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Kommentar von 90656

Swiss Army Knife anyone?

Kommentar von 630

7 items condensed down to 1, very nice!

Kommentar von 184061

Most of the items named "Gnomish X" added in wotlk thus far do not have requires gnomish engineering anywhere on them, so it could be that the name is simply flavor and either spec can use them.

Kommentar von 201221

all you need in a handy package. the enginneers essential

Kommentar von MonkeyPower

How many engineers need skinning knife? ;)

Kommentar von Rossogia

Don't suppose anyone can confirm whether the cables count as Standard or XL? As I'm a Gobbo engi and would hate to have to carry my own cables because the pocket knife had the wimpy ones.

Kommentar von 40119

Both Jumper Cable Sets Share a Cooldown with The Gnomish Army Knife

Kommentar von 204960

This will Definately Save a Buncha Bag space, Considering it sits snugly in a single Slot =)
PS Just goes to show this goes with just about any Profession! (Except Enchanting )

Kommentar von 205622

It'd be pretty neat if it doubled as a fishing-pole too.

Kommentar von 33682

Conspiracy theorists will remember that is that gnomes are often associated with Switzerland, hence gnomish (swiss) army knife.

The Gnomes of Zurich (Capital of Switzerland) is a term used by conspiracy theorists to describe Swiss banking elites.

Edit: OK Capital of Switzerland is Bern. My family is even descended from there....

Kommentar von besaba

This thing is awesome.

Kommentar von Herbert

This is probably the coolest item the Gnomes have come up with, and that includes the chicken transformation gun.

Kommentar von 182348

It appears that this item does not bind on use or pick-up. This means that, if you so desire, you can trade this item repeatedly between toons that can benefit from it, saving yourself a great deal of bag space and maximizing the mileage you get out of this incredibly handy item.

Kommentar von KoboldDynasty

The beauty of this item is you don't need engineering to carry around this item and it counts as:

A Gyromatic Micro-Adjuster
An Arclight Spanner
A Flint and Tinder
A Blacksmithing Hammer
A Mining Pick
And a Skinning Knife

Basically it's a space saver but with the added bonus of a goblin jumper cables if your a grand master engineer i.e. engineering 375-450.
As long as you would normal carry around two of those listed items in your bags then it's a space saver.

Kommentar von Dimish

McGyver, meet your better half!

Kommentar von Thrianarn

Does anyone know the success rate on this? Is it even higher then that of the Goblin Jumper Cables XL?

Kommentar von 209163

ive been waiting for something like this! reduces bag and bank spaces from 7 to 1. GREAT! and also its the better version of GOBLIN JUMPER CABLES XL.
maybe it can be sold to non engineers as well as just the army knife

Kommentar von hpavc

Can a non-engineer use this as a pick/hammer?

Kommentar von webfox

Just needs a Simple Grinder...

Kommentar von 46483

Quinn Quarksprocket, the knife's inventor, was heard to say when this was released: "No, I don't know why a knife needs a battery. I thought it seemed like a good idea at the time, and I was right--we found a use for it in the end! Just, you know, don't take it underwater or bang it against anything and you'll be fine."

Kommentar von 105588

Anyone know how frequent the rezzing effect works? Is it better than the XL Cables?

Kommentar von Spl4sh3r

A guildmate of mine, who isn't an engineer, say he can use the resurrection part. Since he say that I assume that anyone can use it, but only engineers have any success rate? Or is it so that anyone can use it and ress?

Kommentar von ConflictJunkie

As to Dakdas's comment above, it would be impossible to add the Mote Extractor to the Gnomish Army Knife because it already has a use effect. (The Jumper Cables) /Shrug /Troll

Kommentar von interstellar

And I'm 0/2, where I had incredible luck with the XL :-)

Leave it to those stupid Gnomish Engineers to lower my success rate..

Kommentar von Yuksu93

the only problem i seem to see is the fact that it only fits in engineering bags, it'd be useful if it would fit in my LW bag

Kommentar von 262493

Is it possible that this item has a hidden +5 skining and/or + 5 mining on it? (referring to the post about mining skill not turning green untill 445)

Also, what about us miners / herbalist... we got left out? (even though herbing does not require a item, i realize this is a bag space issue more then anything else)

Kommentar von 105588

To make this, do you need the EXACT mats listed, or something that can pick mine, etc? (I use a mine pick from VC, just to be unique.)

Kommentar von synistrad

this item got better use for enginnering stuff more than others couse even if u have the hammerpick those saves you only 2 slots but whit this one save ya 4 and sum times those slots are essential for grind and other stuff, can save u sum precius minutes :)

this is too one of the few items that can allow u to lvl up enginnering.

Kommentar von Hoboonaparkbench

I just bought 3 for 3g each from some guy on my server.

Kommentar von 251040

I'm zero for four on rezzes. Not sure what the percentage is, but either it is not high or I am unlucky.

Kommentar von 137993

Why does this not count as an inscription ink set? Most multi tools IRL have ball-point pens or something like that.

Kommentar von 56956

You don’t need to be 450 Engineer to use any part of these (including res), Possibly over 375, but definitely not 450.

Kommentar von 168587

It's too bad that there isn't a bunch of Thieves Tools stuffed in this beauty.
I'm sure that the Rogues under us would appreciate that ^_^

Kommentar von septor

At the time of posting this, making this is the only (cost effective) way to get engineering from 435 to 450.

Kommentar von 71917

If you're hoping for improved convenience and a saved bag slot by using this to create Basic Campfire, you will be disappointed. It still requires having Simple Wood as a reagent.

Kommentar von 85502

My guild mate rez'd me with this during a heroic, and I rez'd at the Westfall graveyard(I'd never been to Westfall as this was my Deathknight). This happen to anyone else?

Kommentar von zariplz

I love this! Bought it for a sweet 7g - saves me the frustration of realizing I sold/trashed my mining pick to make bags-space. Or the agony of having to walk all the way back to the Orgrimmar Bank to grab my blacksmith hammer or engineering gear. :D it's so great!
I'll also get one for my Rogue (Skinning/Mining) to prevent those annoying 'oops' moments. Not to mention later my Hunter can use it to rez people! ^^

I love combo items!

Kommentar von NeronaS

About this item being the cheapest way to lvl engineering(every guide I found on the net said so), it's a MAJOR pain when it turns green. For me at least. I had like 1/20 success rate...I have got black circles around my eyes farming saronite to get to 450...
Seriously, keep your goggle craft(and heartseeker scope?) till this thing turns green first. And then I would consider crafting a couple of goggles again...(ok yeah, exaggerating a little. maybe. :P )

Kommentar von 188301

this is another reason why hunters should be engs.
all hunters can use feign death (and for rouges possibly vanish) then while out of combat charge the army knife, it will revive the person of your choosing. this saved my group on H UP when our healer was killed, but i was able to rez him.

Kommentar von 142885

Can this be made and used by both goblin and gnomish engineers?

Kommentar von 142885

Can both Gnomish and Goblin Engineers make and use these?

Kommentar von hephij

freak luck or buffed proc chance? last 20 resses, all succesful :|

Kommentar von 21986

It would be nice if this integrated the vendor bought JC tools as well. Don't suppose it does and it is just undocumented?

Kommentar von Thaag

I have two engineers. One of them is also a miner, so obviously it is the most useful to her as the only tool she cannot use is the skinning knife. Big deal. Both are goblin spec engineers, but it is worthy to note that you do NOT have to be an engineer to use the mundane tools. I have used the rez option several times with both characters and have had mostly successful rezzes with them. I'm going to guess a 75% chance is accurate. I have not checked to see if there is a bug that allows non-engineers to use them.

On another note, I gave nearly every one of these I made (I must have made about 45 of them in total) away as Winter Veil presents to total strangers. Great stocking stuffers!

Kommentar von Warnipplez

I dont know if anyone's thought about this. But has anyone wondered how you use your blacksmith hammer to turn your blacksmith hammer into an item.

Lol.

Kommentar von 64237

just picked this up for a few of my toons on Kalecgos (US) for under 1g while the bladed pickaxe went for 3g and the hammer pick went for 6g. So prices really depend on your server economy.

Kommentar von megacondenser

Since there are not that many posts addressing the question of resurrection success rate, I wanted to add that I have had 5/5 successful attempts with the Knife so far. That is in sharp contrast to the Jumper Cables XL, with which I had no success ever, probably zero for 12 or 15 attempts. I had stopped carrying the Cables in fact.

So, at least for me, this item is subjectively much more useful, and my experience lines up with what several others here have observed.

Kommentar von 144149

even tough this has the flint and tinder in it it does not have the wood, wich makes it pretty much useless when you need that camfire on top of that random mountain( unless of course you cally wood with you wich i dont think most people do...least i dont)

Kommentar von malmern

Nice,
I just got mine for 80 Silver o_O

(Ducking for cover, waiting for purge)

Kommentar von malmern

Almond:
"even tough this has the flint and tinder in it it does not have the wood, wich makes it pretty much useless when you need that camfire on top of that random mountain( unless of course you cally wood with you wich i dont think most people do...least i dont)"

w00t,
an army knife with a wood dispenser xD

Now that my "friend" would be epic!

Kommentar von Frallanboy

Mentioned in Dark Legacy Comic Nr.173.
http://darklegacycomics.com/173.html
If only the knife had those handcuffs...

Kommentar von 103740

I am a miner and a skinner. How do you get it to hold your skinning knife and mining pick.

Kommentar von 309472

They just changed the campfire portion of this item.

YOU NO LONGER NEED TO CARRY FIREWOOD!

This is great, they fixed it in Patch 3.0.8

Kommentar von Shinshiva

The flint and tinder on this knife just got so much better :) No need for Simple Wood to make fires :D

Kommentar von 109960

Very nice to have one of these now that Basic Campfire can be made without the Simple Wood reagent...

http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/01/23/simple-wood-no-longer-needed-to-make-campfires/

(Just use the Basic Campfire spell on your Spellbook general tab, it took me a sec to realize the right-click functionality was only for the Jumper Cables part of the knife)

Kommentar von RoboKestrel

I previously tracked the successful and failed rezzes of the Goblin Jumper Cables XL, and determined the success rate to be about 50-50 (based on 106 rezzes, 50 of which were successful).

Similarly, I am tracking the rezzes of this item. The data set is still quite small and statistically insignificant, however I will update it after every use.

Currently, I have 23 rezzes and 12 failures, indicating a ~66% success rate, up from 50%. As anyone with any cables experience would know, these rates are highly affected by streaks of successes and failures, so please take this statistic with a grain of salt until I have more data, preferably above ~50 rezzes, although 100 would be ideal.

I do think it's safe to kick your cables to the curb and stick these in your pack though, especially because they share a cooldown. There's no need to carry both, and these are shaping up to be the superior rezzers.

All recipients of the tracked rezzes are level 80 and across a broad variety of classes. I am unaware of class or level impacting the success rate of the Army Knife, but I will try to keep all targets at 80 to prevent the data from being skewed in either direction. I do not believe class would have any impact.

Kommentar von Toldry

This also needs:

Water/Earth/Fire/Air Totem.
Runed Titanium Rod
Jeweler's Kit
Unlimited supply of Vials.
Forge
Moonwell
Netherstorn
Emerald Dragonshrine
Auction House
Bank
Proffesion training NPCs
Battleground NPCs
A NPC that sells each item sellable by any vendor in WoW
A NPC that can give all the quests in WoW
A NPC that you can turn in all your quests to
INN Keeper (So you will be rested wherever you are)
Portals to all the cities and instances
Flight Master
Mankrik's Wife

Yup, I wish I had a Netherstorm in my Army Knife.
And that all the NPCs and Fishing water will be in that personal Netherstorm

Kommentar von Duncello

I just bought 3. For 10g each from a guildie trying to skill up.
For my Main, My Skinner, and My BS/ Miner. Very Useful for the last one.

Kommentar von 109381

This item is even more useful now that simple wood has been removed as a reagent for making a campfire. For that matter, as mentioned you can find them for dirt cheap, so pick one up and replace your flint and tinder (if you carry it) just because it's so darn cool.

Kommentar von 176783

a few of toldry's suggestions for items to add, are obviously jokes, and completely undoable. however, as for the rest of his and others' suggested additions, did it ever occur to any of you that they might be saving something for the sequel?

to supply engineering, most engineers are also miners, so they include a bunch of the stuff such engineers can use, plus the skinning *knife*, since it is a gnomish army *knife*, would be a bit too silly even for gnomes for it to have no knife blade on it.

this gives a majorly useful toy for us to use currently, while still leaving plenty of room for a better version in future expansions. i look forward to the Gnomish Army Knife XL in the next x-pac, and what would be left to include in it, if they put every tool, npc, and freakin' zone, in this one?

Kommentar von 227695

flint and tinder at an army knife? Old school stuff!

Kommentar von 41033

Also from what I can see, unlike other jumper cables the army knife seems to have a 100% success rate (atleast in my experience).

Kommentar von darthfusion

Please note - This can NOT be placed in a Mining Bag. Depending on your professions, Miners may want to consider The Hammer Pick instead.

Kommentar von 159686

To thoose of you that think, that because this can be used by non-engineers, to make a pretty penny on the auction house, you have got to remember that engineers can make freaking bikes now (and when the price falls, were gonna see a few "Hells Angels" guilds), that costs at least 7k of gold on my server.

Kommentar von 322602

Does the army knife have a better chance of reviving the player than the Jumper Cables XL or is it the same?

Kommentar von 279894

How come no one ever sells this on AH? :(

Kommentar von 319936

as MoP, it tooltip say it include:

it actually include the function of:

an unreliable resurrection with 30 min cd
Spitzhacke
Kürschnermesser

so, Gnomisches Armeemesser can still save some slots of your bag

Kommentar von rzzr

Have it on my hunter and it is great as it saves a bag slot where I used to keep a flint. He is a skinner but also a cook. I hardly ever used the basic camp fire before as I usually forgot to carry around the wood! (another bag slot!) but now I use it all the time for the daily cooking quests. One bag slot free and it will pay for itself with the vendor junk you sell!

Kommentar von 262652

in my opinion, the by far easiest way 2 lvl engineering. they vendor under 1g and the AH is always flooded, but the mats r worth it

10 saronite bars = >10min farming in sholoazar

everything else = about 1s

Kommentar von Wisdomsword

are the cables reusable?

Kommentar von cawfee

Also needs to include a Simple Grinder for us JCs!

Kommentar von Cotytto

Sells for less than 1 gold on my realm.One Saronite Ore sells for one gold on average.These take 20 Saronite Ore to make pluse the hammers,picks and knives.I'm still at 449 after crafting over 50 of these.

I made the mistake of making the goggles first.Don't make that mistake yourselves.Wait on making your goggles until 449.You won't regret it like I regret making 10 of these at 449 without a skillup.

Thank you Blizzard for making the only economical way to level to 450 cost us so much potential gold.

That was sarcasm by the way.

Kommentar von Mojorx

yup same mistake here ,
Jumped on making lvl 8o epic goggles as soon as i could and screwed myself out of makin max engi .
150 saronite bars later and 3 skill points acuired making these little basters ...
All i can hope 3.1 will bring some changes to the leveling mecanic of these ,
or some new scematics to lvl with /facepalm GG /golfclap

Kommentar von Spartaure

so whats the deal with this thing if you see a mineral do u just mine it like with a mining pick? and if you need to make a simple fire does it make one automaticly if you need it? more info people please

Kommentar von Rufina

I used this in on a druid after a wipe in Nexus, and he ended up in the Barrens. So much for wipe recovery...

Kommentar von draconicblue

Kind of curious, would this item work in arena :O?

Kommentar von Arexx

Anyone can use this, you just can't use the jumper cables unless you're an engineer. I have one of these on all my toons... although in thelatest patch (3.1.1) you no longer need flint & tinder or wood to make campfires so the usefullness of this tool was reduced as well. I had it on all my toons so they could all make fires (with wood in bags with it). Toons that were skinners got the use of the flint and tinder as well as the skinning knife, but now that same toon may as well just have a knife. For toons I have that mine and skin this is still a space saver and it goes without saying how useful this is for an engineer.

I was only curious which is better, the army knife or the XL cables? I am guessing the XL cables are still better but wouldn't mind hearing from anyone who has tested this out.

Kommentar von 296147

If you double click the icon it says Swissarmyknife in it.

So,what, are Gnomes from Sweden now?

WHAT WOULD WE CALL THEM NOW? GNOMDENS OR SWEEMS?

Kommentar von 359445

genuine or original? that's what wanna know.

Kommentar von Zuma

I can confirm that this works on pets, tested it a few minutes ago.

Kommentar von 323842

Let me voice my confusion. It's a knife that revives you. So you stab them and shock them to life, creating a burnt hole in their hopefully revived body. I think I'd rather stay dead cuz stab shocking does really sound like a good way to rez

Kommentar von 385587

Now all it needs is a mount vendor and we're good...

Kommentar von 308123

Don't downgrade my comment but...is there a way that I saw something nearly similar to this thing at BC ?

Kommentar von 439218

Patch 3.2

Think its 100% succes now! 4 tries so far, and all ressed!

Kommentar von 430501

it also has fuzzy handcuffs http://www.darklegacycomics.com/173.html

EDIT: forgot one thing well im a gnome gnomish engineer so. IF YOURE GONNA BE JUDGEMENTAL ABOUT GNOMISH CULTURE YOU CAN JUST MAKE YOUR OWN!

Kommentar von 461905

Nice little handy tool you could use like if your in a instance & tank and healers die (if your a hunter Feigh Death or rogue vanish) you could zap healer back to life

Kommentar von 333489

TBH this really needs One of THESE!

Kommentar von Morec0

Strangely, it lacks fuzzy handcuffs.

Kommentar von alloran

Does not work if you have 350 engineering but are not a Grand Master.

Kommentar von 129663

They probably didn't at the fishing pole as well, because you normally need to equip the fishing pole to fish, and all other stuff like skinning knife, mining pick, blacksmith hammer, ect. you can just use without equiping.

By Kingrames on 11/19/2008 (Patch 3.0.3)
Just so you could finally answer the immortal question, "HOW I MINE FOR FISH?11"Last edited by

The same immortal question you've got with the other stuff (How I mine for leather, How I mine for 'blacksmithstuff' / 'engineeringstuff', How I mine for cooking fires...) xD

Kommentar von 368690

weird, before the patch, it was rare for the knife not to work, but since the patch has gone live, i think i've been able to get them to work once. came by here to see if anything has changed...

Kommentar von 216216

So maybe just complete coincidence butt I have used this to attempt to res many people and so far out of maybe 200 uses I can't seem to remember a time that they have failed when using on a gnome. Did blizzard throw some little hidden secret in there for the use of these on gnomes or dose mine in particular just like the little people? If there is some hidden 100% res a gnome there just think of all the Gnome priest coming in the expansion. Because besides me there probably are not too many people that try these out on gnomes anyway since you would normally go for the healer first.

Kommentar von Flagg

Defibrillate (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=54732) cast in 4 sec!
Standard ress spells cast in 10 sec.

This can be used when you have less than 10 sec out of combat like in HoR between trash waves

Kommentar von 554110

My Engineer is also my hunter and this item can be used to Ress pets despite them not being players, I tested this myself by letting my pet get whacked and then BZZZCRAK ITS ALIVE! Engineering helps and saves mana once again.

Kommentar von aloroth

Hail Terry Pratchett

Kommentar von 194440

Hold on, why does a knife have a battery? What is it used for before you overload it?

Kommentar von 583663

These dont even work.

Kommentar von 564274

I would like to see them add Thieve's Tools and Mote Extractor to this item, then it truly would be an inventory saver.

Kommentar von 576760

I heard that if there is more than one Grand Master Engineer in your group, you could pass it around in case your attempt fails or there's more than one person to rez. Does anyone know if this is still true?

Kommentar von 444425

Somehow I feel that the chance for these to succeed are higher now than before. In the past few days I've had 100% success in dungeons and raids, whereas I used to fail consistently a few months ago. Any ideas?

Kommentar von Metalchic

i can confirm that you need to have the grandmaster engineering training (thus lv65 min) and not just have lv350+ engineering to use the jumper cables option.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It really does have a Gyromatic Micro-Adjuster, Arclight Spanner, Flint and Tinder, Blacksmithing Hammer, Mining Pick, and Skinning Knife!

If you’re an aspiring professional, this’ll definitely lighten your pack load. You won’t have to lug as many tools around.

Edited, Feb 21st 2009 10:24am by WoWArrowHead

Kommentar von Allakhazam

It tends to work best (like Jumper Cables) on anyone who DOES NOT Release. In fact if a Healer releases after a wipe I move to the next healer or whoever has not released. Most people might say it makes no difference but anyone who's used them alot knows it does. I'd have to say that a Corpse has a 60% chance to get rezzed and a Ghost only 40%.

As for the person who states the cost in Saronite the reason why they sell for 4-5g is you make about 15 to grey them out while leveling and every engineer that's smart mass produces them to level engineering. That said if I mine 10000 Saronite in a day, I have not lost any gold, if I decide to sell the Saronite I can make a profit but if I need to level a skill such as Engineering, Jewelcrafting or Blacksmithing and I am also a miner how exactly am I loosing money? Think before you post next time.

Edited, Nov 13th 2009 1:40am by Dynamite

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Anyone calculated the success % for this yet? I remember having better success with my basic jumper cables than the upgraded version and just wondering if this will be better.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ummm.. im no engineer but i am a miner and this Army Knife requires 10 Saronite Bars to make, thats 20g ...why would any engineer then auction it for just 4g? Please take my gold! lol

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