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Commentaire de 435680

Une fois la P1 passée ( de manière stable ), clairement, c'est WIn en 10 joueurs. Quelques coups à prendre pour faire un carnage dans les portails, c'est tout.
En raid 25 vaut mieux être préparé et organisé :o

Commentaire de GhostRoxxor

Très dur en 25 il faut savoir jouer et organisée comme le dit nervusdum ^^

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Commentaire de locriani

A BRIEF HISTORY:
Many centuries after the Old Gods were chained beneath the earth, a race known as the Sithilid began to appear in areas as remote as the Barrens. Intrepid adventurers eventually discovered the history behind the War of the Shifting Sands, and determined the best course of action would be to stop the impending invasion before it began.

With the aid of many allies, the leader of these heroes was able to reassemble the Scepter of the Shifting Sands, and, in a single resounding moment, forced the insects to begin the invasion into the waiting armies of Azeroth. Once the invasion was routed, these adventurers went into the ancient Temple of Ahn'Qiraj to discover, to their horror, the Old God C'thun lying in wait.

These agents of the Bronze Dragonflight were able to finally vanquish C'thun, but only about a year of rest was allowed before whispers of awakening pointed towards the revival of the Old God Yogg-Saron. Once the Northern Expedition (including the floating city of Dalaran) was successful in combating the servants of the Lich King in Naxxramas and in stopping the crazed antics of Malygos, leader of the Blue Dragonflight, they turned to the whispers of corruption and maddness seeping from Ulduar.

Eventually, these adventurers discovered the corruption of Loken, and his treachery and lies leading to the enslavement of the Keepers of Ulduar, and the corruption of the various wardens of the Titans. With the aid of Brann Bronzebeard and the Kirin Tor, these heroes were able to break through the defenses of this Titan City into the prison of the Old God. After a titanic effort, and using the aid of the freed Keepers, the champions of the Kirin Tor were able to vanquish yet another Old God - this Beast of a Thousand Maws.

The agents of the Kirin Tor may have ended Yogg-Saron's reign of terror - but these same adventurers still have many challenges yet to prevent the destruction of the world.

Commentaire de 167903

Sara

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If someone got all the Yogg'saron files out, it would be nice to put it below here.

Commentaire de 128242

Okay, let's clear up some of this confusion about the Old Gods. As someone pointed out earlier, the history on them is rather sketchy, and has been retconned several times just since the release of World of Warcraft. The original lore regarding the Old Gods was that they were the first rulers of Azeroth, along with their elemental servants. The Titans, in their crusade to bring order to the Universe, defeated the Old Gods and banished them deep beneath the surface of Azeroth. 5 of them are known to exist, three of which were imprisoned, and two of which were thought to have been killed. C'Thun is one of the latter, who escaped death and imprisonment but was left nearly powerless in the barrens of Silithus. The beast slain in the Master's Glaive was *assumed* to be the other missing Old God.

Wrath of the Lich King changed up lore a bit. Rather than the Old Gods being first on Azeroth, they came after the Titans had created the mortal races and claimed it as their own, bestowing the "Curse of Flesh" that made the mortal races the way they appear today. The Titans returned and that's when they banished the Old Gods. It has not been established in WotLK how many Old Gods there actually were, so the number is still assumed to be 5, but it is unlikely they killed any of them, as there appears to be some reasoning why the Titans left the Old Gods alive. With that knowledge, and considering how important the Old Gods have become in lore, I severely doubt the beast slain the Master's Glaive ends up being an Old God, even if that was originally what he was meant to be.

So let's take a final tally.

1. C'Thun - killed in WoW, presumed dead in lore.
2. Yogg-Saron - appears to be killable, unknown if lore will hold that up.
3. An Old God appears to be responsible for the Nightmare affecting the Emerald Dream.
4. An Old God is presumed to have allied with the Naga, who gave them their current appearance. He is likely located within the Maelstrom.
5. Neltharion was likely driven mad by one of the Old Gods. Whether this was one we know about or not is unknown. Considering he now dwells deep below Grim Batol in caverns unknown by the dwarves, he could be having tea and crumpets with that Old God as we speak.

So is that our five? Hard to say. It's long been held that one of the Old Gods lived deep within Azjol-Nerub, but more than likely that's just Yogg-Saron pre-retcon. One could also be imprisoned within Uldum, but there is no evidence of that, it just makes sense considering its sister-site Ulduar is a prison. More information that one needs to know? Of course, but I was bored.

Commentaire de Legendary231

The general idea behind hurting Yogg-Saron (hitting him until his brain is exposed) reminds me quite a bit of a certain mad scientist from the Lylat system.

Might just be me though.

Commentaire de WaxPaper

Because they're all inspired from Cthulhu mythology. ;)

Commentaire de 342593

I didn't think it was possible, but blizzard actualy came up with a creature uglier then C'thun

Commentaire de 302927

No its one of the old Gods that was killed. If i remember correctly it involved the war of the ancients.

Commentaire de 266285

Here's a list of his quotes (obtained from wowwiki.com)

Phase One (Sara):
The time to strike at the head of the beast will soon be upon us! Focus your anger and hatred on his minions!
Yes! YES! Show them no mercy! Give no pause to your attacks!
Let hatred and rage guide your blows!

Player dies (Sara):
Could they have been saved?
Powerless to act...

Phase One wipe (Sara):
Weak-minded fools!

Transforming (Phase Two):
Sara: I am the lucid dream.
Sara: The monster in your nightmares.
Sara and Yogg-Saron: The fiend of a thousand faces.
Sara and Yogg-Saron: Cower before my true form.
Yogg-Saron: BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH!

Phase Two (Sara):
Tremble mortals before the coming of the end!
Suffocate upon your own HATE!

Killing a player:
Eternal suffering awaits!

Whispers to insane players:
Your will is no longer you own...
Destroy them minion, your master commands it!

Creating a vision:
MADNESS WILL CONSUME YOU!

Lich King vision:
Prisoner: AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Lich King: Your resilience... is admirable...
Prisoner: *Choking* I... AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU!
Lich King: I will break you as I broke him.
Yogg-Saron: He will learn, no king rules forever! Only death is eternal!
Yogg-Saron: <foreign language>

Demon Soul vision:
Neltharion: It is done... All have been given that which must be given. I now seal the Dragon Soul forever...
Ysera: That terrible glow, should that be?
Neltharion: For it to be as it must, yes.
Malygos: It is a weapon like no other... It must be like no other.
Yogg-Saron: His brood learned their lesson before too long, you shall soon learn yours!

The Assassination of King Llane:
Yogg-Saron: A thousand deaths; or one murder.
Yogg-Saron: Your petty quarrels only make me stronger!
Garona Halforcen: Bad news sire. The clans are united under Blackhand in this assault.
Garona Halforcen: They will stand together until Stormwind has fallen. Gul'dan is bringing up his warlocks by nightfall. Until then the Blackrock clan will be trying to take the eastern wall.
King Llane: We will hold until the reinforcements come. As long as men with stout hearts are manning the walls and throne Stormwind will hold.
Garona Halforcen: The orc leaders agree with your assessment.

Phase Three start:
Look upon the true face of death and know that your end comes soon!

Casting Lunatic Gaze:
Hoohehehahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Death:
Your fate is sealed. The end of days is finally upon you and ALL who inhabit this miserable little seedling! Uulwi ifis halahs gag erh'ongg w'ssh.

Commentaire de igoralive

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Yogg- Saron

Commentaire de 356402

World first kill (25 man) by Ensidia on 19/04/09.

Commentaire de 90123

Neltharion is not an old god. Neltharion(aka Deathwing) is one of the Dragon Aspect so while very old and powerful not an old god. He has yet to be writen into the story(yet very likely will be abd killable). The one Darkshore is likely not an Old god due to the other 4 not killed obviously the Titans did not have the power to kill them but mearly contain them. What is Algalon, a titan that was the "jailor" of Yogg or was he something else? Anyway with 2 down I am sure one has something to do with Malestrom(probally the next logical expansion), one might pop up in 3.2 with the release of Gilneas (land south of silverpine forest) and probally one later in the emerald dream that causes the nightmare that resides there and created the nightmare dragons.

Commentaire de 238363

The spell you're referring to is Destabilization Matrix.

Commentaire de cobo4231

They're no 100% reliable evidence of that being an Old God. Most descriptions tag it as being a servant of the old gods. And in case you're referencing the quest "The Master's Glaive", Onu only refers to it as one of "the old, old lords of the earth. Lords defeated long ago.", which could just as easily apply to the elemental lieutenants of the Old Gods. The Devs in general don't seem interested in telling us what the creature in Darkshore was (same thing with the massive naga-like skeletons in Desolace).

Commentaire de Tekunin

Phase 1: Sara

The green clouds in the room will spawn Guardian of Yogg-Saron by themselves randomly, or by a player stepping into them. They will cast Dark Volley on the raid, which must be interrupted

* Dark Volley - Hurls missiles of dark magic, inflicting Shadow damage and wounding nearby enemies, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 25% for 10 sec. 1.5 sec cast.

Sara will cast a several random buffs and debuffs, the most annoying being:

* Dominate Mind - Dominates the mind of the target, temporarily placing them under Yogg-Saron's control. Also reduces Sanity by 4%.

Guardian of Yogg-Saron explodes for heavy AoE damage. Killing them near Sara damages her. It takes 8 Guardian of Yogg-Saron in order to kill Sara to enter Phase 2.

Bloodlust/Heroism at the end of Phase 1 in order to help quickly clean up any left over Guardian of Yogg-Saron.

Phase 2: Yogg-Saron

Yogg-Saron emerges and cannot be damaged.

Yogg-Saron's Abilities

Each player in the raid will gain a sanity buff that begins at a stack of 100. If at any time this stack reaches 0, the player will become permanently mind controlled by Yogg-Saron and obviously must be killed. In order to endure the fight, you must use the Sanity Wells that appear around the room - these are large columns of green light.

* Sanity Well - Standing in the well brings you back to your senses, regenerating 20% Sanity every 2 sec. Damage done is reduced by 50% while you remain in the well.

Yogg-Saron will use the following abilities throughout Phase 2. They will not be casted on players who are in Yogg-Saron's Mind.

* Psychosis - Inflicts 7500 Shadow damage. Also reduces Sanity by 9%.

* Malady of the Mind - Inflicts 5000 Shadow damage and causes the enemy target to run in horror for 4 sec, then attempts to jump to another enemy within 10 yds. Also reduces Sanity by 3%.

* Brain Link - Links the brains of two enemy targets. This is the main threat to a player's sanity. Afflicted targets suffer 3000 Shadow damage and lose 2% Sanity every 1 sec. whenever they are more than 20 yards apart. Lasts 30 seconds. When the two players are too far from each other, the beam turns read; However when they are close, the beam turns yellow indicating what the debuff is doing. Either player entering Yogg-Saron's Mind will safely break Brain Link.

The /range window built into Deadly Boss Mods is a must for this fight for Brain Link and Malady of the Mind.

***Yogg-Saron's Tentacles***

Immediately following the transition into Phase 2, Yogg-Saron will begin spawning various types of tentacles:

* Crusher Tentacles - Channels Diminished Power on the raid, causing the raid to do 20% less damage while un-tanked. It gains a stacking buff which increases it's damage every time it is hit by direct damage. The tank should run in and out to avoid putting extra stacks on it themself, and call for DPS to stop once the damage is too high in order to let the buff fall off.

* Constricting Tentacles - Randomly spawn under a player, picking them up and immobilizing them, preventing them from casting most spells. The player also suffers damage over time. It must be killed in order to release the player.

* Corruptor Tentacles - Have moderate health and casts random, dispellable debuffs on players in the raid. Atrophy, a movement snare; A short duration Curse of Doom; Various Mana Draining, Health Draining and Stunning poisons. All casts can be interrupted, they can also be stunned.

Ranged DPS should kill Crusher Tentacles while melee kill the Constricting Tentacles, and especially the Corruptor Tentacles in order to interrupt and stun them to prevent them from casting their plethora of debuffs.

Yogg-Saron's Mind

Periodically throughout the fight, a raid warning will alert you to portals opening which send you into Yogg-Saron's mind. A group of DPS and a healer should be assigned to enter these portals.

Raid Warning: "Portals open into Yogg-Saron's mind!"

Once inside you will be in one of three events in Azeroth's past that Yogg-Saron has influenced. (Stormwind, Wyrmrest Temple or Icecrown Citadel). You must kill the tentacles which are the NPCs until a raid warning states "The illusion shatters and a path to the central chamber opens!". While destroying these tentacles, the group will take aoe damage from beacons located around the room as you pass them. These will also reduce your sanity by 2%.

After the tentacles have been taken care of, the path to the central chamber, "The Mind's Eye" opens, which contains Yogg-Saron's brain. Also, all tentacles in the normal realm (outside of Yogg-Saron's Mind) become stunned and will stop attacking and using all abilities for a short time.

Raid Warning: "The illusion shatters and a path to the central chamber opens!"

Yogg-Saron's Brain has 6,860,000 HP and begins casting Induce Madness as soon as you enter his mind.

* Induce Madness -Drives all nearby targets insane, reducing Sanity by 100%.

Portals outside of his mind are spread around his room. You must be quick to dispose of the tentacles and shatter the illusion so as to get as much DPS time in on the brain as possible, so you can take the portal out of his mind before he finishes casting Induce Madness.

Once Yogg-Saron's Brain reaches 30% HP, his shield will fade and his HP will drop dramatically (from around 55,000,000 to a more manageable 18,000,000). All tentacles will cease to spawn, and the raid must clean up any remaining tentacles.

Phase 3: Immortal No More

Immortal Guardians will begin to spawn every 10 seconds, which have only drain life as an ability. They also spawn with a buff stack which increases their size and damage done. As they take damage, this buff will decrease making them vulnerable to Thorim's "Titan Strike" ability which kills them. Otherwise, as suggested by their name, they cannot be killed.

When an Immortal Guardian becomes low on health, Yogg-Saron will begin to channel Empowering Shadows:

* Empowering Shadows - Empowers friendly units within 20 yds. of the target, causing them to regenerate 750,000 health over 20 sec. Instant cast.

Once this spell finishes channeling, the target Immortal Guardian and any friendly units to it within 20 yards, including Yogg-Saron himself, will heal for a hefty amount. The adds must be tanked so that Yogg-Saron, and preferably other adds, do not benefit from this buff. You must kill Immortal Guardians before Empowering Shadows is finished casting.

Yogg-Saron will periodically channel Lunatic Gaze:

* Lunatic Gaze - Looking into the maw of madness unhinges your mind, inflicting 5700 to 6300 Shadow damage and reducing Sanity by 4% every 1 sec. for as long as you are facing the caster.

The Immortal Guardians should be tanked so that DPS can damage them while facing away from Yogg-Saron while he channels Lunatic Gaze.

Due to the 15 minute berserk timer, adds may need kept busy to focus Yogg.

Commentaire de Dongolev

For the "Beast with a thousand maws", he must eat a lot.

Yogg-Saron yells: OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM

Commentaire de warlakos

I'm sure this will be downrated in a few secs for lack of indepth explanation but 2p inc!:p

Cthun= Kalimdor
Yogg saron= Northrend
Unknown 1 likely to be in if not linked to maelstrom
Unknown 2 likely to be in if not linked to emerald dream 'nightmare'
Unknown 3 would be the only one which from lack of lore would be a greater guess, though I will make one ^^, most lore says that most have gone insane and evil:O (inc massive logic jump) so this must mean 1 or more isnt? the old god linked to the maelstrom appears to me to be 1 such old god, its likely that the last Old god is in the region of the south of the eastern kingdoms, or at least the eastern kingdoms.

On a side note BFD is close the barrow dens that druids use to enter the emerald dream no? is it not plausable that IF an old god is responsible for the 'nightmare' that it is the Old god that is eluded to be in BFD?:o

Commentaire de 147680

who is is this sara?

Commentaire de 226994

Uhm, i don't believe that the death's quote of YS is referred to the fact that there is something worst then them, remember that:

The Titans determined that if the Old Gods were destroyed, it would devastate Azeroth. Instead, the Titans kept the Old Gods alive and imprisoned them beneath Azeroth.

The final yell of Yogg-Saron before his death is possibly linked to this: defeating (killing) the Old Gods the world will be destroyed (we don't know in which way, maybe the disappearing of the Curse of Flesh would be so deadly?), so maybe defeating them we are unconsciously making their game? Only the time will answer us.

Commentaire de Nivago

Well, now we'll wait third titan's instance - Uldum (entrance in Tanaris, there is a questchain about it, starts in the end of Uldaman). Quite interesting what will be there (plus that hole in the front door, maybe some God escaped >.> Not very big though ^^)

Commentaire de Shorty

Don't say another Goddamn word. Up until now, I've been polite. If you say anything else - word one - I will kill myself. And when my tainted spirit finds its destination, I will topple the master of that dark place. From my black throne, I will lash together a machine made of blood and bone, and fueled by my hatred for you this fear engine will bore a hole beween this world and that one. When it begins you will hear the sound of children screaming - as though from a great distance. A smoking orb of nothing will grow above your bed, and from it will emerge a thousand starving crows. As I slip through the widening maw in my new form, you will catch only a glimpse of my radiance before you are incinerated. Then, as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my face, my dark work will begin. I will open one of my six mouths, and I will sing the song that ends the Earth.

Key part bolded, considering Yogg's 'head' is covered in mouths.

Source: PA

Commentaire de 18090

Demon Soul vision:
Neltharion: It is done... All have been given that which must be given. I now seal the Dragon Soul forever...
Ysera: That terrible glow, should that be?
Neltharion: For it to be as it must, yes.
Malygos: It is a weapon like no other... It must be like no other.
Yogg-Saron: His brood learned their lesson before too long, you shall soon learn yours!

you can actually hear Yogg-Saron's voice with Neltharion's when he talks thru this scene, similar to the transition to phase 2 with Sara. Leads me to believe it was Yogg-Saron that influenced Neltharion into making the dragon soul

Commentaire de 32405

As someone who has actually done the yogg-saron fight id like to mention that in the Arthas vision, you an see arthas strangling a human, and when 'him' is mentioned a shadowy figure of an orc appears and salute arthas. my theory is that the human is none other then bolvar and the orc is Saurfang the younger, both of whom are presumed dead in the betrayal at the wrathgate.

and i'd also like to mention that all of the visions are something that yogg was involved with, too some extent yogg is probably corrupting arthas, as well as the corruption from nerz'hul

Commentaire de ltc3

anyone know when loot info coming out?

Commentaire de 190718

During phase 1 the adds come in intervals.

First add is at 10 seconds from the start of the encounter. The next 3 come in 20 second intervals, after those 3 the next 3 begin to spawn in 15 seconds intervals, after those 3 the rest of the guardians come in 10 second intervals.

To clarify: 10 seconds into the encounter > 30 seconds > 50 seconds > 1:10 minutes > 1:25 minutes > 1:40 minutes > 1:55 minutes > 2:05 minutes > 2:15 minutes > etc..

Commentaire de ColinatorGX

The Titans did not kill the Old Gods when they came back because the Olg Gods latched on Azeroth like parasites, and were attempting to consume all life in it, and created the "Curse of Flesh" to facilitate the process, weakening Azeroth's mortal races and creations of the titans.
This is most likely the "assimilation" mentioned in the Tribunal of Ages event. Because the Old Gods were now bound to Azeroth, killing them would in no doubt kill the planet as well.

Commentaire de ColinatorGX

Elune is actually said to be the only true godness of Azeroth. The titans are just a cosmically powerfull race that go around shaping worlds.
Edit: In response to lightnstuff.

Commentaire de 238363

The spell you're referring to is Destabilization Matrix.

Commentaire de 237317

I'd hate to be his dentist.

Commentaire de 114746

Yogg-Saron's corruption in Northrend is hugely noticed. To battle the "Curse of Flesh", the Titans created the Rune dwarves and Rune Vrykul, which were immune to this curse, but Yoog was able to slightly corrupt ther minds. He's also responsible for de corruption and, because of that, destruction, of Voldrassil, Northrend's giant tree, found un Grizzly Hills.

Yogg-Saron is a reference to two different Old Gods from Lovecraft's mythology:

Yog-Sothoth, the god of time. (the similarity with the Old God's name)
Shub-Niggurath, the "Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young" (similarity with the "nick", let's call it that way, follows its name)

With C'thun (The Great Cthulhu), the Greater Gods are mentioned, more gods should appear maybe,

Iä, Iä, R'lyeh ftagn

Commentaire de Keshicus

I love the lovecraft reference.

Commentaire de 164292

I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to have this rocking for my Yoggy kills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwr9rDvHxY

Commentaire de Belse

Not sure if this is confirmed, but regarding the vision with the Lich King, the prisoner he is torturing is most likely Bolvar Fordragon (the voice greately resembles his), and apparentely a dark orc sillhoette appears in the end of the vision, hinting that "Him" is most likely Saurfang the Younger. If this is the case, then the background voice is him.

As I said it's more likely that he is refering to Arthas (or maybe even Ner'zul?) since you can hear someone say me when the lich king says him. But with the new lich king book, though I haven't read it, it seems like Arthas is the one in controll making it possible for "him"/"me" to be either Arthas or Ner'zul or (but propably not) both. But if this was the case there would have been someone who would have taken controll over them both so I don't find this very propable.

Edit: just re-read your post and realised you meant that Saurfang the younger was the one who said me. It's not impossible but I don't think this is the case. But everything's possible

Commentaire de 357470

So wait... whats this guy supose to drop?

Commentaire de 282300

Wait... Yogg saron & C'thun both are based on a facial part.
(C'thun being based on the Eye's, Yogg saron based on the mouth.)
So what's next?
The Old God of a Thousand Noses?

Commentaire de 362023

By funshark222
Wait... Yogg saron & C'thun both are based on a facial part.
(C'thun being based on the Eye's, Yogg saron based on the mouth.)
So what's next?
The Old God of a Thousand Noses?

Unleash the power of our imagination :D
there 2 major spottable things about C'thun and Yogg-Saron.

Namely, several sense organs and one internal organ.

for C'thun, there are eyes and a stomach
for Yogg, there are mouths and a brain

these are essential for an organism to live and recieve stimulus, aren't they ?

Now.
there're 5 Old Gods total. 2 are examined.
Logical speculation would be, that the 3 unrevealed Old Gods have others set of sensor organs with an internal organ.

3 remaining primal senses are hearing, smell and touch, but as we don't know what future brings as we lack the sense of forecast xD the details of unrevealed Gods can be far more different.

Major Internal organ that could be used are Heart, Lung... uhmm can't figure out the last one.. for human its kidney.. blah nvmd it.

What i'm trying to depict is that 2 revealed old gods with their organs might be a part of one corrupting uber-organism.

Time will tell.

Commentaire de 148695

Only I have the brains to rule Lylat!

Commentaire de 64407

Ragnaros is not a elemental general, Ragnaros is one of the oldest Gods

Ragnaros's link from WoWwiki.
I'll quote the relevant part: "Ragnaros the Firelord is an incredibly powerful Elemental Lord and master of all fire elementals."

And about the Elf discussion, I'll try to make a clear explanation:

The Night Elves (aka Kaldorei). Their race is ancient and one of the first races on Azeroth.

The Highborne (aka Quel'dorei). A compact group of Night Elves. They were some of the best magicians of Azeroth and considered themselves vastly superior to the other Night Elves.

The Naga. While the Well of Eternity was getting destroyed, Queen Azshara and many of the Highborne became the Naga with the help of an Old God.
The High Elves. The Quel'dorei who helped Tyrande and joined the forces fighting against the Legion. After the Legion was defeated, the Quel'dorei left the Night Elven lands and sailed until they reached the Eastern Kingdoms. When they found the kingdom of Quel'thalas, forgot the Night Elfish Cult of the Moon and started to revere the Sun, their appearances became as we know them today. Today there are few remaining High Elves, most of them being the ones who left Quel'thalas long before the destruction of the Sunwell and who found some other ways to feed themselves with magic (eg. the Moonwell in Stormwind is placed there to feed the High Elves who visit/live in Stormwind).

The Blood Elves (aka Sin'dorei). Blood Elves are the High Elves who became addicted to magic after the Sunwell's destruction (now, as the Sunwell was reborn by the spark of M'uru, this is not the case anymore). 90% of the High Elves became Blood Elves. The main difference between the High Elves and the Blood Elves today is that the first race is part of the Alliance and the second is part of the Horde.

Commentaire de Adreaver

The corruption of Teldrassil is not entirely to blame on any Old God. It simply did not receive the Blessing of the Dragonflights like Nordrassil did, as Neltharion had split them all apart, thus leaving the tree vulnerable to the corruption.

Corruption of Teldrassil is entirely to blame on the hubris of Arch Druid Fandral Staghelm. After the World Tree Nordrassil was destroyed at the end of the third war, he proposed to create a new world tree to restore immortality to the Night Elves.

The dragonflights chose not to have anything to do with Teldrassil due to mortal arrogance, and the corruption that occurred there was the same corruption occurring everywhere else in Azeroth...due to the aftereffects of the Burning Legion.

Commentaire de 356188

From a Hunter's Point of View...

This fight is currently not very pet friendly during phase 2 in the sense that sending in your pet to attack a crusher tentacle will kill it in one hit. Sending in your pet to kill a constrictor tentacle means you have less DPS on a crusher tentacle and as a result a Hunter is only doing 80% of their damage when all cloth casters are doing 100% on a crusher tentacle for ranged DPS.

Commentaire de zapiks44

However, hunter pets really shine during Phase 3 as they're immune to Yogg's Lunatic Gaze ability, so they can freely attack him the whole time. Make sure you keep your pet alive or have Heart of the Phoenix ready when phase 3 starts!

Commentaire de 237317

I did a few calculations...

It would require 91,666,760 seconds to kill Yogg-Saron on Heroic (unscripted) with a Spare Hand - if you never missed, and if he never dodged/blocked/swallowed you whole/parried etc.

That works out to:

-1,527,778 Minutes
-25,463 Hours
-1,061 Days
-2.91 Years

Yeah, that wasn't very insightful, but it was funny... wasn't it?

Commentaire de Fingulfin

Why did the Titans not kill the Old Gods? Direct Quote from the "Tribunal of Ages" found in the Halls of Stone:

Kaddrak: Accessing. Creators arrived to extirpate symbiotic infection. Assessment revealed that Old God infestation had grown malignant. Excising parasites would result in loss of host.

Brann: If they killed the Old Gods Azeroth would have been destroyed.

Kaddrak: Correct. Creators neutralized parasitic threat and contained it within the host. Forge of Wills and other systems were instituted to create new Earthen. Safeguards were implemented and protectors were appointed.

Commentaire de Histeria

Could Yogg-Saron possibly be a relative to the oldest God of all - The Flying Spaghetti Monster ?

Commentaire de novus

Yo dawg, I heard you like teeths. So i put teeths on your teeth so u can eat while u eat.

Commentaire de 64407

No. Actually it implies that Night Elves derive from Trolls. The Trolls and the Nerubians were the first races to have their very own Empires. While they fought each other, one group of Trolls decided to settle along the shores of the Well of Eternity. The Well influenced the group of Trolls making them more smarter, more attuned to arcane magic and also changed the physical appearance making their skin more purple, and the eyes beeing silver lined. Later they called themselves the Kaldorei (the Night Elves).

That's a theory.

Blizzard likes to make the history of WoW be as misterious as possible, so that it resembles the real history (was man created by God? evolved from monkeys?) -> (were Night Elves created by Elune? did they evolve from trolls?).

As you can see, both the (real) human and the night elf creation have a mystic theory and a scientific theory.

If you pay attention to the lore and read the quest texts, you will find quite a bit of those paradoxes. Some say Arthas still lives within the Lich King and fights Ner'zhul. Others say that both Ner'zhul and Arthas are dead and from their souls the Lich King we are fighting was born.

Some say that Gnomes evolved from Dwarfs (can't remember where I red this, in some early quest anyway). In Northrend we find out that Gnomes were created by the Titans (they must've been bored :P).

Those twists within the lore are just Blizzard's attempt to make the game more intresting, and at least for me it works ^^

Edit - Reply to Volcan: Yh, I see the irony, but in WoW magic is not such a big bad deal like in the real world. It's like some kind of science, a science who constantly evolves and shifts.
So, at least from my point of view, being evolved with the help of a incredibly strong source of magic sounds more scientific then being created by the big good shiny Godess of the Moon. ^^

Commentaire de mixter

Not long ago, the priests of Hakkar the Soulflayer succeeded in summoning their hungry god physically into Azeroth. Worse, C'Thun has awakened, freed itself, and reemerged from the planet's depths. Many valiant heroes are banding together in the hope of defeating these two evil GODS.

from wow encyclopedia

i count 3 old gods: yogg, c'thun, hakkar.
and 2 more unknown ones

not sure if elune counts or not btw

Commentaire de 100144

Guardians of Yogg Saron will spawn if a pet runs through it, tested 12-05/2009.
Hope this helps anyone.

Commentaire de 225904

It is known that hakkar was a creature who was mind controling, that is also what drove the trolls of Zul'Gurub into madness. But it was never said that he was a god, also said by the trolls on the freindly island that he was a fake, he was surposed to be the one saving the trolls from a greater evil, foretold by a prophet but the trolls on the island discovered that he was merely a fake god who was mindcontrolling the Gurubashi tribe.

That be said, no one knows where hakkar and his serpent minions came from but, as mentioned earlier in the comments, the old gods where older than most races on azeroth and where banished by the titans, and c'thun and another old god the olny ones who escaped the crusade of the titans. thus they would not openly expose them self with the conviction that they could not be harmed. Now Hakkar and his serpent minions could very well be of the same concept as the nagas and the night elves just with trolls instead and another one of the old god, but hakkar is NOT one of the old gods.

The count is more like

Known: C'thun(escaped the Crusade of the titans but was left in tanaris deadly injured where he corrupted the bugs and gave them knowlege and inteligence and inreturn threated him as a the god he was). Yogg'saron(was imprisoned by the crusade of the titans in ulduar, a fortress built for the sole purpose to keep him locked away for eternity, but the God somehow corrupted the gaurdians of ulduar creating a giant army to help him with his evil plans.)

Unknown: There was 3 other old gods(could have been alot more but we only know of the 5)
One is said to be imprisoned in the emerald dream by the gaurdians of cenarious and the druids who after 10 of thousands of years forgot what the emerald dream was for in the first place, there fore some how the emerald dream was also corrupted, becoming a place of destrucktion and horror in stead of life and peace as it was before)
Another is said to be imprisoned/hiding in the malestrom where it mutated a group of night elves into the nagas as we know them today, very little is known of this beast other than that the nagas who stayed in the depths of the malestrom is said to still be worshipping him)
The last one there is very limited information on but there are some hints that he might be hiding in grim'batol, corrupting neltharion, or being imprisoned in Uldum, and last but not least be the dead monster in darkshore in the master's glaive. it is unknown where the 5th old god is but it very likely that this part of the lore will be continued.

now for finishing there is alot of lore to build on about the 5 gods who untill now where thought to be dead, but with the discovering of Yogg'saron they might still be arround hiding in the world of azeroth. and it is very likely that we are soon to see more of the 5 gods if it's in wow or WC4 or something like that doesn't matter. point is we haven't heard the last of the last 5 old gods.

Commentaire de oekel

Just a comment on the above regarding the creature at the Master's Glaive:

Some Warcraft reference material identifies the creature as a dead 'Forgotten One', so it might just be one of the Old God's servants rather than one of the big guys.

Also, something transformed the ancient night elves into the naga, and that something is likely an Old God located underneath the Maelstrom, in the ocean between Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms.
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The bones you see there are the remains of an Old God, for it was Sargaras who killed him and became corrupt from the energy that came free. This is also why the Old Gods must not die. Entire Azeroth exists because of the existance of the Old Gods. Thus no Old Gods: No Azeroth.

While the Well of Eternity was getting destroyed, Queen Azshara and many of the Highborne became the Naga with the help of an Old God.

It was Queen Azshara who made them and herself Naga.
From wowwiki.com: When the black waters of the Well of Eternity poured into the palace, she created a magical shield that would protect her and the remaining Highborne from drowning.

Commentaire de 366300

Someone mentioned that Yogg-Saron could be responsible for the assassination of king Llane by driving Garona mad. I looked in The Last Guardian and found this "Let me show you my world, Garona," said Medivh. "Let me drive my own divisions and doubts into you. You'll never know who you serve and why. You'll never find your peace." This was done when Khadgar and Garona went to kill the Sargeras possessed Medivh. It is my belief that this lead to Garona following Gul'Dans orders again which would lead to her killing King Llane. Now as someone else said Sargeras could have been corrupted by Yogg-Saron, who then possessed Medivh, who then corrupted/confused Garona. So maybe Yoggy did infact end up killing Llane in some wierd way. But who can say for sure.

It has just occured to me that while Garona was confused due to what Medivh did to her Yogg could have more easily influenced her into killing the King. What the Old God would gain from this is unkown, to me atleast.

Commentaire de 195691

In WC3 RoC, in the Human Campaign, during the Culling of Stratholme, something happened to Arthas. Quote from WoWWiki: "Something snapped in Arthas that day, his inability to stop the plague sent him down the cold lonely road he would soon follow." And at the end, he wonders deep in Northrend and stayed there for some time, being "driven mad by some voice in his mind". Another quote from WoWWiki: "Slaying the dreadlord, Arthas fled into the frozen north, leaving his troops to fend for themselves. Arthas soon lost the last remnants of sanity." It could be only the Lich King but he couldnt have wispered him during the Culling. So with that in mind, maybe Yogg-Saron really did all that and spiced up the lore.

Commentaire de 131361

is it just me or does he look like a giant mutant frog

Commentaire de Cheri

As soon as I saw this boss, I realized that I was going to have to farm for lots of Remedies to deal with Bad Breath.

Commentaire de 211544

He said our world is doomed =(

I wonder what he said when he 'died' , sounded like something from his on tongue...
But, he doesn't have a tongue!...heh...get it ? /pun ...

Commentaire de agentex50

Dabigboss's statment is obviously just his hopes, but that doesnt mean it should be downrated. As long as its not just mindless ranting then it is everything a comment is supposed to be! stop downrating comments just because you arent willing to sit down and get that detailed with something.

Commentaire de 368042

What about the final boss in Uld...the one in Badlands lol forgot name. The final boss in that one...can't remember his name either, been so long, but is he an Old God?

Commentaire de 65309

I noticed somthing in general Vezax's room, there's windows with picture on them.
As i got closer i noticed that those picture had 1 big monster on them, with tentacles and many eye's.
These windows probebly refer all the old gods.
Some of these windows are broken so mabye those broken windows means those Old Gods are dead.
There's also some with an ocean on so mabye that shows the location to some of them.

I dont know if this is relevant to the old gods.

Commentaire de 371202

Does anyone know how many keepers need to be passed up to get hard mode loot?

Commentaire de sagnheiili

I understand this boss is a reference to Lovecraft novels but am I the only who thinks he oozes Metallica reference from every mouth?

"Drain you of your sanity, face the thing that should not be"

Commentaire de starsword

These are the versions of the Keepers who help you fight Yogg-Saron:

Freya
Hodir
Mimiron
Thorim

Commentaire de 215170

Sargeras, if you don't already know, was a titan that went mad trying to defend the universe against the Burning Legion and began leading the masses of demons.

Actually Sargeras made The Burning Legion after becoming mad by all his battles against evil throughout the universe (cf. Nathrezim, pit lords etc)

Commentaire de 382219

You are making me laugh.(not angry anymore)

-The World wasn't created by the Titans,only edited by them.The Old Gods,The Elemental Lords and Their Followers(Trolls,Nerubians and Pandaren.....)were there before the Titans got there.The Titans had the toughest battle,and so one,untill they locked them up.The Titans COULDN'T Kill them,because they were equal in powers.

-The Trolls become Night Elves,wich became Highboune,wich had 2 followers:Naga and High Elves(Blood Elves)
The Nerubians became Faceless ones and Forgotten Gods.

-Yogg-Saron is responsible for Garona's faith,but not responsible for Deathwing.Deathwing went mad after being exposed to Sargeras's Taint in time of his summoning.Sargeras and Deathwing are the only ones who can totally finish off a Old God(I'd Wish that Deathwing could be allied with us,not against us).

-And the 5 Old Gods's location:Shiltidus,Storm Peaks,Maelstorm(100% chance),Grim Batol(25% chance) and The Emerald Dream ( 100000000% chance)

-Deathwing will be a boss in Grim Batol,with a high chance being the last and hardest of the bosses in the game,and after that,only 2 Dragon Aspects will remain sane: Alexstrasza and Nozdromu,because Ysera will go bye-bye because of the Nightmare.

-Teldrasill was corrupted because of the Nightmare...being the second World Tree,and in a future patch,Malfurion will come out of Moonglade...

-The Elemental Lords were only theoretically the Old Gods's Generals.

-New Expansions(Only Hope):
1:The Third Land (Pandaren)
2:The Emerald Dream
3:The Maelstorm
4:The Space...for the Titans.

Seems that we'll wait a long time to see a Titan...

Clear?Ok.Bye!

Commentaire de 152771

Note - Paladin's Seal of Blood/Martyr recoil damage can still kill you even while under the effects of Hodir's Protective Gaze, as there is the slightest delay from said recoil damage.

Commentaire de crosstalk1

The corpses Yogg-Saron eat go through his digestive track, (eww) come out and are pushed up through the earth and called saronite.

Now just think about that every time you mine saronite.

Commentaire de 166696

If you have to tank on P1, do your self a favour and turn the particle density up a notch. Going from minimum to the middle made the Clouds apear twice as big(!) and they became a lot brighter thus where extremely easy to see and follow.

Honestly, I can't imagine how we managed it last week with me being such a liability other than dumb luck.

Commentaire de 277402

I was under the impression that the explanation for why they didn't destroy the Old Gods was still that to do so would destroy Azeroth. I might not be up-to-date on all the new retcons since Wrath came out, but it was my understanding that the Old Gods were still the original "Gods" of primordial Azeroth, lording over their elemental slaves/creations in an endless cycle of warfare and butchery, and that the Titans came along, bribed/threatened/argued the elemental Lords into working with them, defeated and imprisoned the Old Gods because, as the makers of Azeroth, destroying them would destroy the planet, restricted their initial creations, designed primarily as foot soldiers in the Old God war, like the Vyrkul, giants, stormborn and forstborn to Northrend, appointed the Half-Titan Wardens, and then moved on. The curse of flesh, as seen in the Vyrkul cut scenes revealed in the Alliance quest lines of Howling Fjord, came after the Titans had already left, but before Loken's corruption became obvious and so is likely the result of some Old One plot to escape imprisonment, as was, in all likelihood, the premature awakening of the Earthen from their stasis in the vaults under Ironforge, Ulduman, and perhaps Gnomeregan.

The life forms that have been clearly stated to be Titan born so far are the Dwarves, Tauren, humans, and gnomes. I'm not aware of any source that has definitively stated whether or not the Titans created the Trolls, Murlocs, Nerubians/Silithids, or other Beastmen species like the Harpies(though this could be the result of my own ignorance) so it may be that these were originally created by the Old Gods as playthings or soldiers in their war against the Titans and then later modified by the Titans after their victory, (as the Gorlocs claim to have been), or, like the Centaurs, they could be later creations of the Elemental Lords after the Titans left and they began to run riot again. The strong traditions of worship towards the Old God and the Elemental Lords seen in the Nerubian/Silithid species and the numerous Troll tribes would tend to bare this out. One can assume that the Troggs may be a reverse of this; Titan-made dwarves corrupted by the Old Gods.

Commentaire de 330185

Notice how Alexstrazsa burns the whole place to prevent them rising as undead and clearing Putress poison cloud? Could be a reason for the bodies to be gone.

Personally, I think We will see him as a DK maybe in Icecrown.
But He survived The fire cus he threw on his fire resist gear from MC :D

Commentaire de 384974

Mybe within the Emerald Dream an Old God is in prison and the prison lays safe until Ysera wakes up.I thingh we will have a raid instance his dream(mind) or somting befor he/she weaks up and the prison colapse...

Commentaire de cheesechamp

Anybody else wonder about the disturbing lack of tank gear this guy drops?

Commentaire de Ayline

Some say Arthas still lives within the Lich King and fights Ner'zhul.

This argument has no merit,

While he dreamed, Arthas consumed Ner'zhul and banished Matthias Lehner.

Arthas and Ner'zhul are gone. All that remains is the Lich King.

It was in the new Arthas: Rise of the Lich King book.

Commentaire de mixter

no offense DragonKira, but did you even read lore? or at least read what brann bronzebeard says in halls of stone?
first of all the titans and the old gods aren't equal in power, its just that the old gods infected azeroth so much that, if the titans destroyed them, they would destroy azeroth
second: teldrassil was corrupted becouse the night elves grew it to become immortal again and didn't get the dragons blessings
third:naga are fallen highbourne that were turned to amphibians by the maelstrom old god, or something
fourth: why the hell would there be and old god underneath the maelstrom? it was made by the explosion of the well of eternity!and i doubt an old god was hiding underneath there

fifth: there is no fifth statement , i just wana make it 5 >.<

Commentaire de Whacko

A very important note for phase 1 is that totems can activate the green clouds floating around the room and thus spawn a very very high amount of Guardians which most likely will just wipe your raid again and again due to the heavy amount of AoE suddenly on your raid... Don't use totems before Phase 2... and no, it wasn't anybody who was cloud jumping which was the cause of our first 10 wipes... must reroll a blacksmith soon. Good money to be made when there's new raid instances!

Commentaire de 236163

Little bit of trivia:

Yogg-Saron was voiced by Jamieson Price, who also provided the voice for Sartharion, Lu Bu in Dynasty Warriors and Algol in Soul Calibur VI.

Commentaire de 124192

Curiouse now, What about hakkari? and all the "gods" in Zul'drak? I mean, is there any connections? are they like minor old gods? cause even though trolls seem to be the only ones owrshipping them they still seem to be "gods" as they claim, in power and personality

Commentaire de 389944

C'thun / Yogg'Saron are accounted for.

C'thun was left for dead, there's an 'Old Lord' physically "dead" in Darkshore.. (but may exist within the Emerald Dream?)

Three Old Gods were imprisoned: Yogg'Saron, whatver was held within Uldum (? - something seems to have broken out, and is notated by a blue post according to a Wowwiki article on Uldum), and an Old God is perhaps thought to have corrupted Neltharion, but is no longer present in Grim Batol (there are several zones in Kalimdor/Azeroth that have no names - bear that in mind).

Oh, a notation on the Grim Batol bit: notice the coin fished from the fountain in Dalaran that refers to the prisoners of Grim Batol: prisoner could mean Neltharion, the Old God, or those under his influence?

Commentaire de bogoradwee

MihaiLung said,

Today there are few remaining High Elves, most of them being the ones who leaved Quel'thalas long before the destruction of the Sunwell and who found some ways to feed themselves with magic

wow... you said leaved. sorry i couldn't resist pointing it out

Commentaire de loozerr

He should definitely drop Saronite.

Loads of it.

Commentaire de 271037

So, when will it drop boss-like mount?

Commentaire de 124192

Ok, i'm just wondering about something, ever one talks about this guy and the guy in silithus as the old gods, but then what are all the "gods" in zul'drak? the tiger, snake, winged serpant, mammoth, all them. i mean they seem to be gods, they act like gods and were worshipped like gods, fill me in? some one?

Commentaire de Blackriver

5. Neltharion was likely driven mad by one of the Old Gods. Whether this was one we know about or not is unknown. Considering he now dwells deep below Grim Batol in caverns unknown by the dwarves, he could be having tea and crumpets with that Old God as we speak.

Unlikely. Neltharion was corrupted by a "chorus" of evil voices. His corruption being a vision in the encounter makes it seem as if either

A. Yogg-Saron had a hand in Neltharion's corruption, or
B. Yogg-Saron was the sole Old God corrupting Neltharion (since Yogg-Saron has so many mouths, and is the 'fiend of a thousand faces'.)

Commentaire de 204085

I know this doesnt realy pretane to this comment section but im wondering where pepople are finding these /srcip, /play, and /run sound file commands and if there is a way to get wave files of them or extract them from the wow files.

Commentaire de 63375

Allright, he drops a mount for sure. Looks like mimiron's head as Artex said.

Link on the looks : http://www.exo-guild.com/images/head.jpg

* Edit, on Ultimate hardmode ( no watchers ), ofcourse. *

Why are you downrating, its not a lie.

Commentaire de 384176

Yogg Saron is one of the old gods we clearly know that but what id like for someone to post if they know or if they can find a link to it is His own Brain room ive been told that he shows Garon assassinating Varian Wyrns father the fall of the Sunwell and etc please can someone clarify this for us

Commentaire de macteplmao

Exodus iso fail on yogg+0 keepers lol..

Commentaire de Xandin

Does anyone have the sound files for the whispers he does throughout Northrend? I can't find them but would like to have them.

Commentaire de 417037

Stay near your Sanity-Buddy. That is all.

Commentaire de 308123

So THAT is the skin of the ''old Death God'' ?

*Puke*

Commentaire de 163521

A Chinese guild <Stars> Got the first +0 keepers kill and may have gotten regular boss kills too if they didnt get the patch 1 week later than the rest of the world.

Commentaire de novus

Anyone noticed that his voice in these three sound files sound alot like Darth Vader? Lol.

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\YoggSaron\\UR_YoggSaron_YSVisOne01.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\YoggSaron\\UR_YoggSaron_YSVisOne02.wav")
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\YoggSaron\\UR_YoggSaron_YSVisOne03.wav")

Commentaire de Legoslask

Is it just me, or is it terribly ironic that he falls victim to his own domain of power? That is, if he can be killed.
I mean, he's the old god of death, right?

Commentaire de 139482

Anyone else notice that Yogg doesn't die at 0%? Rather, it seems when his hp hits 1.5% or so he dies.

Commentaire de Modibybob

Oh noes! The venus flytrap of death!

Commentaire de 439463

I swear this raid is the MAD raid of all world of warcraft it is EXTREME AWSOMENESS!

Commentaire de 439539

is the screenshots we see is Yogg-saron? because if yes,he's not even humanoid!

Commentaire de Camthra

1. C'Thun - killed in WoW, presumed dead in lore.

C'thun is not dead, or at least, not for much longer. Cho'gall, long thought dead as well, is currently resurrecting him, and they are gaining powers and abilities from each other. Source: Cho'gall's wowwikki page

Commentaire de 112775

Behold, World First real life Yogg-Saron footage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ays_OkKHJPg

Commentaire de 171753

Yogg-saron is a female!

Commentaire de 165617

Yogg looks JUST like the creature outside the Mines of Moria...
No lie, go watch the movie and tell me that he isn't corrupting Middle Earth too xD

Commentaire de 408011

did this guy today, basicly as long as tanks taunt adds, evryone avoid green rays, and keep thier sanity up, and you have enough dps it's K.O.

Commentaire de craftyard

I've noticed that we never seem to get him to 0 health...

He just gets to 100k health, and then "dies"

Commentaire de 235398

It's worth noting that Yogg-Saron's tentacles give an extra debuff against any Anime Girls in the raid.

Commentaire de 128242

Just to elaborate on Yogg-Saron's vision and what, if anything, he had to do with Deathwing's corruption.

Now that WoW: Cataclysm has been announced and we know that Deathwing will be the primary antagonist, I think we can finally rule out that Yogg-Saron was the Old God responsible for his corruption. As we are slowly learning more about Deathwing, it is becoming firmly established that whatever has corrupted him lies deep within the earth, and that it was Neltharion's connection to the deep places of the world that made him particularly vulnerable. Yogg-Saron has been trapped in Ulduar since the War with the Titans, quite literally placed in the "roof of the world." If Neltharion dwells within the deep places of Azeroth, Yogg-Saron would hardly be qualified to be that corrupting force. After all, for a being as powerful as Neltharion, it would have taken very close proximity to drive him so completely mad. What this suggests quite simply is that this Old God resides in or below Deepholm. I'm sure as time goes on we will learn more about who, or what, this creature is.

Now, as for Yogg-Saron's visions. It is clear to me now that these visions are not showing events Yogg-Saron directly influenced. After all, there is absolutely no evidence Yogg-Saron has anything to do with the Lich King, and that if anything the two are enemies. So why the vision of the Lich King? Garona Halforcen is now a character in the comic books, and nowhere in there has it been suggested that she has received any whisperings from any Old Gods. So why the vision of her assassination of King Llane? Simple. They are simply acts of evil and/or treachery, designed to try and corrupt the player by showing the evils of the world. Just like how in movies people are brainwashed by being shown horrific scenes to bring out their violent nature. Remember folks, Yogg-Saron is not attempting to destroy the player, it is attempting to 'corrupt' them; to destroy their sanity.

So can we put to bed the "Yogg-Saron corrupted Neltharion" theories and accept that a new Old God is likely the driving force behind the events to come in Cataclysm?

Commentaire de 436067

after you beat the tribunal of ages, a boss in halls of stone, you choose to either skip the cut scene or listen, most people skip it, but i chose to listen, apparently, the titans created all things in a metal form, then came along the old gods, who made the "curse of flesh" and things devolved from metal, to stone, to skin. and the reason why the titans can't kill them is because, the curse is linked to the old gods in some way and, if they all die, the hosts of the curse die too. which pretty much means, if us loot crazy players go on killing the gods and kill them all, then bye-bye everybody. this also explains the earthen and humans, who supposedly devovled from the vrykul. the dwarves, came from the earthen. so, please, leave at least one old god alive if you actually want to use some of that epic loot :)

Commentaire de leggomyeggo588

If your fighting Yogg Saron: Here's how the Keepers are helpful during the YS fight.

Mimiron: Speed of Invention — Increases all damage done by 10% and movement speed by 20%. Increases player size by 10%.
Destabilization Matrix — Mimiron channels a beam of titan energy that destabilizes the molecular structure of certain Saronite based creatures, reducing attack speed by 100% and casting speed by 300%. Cast on all tentacles outside in the encounter.
Freya: Resilience of Nature — Increases all damage done by 10% and healing received from all sources by 20%. Increases player size by 10%.
Sanity Well — Freya conjures a Sanity Well that regenerates the Sanity of anyone who stands within it. Two of these green beams will be up the entire fight at the sides of the room.
Thorim: Fury of the Storm — Increases all damage done by 10% and total health by 20%. Increases player size by 10%.
Titanic Storm — Thorim channels a storm of titan energy that periodically strikes at enemy targets with bolts of lightning strong enough to destroy weakened immortal creatures. Without Thorim the Immortal Guardians in phase 3 are unkillable.
Hodir: Fortitude of Frost — Increases damage done by 10% and reduces damage taken from all sources by 20%. Increases player size by 10%.
Hodir's Protective Gaze — Allows Hodir to save a friendly target who sustains fatal damage by encasing them in a nearly impenetrable block of ice for 10 seconds. Hodir must rest after performing this action.

For three keepers: Leave Mimiron out. The tentacles will be easy to kill, if you have a good group.
Two keepers: Hodir. His ice block is a trump card. If a tank is dead, let the off tank pick up add/YS.
One: Freya. Thorim is needed if you want to do 1 Keeper. As said, without him, the Immortal guadians are unkillable. Just don't look at Lunatic Gaze.
Zero: Without Thorim, the Immortal Guardians are unkillable. Don't look at Lunatic Gaze, and just like P2 in Kel'Thuzad, pick up the Immortal Guardians. Straightforward fight. Also, if you have 3 Keepers or less, YS will cast Bellowing Roar, which gives a healer a chance to throw the fragments into his maw, reforging the Legendary Hammer.

Commentaire de maasterrketty

~~OMGG ITS YOGG~~

Commentaire de 232137

Lets not tforget the old god that anub'arak and arthas killed at azjol'nerub

Commentaire de Blackriver

So can we put to bed the "Yogg-Saron corrupted Neltharion" theories and accept that a new Old God is likely the driving force behind the events to come in Cataclysm?

Not at all. Yogg-Saron was the one who corrupted Neltharion, that's why it shows the creation of the Demon Soul: the point at which Neltharion begun his descent into madness. It's plain as day that Yogg-Saron was responsible. Additionally, it doesn't say anything about another Old God or even another force of any kind influencing Deathwing. So can we put to rest the "some new Old God corrupted Neltharion" theories and accept that Yogg-Saron is likely the driving force behind Neltharion becoming Deathwing? There wouldn't need to be an Old God behind the events of Cataclysm, Deathwing is crazy and evil enough to be motivated enough on his own. Deathwing is behind Cataclysm, just as all the announcements state.

Garona was corrupted by Sargeras in the body of Medivh, driving her mad. Unless Sargeras has any major ties with Yogg-Saron, I doubt that Yogg is responsible for the assassination of King Llane. And I don't think that Yogg has any ties with Sargeras, as Sargeras is a titan who actually helped defeating the Old Gods and was later corrupted by the Nath'rezim.

Incorrect again. Just because Sargeras was in the body of Medivh doesn't mean he had any influence on Garona. And if Garona and the assassination of King Llane had no ties to Yogg-Saron, why would they include that event as one of his visions and have him drop a dagger that refers to said assassination? It's common sense, people.

So why the vision of her assassination of King Llane? Simple. They are simply acts of evil and/or treachery, designed to try and corrupt the player by showing the evils of the world.

There are much worse events that have occured that he could have shown the player if this were the case.

Additionally, there is no Old God within Deepholm. Deepholm is the dominion of Therazane, the Elemental Lord of Earth, a servant of the Old Gods.

Perhaps next time Blizzard should just spell it out in big, red letters, because it seems as if some people simply can't get obvious hints and references.

Commentaire de 128242

First, you didn't explain the vision of the Lich King. And I can tell you as a point of fact that Yogg-Saron has nothing to do with the Lich King. Your failure to explain that renders your points about the other visions null and void..however, I'll bite.

Read "The Last Guardian"...please. You wouldn't make statements like that if you actually knew any lore. When Garona killed King Llane, she was pregnant with Medivh's child, and likely carried some of Medivh's memories. It's practically flat-out stated that was what caused Garona to murder Llane. Yet, in spite of all that evidence, a vision within an instance and a couple pieces of loot cause you to presume something totally unrelated? I mean...it's loot! It rarely has anything in common with the person we fight.

Not at all. Yogg-Saron was the one who corrupted Neltharion, that's why it shows the creation of the Demon Soul: the point at which Neltharion begun his descent into madness. It's plain as day that Yogg-Saron was responsible.

Wrong. Deathwing was already corrupted when he created the Demon Soul. It was his intention all along to use it against his fellow Aspects..it was not the beginning of his descent, but rather the end.

Additionally, it doesn't say anything about another Old God or even another force of any kind influencing Deathwing.

It's only ever been stated Deathwing succumbed to the whsipers of the Old Gods. It has never been stated who it was, and given that Yogg-Saron is no longer able to whisper to Deathwing and yet he's still as deadly and destructive as ever, someone is likely still pulling the strings.

There wouldn't need to be an Old God behind the events of Cataclysm, Deathwing is crazy and evil enough to be motivated enough on his own. Deathwing is behind Cataclysm, just as all the announcements state.

His craziness and evil was caused by the Old Gods. He's not that on his own accord. Now yes, he's probably fallen off the deep end by now, but he is most certainly working toward an end goal. Given that he opened the way into the Four Elemental Planes which contain the servants of the Old Gods, he seems to still be working toward the Old Gods' ultimate goal: chaos. And really...do you honestly believe Blizzard isn't going to introduce another Old God in Cataclysm? They introduced Yogg Saron in spite of the fact he has absolutely nothing to do with the Lich King (the subject and namesake of the expansion), and yet you think they'll leave the Old Gods on the sidelines for an expansion about something they're actually intricately tied to? Please. This is Blizzard we're talking about. Any and all figures capable of being raid bosses WILL be raid bosses.

Your utter lack of knowledge about lore is surprising considering your tone. You attack other people for not having a clue, and yet persist on a subject of which you obviously know little about. I don't get it. So please, if you're going to respond, at least bring something constructive to the table.

Commentaire de 104555

Well, WOTLK bring a bit of explanations:

Humans are somehow "cursed" vrykuls - About 15 000 years agon some of the vrykul children were born "small and weak". Even if king Ymiron ordered to kill them, some mothers hide them and protected.

Dwarves and gnomes are creations of Titans cursed with "curse of flesh". Dvarves (and Troggs) were some sort of earth elementals (earthen) in service of Thorim, gnomes were machines made by Mimiron.

Case of elves is a bit unique since they connection to Elune. But who really is she? There are no other "true gods" in WoW universe: Holy Light and Earthmother have no personifications... but there are voodoo loas worshipped by trolls. They are mostly animals, but in rare cases (Zanza the restless for example) powerful leader can be turned into god-like character. Maybe the same happened with elves and Elune? Maybe she was powerful and respected enough during her lifetime as troll that she became worshipped after her death and strong enough to change a tribe of trolls into something different?

Commentaire de 478178

I was just thinking the other day in raid about yogg i came up that his name rhymes with frog Yogg the frog and he looks like a frog. Do you think thats how blizzard came up with the name... It looks like a frog they said oh dude lets make his name rhyme with frog ! =D

Commentaire de 400690

anyone notice no plate drops on 25...?

Commentaire de Stormwaker

I am a lucid dream, the monster in your nightmare...

The fiend of a thousand faces, cower before my true form...

BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH!

Still get chills hearing that, and the laugh is so evil...Blizzards has truly outdone themselves on every aspect of Yogg-Saron.

Commentaire de Grads

"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."

-H.P. Lovecraft

Commentaire de Merylyan

I love Wowhead, it shows that you can fill entire pages of comments with lore, and talk about the boss strategy only after the major points of lore have been discussed.

(And that's good, very good.)

Commentaire de 415610

Hehe...he looks like a headcrab on the 3d

Commentaire de IbFeeshin

Looks like noone's raided him in a while, he set up a talk show if anyone wants to see.

Commentaire de 458414

Most of the info here is lore and speculation on other old gods.

Could we get some more boss fight tactics or personal accounts? I saw a bit about hunter pets, and tentacle kill orders ( both useful ), but honestly, most of the 150+ comments are not very helpful for killing this guy.

Unless the only way to do things is the way Wowhead outlines the abilities, which tells what do do, and why you have to do it, but not much on how/when/who should.

I am interested in knowing if my guild jumping into ICC/ToGC will help much ( ie. will better gear make this cake ). We are a pretty relaxed bunch of raiders, it takes us 2 nights to clear up to the last 2 boss's here, and I know we will need all the help we can get in this last one.

10 man raid btw.

Commentaire de mixter

examples of possible old gods:

1.Tar ' stink , THE GOD OF A THOUSAND NOSES!
2.Kael ' Thas , because magister's terrace was merely a setback
3.That old guy from scene 26
4. Deaf' tok , GOD OF A THOUSAND EARS! wait wat
5.HOGGER
6. Kael' Thas , because 2. was merely a setback!
7.Basic campfire
8.Half eaten cookie
9.Canttou'chthis , GOD OF A THOUSAND....touch sensory organs= skins?
10. That Deathknight that stands in the fire called Bob
11.That chicken that you ate for dinner
12.Mr. T
13.The "You have been disconnected from the server" message
14.Greg Ghostcrawler
15.That crazy hippie that ate your mailbox
16.You must construct additional pylons to know this boss
17.Kael'Thas....What a surprise...
1337. Saurfang
18. That pie Kevin ate
19.A sparkling vampire with a silver steak encrusted garlic dog
20.A forum troll
21. The Lich Keg
22.Wall of text
23.The Onyxia wipe guy
24.Not one, but two lvl 83 tauren mooadins
24b.Not one, but two lvl 83 tauren prot mooadins
25. Kael'Thas
26.That wierd goblin that's on a flying skateboard

Commentaire de 515885

Saronite gets it's name from this guy as it's is supposedly his blood crystallized into a rock

Commentaire de TK0680

The Trolls and the Nerubians were the first races to have their very own Empires

Just to nitpick, this isn't quite right. The Nerubians only became Nerubians after splitting from the Aqir (the remaining Aqir becoming the Qiraji). The Amani and Gurubashi troll nations essentially united to fight the Aqir, before resuming their usual in-fighting once the Aqir had split off towards the North (Nerubians) and south (Qiraji).

If you can call the Dragon civilisation an empire, it's certainly got a claim to be the oldest. Civilisations after that would have to list Azj'Aqir and the Trolls first.

Commentaire de TK0680

A point I find interesting: there is only one zone in Northrend with no Scourge presence whatsoever, despite being next door to their stronghold.

Arthas fears Yogg.

Commentaire de 536430

Does anyone have the sound file for the laugh Yogg-Saron does when he casts Lunatic gaze?

Commentaire de luio2revenge

You mixed up a little the "loss of Host" was refered in killing the Necrophotonic Parasit also known as "Curse of Flesh" that the Eathen got, it is rumored that the parasite was created by the Old god: Yogg-Saron but the old gods arent the parasite they created it in order to leave Azeroth defenceless, by making it's first protectors (and Shapers) the Eathen vulnerable, how? the parasite turned on their skin meaking them weak, that's how the Dwarves were created, they are the earthen inflicted by the curse of Flesh, also the name of the curse is a reference to it's purpose, what's the dwarven skin made of now? Flesh, exactly. So the Old gods plan of retaking Azeroth were going preety well, until the Titans arrived and fixed everything again, they discovered the Earthen could not be healed as the death of the parasite would mean on their loss (loss of host) and so they remuved the parasite, but the curse remained, and the dwarves were born, that's why the dwarves racial is "rocky skin", it's the remnants of their ansestors the earthen, just as the humans ansestors were the Vrykul, then again cursed and weakened to become humans (the riddle in that is that even when you weaken the body the spirit remains, or that's what i think =P) so we could say that Blizz decided to go looking for the sasquach in northrend, and i don't mean the thing i mean the lost links of the only races which way they came to be was never written in the books implemented in the game. Going back to the Old god's plan, the titans removed the parasite and implemented new protectors: the Drag. Aspects, the storgiants, the watchers, the new earthen, Loken, Aesir and Vanir, etc. Yogg then took advantage and took the mind of the first in command, Loken, as the great machine (Ulduar itself) couldn't be mind controlled in the absence of a mind of it's own, so he used Loken to free him, take over Ulduar, leave Azeroth defenceless and taking over it's armies,with trichery and mind controll, from there "Ulduar: Defiance"

Commentaire de luio2revenge

Ummm let me order those for you... "Trolls predated titans" ummm nope this is wrong, trolls where born long after the Old Gods were vanished and their Generals (Elemental Lords) exiled to the elemental plane, it was a peaceful begining.

"Titans came to Azeroth, fought the old gods and imprisoned them"

right, that's the beggining...

"Dumped the Well of Eternity in the middle of Azeroth"

as it follows...

"which some Dark Trolls found and started worshipping. Those that didn't give in to the "corruption" are the few remaining Dark Trolls, which aren't seen in WoW for some reason."

ummm right at the first frace, but let me add "dark" trolls weren't really "dark" they were a kind of exiled clan that didn't want to be with the other's they are kind of "the trolls who gave up to the Voodoo" also i wouldn't say "corruption, it's more like evolution. As it goes:

Anyway, Arcane Magic (and its spinoff, Fel Magic) basically chained an INSANE amount of evolution over twenty-thousand years. Dark Troll -> Night Elf -> Highborne Elf -> High Elf ->
Blood Elf -> Wretched/Felblood Elf

Then kind of meanwhile this was going on:

Old Gods corrupted Stone Vrykul, Earthen, Giants and Mechagnomes into Flesh Vrykul (which they then turned into Humans), Dwarves, Storm Giants, and Mechagnomes to "better facilitate assimilation". Basically Stone creatures couldn't be MC'd, but Flesh ones could.

In a matter of fact they used the Necrophotonic parasite (alias: Curse of Flesh, probably made just by Yogg without the help of the other's as he was the nearest and also the one who could find it more "useful") to not to MC cuz your statement above about that is wrong, if it was true then Loken and Thorim coul not be MC'd as they are STONE watchers, it was to "better asimilate" let's say that giants made out of stone were like the worst nightmare of the old gods and fleshy little brats could be smite and eaten preety easier and instead of bringing lot's of atention to them by just making a total siege to the stony guys they could just kill them easily and stealthier. Anyways the Titans found out about the curse of flesh: Yada, Yada, Yada....

built the five Watchers and Loken, defeated the great proto-wyrm Galakrond (possible a servant of the old gods?), made the 5 Dragonflights out of his ribcage (yet he seems to have them all in Dragonflight...),

yep you also forgot about the "reforging the earthen" thingy, so well Yogg MC'd Loken - Took controll of the earthen and Ulduar's defences - set the two factions (Aesir and Vanir) against each other leaving Ulduar completly defenceless - Freed himself - <bunch of other thing happened> - Brann found out - Kirin Tor siege Ulduar and take credit for defeating Yogg and saving Azeroth on your Raids face, and here we are...

Commentaire de 448894

he looks hungry

Commentaire de 211544

'No king rules forever, only death is eternal!'

-Yogg-Saron

'No king rules forever my son.'

-Terenas Menethil II

I'm probably over analyzing, but something is terribly wrong here.

Commentaire de 340556

Is by any chance YS's voice actor the same as Baal's from diablo 2?...think of the Hysteric laugh when YS is defeated and Baal's laughs trough the worldstone keep

Commentaire de 429348

now why would a huge-god-lore-monstery thing drop a robotic flying mount in the shape of a head?..........am i missing something or is that like illidan droping a little clown car

oh wait...

Commentaire de 274949

he is the god that made flowers, sunshine and rainbows
oh yeah, and kittens & puppies

Commentaire de 336987

Best goddamn boss in the expansion, hands down.

I would not have complained if Arthas and Yoggy were switched. He'd have made a fine end to the expansion.

Commentaire de 502476

Braaaaainzz!

Commentaire de 572232

i just dont get 1 thing : why god of death? why not god of maddness or god of corruption? maybe god of chaos......but god of DEATH? It kinda.....doesnt go.....he has moves more that affect your mind and some tricks to confuse the raid rather than insane damage moves or instand killing moves(atleast thats my image of a death god). "maddness will consume you" is that what a death god sais instead of "your death shall be inevitable" or something like that?

Commentaire de 137333

im so glad im not the only one who thinks the old gods are a refrence to the world of H.P.Lovecraft

Commentaire de 564159

That is not dead which can eternal lie,

and with strange aeons even death may die.

-Lovecraft himself.

Commentaire de Coldbeard

"Neltharion had split them all apart, thus leaving the tree vulnerable to the corruption."

In lore Neltharion (He was known as Deathwing then) never blessed the tree.
Only Nozdormu, Yersa and Alexstraza blessed it.

Commentaire de Junyed

The only boss i can think of as an execption to the rule is Onyxia. While you do recieve her head as a quest reward, she's being brought back for the 5th Wow Anniversary. I think she is classed as dead Lore-wise though.

She was technically killed in the WoW comic by the two seperate aspects of Varian Wrynn (immediately prior to the re-joining of the two disparate halves of his personality). While the others living status may be up in the air (depending on the in-game or out-of-game effect on other lore, such as The Lich King's death affecting the two plagelands zones), Onyxia is most likely definitely dead lore-wise.

Commentaire de 608743

do you guys know that Onyxia drops even better loot than Yogg-Saron.. even better than t9 once she was upgraded :O just check on the 25man drops

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