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Comentado por Allakhazam

where the heck do you get this from, cause the trainer ain't showin me.

Comentado por Thottbot

Deriguer for the frost spec mage, also good for hybrids because of the icy chill that slows the enemy mob/player. :P

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not that great of damage but very good if ur talent was frost chill effect then crit (a very high crit.....but the fire is higher but the frost is more of a technitian way)

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IceMages own

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you're just a %^&*!@ if you have t3 on a belf mage at lvl 70. nuff said. and there's no way you can crit that high, and as the other one say... a lot of those items dont even stack. For example you can't use the zg trinket together with other +dmg trinkets

and some maths:

Arcane bonus - Mind Mastery increases spell dmg by 25% of total intellect

Frostfire Regalia = 313 spell dmg (177 int)
Gladiator's War Staff = 199 spell dmg (35 int)
Superior Wizard Oil = 42 spell dmg
Zandalarian Hero Charm (use) = 204 spell dmg
(did I forget to mention you can't stack +dmg trinkets? btw there's atleast 4 trinkets in your description, so unless you're totally overpowered that is impossible, since you only can equip 2 trinkets)
Icon of the Silver Crescent = 43 spell dmg
Flask of Supreme Power = 70 spell dmg
Enchant Weapon - Sunfire = 50 spell dmg
Priest Improved Prayer of Spirit = 10% of spirit. Frostfire has 49 spirit total. 49 * 0.1 = 5 spell damage
Arcane Intellect = 40 int

Base intellect = ~150
Gear and buff intellect bonus = 252
Total Intellect = 252 + 150 = 402 + Arcane Mind (15% increase) = 462 Intellect (~8800 mana) = 115 spell damage

1041 spell damage + power infusion (20%) = 1249

Your Total Fire Spell Damage = 1249

Conclusion: You're full of crap

You failed!

Comentado por Thottbot

No offense or anything, I'm just a little curious, what do you mean by all these items and buffs are only stackable if you got a BloodElf Mage? If that's what you said? I'm just wondering if there is any reason it would not work for the other races.

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seems unlikely enough...dont tell me u went to nax at lvl 70 and got frostfire almost instantly -.-
i honestly dont know why you would lie but it seems so unreal oO

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If you chould post a picture of your Mage making such a crit, having all those buffs stacked or showing all your gear and so on I bet it would end this discussion! :D (and no, I'm not trying to make problems for you, just exited to see a real Mage out there)

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Actually tell us your charachter name, and we can check, also a pic, and then buff yourself and logout so we can check your buffs in armory simple lol...

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> its got fair intellect
> excellent +spell damage
> excellent healing+ ]

I pity your stupidity... Are you even aware of what these stats mean? Oh and since when have mages had any healing spells? Just curious, I can't seem to find any in my mage's spellbook.

Oh and NO Frostfire doesnt have "excellent" spell damage, it doesnt even have mediocre spell damage... Almost every single tbc item has better stats than each Frostfire piece, and that, my friend, is a fact.

Comentado por Thottbot

I find a lvl 70 troll mage named bloodlust and he/she is on Sen´jin, looket at the Armory
the 24 o fjune at 22.00 ( swedish time )
No bf mage at lvl 70 =/

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spellplay laid some troll bait and u all fell for it Xd

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Spell, go learn a language called english first...

Ok now we can talk.Oh wait we can't.Everything you say is BULL*!@#.You can't crit 28k ap+pom+(trinket) pyro, UNLESS it's on that boss that takes 200% more dmg or like...I got a 11k mortal strike on it.

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Spellplay=fail

Can't say your name is any better ^_^
Since you can't make any arguments you start insulting my thottbot name?hmm mkay...

At the above, yeah he fails...I also searched armory and didn't find this guy (both europe/usa)..

Go back to your private server.

Comentado por Thottbot

k soo here is what a frostbolt would look like with a bunch of frost talents (you may or may not take em but these would effectem. I left out maybe one or 2.

when u cast a frost bolt and it hits these would be applied:

+2 to frost crit debuff that stacks
-50% speed for 12 sec
+6%dmg
+5%dmg
15% chance of freeze in place for 5 sec (if they are frozen in place they have a +50% chance of being crit)
+100% crit dmg if it happens(crits are basically 1.5x dmg so these would be 2x dmg)
+5% to crit strike of frostbolt
+10% bonus spell dmg to frostbolt
It cost 15% less mana
Has -10% threat
Has 36 yard range
2.5 second casting time

this spell is effected by a bunch. A lot of those talents are really good tho you might not think so. I didn't list them because that would take too long. Just look at the talents list

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Been thinkin bout rerollin a mage, seeing as being a rogue can kinda suck ass finding groups wise. I just cant decide between mage and warlock..... Could anybody post me sum links to some good videos for both that could sway my mind? (i rolled all my high lvl chars after i watched videos of that class, for example saw the pally dps video and made a paladin, saw sum shadowstep stuff and rolled a rogue etc.)

Also that fire mage who claims he has that 2.7k + spell damage, despite what everone else says, if u really WERE that good, why would you be wasting your time on a wow fan site and not raiding?

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locks are over powered, everyone has one now-a-days. mages pwn.

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Um does this actually exist?

On the trainer Frostbolt seems not to have a lvl 14 trainable.

Is this a book drop type spell or something?

Comentado por Thottbot

Hey Ive made a level 29 twink mage but not sure what spec i should choose i want to PWN everything but would like some help what spec

Thanks to who ever replies

Comentado por Thottbot

dont twink for 29 its nots there good lvls i would go for the 30's

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this guy says he crit for 20k with forstbolt thats bull^&*! i've seen soul fire crit for 17k but that was fully buffed with flasks,power infushion and trinketed on a warrior in bezzerker stance using death wish

Comentado por Thottbot

hahaha that whole discussion made me laugh lol...what an idiot. hahahaha

: <------ amused

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thottbot has rank 14 frostbolt listed, in game, my rank 13 frostbolt is 636-686, or something close to that, so I believe thottbot messed up somewhere :).

Comentado por Thottbot

Without Talents Frostbolt rank 13 dmg: 600 - 647, also without spelldmg orso.

Dunnoes at what you are looking Menzir. Maybe with talents orso.

Comentado por Thottbot

Wow, this thread is filled with alot of BS that has NOTHING to do with frostbolt. I'll try and make a productive one.

This Rank 14 Frostbolt, is much like the Fireball. It is only trainable to level 13 at your trainer, and there will be a book, that will drop from a future instance in the game. You cannot get to rank 14 at the moment.

Comentado por Thottbot

gah thx for info about frostbolt rank 14.. I read the comments and wft.. nothing about frostbolt just some crap about spelldmg and t3 ^^

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ppl is this a frostbolt thread, or i am mistakin' it for some dude that's playn' with ya'?... come on ppl you must be real that idiot is wasting time and web space! so all in all this rank 14 is like a book drop from what i read from the post above wich was written by an idiot who thaught this was a frostbolt rank 14 thread... just like me

Comentado por Thottbot

Worked a bit tonight on sorting out the damage output of different builds.

This DO take into account +spell dmg, critical strikes, clearcasting, talents and other nice stuff and its made by letting a computer go through 1 million simulations (to neutralize random errors). So its fairly accurate.

It does not take into account hit rating, trinkets or talents like arcan power that temporarily boost damage output.

So, buff up that Arcane Intellect and digest these digits. I have posted equivalent on arcane blast here on thottbot, of course on the arcane blast page.

DPS = Damage per second
DPM = Damage per mana

The talents I link are just as a hint of what I used to get these results. You may give a crap about water elemental or the ice barrier. The damage should still be about the same.

Frost - frost - frost - frost
(24% crit with frostbolt, 981 +spelldmg, rank 13 frostbolt, etc etc)
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/mage/talents.html?2030050000000000000000000000000000000000000000535220310235010251551

Frostbolt(no clearcasting)
Without winters chill
DPS 832.5
DPM 7.42

With Winters Chill
DPS 899.5
DPM 8.01
Frostbolt (AM at clearcasting)
Without winters chill
DPS 797
DPM 8.69

With Winters Chill
DPS 851
DPM 9.31
Frostbolt (frostbolt at clearcasting)
Without winters chill
DPS 832.5
DPM 8.23

With Winters Chill
DPS 900.7
DPM 8.99

(updated 28 nov 2007)

Comentado por Thottbot

About that pom pyro... check http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=44883 and say you cant possibly reach 20k pyro anyway again... it should be around 1:50 (you didnt think about how much dmg you can get more by using spellsteal)

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