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Kommentar von kanzen

The Philosopher's Stone has a history LONG before both Fullmetal Alchemist and Harry Potter.

Only by a "few" centuries though... sigh.

Kommentar von 28236

Used for doing Transmutions such as:
Primal Might (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=23571)
Arcanite: (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=12360)
Earthstorm Diamond (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=25867) Used for Alchemist's Stone, aswell as Skyfire Diamond (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=25868)

The recipe for this stone is unlimited at Alchemist Pestlezugg at Tanaris.
A new replacement for Alchemist's Stone is Alchemist's Stone.(https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=13503)

Kommentar von 49755

"The philosopher's stone, in Latin lapis philosophorum, is a legendary substance that supposedly could turn inexpensive metals such as lead into gold and/or create an elixir that would make humans younger, thus delaying death."

Taken from wikipedia

Kommentar von 110266

Not to mention that it's infact a trinket now, hehe.

Kommentar von 133330

Also, since it's not explicitly clear, this item is not a reagent that is consumed in each recipe. You only need one and gain no benefit from making more.

Kommentar von 99820

New passive 30-39, or 40-49 stat trinket anyone? :D

Kommentar von daurenr

How good is it for twinking? comparing to Arena Master and Rune of Duty?

Kommentar von 81147

It should be rare or uncommon at least, now after it give +5 at all stats. Maybe will be changed in a future patch.
Beside that is a great trinket for everyone.

Kommentar von 92250

2.4.3 Patch notes.

Alchemy

* Philosopher's Stone now requires 200 Alchemy.

Kommentar von 63953

uhm, where do you learn to craft this?

Kommentar von bathazar

If only Ed had 4 iron bars, a black vitriol, 4 purple loti, and 4 firebloom...

Al would have been his normal old fleshy self a long time ago ;)

Kommentar von 08Jacob

"Deletet''

Kommentar von 181499

this has nice stats for a trinket

Kommentar von weylen107

This is by far one of the most useful 39 twink trinkets that have stats very easy to lvl up the proff to get and is very useful for druids, shamans, and pallys and probably more

Kommentar von 57910

I had the bright idea of making two of these and wearing both of them. Of course, as with other trinkets, I realized the possibility of not being able to stack them but without any information on this particular item, there was only one way to find out. Don't waste your mats. I already had the mats in the bank so it was no biggie. Maybe this post will save somebody a gamble.

There may be something that allows wearing more than one of the same trinkets, but I'm not aware of it.

Kommentar von camarouge

Glad we've clarified that this trinket did NOT originate with FMA. I'd hate to see the Lance of Longinus appear in game somewhere and someone ignorantly accrediting it to Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Past that, a lesser known factoid is that the Philosopher's Stone is capable of turning mundane objects(i.e. lead) into gold.

Since gold is the currency in WoW, there could very well be some possible applied uses of this feat; that is, turning non-gold stuff, into gold -- or other useful, possibly alchemy related substances. Wikipedia also has this to say about the uses of the philosopher stone:

"....it was also sometimes believed to be an elixir of life, useful for rejuvenation and possibly for achieving immortality."

It just seems to me like the state this item is currently in is somewhat of a waste. So much lore-related potential, so little application.

Kommentar von 112072

The item Description says: "Requires Level 35"

This refers only to the character level required to mount this into a trinket slot. You do not need to be level 35 to create the stone, nor do you need to be level 35 to use it for making transmutes.

Kommentar von 282631

The new Alchemist Stones can also be used for transmutes. They also do not require the Philosopher's Stone. You can safely toss away your Philosopher's Stone after making an Alchemist Stone.

Kommentar von 254214

My brother wants me to mention that everyone is forgetting the harry potter references :P
There was a whole book about it, for the immortality factor O.O

Kommentar von luio2revenge

You only need one and gain no benefit from making more (From Idofen)

Hmmm there is a little chance that someone in the game decides to have enchanting as first or second proffesion (alchemy being the other) in which case you could create more of these to disenchant...

Kommentar von 145869

It seems that everyone has forgotten that the sorcerer Gargamel in the smurfs needed the smurfs in order to create the Philosopher's Stone. Thought i bring that up in a list of things the stone is used in besides FMA.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Tanaris, Gagdetzan

Kommentar von Thottbot

Do I just need to make 1 of these, or do they have X number of uses?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Making multiple stones does not allow you to do multiple transmutes so you need only one. Since they are soulbound you can't sell stones you make. Cooldown is 48 hours on transmutes.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Wtf? The philosophers stone is not a reference to anything other than the original alchemic myth of something that could turn lead into gold among other things. Sure, Harry Potter is great. Sure, FMA is great. But wtf? They didn't come up with it, it's not a reference to either, they didn't steal it. If anything, Harry Potter, FMA, and Blizzard are just using the myth as a means for plot device.

Kommentar von Thottbot

ok so it has a cooldown is that per trasmute?
ex. i transmute air to fire or whatever

may i then transmute undeath to earth?

i know my examples may not exsist but i want to know if each different transmute has its own cooldown or each time i transmute anything if i have to wait 24 hours for any other trasmute

thanks in advance

Kommentar von Thottbot

...rather, the cooldown is on your character.

The various transmutes activate your character's Transmutation cooldown with varying durations (depending on the transmute) but the stone itself does not have a cooldown.

So, no you cannot get around the cooldown by using multiple stones, etc.

By the way, this is how item cooldowns work in general. They are tied to your character, not the item.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does the cooldown time change (i.e. the more you use it) over time or did it change with the recent patches? My cooldown was 24 hrs, now it is 23 hours for Arcanite, primal might, and earthstorm diamond. Who knows? :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

yeah you can buy the recipe for the stone in gagdetzan

Kommentar von Thottbot

I like the addition of the stats to this item. My priest is my Alchemist, and I didn't have any trinkets. Nice stats!

Kommentar von Thottbot

It doesn't say unique, could i have 2 on my 39 twink druid?

Kommentar von Thottbot

As mentioned previously, these items ARE "Unique - equipped", meaning you can only equip one at a time. You do not need to be an alchemist to wear the item, but you do need to be one to create the item, and they cannot be traded.

So, to sum up, you CAN create one as an alchemist, then drop the profession and keep the trinket equipped. And, you cannot wear two at a time.

Kommentar von Thottbot

There is a 23hr cooldown on all of the transmutes except the Arcanite Bar. I don't know why this is but you can make as many in a row as you want. As of 4/30/08 it is a 23hr. cooldown. Hope this helps.

Kommentar von Thottbot

As of 2.4.2 its a green item.

Kommentar von Thottbot

the cooldown on Transmute is now only 20 hours, still sucks, but it's better.

Kommentar von Thottbot

If you abandon the proffesion, the stone will auto. remove from your char. And it can not be used before you reach lvl 200 in that proff again:P
GL

Kommentar von Thottbot

Eh the name isnt stolen from harry potter, the Philosopher's Stone has been around for a couple of 100 years and is knowed worldwide.

Kommentar von Thottbot

You make it yourelf mate, Buy the recipe from Tanaris

Kommentar von Thottbot

too bad it has a lvl35 req, would be awsome for a lvl 29 twink

Kommentar von Thottbot

Best for a paladin to take full advantage of all the stats.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The Philosiphers' Stone is used for Transmuations. Can only use it once a day apparently. (24H cooldown.)I assume the Alchemists' Stone is the same deal with a significantly shorter cooldown.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got one of these from a Mithril Deposit I was mining (in Arathi Highlands, I believe but it may have been Alterac Monutains). Only the second gem I have ever goten from a Mithril Deposit (usually just Mithril ore and maybe Solid Stone. The other gem was a Star Ruby the following day).

You might try giving some Mithril ore to a jewelcrafter and letting him use Prospecting on it (basically converts 5 ore into a random gem (sometimes two) and mithril dust, but maybe this reagent might result also?). Mithril is too valuable to me right now as a Blacksmith to roll the dice on some random gems (I send any copper, tin, or iron ore I collect to a friend. He prospects it and tells me what he got (yes I trust him that much. I know him in RL). We usually split the gems based on what each of us can use for crafting purposes).

Kommentar von Allakhazam

only allows one at a time

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Achieving the Philosopher's Stone is the Western Tradition's equivalent to the Eastern Tradition's "Nirvana".. aka Enlightenment.

Due to Christianity's desire to stop people from from learning the Hermetic Sciences (aka Metaphysics, aka Magick), very little is known about it by the general public, however, there are many people who actively study and practice.

In symbology (from alchemy to astrology), iron represents saturnian energies. Saturn is symbolic of fears, restraints, discipline, bondage, limitation, material greed (a need for more no matter how much already has), using money to bond others (such as what corporations do who don't treat their employees well), etc. Kabbalistically (mystical kabbala, not orthodox/tradition jewish kabbala), it represents Binah.. but that's a whole book in itself.

Gold of course represents the sun, the core essence or Higher Spirit. The equivalent in christian understanding is one's Holy Guardian Angel who knows all what's best and tries to guide one. Doing what is good for one's spirit naturally, working for both the good of oneself as well as others. Kabbalistically, this is Tiphareth. When actively seeking enlightenment, we are just below it (on the ascension to "heaven"), and when one is able to come into full harmony with what one's True Will is (not self-will), then they reach such a state of enlightenment where everything they wish to do, to accomplish, just happens without suffering (saturn). etc etc

Kommentar von Allakhazam

what are they used for?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

there seems to be a lot of confusion on the cooldown
\
just transmuted arcanite
cooldown 24hours

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My priest is a 375 xmute master the cd on her philosophers stone is 24 hours

I make a lot of money on my server from this I charge 10g for a primal might xmute and if it procs (which as yet it hasn't) I then charge for the extra one half of what it is on the ah so usually 50g

I have had it proc on arcanite bars for everyone 1 I have done these sell on my server for 10g a piece and after charging 5g for the xmute (their mats) that's a nice piece of cash I'm getting there.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Gold is the Philosopher's Stone, at least gold transmuted from lead or some other metal. It was the highest aspiration of alchemists to transmute lead into gold, and some spent their entire lives searching for a way to do so.

Over the centuries the legend of the "Philosopher's Stone" evolved into a magical stone that not only could turn lead into gold, but could heal the sick, enlighten your soul, and give eternal life.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

What about, say, transmuting water to air? 24 hour cooldown? 48 hour cooldown? None?(I can dream, can't I?)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For those of you who are bummed on the cooldown, try filling your character slots and getting a stone for each char, just an easy way to get around the whole timer thing, atleast to some extent.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

cry about it, mooncloth is a 4 day cooldown not to mention the felcloth needed to make it generaly drops in one location, in Felwood, (not the only place felcoth drops), but the best place to farm it, and everybody and their grandma go there to farm it. kinda sucky trying to get 2 felcloth when you have 8 people racing in to get the first swing

Edited, Mon May 22 18:41:12 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I used so much money for this... it sucks.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

can i make multiple philosophers stones and use both of them separately, or will the 24/48 hour cooldown apply to both of them once i transmute the first bar of mithril/iron

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The cooldown is the same regardless how many Philosophers' Stones you have.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Just wondering if you can only transmute 1 bar at a time, or if you can transmute 1 stack of bars. Can't seem to find this information anywhere, but I have a feeling I know the answer. Just want a confirmation from someone who's tried.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

TRANSMUTATIONS!
WAtch FullmetalAlchemist and may the force be with you...(lol!)
Oops...<may the force be with you> is not from here...
srry

Edited, Tue Mar 14 21:55:09 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

this thing sux.. how am i suppose to make any money by doing 1 transmuation a day or 2 days even... Can anyone tell me a good side to this?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

stone requires iron bar, purple lotus, fierbloom, and black vitrial. cant finf anything on allakhazam about the black vitrial or where to find it. a little help would be appreciated

Kommentar von Allakhazam

...I use this item to turn one metal into another more valuable metal, right? I can do this at the rate of 1 bar per day (assuming I play every day which I do not, not even close). So it takes a month or more to make 1 stack which I then will probably have to sell way too cheap because, well, that's just how it goes on Underpri... er, Undermine (why does it seem like everything I want to buy costs 80g but everything I have to sell, no matter how in-demand it is or how much it sells for EVERYWHERE else, is selling for 25s that day?). So a month's work for 2 gold. That's what you're telling me?

It's better than nothing... but damn, that sucks.

Edited, Jul 22nd 2007 1:35am by TyronethOfUndermine

Kommentar von Allakhazam

damn double post

Edited, Mon May 22 17:30:25 2006

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where does one acquire one of these lovelies?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

If it's a 48 hour cooldown, does that apply only to arcanite? More specifically, can you transmute Iron > Gold 24 hours after using it to transmute arcanite? I'm betting the answer is no, but wouldn't it be funny if they screwed that up?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

CD has been 20 hours for a few months now. And the new patch (v.2.4.3.8606) requires 200 Alch to create the stone.

Also, there no longer is a CD on Arcanite Bars, although the other low-level transmutes (Mithril to Truesilver, Iron to Gold) still have 20hr CDs.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Where does one acquire one of these lovelies?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the Philosopher's Stone.... harry potter and the Philosopher's Stone... heh heh heh

Kommentar von Allakhazam

The goal of the Great Work of alchemy, called also the Art, is the "Philosopher's Stone". The Stone was viewed as a magical touchstone that could immediately perfect any substance or situation. The Philosopher's Stone has been associated with the Salt of the World, the Astral Body, the Elixir, and even Jesus Christ. The Elixir of the alchemists has essentially the same ability to perfect any substance. When applied to the human body, the Elixir cures diseases and restores youth.

The alchemists' dream is to attain knowledge of the mysterious Philosopher's Stone, or "that Elixir by which such wonders are performed".
The Stone is "a blessing beyond all blessings upon earth... given to but very few, and to those few rather by revelation of the good angels of God than the proper industry of man".

(Excerpt from http://www.world-mysteries.com/awr_alchemy.htm)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Each stone is on a global Cool Down. You can have more then 1 stone for more then 1 transmute a day (or two). Or so what Worldofwar.net says. Also, no, it is not consumed. any other idiot questions?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I got it for 80s from vender.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Heh.

Sorry, I had to make the obvious reference there. But, to have some validity to my post and not make it seem like "OmG ThIs ITeM IS TeH UBAr!1!1!" fluff...

How does a Philosopher's Stone relate in the real-life legends of alchemy? Every time I see alchemy, I almost always see a reference to a philosopher's stone...and since a lot of content in video games is modeled after legends and myths in real life, I was wondering what the stone was supposed to have done in the alchemy myths.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

the cooldown is global for all alchemist recipes that require it, and even worse, its 48hour for all of them if you do arcanite

Kommentar von Allakhazam

For those of you interested in the history of the Philosopher's Stone, it was a magical substance or stone that, when added to a chemical reaction, sped it up/enhanced it without being used up itself. Sound familiar? Grade 10 chemistry anyone? It was a Catalyst, the first formally discovered. They couldn't explain how it enhanced the transmutation yet wasn't consumed itself, so they assigned magical properties to it.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

This thing isn't consumed in the process of transmuting is it?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I am not to the level yet but where can I find the recipe to make one?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Iron to Gold resulted in a 24 hour cooldown.

Mithril to Truesilver resulted in 48 hour cooldown.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

WTF is up with the cool stories about the philosophers stones? THey sound cool, but...

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Roses are red
Pansies are gay
If it wasn't for women
We'd all be that way

Kommentar von Roininish

While there's great discussion on what the Philosopher's Stone is and some really great lore, a lot of people want to know where to get the recipe.

You get it in Gaget

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