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Kommentar von Carighan

This seems too good to be true. *drools*
I bet the materials will be a major pain to get, and I could probably get the needed Arena rank for a comparable Dagger twice in the time, but it is very nice to see they are finally upgrading Blacksmithing to be useful.

Kommentar von 8670

This would be a nice worthwile off hand dagger for rogues, and i do agree its nice to see that blizzard is buffing blacksmithing.

Kommentar von 5928

The base materials for this weapon come out to 60 Fel Iron Ore, 40 Eternium Ore, 8 each of Primal Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Mana, and the 2 Primal Nether, which drop from high level instance bosses.

You'll also need someone to perform the Primal Might transmute, which is on a 24 hour cooldown. However, it is purchasable from a vendor in Shattrath City, so it shouldn't be difficult to find a few people who will do it for a reasonable price.

While it's impossible to say anything about the price of these materials prior to release of the expansion, what we can say is that none of the materials are exotic, and (with the exception of the Primal Nether) should be readily available on the auction house for competetive prices. The materials for this weapon seem much more accessible than those for items like the Arcanite Reaper (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=12784) were on live (using 20 3-day transmutes which required rare-drop gems from veins available only in the highest level areas of the game).

Overall, I expect the cost of assembling this weapon is going to be much less prohibitive than high level weapons were in the past, which will in turn make this recipe very valuable. In fact, finding somebody to craft this item will certainly be the most difficult task of all, early on.

Kommentar von 14668

Agreed, nice for the offhand and also nice to see that crafted items will be more comparable to those from raiding/pvp, hopefully this is an indication of a better itemization trend for tradeskills, in particular weaponsmithing. Would be nice if it had some sockets as well, but can't have everything I suppose.

Kommentar von 21721

Ferras I agree. Blizz are definately picking up they're game as far as making the high-end craftable's actually worth it, which it rarely was pre-BC.

Kommentar von 15151

I got one of these crafted, and it is amazing, so far better than any of the rep reward daggers. It took about a day of farming for the primal mats, 8 days to get them crafted, and in the mean time doing couple instance runs to get the nethers for the crafter. It has been a great dagger so far, very very nice for combat daggers builds.

Kommentar von Gibbet

Dirge is possibly the most accessable and realiable way to get a Combat Rogue into the raid scene.The DPS and its speed makes it a remarkable weapon for prolonged Boss battles, although combat potency talents will form the corner stone of this weapons potential it does merit a second glance and comparrison to the other Daggers available.

From the list of Rep gained and looted Daggers this isnt as painful to get crafted as it first appears. its totally free of intesive rep grinding regardless of the win or lose story incorperated with Instances, This could become a very popular no frills get the job done step for many players.

Ive seen a fair amount of nice offhand daggers, the Scryers and Consoritum epics fit the role but theyre still a little slower than this.

Kommentar von 3ceph0los

Aanar in Agrammar can make Dirge

Kommentar von 9818

Raw materials are:
60 Fel Iron Ore and 40 Eternium Ore for the Felsteel Bars.
80 Motes of Earth, 80 Motes of Water, 80 Motes of Air, 80 Motes of Fire, 80 Motes of Mana for the Primal Might.
2 Primal Nether.

Kommentar von Zanka

In the next patch(2.10) the mats gonna be:
10Khorium Bars, 8Primal Mights, 10Felsteel Bars and 4Primal Nether

Kommentar von 28437

The fact is, you don't NEED this dagger to get into Karazhan, and the Dirge is only slightly better than the Emerald Ripper, and not as good as Blade of the Unrequited or Malchazeen (two other daggers that have a good chance of dropping in Karazhan). On my server, the mats for this dagger are worth 1000g alone... add in the 8 days required to create the Primal Mights, I really don't believe this dagger is worth it.

Kommentar von 29517

I would agree you dont need this dagger to get into kara. However for a combat rogue this dagger is hands down the best choice compared to Emerald ripper or Blade of Unrequited. This dagger was made as the perfect OH for a combat rogue.

Kommentar von Truffles

I use the searing sunblade, avalible from heroic vendor for 50 marks. It has a 1,30 speed compared to the 1,40 for this one. With maxed combat potency, this means that in a fight that lasts 5 minutes with you constantly hitting on the target, this dagger will give 214,3 offhand swings, where as the searing sunblade will give 230,8 offhand swings. With an average of 3 energy per hit (if you do hit them all), searing sunblade will give 49 more energy in that 5 minute fight, but you will lose 17 attackpower, and about 10 critrating, but gain 21 stamina. This weapon also has 2,4 more DPS. Damn, I should try to get this one.

Kommentar von 49008

Has anyone tried Tanking with this?
It's the fastest 1h weapon above 80 dps.
It has no tanking stats though.
Other Dagger options IMO are Timeslicer and warp splinter's thorn.
They are lower dps but they have tanking stats.

Any opinions on tanking with daggers?

Kommentar von 46914

I've been dual wielding these for a while now. Getting some pretty nice DPS off of them and poison applications are quick. I just got both of them enchanted with Mongoose, and they are insane. If I start out with a CS I can usually have poison in my off hand stacked all the way on the target before they become unstunned. They work pretty well for backstab, but realy, I don't use it that much.

Kommentar von 24754

Feltooth Eviscerator - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=29346
from Heroic Ramparts is a very comparable weapon, and probably easier to obtain if you have a good group. It's higher DPS, same speed, slightly more crit, but 6 less attack power.

Kommentar von LordRao

I find the Riftmaker dagger from the Keepers of Time a comparable case: you would need to grind thoem up to Exalted, which would net you the weapon for a small fee. It would cost you considerably less money, but actually grinding any faction, and especially one like the KoT, up to any reasonable level takes ages, in my experience. The Dirge is quite a simple weapon to get, and will keep you going very well until you have the luxury of choosing a high rep/low droprate dagger (if not actually being better).

Kommentar von Chicken

The nice thing about this dagger is that it's craftable. Farming the mats will get you this dagger, assuming you find a blacksmith.

This leaves you to save your arena pts for that shiny MH or heroic badges for the nice trinket or even DKP(if you even use that) for a nice epic MH from KZ.

For a raid starter gear set this isn't bad at all.

Kommentar von 88640

On my server (Sylvanas) this is the most spammed weapon in the entire server. Anyday if i just pop into and major city, it always appears Dirge :) i dunno whats funny about but it sure looks like hell =)
comments like "Knock, knock" "Who's there" "Dirge" always appears and comments like it =) really annoying and blizzard doesn't seem to care :(

Kommentar von 9674

Dirge is the fastest Offhand BoE Dagger you can buy.
You can use this Combat Daggers Rogue's Raid Build:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent=f0gc0xZbeV0rEz0MMotV

Kommentar von Thaspraya

This item has been spammed in trade chat for 15 hours(And is still being spammed) on the Auchindoun - EU realm. People love it.

Kommentar von Shunta

Spread the word, use as an expression on your server!! It fits in everywhere "Zomg, I just d (owned) that guy!!" or "Hahahha that is so y (funny)" Or, "I just d (loled)", or "You (Douch)bag!"

This is the most common expression on the EU realm Bloodfeather!

// Shunta @ Bloodfeather

Kommentar von Milker

On our server, skullcrusher eu horde, loads of people have been spamming links to this item in trade channel for 2 days in a row now, making others angry :D Noone really knows why this is going or how it started ... Personally I kinda like that kinda of spontaneous crazy stuff :p

Kommentar von 88528

If you see many spam with jokes with this dagger on your server, you should now that it's very normal :)

Kommentar von Kastaje

As many may know this item is a popular thing to spam about in trade chat. If you want to get rid of the spam try downloading addons like:

Kommentar von tarsakh

One of the best weapons for a fury warrior to have outside of Black Temple. swap this in when boss mob is around execute range, and your dps will skyrocket. due to the decent dps, and very low attack speed, you are able to generate more than enough rage to spam execute every GCD with extra rage to spare to boost the damage.

People that think this is rogue only, need to open their eyes.

Kommentar von 141474

Why is spammed???

Kommentar von Selim

As quoted from WoWWiki

Recently, this item has been spammed excessively on trade channels over a large number of realms. Apparently, it started with someone at an unknown RP-realm who intended to sell this weapon with a more commercialistic approach: "Making with or without your materials. get yours today! It's tastic!". Shortly after people started to use this concept by making words of their own, preferably swear-words, though this lasted only a short time, and has now progressed into people simply spamming the item link where it can be used to "enhance" certain famous quotes, slogans or other common sentences to their own amusement

Some examples of Dirge spam:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8138/dirge1yt9.jpg

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1751/dirge2cl5.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6910/dirge3zr1.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2275/dirge4tm2.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7848/dirge5gb1.jpg

Kommentar von 98460

I've been eyeing this dagger as an Assassin rogue, thinking of a high poison proc rate. It seems like a good choice for me, as I'm smelly rich, but I'm curious if I can equip two of these. Anyone know if that's do-able before I waste more money?

Kommentar von agelos

Well in my realm ppl got bored of dirge...but see the good side:some jokes with dirge are nice but some really suck

Kommentar von Zaphiron

Just to illustrate how far the Dirge spam got out of hand, my warrior actually wanted to sell this weapon (he is a blacksmith) and when I announced it in the trade channel I got spammed by whispers of people threatening to report me for spamming. Life's little irony I guess.

Kommentar von bradb

I wold say this is the next best offhand dagger for a rogue coming second to the pvp dagger..

Kommentar von 75756

Just 1 thing... xD

Nice stats... got it on my rouge.

Kommentar von 145840

This is currently a usefull dagger for mutilate if you do not have acces to raid weapons. The fact that it is fast and the fact that is has both Crit rating and attack power make it a good started weapon, even dual wield.

Reasons to use this weapon:
More Focused Attacks Procs
-More mutilates
More Poison Procs (instant + deadly)
-Bigger overall dps
Additional crit for additional Focused Attacks proc

Reasons to not use this weapon:
Less burst damage for PvP
Better weapons avaible in easy raids

It could however still be a good idea to take these off in cities, due to the spam.

This is focused in a rogues view, as we're most likely the only class using daggers with melee / ranged dps stats.

Kommentar von Breakcoke

According to Shadowpanther, this weapon is now the 10th best mutilate MH. The others are listed in Shadowpanther's Mutilate Weapon chart

Kommentar von Doroo

FTW!

Kommentar von 498279

i see this linked in trade alot, linked to something in rear end

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Crafting on Suramar (A)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this baby. Gimme a call =)

sn: puddingpopp

server: destromath

fraction: alliance

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm looking to have one made on Kael'Thas, horde side. Have all the mats, but haven't had any luck finding a capable smith with nethers to use. Please get back to Aerandire in game if you can make one :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

on Silvermoon server, Alliance.
Tradechannel.. Never Ever Mention this dagger.

People go crazy over it :)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

My friend is selling the Plans for theese on Dunemaul server.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this on the server Terenas, alliance side

/w henkydoodle

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Our tank got this

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I recommend going for the Gladiator's Shiv (click) which is VERY easy to get, the price has been dropped to around 1150 arena points.. you can get this in about 2-4 weeks of 5v5 arena, even with a horrible team.

Edited, Mar 13th 2007 7:17pm by qplazm

Edited, Mar 13th 2007 7:17pm by qplazm

Kommentar von Allakhazam

server :AQ
nick :azrail (horde) can craft it. wisp him or (in game) mail to him

Kommentar von Allakhazam

May the be with you C:

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Also you can grind money while in a 5v5 arena team, you need atleast 10 matches in the week to get points, done in no-time.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

All I can say this has to be the greatist dagger that is crafted ever....

Kommentar von Allakhazam

removed

Edited, Jul 14th 2007 2:55am by easonra

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Not really.. OH maybe but its 1.4 speed, the suckage for MH

Kommentar von Allakhazam

On http://www.realmhistory.net you can view who can craft this on your realm or add yourself as a crafter;

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this on >> Twilight´s Hammer << on Sartok

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this on Exectus, msg Cmarison or send an in game mail.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Craftable by blacksmiths, great little offhand dagger.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Ras on Hyjal can make this pst me

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Edit: sorry for double post!

Edited, Feb 4th 2007 8:19am by Sondretard

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can craft this on Grim Batol EU - Fizzeh

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Make love, not Dirge...

Yes, the most spammed Item in Trade Channel on Haumarush - Horde

Kommentar von Allakhazam

On my server you just can't link this dagger in the trade channel, cause it will be linked over and over again by almost every single online player in every single context.
Examples:
FTW!
Have you seen the size of my ?

And if anyone responses with something like "reported" you get things like:
Shove it up your

Its great fun :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Start collecting your motes soon as you enter outlands you can have half these mats easy b4 70

Kommentar von Thottbot

I didnt know thottbot was used for trading purposes. Isnt that just abusing it? If you want something crafted go post on the WoW forums and dont spam this place up with "oh craft for me" when people are actually looking for some decent information on stuff.

Kommentar von Thottbot

I got this baby a couple of months ago. the dps is fantastic and the stats are even better than those of the merciless gladiator's shiv. Obviously, the dps and median dmg of the arena dagger beats this thing by far, but ive been very happy with it as a prereq to getting my arena blades.

Overall, get for ur early stages of 70 but upgrade to the merc shiv when u can.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Everyone on my server (Khadgar) goes like DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE, IM GONNA DIRGE YOUR MOM BLAH BLAH.. in trade channel.

Kommentar von Thottbot

The most trade channel spammed item on Sylvanas

Kommentar von Thottbot

Khadgar EU sees Dirge spam in /2 almost daily. I pity anyone actually wanting it crafted.

Kommentar von Thottbot

A) why is thott's AH value of plans only 900g and B) why is the "cost to make" value of almost all of these freakin epic craftables much lower than the real value. Lets say a universal cost of primal might is 80g, which is low for my server, but I'm trying to be conservative. We'll even say felsteel bars are only 10g (more like 15-25 on my server) and khorium bars are 4g each (8 for me). 8x80=640, 10x10=100, 10x4=40, 640+100+40=780g. Not 224.92g. Even if you look at AH values of mats according to thott itself (8g/khorium, 14g/felsteel, 90g/primal might) it's MORE than that! So why don't they take their own ah values of mats and add them up to get the true "cost to make" of these weapons?

Kommentar von Thottbot

On European server Bloodhoof, oldest European server, this is spammed massively on trade channel EVERY DAMN DAY

Kommentar von Thottbot

dirge dont sleep.... it waits

Kommentar von Thottbot

Saw the weirdest thing the other day on Haomarush. Everyone was spamming '' which wasnt particularly odd, but the Dirge in question wasnt the normal one. It was clearly some bug/hack as it had

+6 bow skill
+1 Two Handed Sword skill
+1 damage (scope)

in addition to its normal stuff. Now im not an expert on item agumentation, but you cant stick scopes on melee weapons. And +1 skill in two handed swords is so pointless.
It must have been some sort of bug/hack. Has anyone seen it?

Kommentar von Thottbot

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this is a dirge spammer once one of the people who are genuinly trying to buy/sell this wep and get reported for saying "Wts " and get a 1 month bann for it gets hold of em!.....LOSERS!..oh btw.. DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE DIRGE!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Knock knock... Who's there? DIRGE

Kommentar von Thottbot

I came, I saw, I dirged

Any more?

Kommentar von Thottbot

When I was younger, was respected, my son!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Everybody on my realm (balnazzar) spam dirge.
-suck my dirge
-tremble mortals and despair DIRGE has come to this world to consume us all
-don't touch my dirge
......
There is also a guild named dirge and alot chars with dirge in their names :)

Krompir from balnazzar realm

BTW MY DIRGE IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dirge - Whenever you kill a diseased target that yields experience or honor you have a 1/2/3/4/5% chance of the corpse riding as a free Ghoul. You can have a maximum of 2 Ghouls at one time. - WotlK alpha leech
TEH DAYS OF DIRGE WONT BE OVER IN WOTLK!

Kommentar von Thottbot

Dirge

Kommentar von Thottbot

Arathor, EU. I don't understand idiots doing dirg jokes all the time on trading channel. Same joke again and again, the one that was not funny even the first time. Most of the general population is stupid is the only explanation

Kommentar von Thottbot

WTB dirge

Kommentar von Thottbot

I have never understood the fun with this item. Why has it become so "legendary"?

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