). At the end of the path is the statue which, if you got Ironfel, has a big yellow question mark over it. Turn in quest. Get 2g and your key.

Bam!

Comment by Thottbot

The key (statue) is at the Shrine of Thaurissan, right across the bridge from the domicile..

Or downstairs from the south end of the Ring of the Law spectator area. Depends which way you are coming from.

Comment by Thottbot

Ok.

Took me 3 tries to figure this out, and I feel stupid, lol.

If you are not getting the ironfel hammer drop, you need to make sure that you talked to franclorn forgewright and then turned in the first quest to him.

Once you have done that, then he gives you the quest to get the ironfel hammer.

So in all, there are 2 quests you get from forgewright before you resurrect.

Comment by Thottbot

In trying to get the +22 Intellect enchant, my 73 Mage had to solo the entire process for the key because nobody is interested in going to BRD these days, even for the achievement.

I tried a practice run but (lots of Dark Iron Residue, which was great) the trick is knowing exactly where to go or you could be in there for days. The guides above were invaluable.

The other thing was Mage Invisibility, which worked really well. I only died once, when a patrol wandered into a tea party I was having with two elites and five fiftysomethings. Naturally, although I have the best wand at this level, it's fire-damage-based, which means it had no effect on the fire elementals.

Be prepared for one thing missing from the guides; they tell you what the route is but don't always mention that at each intersection there will be a welcoming committee.

The other good thing is that, if you wait long enough (in my case it was about 10 minutes, during which time I was killing the Easter Island refugees and their little friends), Fineous Darkvire will start up the ramp, which you have presumably cleared, so you can fight him alone. A good thing, because he has this annoying habit of healing himself, turning what could have been a standard fight into something longer.

Comment by Allakhazam

If you have the ability to stealth past all of the mobs, you can use the Ironfel hammer on the statue without getting aggroed. Just jump up between on the fire brazier on the left of the statue and the tall platform that the statue is on. Hop onto the platform after that and head behind the statue. Back there, you can turn in the Ironfel hammer for the key without having to fight. Worked for me.

Comment by Allakhazam

Hi, Im a lvl 60 rogue and I was wondering if it was possible to stealth to the Architect ( Fineous Darkvire) and if it is , could some guide me?

Comment by Allakhazam

Does Ironfel not drop everytime Fineous Darkvire is killed? I had the quest this past weekend and killed him but he didn't drop Ironfel. I thought that quest drops (of this kind) in instances were supposed to be 100%?

Comment by Allakhazam

Edited, Sat Jun 25 16:32:23 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

I was in a group that had the key and opened the doors and we killed Fineous Darkvire and I got Ironfel, but then the group fell apart after that. I then tracked down where the statue was and managed to get the key solo! I'm a 60 Hunter. Here is how I did it (although I don't recommend this for anyone, it took me over an hour to get it right):

Enter instance, go through prison gate on the left, then the prison gate on the right, then the door on the left (since these were all opened by someone in the group). Head up the stairs and straight up the next stairs and this takes you to the arena spectator area. You need to get to the other side. You just hug the inner ledge and you won't aggro any of the spectators.

You come to an entrance to a hallway with six mobs in your way and an Elemental on patrol. You need to go right, as the statue is at the end of that hallway. Wait for the Elemental to go left down the hallway (use Track Elementals). Get kinda close to the mobs hugging the right wall, put pet on Stay, then make sure Cheetah is off so you don't get dazed, then cast Eyes of the Beast (EotB) and have your pet aggro the group and run off down the hall left to the other mob group. Then cancel EotB (by sitting down) and run to the opposite wall just between these mobs and the ones on the right of them and Feign Death (FD) - seems you always aggro one mob but less of chance for resist this way. Make sure you don't FD within their aggro radius.

Then get out of FD, jump on top of the fire brazier and to the back of that ledge, Revive Pet, set to Stay, heal up, mend pet, wait for Elemental pat to come and go, then do the same thing mentioned before with the next group of mobs. Make sure while using EotB you get aggro so they all follow your pet, take your pet down to that first group of mobs and cancel (sit down) and hug the wall to just before the final three mobs and FD.

Now comes the easy part hehe. Get out of FD, revive pet, feed pet, mend pet, heal and mana up, place a Freezing Trap, range attack closest mob and they'll run into trap, have pet aggro the other two mobs and when they're no longer hitting you, loot the statue and complete the quest! Woohoo! One Shadowforge Key. Then of course you die.

Like I said before, I don't really recommend this to anyone, but I had a lot of fun doing it. Now who was it that said Rogues get all the fun? Hehe.

Edited, Sat Nov 26 05:32:50 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

where do I find 'Shrine of Thaurissan'?

Comment by Allakhazam

if you use the shadowforge key to get to the ring of law, how do you get to the arena so the dwarves wont attack you?

Comment by Allakhazam

As of 3.3, the PuG system (at 58 that is) assumes to some degree you have the shadow forge key - although it is not enforced.
Whichever way you look at it, you loose.

Fortunately, with a lot of patience and got enchants and technique, this quest is entirely soloable - including the dark vault btw.

figuring out the lay of hte land and the quests is the hard part - also the instance resets if you take too long to run back.
Other than that, pretty straightforward fights. When I pulled 2 groups accidentally, outcome was 50-50...

Loot is so-so, depending how you look at the greens and whether you're skinning, rep grinding and such. Currently on my server,
the small brilliant shard is worth exactly nothing, the large brilliant shard is good loot if you are an enchanter.
Lots of runecloth to be had here.

Anyhow I'll be crawling around this place for a little longer.

Btw. I assume pallies can pull off the same but no other class at 58. But then all of the other classes can go to the regular PuG
and get their keys done 'normally'.

Comment by Allakhazam

This quest is not sharable too.

Comment by Allakhazam

after you kill lord incidious run to other end of ramp there youll fight some fire elementals the u can go to fd chamber he has a bunch of golemes around him take out left side first then pull him back on to ramp. after u get iron fell off him, you need to run thru ring of law on the top side and go to shrine go right, down the hall to the end, shrine is there at end. and tada shadow forge key! lol not easy by no means but doable :)

Comment by Allakhazam

In order to get this quest, you must talk to the NPC outside of the instance while dead. You can only see him in ghost form.

Comment by Allakhazam

Searching the ruins outside BRM and I can't find this statue. Where do I bring Ironfel?

Oh nevermind, it's the Shrine of Thaurissan, nvm.

Edited, Mon May 29 13:33:26 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

hi i play in a private server
this means many things dont work and even if they do, well u cant be sure, and there re not many players to ask and get help

problem?
i cannot enter BRD after entering BRM etc, through the portal that is located between the numbers 1,2 on this map:
i m coming from the side of number 1.
cannot enter means i go towards the portal and its like going towards a wall, only u can see through the portal)

question?
does it need a quest for that or another trigger?

another?
"you must talk to the NPC outside of the instance while dead"
obviously u mean the instance of "shadowforge city" right? or not?
(never been there so i cannt be sure)

u ve got to be kidding me?
when do you personally choose to die? exactly when?

i am a highest lvl miner, and blacksmith and as u can imagine not entering BRD is a pretty big problem
thnx a lot plz respond if u can help

Edited, Sat Jan 21 21:50:21 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

Level 70 mage, solod the quest. Hardest part was the arena...

Edited, Feb 26th 2008 11:13pm by ReeperSniper

Comment by Allakhazam

Posted by Zero260 on 2005-03-16 00:36:28
Obviously as stated so far, get the quest by being a ghost and visiting the tomb to talk to the questgiver.

* Once you have the quest, enter the instance and clear the large room with the 3-dog patrols and dwarves to make your way straight across.
* Make your first left in the next hallway to enter the arena. You will fight several Kodo-type beasts (sheepable) and a named insect/arachnid. Once this is complete, you will have turned the mobs above non-aggressive.
* Go through the west tunnel and up the stairs.
* At the top, turn to your right and you'll see another flight of stairs to you right.
* Go up those stairs and you'll enter the spectator area of the arena.
* Go around the arena and exit the other side.
* In here clear your way to a small flight of stairs that lead down and proceed out (don't go up the other flight).
* Ahead, take a left (to the right is the statue that you turn in Ironfel to) and cross a bridge where you'll be ambushed by 2 dwarves.
* Kill the remaining 2 fire elementals and proceed.
* To the right is the vault (if you have 11 Relic Coffer Keys in your party you can complete "Heart of the Mountain").
* The 2nd right is where Fineous Darkvire is. He walks around so kill the golems and dwarves until you make your way to him. Loot him for Ironfel.
* Now backtrack past the vault, across the bridge, and go straight. You'll run into two camps of mobs and see the statue ahead.

Gratz! You now have the Shadowforge Key.

Edited, Sat Jun 25 16:37:21 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

In the "Ring of Law" u have to beat the arena and when your done the dwarves wont attack u.

Comment by Allakhazam

OMG, this game is so hilarious. It never ceases to amuse me in the use of names. Franclorn Forgewright? Sounds like Frank Lloyd Wright (famous architect)

Comment by Allakhazam

I made the same mistake in assuming that you placed ironfel on the statue in the ruins in burning steppes... I didn't have ironfel, but my mage buddy did. wasted alot of time out there for nothing. the statue is after a miniboss on the upper level of the ring of law (above the arena) getting to that point is easy, its getting to fineous again that I am having trouble with.

Comment by Allakhazam

where is the statue?

Comment by Allakhazam

man where the #$%^ is Shrine of Thaurissan ?inside BRD?

Comment by Allakhazam

Hehe, I did this quest at level 70 for the fun of it with my Paladin. Because you're level 70, you can skip nearly all the mobs besides the Arena event without getting aggroed.Even at the Shrine itself where Pyromancer whatshisname was there with his 2 cronies. I was actually able to walk right beside them (hugging the wall of course) and 'talk' to the statue and complete the quest without them even aggroing me at all. Although, I did kill them all after I was done just for fun. :D

Comment by Allakhazam

is there anyway to recover this key ?

Comment by Allakhazam

11000 XP at level 53 since they revamped the leveling system for pre60 preBC quests. Definately easy and worth doing.

Comment by supercharge

I read through a lot of these, none seemed to answer the question of WHERE to get the quest.

The tomb is suspended in the middle of Blackrock Mountain - you have to be DEAD to interact with the guy who gives you the quest.

Comment by Furydeath

Good luck getting this if you playing hard core

Comment by SlapMyAshe

For hardcore players, the spot where you would normally pick this quest up, this is a clickable, lit brazier in the corner of the room that lets you speak to the NPC to get this quest. You don't have to die for it!

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Dark Iron Legacy

Slay Fineous Darkvire and recover the great hammer, Ironfel. Take Ironfel to the Shrine of Thaurissan and place it on the statue of Franclorn Forgewright.

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You will find Fineous Darkvire beyond the Ring of Law, in the Hall of Crafting. Kill the miserable cur and recover Ironfel.

Take Ironfel to the Shrine of Thaurissan and place the hammer in its rightful place: In the hands of the statue erected in my honor.

When this is done, the compartment in which I stored the master key will open. More importantly, Ironfel will remain forever in my grasp. Should they make an attempt to remove the hammer; both the statue and hammer will shatter, lost forever.

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