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Kommentar von Clausi

Angelbar in allen Gewässern Nordends (nicht Dalaran).
Es gibt wohl keine extra Schwärme, er wird zusammen mit anderen Fischen geangelt.

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Kommentar von 21795

Caught alongside catches from pools or open inland water in Northrend, except Dalaran. Full detail.

Kommentar von 29050

Pygmy Suckerfish are freshwater parasites, and are sometimes found attached to fish caught in open inland water in Northrend (except in Dalaran). They are used to create Pygmy oil, which is made by alchemists who create 1-2 oils per Pygmy Suckerfish. Most if not all alchemists should be able to create these oils, as it's trained early in Northrend.

Pygmy Oil is a reagent for a number of things including flasks and an alchemists stone. It's also drinkable, shrinking you slightly, and if you drink 6-10 oils you will get turned into a Pygmy.

Kommentar von 44972

I was fishing on the island just north of vegeance landing where the crabs are. They are there too.

Kommentar von 28916

I found them in Sholazar Basin at the marked lake. Drop rate was around 7%, so it took a while. There's no monsters in that area to bother you though.

Kommentar von gizmovision

Caught my first and then stacked to 12 before giving to a friend in the pool in the Taunka Outpost;Camp Winterhoof, in Howling Fjord
Caught several in Howling Fjord @ 78,16 that would be sea water there, so them parasites will live anywhere...

added new spot / sea water

Kommentar von 247114

what's the fishing skill required for these?

Kommentar von 34157

El's Extreme Anglin' Guide says 380 min, 475 to avoid getaways in the BT and HF zones.

http://www.elsanglin.com/skill_and_location.html

Kommentar von 141130

Standing just on the coast by Vengeance Landing (near the crabs) and casting into open water, the drop on these went something like this:

1st set of 100 catches included 10 Pygmy's

2nd set of 100 catches included 10 Pygmy's

3rd set of 100 catches included 16 Pygmy's

4th set of 100 catches included 11 Pygmy's

I then moved to Echo Cove (Borean Tundra)..and only got about 10 of these in over 200 catches

(ended up with 87 bottles of Pygmy oil, from the 57 fish )

Kommentar von 252527

Note that for the purposes of x Fish achievements (where x is 100, 500, 1000, etc.) that this counts as a second fish. So if you have 555 fish for the achievement and catch a Glacial Salmon + a Pygmy Suckerfish, you've now caught 557 fish.

Edit - Wanted to add that this does not count extra toward fishing skill ups, which are based on successful casts and clicks, not actually looting the fish. (You still get the skill ups whether you take the fish or not, just as long as you 'open' the bobber.)

Kommentar von 48886

Caught about 10 of them in 30 mins when fishing the mantaray pools outside Venegance Landing

Kommentar von Copybass

Ah, the good old "New Content, Fish Away for 10x Gold" applies to this as well.

I used to make all my money off Mudfish from Outlands, but this is my new income maker. At level 67, getting upwards of 5 gold a fish, and having a stack of 20 selling for 133g with the market deductions (On Emerald Dream), I'd say catching these fish are way worth it.

Of course, it'll take a while, but the results are good. It takes around 30 minutes to get a stack of 20, and a patient fisherman can leave with around 400g worth of Suckerfish, which is a fair profit margin, for just sitting around.

Kommentar von Venara

Been fishing for 40 Pygmy Suckerfish. Took me almost 3 hours and i got all this until i had all 40:

297x Bonescale Snapper
90x Dragonfin Angelfish
82x Musselback Sculpin
16x Rockfin Grouper
11x Borean Man O'War
9x Imperial Manta Ray
3x Reinforced Crate
4x Crystallized Water

40 Pygmy Suckerfish

= 512 (552 with PS) Fish

Droprate seems to be somewhere between 5-10%, though it seems to be a lot lower. Definitely worth it. Personally i need them for Flask of Pure Mojo and Guru's Elixir but at least on my server (Das Syndikat, EU) 1 Oil sells for about 50 gold at the auction house. Rare delicacy i would say.

Kommentar von Serrah

I noticed this as well fishing at vengence landing compared to fishing at other places. It might just be an anomaly but vengence landing seem to be one of the better spots for catching suckerfish.

Utgaarde keep has been the worst one sofar catching six with over 150 casts. Maybe it's chance or maybe the droprate is somewhat dependant on what sub-zone you are currently in like when you do the quest for artisan fishing.

Kommentar von Tabmoc

You do not have to be an Alchemist to catch these. Anyone is able to fish them up.

It is also possible to fish up a reinforced crate with one attached to it. (Don't confuse that with one IN the crate, that isn't possible, just only caught alongside of a crate)

Kommentar von Venara

I think a droprate that low can be called "rare" or at least uncommon.

The high demand itself is not a problem at all. The real problem is that fishing these things in numbers you can work with takes hours.

1 Fish = 1-2 Oil

Meaning that you'll need at least 30-40 of these to create a 20 stack of Guru's Elixir. Since those 20 elixirs will be used up rather quickly you'd have to go fishing again and again. Same goes for those flasks i mentioned earlier.

I also stated before that it took me about 3 hours to catch 40 of these. So you can see why i call these rare, right? It just takes too much time to farm enough of these for one's own needs.

So yes, the price is no suprise at all. I would even go as far as to call it a fair price for something you need so much time to farm for.

Kommentar von mommyclz

I might suggest the Emerald Dragonshrine in Dragonblight. I caught 26 bonescale snappers, 12 dragon angelfish, 8 mussleback sculpin and 3 crystalized waters - almost 40 casts. I came away with 6 pygmy suckerfish - thats 15% (if you can catch it with a crystalized water). Of course, small sample, could have been a fluke. But its a nice quiet spot, too - right near where the elite bird spawns for the quest.

Kommentar von Vashra

I'm sorry but this is not entirely correct - nor is El's Anglin post.

It is correct that pygmies do not have their own schools (you'll never see a "school of pygmy suckerfish").

However...

1) I have caught fish that had pygmy suckers with them on the *coasts* of Howling Fjord. Therefore the assertion that these can only be caught from "inland open waters" is incorrect.

2) I have caught fish *from coastal schools* on the east edge of howling fjord that had pygmy suckers attached. I do not yet know if this is unique to howling fjord or if this is true for schools of fish in other areas. There is a post from someone about catching 4 pygmies in 10 minutes out of *schools* of crystal minnows (or whatever the useless crystalsong fish is called).

3) Having said that - it *does* seem like my pygmy suckerfish chance is much better if I am fishing in general water rather than from a school of any given fish -- but again, it doesn't seem to matter if the water is inland or coastal.

4) I have not yet determined if the drop rate for suckers is any higher from "higher level" Northrend waters than the lower level Northrend waters. Given previous experience with such things, I expect the yield will be higher as the difficulty of fishing the water rises.

Edit 12/12/08 -- as of today I'm not catching *any* sucker fish out of schools of other fish - after three hours of solid school fishing all over Northrend. Open waters even if coastal still applies.

Kommentar von 70338

Don't know if this would make a difference or not, but I found that by not fishing from schools my success rate inceased dramatically. I started my NR fishing going after schools of Nettlefish in Scholazar Basin. After about 500 catches I had 15 suckerfish. Poo.

I got the recipe for Snapper Extreme and decided to fish them from the northern edge of Lake Kum'Uya in Borean Tundra. After 120 catches I had 15 suckerfish. Yay. I did not move from the spot the entire time.

In the interest of science I repeated my trial. Same spot, same time, didn't move. After 150 catches I had 19 suckerfish. Yay again.

The next day, same time, same place, 100 catches, 12 suckerfish. Huzzah!

Possible explanations:

1) I'm just lucky. Go me. Maybe this is Blizz's way of compensating me for NEVER getting the dungeon drops I need (feel free to laugh at my pain). On the other hand, I'm pretty sure they have it out for me regardless. Life as a rogue.
2) Standing in one spot helps your chances. Doesn't seem likely, but results don't lie. Except in WoW and politics (take that comment however you want).
3) Increasing your fishing skill increases you chances of catching suckerfish. Seems unlikely as I can fish BT waters with no fishing buffs beyond my fishing Pole (Seth's Graphite with Eternium Line). The drop rate did not increase if I had a Sharpened Fish Hook on the line.
4) Daytime fishing increases your chances. Possible, I haven't tested fishing at night vs. day. I have also not tested at length in saltwater, although as indicated by other posters in this thread they CAN be caught in saltwater. When I get a recipe that's useful to me which utilizes saltwater fish, I may give it a go.

Would love someone else to give this a shot to confirm/deny. Whatever the reason, this is a big moneymaker as many alchemists would rather farm herbs than while away the day fishing. Cheers and happy fishing.

Edit: I kin not spel gud.

Kommentar von delete

Just fished one of these up from a school of Fangtooth Herring in Howling Fjord, so yes, you can get these from schools.

Kommentar von 20383

After fishing in Daggercap bay just north/east of Valgarde off a rock for an hour (between 10-11pm server time, if time matters) I managed to rake in 16 of these suckers.

I also got
Bonescale Snapper x87
Fangtooth Herring x39
Glacial Salmon x25
As well as two crates, one with 4 Borean Leather Scraps and the other with 2 Frostweave Cloth.

Edit: Switched toons to craft something for a guildy and when I came back (same spot) to fish for roughly another hour I hit a horrible dry spell for 30-40min, then I got 3 within 5 casts and a few later on. Logging off broke my decent streak :(

Kommentar von 146905

It seems that most people are catching these in Howling Fjord, but I caught quite a few fishing off the coast in Borean Tundra in Schools of fish there.

Kommentar von 71891

I don't seem to be having any luck fishing at the northern lakes in the snowy areas of HF. Any chance that it's "too cold" for the parasites?

Kommentar von 45010

Oddly enough, you can fish these up simultaneously with crystallized water.

Kommentar von LumiyaSpellsong

Thank you for this tip. After catching only 3 in an hour around Utgarde Keep, I moved to Vengeance Landing. I tried fishing off the coast near crabs within Vengeance Landing (so it said VL on my minimap) but wasn't having much luck so I moved just outside along the coast so that my mini map changed to Howling Fjord at 78.78, 24.48 and caught 13 in an hour. Definitely worth changing spots for.

Kommentar von 177291

The drop rate from these in pools will skyrocket with patch 3.08, apparently to about 50% of catches. Obviously prices will collapse.

Since I am several thousand casts in howling fjord seeking the dark herring i have piles of theses, I'm selling them off as fast as I can and I suggest you do the same.

Kommentar von clifford

This is correct. You will generally catch pygm when fishing outside of pools.

Kommentar von 21795

Catches in unnamed coastal waters are the same as catches from inland water. This is a longstanding Northrend "glitch" that applies to all fishing. Coastal areas that have a specific name contain "coastal" fish.

3.0.8 adds Pygmy Suckerfish to Northrend pools as bonus catches - rarely from Glassfin Minnow School, commonly from other pools.

Kommentar von rooter

I've been getting them 80% of the time with Glacial Salmon.
Sells yours on the AH before they are worthless.

Kommentar von 307992

I just logged in today after the patch went live, went to Grizzly Hills and caught 20 Salmon from pools. From that 20 Salmon I also caught 16 Pygmy Suckerfish.

I don't know if this is a mistake from the patch or if the drop rate has really increased this much. I'm on my way to catch some other fish to see if the same has happened elsewhere.

Kommentar von 286836

Same in Patch 3.0.8, these are getting fished up like crazy in all the pools. I got 2 stacks from nettlefish and glacial salmon pools.

Kommentar von Kaliope

14 out of 18 catches post-3.0.8

Kommentar von 295207

I think Blizzard increased the drop rate of the suckerfish.

I fished in 5 schools:
School 1(Dragonfin Angelfish)
4 Angelfish
3 Pygmy Suckerfish

School 2 (Dragonfin Angelfish)
3 Angelfish
3 Suckerfish

School 3 (Glacial Salmon)
4 Salmon
3 Suckerfish

School 4 (Glacial Salmon)
3 Salmon
1 Suckerfish

School 5 (Glacial Salmon)
4 Salmon
4 Suckerfish

Total: 7 Angelfish, 11 Salmon, 14 Suckerfish

Kommentar von silicon

been getting these fish almost with every cast in basin and grizzly hills (only two i tested so far)

Kommentar von CallMeVlad911

I've caught noticeably more of these since patch 3.08 came out.

Kommentar von 234409

Yes, since 3.08, the fish-rate for these was silently increased or is bugged. I have been in the Tundra fishing Mussleback Sculpin for about 30 minutes. I have caught 66 Sculpin and 53 Pygmy fishing pools in Lake Kum'uya.

I have the Croc fishing daily sitting in my quest log, so i am not sure if the bug with this quest is affecting rate.

Edit:

120 Mussleback from pools in Tundra
95 Pygmy from same pools in Tundra

I moved to the Basin for Nettlefish and the same fish-rate seems to apply.

Kommentar von 74015

Confirmed! Pygmy Suckerfish drop-rate is now greatly increased. In schools of fish the drop-rate appears to be allmost 40-45%.

Kommentar von 70338

I've found that any school has an amazing drop rate on these now. I was getting close to 75% at one point fishing Cuttlefish/Monsterbelly south of Unupe. More like 50% in other schools in Borean, Grizzly Hills, and Howling Fjord. Even had some attached to crates and crystallized water. Can't say I'm happy, this used to be a big money maker for me, but oh well.

Kommentar von 310460

These seem to drop 95% with Glacier Salmon pools. I caught over 100 Salmon and collected close to 90 Pygmies so I don't know what the others are talking about. Just fish the salmon and you will get the pygmies.

Fish the Salmon in Grizzly Hills. Look up Glacier Salmon and you will see all the fishing places.

Kommentar von fibulator

I caught several of these in schools of fish in Zanglemarsh post 3.0.8.

Kommentar von 96053

Confirmed increase in Dargonblight pools also. I fish in the pools at both Lake Indu'le and at the Westwind refugee camp - and I was catching nearly 1 for 1. I caught 27 Angelfish and 20 Pygmy's. I have fished these pools before and have never gotten any Pygmy's at those locations.

Kommentar von rzzr

These fish are now becoming a pain. They fill up your bags and the AH is flooded with them, so much so that before long it will be cheaper to sell them as vendor trash.
I am not sure what Blizz's idea was behind this but they might as well take the fish out of the game. With the new fish feast recipe everyone is going to be pulling stacks of these out of the water!

Kommentar von 5338

As of patch 3.0.8a, the droprate for these is still extremely high. Just fishing in Imperial Manta Ray schools is yielding more Pygmy Suckerfich than Manta Rays.

Kommentar von Alecat

Confirmed that the salmon schools yeild nearly as much pygmys as salmon.. much easier to fish schools of other fish with a high drop rate than regular water and hope you get the type you want.

Kommentar von Alecat

Not anymore.

An hour and a half or so of fishing in only Glacial Salmon schools gave me:

Glacial Salmon x 73
Pygmy Suckerfish x 60

Kommentar von 288022

If you are a herby with maxxed fishing the droprate increase is just made of win. Turn em to Pygmy oil and then make a Flask of Mighty Mojo or Potion of Speed(I find these sell better and high end guilds sup on these like candy) Else see if any of your friends will buy these off you in bulk to make speed pots :-) not everyone can be bothered with fishing :-P

Kommentar von 238959

i don't get the discussion of rarity. I've been fishing in pools all over Northrend and the things keep popping up. Auctioneer says they're valuable, but I've never sold a single stack at multiple prices I've tried. Does anyone really buy these or are they really vendor trash in disguise?

Kommentar von 252039

Have an alchemist turn them into Pygmy Oil, which inturn is one of the materials needed for 5 different items:
* Indestructible Alchemist Stone
* Flask of Pure Mojo
* Guru's Elixir
* Potion of Speed
* Potion of Wild Magic

Kommentar von 316606

I only catch these fish inside of schools... so... i don't think that is true, sry.

Kommentar von Geekgirl101

I found I was catching this nearly 50% of the time along with Nettlefish in the Rainspeaker Rapids near Frenzyheart Hill. After 3 pools I had a full stack of Nettlefish and Pygmy Suckerfish.

Kommentar von 72359

A great spot to farm these is the Lake of Indu'le near the bay of Moa'Ki.
There are schools of Dragon Angelfish, nearly every time you loot a fish out of a school, you also get a suckerfish.

Kommentar von Kinni

Drop rate is nearly 75-80% off any cast, anywhere in Northrend. Just finished farming a stack of fish feast (120 total fish) caught 93 Pygmy Suckerfish. 77.5% rate

Kommentar von 17976

If you look next to the name of the person who posts, it tells you what build they posted during.

If you bother to take that into account you would see that they were talking about how rare this fish was before 3.08 when the drop rate was dramatically increased and they were added to school loot tables.

Kommentar von retro

Confirmed, you can also have them attached to Crystallized Water when you fish them up from schools.

Kommentar von 106514

These things drop like friggin' flies now off just about any node in Northrend. I know they drop off of about every Manta Ray you catch out of Imperial Manta nodes. I used to be able to sell a stack for around 95g pre-patch. I went to the AH a few days ago....5g for 20. Thanks Blizz, a cash cow has been sent to slaughter!

Kommentar von 323683

This is not always the case.

If you want a spectacular drop rate, fish in Nettlefish Schools in Sholazar Basin. You'll get one just about every time along side a Nettlefish or Barrelhead Goby (amongst other random drops - Reinforced Crate and Crystalized Water for example).

Nettlefish will get you some good money as well in the AH - anywhere from 50g to 99g for a stack of 20. Barrelhead Goby, not so much - anywhere from 5g to 20g for a stack of 20. In either case, it's still a good way to get some extra cash or leveling cooking and/or alchemy.

Happy Fishing!
-Cenn

Kommentar von 319265

i did fly to Grizzly hills, and then i started to fish near blue sky logging grounds, i did fish up many bonescale snapper but only 1 pygmy suckerfish, i got tierd, so i tryed to fish in those *Glacial Salmon School* and i did fish up 15 glacial salmon and 11 pygmy suckerfish, so you get more pygmy suckerfish from fishing in Glacial salmon school, or else i just had very much luck :) i hope this will help you when you shall farm pygmy sucherfish

Kommentar von 364106

Not sure why these fish are so ubiquitous now, but it's put a dent in my fishing auction revenues. With the prices so slow on the AH, it's barely worth more than just vendoring them.

Kommentar von kicken

For those with a large excess of these fish that you cannot sell, it's worth it to get them converted into pygmy oil and then sell that to a vendor instead of selling the fish directly.

20-stack of pygmy oil sells for 1.5g;
20-stack of pygmy sucker fish sells for a mere 10s.

All you have to do is toss them to an alchemist alt (or friend) and spend some time converting them. No vials or anything are needed for the process. I will just mail them all to my alt, and occasionally gather them all up, click create all and afk for a while while it goes, then vendor all the oil.

Kommentar von 179171

I just did some fishing in schools.

Out of 50 catches. 40 Suckerfish dropped.
That was fishing only in Imperial Manta Ray schools.

Makes sense, seeing as the original "Sucker Fish", called Bluestreak Cleaner Wrass are most commonly found on larger fish including Sharks and Ray's.
"Cleaner Wrass" live off dead skin, and ectoparasites that live on all marine animals. The Cleaner Wrass remains only briefly, cleaning its host in a Mutualist Relationship. Cleaner Wrass is also the fish that Oscar from Shark Tale (2004), played by Will Smith, was based on.

A little bit of triva, for our everyday lives.

Kommentar von Davonnte

I noticed that these can also be fished from Imperial Manta Ray schools found along the coast of Howling Fjord. Almost 100% fish rate for me. =]

Kommentar von 381568

Finishing for 30 minutes in the Decrepit Flow in Crystalsong Forest w/ fishing skill of 575 (so no trash or missed casts), I got:

71 bonescale snapper
42 glassfin minnow
1 crystalized water
13 pygmy suckerfish
2 reinforced crates (which had 2 pieces of frostweave cloth each)

also- if you are going to fish here, walk a bit into the water to avoid "water too shallow"

Kommentar von 128924

2 hours of fishing in Borean Tundra from Musselback Sculpin shools in Lake Kum'uya gave me 142 Musselback Sculpin and 107 Pygmy Suckerfish. I also got the odd grey vendor trash as well, sea weed drift wood. I was taking my time, and once in a while another fisherman was there.

Kommentar von justgiz

Even if you dont want the Pygmy Oil, have a alchemist convert your Suckerfish because:

1 Suckerfish sells for 50 copper
1 Suckerfish makes 1-2 oils
1 Pygmy Oli sells for 7 silver 50 copper

Kommentar von 178435

I've been fishing in Wintergrasp for a couple of hours today. After completely filling my bags (about 96 slots), I haven't seen a single Pygmy Suckerfish. Thoughts?

Kommentar von 100563

I got Pygmy Suckerfish about 2 times out of every 3 casts when fishing in Glacial Salmon pools in Grizzly Hills. Seems like a good place :).

Kommentar von Marihan

Taken from the newest 3.3 Patch Notes Update for the PTR (10/23) :

The all-new Kalu’ak Fishing Derby, a test of fishing skill with a healthy dash of luck, has come to Northrend! Every Wednesday beginning at 8 PM players can try to catch the elusive Blacktip Shark. Elder Clearwater sits in Dalaran for one hour awaiting the return of the quickest, most experienced fisher to bring him this shark. This champion fisher will be rewarded in-kind for returning with the first catch. Those who aren’t able to return with the first catch will still receive just reward for getting the Blacktip Shark to Elder Clearwater before he takes his leave. It is said that these sharks’ favorite meal are the bite-sized Pygmy Suckerfish. Perhaps a hook in their waters will do the trick.

TL;DR Version:
- New Fishing Competition
- the target is the Blacktip Shark
- it is hinted you will find it only / the most in regions where you would also get Pygmy Suckerfish while fishing
- if you don't win ( = be the first to bring him the shark), don't be discouraged, you still get a reward for catching it at all

Notice that all of this is subject to change as this feature is not available on live yet.

Kommentar von 279627

Was the drop rate for these things lowered? Out of 20 casts today I only got before, whereas up until now I would get at least 5 or 6. I've noticed this dearth of pygmies in fishing in general. What's up?

Kommentar von 398745

i fished up in fangtooth herring school's for the dark herring the result is:
234 fangthooth herring
194 pygmy suckerfish

Kommentar von 457442

it really SUCKS to find these....it really SUCKS to get them because they take up my bag...i hate when im fishing my dailies and i get them all the time...it really ...sucks

Kommentar von 255993

Caught 3 in about 2 minutes in a school of Imperial Manta Ray's at Sorlof's Strand on the coast of Howling Fjord.

Edit: That doesn't seem impressive to me anymore since I get them off of nearly every drop from the schools of Imperial Manta Ray's in this area. Out of 20 Imperial Manta Ray's from the schools I got 15 suckerfish.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Fished them up with angelfish in the lake NW of Moaki Harbor

Kommentar von Allakhazam

sometimes found attached to barrelhead goby in sholazar basin waters.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Attached to the Bonescale Snappers in the pool at the bottom of Steel Gate in Howling Fjord

Edited, Dec 2nd 2008 2:20am by Torylori

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Fish in a node - I get them all the time when I fish from nodes. The nodes I have seen them in were in borean tundra (imperial manta ray, borean man o'war), howling fjord (imperial manta ray), scholozar basin (nettlefish) and dragonblight (nettlefish). They were also attached to some nettlefish I found in borean tundra.

Edited, Feb 5th 2009 4:11am by flamebright

Kommentar von Lotimar

They seem to drop only from schools of any type

Kommentar von FlizzyDuck

Today I went for Glacial Salmon Schools in Grizzly Hills, following the inland river.

After roughly 1 hour and 15 minutes, my results were:
- 144x Glacier Salmons
- 100x Pygmy Suckerfish
- 11x Reinforced Crates
- 8x Crystallized Water

All things considered, not too bad. As a bonus, Glacier Salmons are also used for crafting Feuerkracherlachs and Fischmahl.

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