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评论来自 Nykylai

It took me just under 1500 casts to get Old Ironjaw, and under 30 to get Old Crafty. I am also horde so had my fair share of being ganked.

The drop rate is fine as it is.

评论来自 Alaynisha

I would be very disappointed if they were to change these to be faction specific or change the drop rates. They're meant to be rare fish. They're meant to be rare achievements. Not everyone is supposed to gain every achievement in the game unless they put a lot of effort into it.

I just caught Old Crafty in Orgrimmar (NE Druid) and am quite proud of the fact that between the ganking and my persistence (with the help of some pure dumb luck) I managed to pull it off. It's easy to sit in a "safe" place and fish to your heart's content until you get lucky with a drop. It's truly an achievement to pull it off in a city of the opposing faction with the threat of constant death at your back (and front, and sides).

If they were going to change them to be faction specific, I would really hope that it was Alliance needs to fish up Old Crafty in Org, while Horde need to fish up Old Ironjaw in IF. Personally, I hope they keep it for both though. Still working on my Old Ironjaw, 1100 casts and counting.

评论来自 202235

Took me 1,069 casts to get Old Crafty - Fished in the Valley of Honor at 65,25 (behind the rocks)

643 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers
166 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
246 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
5 - Lesser Healing Potion
3 - Lesser Mana Potion
Three 17 Pound Catfish
Two 19 Pound Catfish
Old Crafty

23 HKs and 4 Deaths

-
Easybakeoven of Aggramar

评论来自 Zentraedi

Just fished him up in Org. I'm Alliance. Amazingly, took only about 10 attempts!

Maybe they changed the drop rate, and maybe I'm really, really, really, really lucky. :)

Once you get into The Valley of the Spirits, run behind the Mage Trainer Hut. It's a great place to hide and you can cast your line if you're facing the way you came in.

Good luck!

评论来自 94822

A recommended place for alliance to fish here with a minimal chance of getting killed is approx here:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/maps=1637:356893
It should be behind a tree and a rock in the Valley of Spirits.

评论来自 68432

Sure challenge can be fun but its not fun to sit well over 12 hours in a city fishing....

评论来自 Brinatoo

After 178 fishing attempts, ding! Despite which city your in, just put on some music and talk to guildies/look at info to keep you interested for the moment. If that doesn't sufface just go to the conveniently placed bg's and take out your stress on others.

Tip: I am not sure if Ironforge illuminates the water as it moves, but fish facing south in Org if you want less eye cramps.

评论来自 233042

Achievement earned by Hidesato (Suicidal Tendencies) on 21/10/2008 Horde-Tyrande (EU)

After 611 fishing attempts I completed the achievement!

评论来自 7577

I wonder whether the drop rate of Old Crafty might have been raised in 3.0.2; I caught him in 3 casts. I've fished in Org many many times over the years (not sure when he was introduced) and never caught him. Then last night I decided to try to catch him. I settled in for a few hours of fishing and ended up only being there for a minute or two.

评论来自 232212

I just watched an alliance character get 25 Fish, and about 5 casts later he lands this. I'm sure I'm over 500 already with no luck.

评论来自 Nipah

There are two possible choices for fishing up both of these fish.

Ironforge:
The Mystic Ward - Right in front of the mage trainers there is a pool of water. This is a rather good spot for the Alliance, as most people seem to only fish in the Forlorn Cavern... for the Horde, it's suicide.

The Forlorn Cavern - Pretty close to the fishing trainer in IF. The best choice for the Horde by far... as it's somewhat out of the way, and you can nestle yourself in the back corner and hope no one wants you to die.

Honorable mention: Lava - You can fish in lava. For the Alliance, there really isn't much point in this. For the Horde, you may be able to find a nice spot where no one will see you... but with the guards at level 75, I wouldn't recommend it.

Orgrimmar:
The Valley of Spirits - The area where the Priest/Mage trainers are. A pretty nice spot for both sides... Horde side, no drawbacks really... Alliance side it's a rather nice spot as long as you stay out of sight... only problem will be Hunters tracking humanoid or someone portalling in seeing your in the chat log.

The Valley of Honor - Pretty close to the fishing trainer in Org. The best choice for the Alliance no doubt... you can tuck yourself away behind the rocks under the waterfall and fish life away. For the Horde its also a good spot... nice and wide open, with easy access to the trainer and a vendor (for lures and trash fish).

My personal experience: I just finished this on my Shaman and I must say, I got extremely lucky. It took me about 700 caught fish in IF to catch Old Ironjaw, and less than 70 in Org for Old Crafty. I managed to die 3 times in the process... one due to walking head first into the guards and a scout between the Drag and the Valley of Honor, and then twice by members of the Horde faction... once in VoS and again in VoH. Personally, I think I used up all my good luck getting these 2 achievements... all my rolls from now on will be 1's no doubt.

评论来自 234570

The Drop Rate SUCKS!
I think I fished around 450 fish in and still no drop. The other annoying thing is hunters tracking me and and shoting I guess "There is a naked gnome fishing here!"
and getting ganked.
The best place is just behind the tree next to the mage trainer.
I asked a GM about the rate and he said they have a very low drop rate. :(
Soo more fishing for me to do.
And please dont gank people who are naked and have a fishing rod in their hand :D

评论来自 65759

how do you people even get into org at all? do you all corpse run? I can't stealth beyond the 75 elites in front and rear entrance, so unless there's a backdoor somewhere i wonder how you do not get attacked by guardsm, or corpse run your way into valey of spirit/honor

Edit: instant dismount either entrance if i try to ride in, and stealth once im out of combat, then i live around 3 yards

评论来自 Hellxfire

Do you need to be 375 to fish him ?

评论来自 234570

Go to the Ashara Gate. Equip your ridding crop. Take of your Gear and /charge.
As soon as you pass the door strafe right to some rocks there and you will be fine after then ride to the valley of spirits and go all the way back to the tree and stone. Becareful annoying low level horde hunters like yelling out your location.

评论来自 oneru

Note for all fishing fans like me who are totally going for Salty Title:

Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty are NOT necessary for the Accomplished Angler !

So you can get Salty without spending days on these fish :-)! Happy fishing!

评论来自 83612

I got Old Crafty today at Ogrimmar's Valley of the Spirits, after 798 fish. I got to kill some alliance as well, so i'm close to complete the City Defender achievement as well.

评论来自 238881

finally! 296 fishes and than bam! there he was :)

Took me about 2 hours and I raised my skill from 150 to 214 at that time.

I recomend you to do this while lvling your fishing otherwiese you need alot of patience :P

Best spot for me was at the waterfall in VOH because I got ganked a few times at VOS.

Now I say:
- Old Ironjaw watch out! Here i come!

评论来自 mambaza

The bug using the Crocolisks quest appears to have been corrected. As a NE, I went to IF with the daily. I removed autoloot, and proceeded to fish, not picking up the crocolisk. After 25 casts, crocolisk dropped 24 times, but no old crafty.

评论来自 Dimish

How to make fishing less boring
There's no denying it, fishing gets boring after about the 100th time you throw your bobble into the waters to catch, for example, this fish. Here are some of the techniques i use to make it fun.

Step 1.
Download/buy some comedies (I for example watched seasons 1-5 of Scrubs while i fished my way through 1-320 fishing ), movies, any kind of motionpicture that you enjoy and could watch for +4 hours.

Step 2.
Download BS player/Media player classic (Those are atleast the ones i know that have this feature) and go to Options. There is an option called "Always on top". Switch that on. Then, turn on your Scrubs or whatever you want to watch, and place it so it doesn't get in the way of your bobble (Bobler or whatever that thing is that floats on the surface of the water).

Step 3
We're almost done. Now, go to your fishing spot (Ironforge or Orgimmar in case you're after these two lovely's), and bid your Fishing skill to some easy to press (F for example) button. Then turn on "Auto-loot" (Remember, you still have to press "Yes i want to loot this BoP fish" button when you do finally get this lovely piece of epicness) from WoW's options. Next order of business, go to Sound options, and switch it on so it makes sounds when a fish has been "caught" (They are either Sound effects or Ambient sounds, so turn both on.). Now finely toon it so you can listen to your show and you can hear it when the fish is caught. Now, fish away!

This has worked for like +2 years for me now, and i finally have a place to post my comments ^_^. Hope you enjoy'd my little tricks and tips, and i hope to see some lovely "Salty" tittled people running around!

Show ideas (I'm a comedy guy, so... this will reflect that)
- Scrubs (7 seasons of pure awesomeness)
- Friends
- Pablo Fransisco stand up comedy's (You can also watch these on Google-video, but then this trick of mine wouldn't work ;) )
- Third Rock From The Sun
- Two and a half men
- V for Vendetta (Not a show, a movie)
- Dark Knight ( Read above)

That should last atleast 3 characters worth of fishing. Have a good one!

EDIT// "Be prepared to be annoyed by other people fishing near you, as their bobbers will often be just as loud as yours."
This is a small problem with this technique, but the way to get around this is to get far from other people, and it isn't really hard. Not a whole lot of people (atleast on Darksorrow) are fishing for these lovelys.

评论来自 243063

took me about 600 casts to get it. I got my fishing from 0 to 235 with this.
I was always fishing when waiting in a BG queue or something.. now that I got Old Crafty I have nothing else to do in orgrimmar while waiting ;<

评论来自 vexis58

On a side note, you can get crocolisks in IF now too. I'd imagine you can get them in all the cities....although the Old Crafty trick doesnt seem to apply to Old Ironjaw.

Confirmed. I got Old Crafty in 12 casts, then immediately went to Ironforge. Skilled up from 123 to 156 so far without seeing Old Ironjaw, though every single cast has had a crocolisk in it.

评论来自 vexis58

go to Sound options, and switch it on so it makes sounds when a fish has been "caught" (They are either Sound effects or Ambient sounds, so turn both on.).

They are Sound Effects. Turn off Ambient Sounds, as that's only the sound the water makes against the shore of whatever pond you're fishing at.

Be prepared to be annoyed by other people fishing near you, as their bobbers will often be just as loud as yours.

评论来自 wowaddict123

I've caught 2 x Old Crafty in the Valley of Honor in 383 casts. 0.52% drop rate at this point for me. Good Luck.

评论来自 Steensborg

Anyone know if this trick works on fishing The 1 Ring up? heard it was fished in Stormwind so i wonder if this quest trick might work.

评论来自 261201

With patch 3.08 this bug no longer occurs because blizz changed the percentage for the fishingdaily questitems back to it's dropchance prior 3.02 where you sometimes had to fish 10min+

评论来自 Ralenia

Tried fishing him up in Valley of Honor with the Crokolisks in the city quest on my log. Cast about ~150 times, had the Baby crokolisk show up about 6-8 times, but not Old Crafty at all. I was in a group with a fellow fisherman, but might be farfetched if being in a group had anything to do with chances of fishing him up... There was also server restart coming in 15 minutes, so I decided to loot up Baby crokolisk and hs out before the restart :<. Going to delete Baby crok from my inventory and try casting more tomorrow.

In the end the chances are:
1. I was extremely unlucky (comparing other posters have catched him on their first or second cast)
2. This daily quest trick has been hotfixed in 3.0.8 patch

评论来自 314307

still working after 3.0.8b
got him after 10 casts with quest "crocolisks in the city"

评论来自 Fudge

As of 3.0.8, I took my alliance toon to phased version of Orgrimmar via the dragonblight quest sequence. I had crocolisks in the city.

It took me about 15 casts to catch the crocolisk, and another 50 to catch old Crafty.
Still struggling to get Old Ironjaw though.

评论来自 Tarka

Can you still get Crafty with the Fate quest? I've been at it 4 days not and still no luck.

评论来自 232953

Its true i caught at about 340 time, started with 273 fishing ended with 304, don't now if its clue or not but in the end i was fishing inside the waterfall. Oh and i am in patch 3.0.8.

评论来自 Donki

over 1000 casts and no crafty

I'm a horde Tauran

评论来自 324932

I need a confirmation if anyone has caught this fish post hotfixing the bug

评论来自 237309

I previously did Crocolisks in the City. I am in the "safe" Org instance. Fishing for 3 different days leveling up from 290 skill to 353 as of last night. I am burned out, but don't want to lose the safety of the instance. I have completed the Fate Up Against Your Will quest, but have not taken the SW portal back to finish the next one. Can I just leave to take care of business and come back? Is this a bug with the latest patch?

评论来自 33022

Well so far I have fished from 136 to 450, over 1600 casts in Org, with and w/o the croc daily quest and no sign of Old Crafty. I've tried w/ and w/o autoloot as well. I've no idea what to do except keep plugging away at it... I'm beginning to dread the thought of going to IF...

blood elf priest

评论来自 328231

OMG!
I catch him after 400ish casts but was so zoned out I recasted before looting:-( Seems I'm not the only one with trigger finger. But now.... I have cast 3289 times and no Crafty! WTF! does the counter reset? Do I give up or just fish until infinity? I am so frustrated with this atm that I am contemplating canceling my subscription to the game.

评论来自 294882

The story of my battle with this mighty fish

Twis 10 past 6 when i woke up that mourning outside of the great city of our horde. i rode into town on my trusty kodo, knowing work would start as usual, a trip to the market to check the prices of fish before heading to capture such beast my self.

As i stepped back upon my trusty stead i heard the noise from nearby fishers as i caught part of their conversation.
"...ripped my real in half....fish said to be cursed by the gods themselves...worth a fortune"
And from there i knew this day was like none other.

I sat onto a rock and put on my hat and and then put my lure on my line and began my day. As the day went on it seemed i had caught more fish then ever before but they were meaningless to me. I wanted this fish i had heard of, nay i needed this fish! And so it went on, and as the other fishers went home at 5 i stayed hoping to test my luck.

At half past 6 my food supplies were low. I took the last bite of my sandwich and dropped some of the meat onto my lap. As i went to pick it up i felt a tug on my line, but not just any tug, the tug of a master fish! IT WAS ON!

Grasping my line and throwing my half devoured sandwich flying into the face of a passing guard i began my fight. I pulled to my left to no affect so i pulled the other way to find myself drug off my rock and into the pond. There i saw it with horror as it went.SNAP! my reel was done. but i was not done yet. i leap forward with my left hand lunging at the fish but to results. i quickly withdrew my knife from my waist band that i had used to cut my line. I throw it up and caught it with my right hand and stabbed and slashed at the water. But the beast was too quick and i dropped it into the mud! i began to sprint after it but i tripped and fell into the mud. There i was, covered in mud and half into a pound and as my shame rood up my body as strangers laughed at me i saw it. A ripple in the water at first, but then bigger, faster,faster, it was coming back for me! I saw the jaws of Old crafty and i know i would have to think fast. and then my idea came and i knew it was time for redemption! i twist my head to 1 side and prepared and then...SMACK. i lunged forward with my horn stabbed at the fish. all was silent. silence. even the laughter of the crowd had gone for there was 50 no 100 gathers watching the epic struggle. and then i saw it. a cloud of red. and then a trickle down my horn! i had caught and slain old craft. His blood ran down and i roared with the battle cry that would become the saying of adventurers and heros for ages! FOR THE HORDE! i ran out of the pond and too the market but then i decided not to sell the fish. no the money wasn't worth it. i hung it in my living room right above the pelt of the feared Hogger. And so to this day in the city they tell of the epic battle of fisherman vs beast and how it is truly possible to defeat such fish in a wonderous place known as, The World, Of warcraft!
><> edit ><> i spelled mighty in the title might..lol

评论来自 294882

The story of my battle with this mighty fish

Twis 10 past 6 when i woke up that mourning outside of the great city of our horde. i rode into town on my trusty kodo, knowing work would start as usual, a trip to the market to check the prices of fish before heading to capture such beast my self.

As i stepped back upon my trusty stead i heard the noise from nearby fishers as i caught part of their conversation.
"...ripped my real in half....fish said to be cursed by the gods themselves...worth a fortune"
And from there i knew this day was like none other.

I sat onto a rock and put on my hat and and then put my lure on my line and began my day. As the day went on it seemed i had caught more fish then ever before but they were meaningless to me. I wanted this fish i had heard of, nay i needed this fish! And so it went on, and as the other fishers went home at 5 i stayed hoping to test my luck.

At half past 6 my food supplies were low. I took the last bite of my sandwich and dropped some of the meat onto my lap. As i went to pick it up i felt a tug on my line, but not just any tug, the tug of a master fish! IT WAS ON!

Grasping my line and throwing my half devoured sandwich flying into the face of a passing guard i began my fight. I pulled to my left to no affect so i pulled the other way to find myself drug off my rock and into the pond. There i saw it with horror as it went.SNAP! my reel was done. but i was not done yet. i leap forward with my left hand lunging at the fish but to results. i quickly withdrew my knife from my waist band that i had used to cut my line. I throw it up and caught it with my right hand and stabbed and slashed at the water. But the beast was too quick and i dropped it into the mud! i began to sprint after it but i tripped and fell into the mud. There i was, covered in mud and half into a pound and as my shame rood up my body as strangers laughed at me i saw it. A ripple in the water at first, but then bigger, faster,faster, it was coming back for me! I saw the jaws of Old crafty and i know i would have to think fast. and then my idea came and i knew it was time for redemption! i twist my head to 1 side and prepared and then...SMACK. i lunged forward with my horn stabbed at the fish. all was silent. silence. even the laughter of the crowd had gone for there was 50 no 100 gathers watching the epic struggle. and then i saw it. a cloud of red. and then a trickle down my horn! i had caught and slain old craft. His blood ran down and i roared with the battle cry that would become the saying of adventurers and heros for ages! FOR THE HORDE! i ran out of the pond and too the market but then i decided not to sell the fish. no the money wasn't worth it. i hung it in my living room right above the pelt of the feared Hogger. And so to this day in the city they tell of the epic battle of fisherman vs beast and how it is truly possible to defeat such fish in a wonderous place known as, The World, Of warcraft!
><> edit ><> i spelled mighty in the title might..lol

评论来自 328777

If you spend too much time fishing ^ that's what becomes of you..

评论来自 Zahorijs

If you want this achievement, just don't give up. 4865 casts together in The Valley of Spirits and The Valley of Honor and finally I got it!

评论来自 Sindaran

First read about crafty while researching the quest from wrathgate.

My druid was leveling fishing while phased in Ogrimmar,got crafty on around her 80th cast.

Then I read about the croc trick,tried on my warlock today.Turned down the baby croc twice,then read trick no longer worked.

So, I took baby croc next time it showed.Decided I would fish for an hour before giving up.

At around my 100th cast,hour was up.Was about to hearth,decided I'd give it one more cast,and got Crafty.

Now for my hunter :)

评论来自 vexis58

Caught Old Crafty on my NE druid with the Crocolisks in the City daily in about 35 minutes, leveled from 344 to 354 while doing so.

评论来自 345061

So, I put on my title Ambassador, put on my non-threatening RP gear. I go to fish at Orgrimmar and seem to do it pretty well, until some bloodthirsty orc warrior had to come there, "kek" insatiably and kill me, causing seemingly everyone from Orgrimmar to come up to my corpse and /spit etc. So much for diplomacy!

评论来自 MadMontie

There should be a better achievement than just catching old crafty. One of my toons (named Milwaukee) caught old crafty on his first catch. Milwaukee now has a fishing skill of 2. that should be a feat of strength.

评论来自 364288

I was in Org trying to skill up to 300 and hit my 1000 fish achievement (which I did), figuring I'd catch Old Crafty in the meanwhile. I was 200 casts in when some L80 comes and starts fishing next to me. A few minutes later, *ding* he gets his 50 fish achievement, so I'm thinking hey, he's starting from ground zero. A couple minutes later, *ding* he gets his Old Crafty achievement.

This story tells me many things:
1. There is no minimum skill required to fish up Old Crafty
2. It's better to be lucky than good
3. If you watch somebody fish up old Crafty you might as well give up on it for the rest of the day.

评论来自 Woth

Got it after 576 catches, fished all in Valley of Honor. I started with 230 skill and finished with 300, so I think it's even better if you just start fishing there with 1 skill, and level up the profession. Gotta fish Old Ironjaw now :P.

评论来自 piparkaq

1400 casts and counting, still no Old Crafty. :-(

Two 17 point off-hand fishes tho.

评论来自 Shiverlynn

Fishing BoP items no longer brings up the confirmation window, you automatically loot it and it binds. You don't need to watch out for the confirmation window anymore and can spam fishing with autoloot on.

评论来自 392150

This achievement wasn't so boring than I thought, because there were 2-3 hordes killing us and we did kill them too about 15 minutes with my friend.

Here is the list for % and each:

time elapsed: 1.48.30 hours
place: The Valley of Spirits
total fished: 298

Longjaw Mud Snapper: 176 =59.1%
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 68 =22.8%
Brilliant Smallfish: 49 =16.4%
17 Pound Catfish: 2 =0.7%
Old Crafty: 1 =0.3%
22 Pound Catfish: 1 =0.3%
Lesser Healing Potion: 1 =0.3%

评论来自 420671

The OL daily crocolisk bug doesnt work anymore....
GAH!
anyone know another bug for this or ironjaw?

评论来自 obievil

I just got this on my Alliance DK, 425 casts. They have indeed fixed the Crock quest thing, because previous to 3.1 when I did old Iron Jaw, it took me less than 25 casts with that Quest.

评论来自 Berrenger

Finally managed to catch Old Crafty today! Took me just under 6 hours of fishing spread over 4 days. I was fishing in Valley of Honour, using the old /lie trick to hide behind the rocks. In total I fished up:

Bristle Whisker Catfish: 204 = 20%
Longjaw Mud Snapper: 609 = 59.7%
Brilliant Small Fish: 197 = 19.3%
Lesser Mana Potion: 2 = 0.2%
Lesser Healing Potion: 1 = 0.1%
17 pound Catfish: 3 = 0.3%
19 pound Catfish: 3 = 0.3%

So Old Crafty came up on my 1020th cast!

Unfortunately I was so excited/surprised to see him I forgot to take a screen shot with the achievement showing :-(

评论来自 Fred

Just got Old Crafty on my 17th cast, I may just be lucky, was fishing in The Valley of Spirits, I'm also Alliance, you can go to the back corner and stand behind a stone and Horde won't even notice you.

评论来自 421062

For me it took about 2000 casts for crafty. That took ages and considering horde were gankin me every second it was annoying. Then my friend said why dont i get ironjaw so i did. 5 casts. asked another mate who had both and they said it was about 100 for ironjaw and 1900 for crafty. Im guessing either were really lucky when in ironforge or bliz wants to make ally wait loads and get ganked just for a fish

评论来自 452091

If you are alliance - here is how i did it, and it just took a bit of persistence:

1 - go to Valley of Heroes in Orgrimmar, hide behind the rocks under the waterfall there, so no horde will see you

2 - position yourself so you have a nice view of the bobber, since it's a tight place for fishing

3 - Just be persistant, it WILL drop

I caught good ol' Crafty after 2h 30m, and around 500 fishing swings. Saturday morning, so Orgrimmar seemed empty also, had no troubles with NPCs nor hordies.

Happy hunting :)

Maraniel - Darkspear EU

评论来自 Stoneboar

My only question is since the Diplomat title revolves around Orgrimmar and Stormwind.......they should have renamed "IronJaw" to something a bit different so that it could be in Stormwind.

Since the Horde fish is in the Horde capital so should the Ally fish...leastways makes sense to me

评论来自 anaamika

Just a note that you can no longer fish in front of the Mystic Ward in IF, nor in the lava any more.

As Alliance, I had more luck at the Valley of Honor than the Valley of Spirits simply because there were less people around no matter what time of day. Got jumped several times near the portal, during which time I only managed to catch the following:
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 254
Bloated Mud Snapper - 1 (contained Shadowgem)
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 70
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 78
19 Pound Catfish - 2

After that I gave up and headed over to the waterfall in Valley of Honor where I found the perfect fishing spot behind the rocks, but just in front of the waterfall itself. Visibility is really poor unless you tilt your camera angle so you're looking from directly overhead. This way you have quite a view of the pool in front of the falls so you can see incoming Horde (if any) and you also have a great view of your bobber even if it's cast into the rocks as so frequently happens. Just mouse over the rocks and you sometimes find the bobber clickable. If not, simply recast and keep going. In this spot I didn't get jumped even once, and I caught:
Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper - 144
Raw Brilliant Smallfish - 40
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish - 40
17 Pound Catfish - 1
Lesser Mana Potion - 1
Lesser Healing Potion - 1
Old Crafty - 1

Going by the number of nightcrawlers I used in my entire time there, I estimate it took less than 150 minutes to fish him up. By the way, did this as a level 63 balance druid, so getting jumped usually meant getting one-shotted, and also, running over to Valley of Honor meant endless corpse runs because of all the higher level guards between The Drag and there, but it was worth it in the end to be left alone by players once I got there. Only reason I persisted was because I'd just fished up Old Ironjaw right before and wanted the matching pair :) Between these 2 guys, the coins from the Dalaran fountain and the sewer rat, I'd be happy if I never fished again in my life... or until the next Stranglethorn event <sigh>

Good luck to everyone else trying for this!

评论来自 242173

If you're Alliance then the Valley of Spirits is the easiest to get to by a wide margin. Go through the back entrance located at the very top right corner of The Barrens, not Durotar. Once over the small bridge go around the bend to the right, very short distance. There's 3 large rocks, one very tall in the middle though nearer the back wall. Good place to fish from and to hide behind when you want to log out and back in. I spirit walked all around Ogrimmar and its a heckuva place to find your way in if your not use to it.

On a sidenote, I've fished with Horde in Ironforge, and though I don't have Old Crafty yet I was there a while today. For a lot of players there seems to be an unwritten rule that you don't attack a player while they're fishing which I think is kinda cool.

But yes, you can always be ganked at anytime.

Edit: actually even better is to go to the back wall and get in the nook between the rock and tree.

Edit II: Took me a full week, a couple of long sits and many small ones of 15 minutes to a half hour. Had to be over 2,000 casts, caught many 17 and 19 pounders, couple pair of pants and a mace.

Some extra advice: keep your view from above, not in body. Some horde in demon-lion form jumped right in my face and I swear my heart stopped for a second.

评论来自 hoofnbutt

ty for your help! what is the crosolix trick?

评论来自 469022

I decided to go for the achievement with my 80 lvl alliance paladin. I read useful information from the above comments and i went for it. I decided to go on Orgrimmar as earlier in the morning as possible. I went there 6 o'clock server time (7 local time) on a Sunday morning. I didn't expect to find people so early in the morning but i did find two 80's. After a short fight i died and then returned back. It took me 5 minutes to recover my body so both players had left. I went behind the waterfall and i /sleep to hide as best as possible. After almost two hours and some 300 catches, i caught Old Crafty.

评论来自 242225

Got him after 22 catches on my level 26 night elf druid XD

评论来自 kcz421

Took me a total of um.. 110 casts I think? I had downloaded fishing buddy but forgot to actually put the add-on. (Smoking weed is bad, mmmmkay?) So I might've missed maybe 5 or 10 fish. Time was probably about 20 minutes, again not sure because BGs popped.

You'll find more horde activity in Valley of Spirits because the portals land there (if mage ports you or if you take a city portal from Shatt/Dal), so if you're Alliance, just watch for that. I saw a couple Alliance fishing in this tight space between the hut and the wall. I leave 'em alone; I know the pain of visiting other cities for achievements and the long run back is teh suck. The other spot in Valley of Honor might be okay, I stood next to the fishing trainer so I could sell loots and not have bag space issues. Alliance, not sure where you'd stand in that area. By the waterfall? Not much horde activity there, at least late at night, unless you run into the random person running to talk to npcs there.

Much easier time-wise for the amount of time it took fishing him up.

Next up are the giant rat and the sea turtle mount... and Mr. Pinchy. And the pets from Mr. Barlo.

And auto loot is the best. Lazy clicking ftw.

Oh, I didn't have the crocolisk in the city quest from Barlo, I had completed previously and turned in the quest and got Snarly as a present.

Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw, got them both the first time I actually went with the intent to do it. Total time spent, about 2.5 hours. Total casts? Oh lord only knows. 400? It's really just luck. Sometimes mine is REALLY awesome. Or REALLY bad.

评论来自 blahism

As of 10/22/2009 I am no longer able to catch anything with any of my toons while on the "Diplomat" quests while fishing in Orgrimmar. I get skill level increases however nothing is being caught. I have filed a bug and it was confirmed hotfixed on one server but a client bug on another. I'll go with the hotfixed since it doesn't work on any of the 3 realms I play on.

评论来自 239711

Apparently I'm crazy lucky.. I only visited this page to see if this was actually a hard achievement to get after I snagged Old Crafty after my first fishing cast ever on my character >.>

has earned the achievement !
You receive loot: Old Crafty.
You skill in Fishing has increased to 2.

评论来自 480959

Much more than 2000 cast and still nothing.
I'am very unlucky Gnome -.-
I afraid i havent more patient for this achi.

Edited: Success i needed about 2500 casts ^_^

评论来自 psipress

190 -- Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
82 -- Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
53 -- Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 -- Lesser Healing Potions
1 -- Lesser Mana Potion
1 -- 19 Pound Catifsh
1 -- Old Crafty

I just hung out all afternoon and fished while I watched a movie. It really didnt take that long if you consider only 330 casts. It is VERY boring though.

评论来自 357498

ubeliaveble got this on 24th cast http://img402.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot110709002841.jpg/

评论来自 speckz

350+ casts so far, no Crafty yet.

评论来自 488511

i got old crafty in 134 cast no idea what i got wasn't paying attention.
i was 320 fishing no lure 10+ pole i was fishing in the rocks next to the water fall in the valley of honnor.
i caught old crafty before i got 1000 fish ach :)

评论来自 490469

It took me 67 attempts to fish this up, perhaps a sign that the odds have improved (28-11-2009).

Either that or I was very, very lucky!

评论来自 102859

If you know some sweet spots to fish for this, post it, we'll be glad to know. If you want to report your current status regarding the achievement, go Thottbot, instead of trashing good ol' Wowhead with pointless info. Thank you.

评论来自 Unimpresed

Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper x 184 = 62%
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish x 63 = 21%
Raw Brilliant Smallfish x 46 = 15%
17 Pound Catfish x 3 = 1%
Lesser Mana potion x 1 = 0.3%
Old Crafty x 1 = 0.3%

Total Casts = 298 (not counting ones where I was too slow to click the bobber when tabbed out of the WoW window)
Total Time Spent Fishing = A couple hours plus in between heroic summons, plus a break for a WG

Using a Mastercraft Kalu'ak fishing Pole with no lures

Good luck to all you fishermen :)

评论来自 482127

After:

I get:

Old Crafty

评论来自 514382

you wouldn't beleive my luck with this achivement, my fishing skill was a good 200 when i went there with a friend that was crazy about getting this one, he had 450 and a great fishing pole mine was crap at the time.

so, we went in (we're alliance) he went in first to get aggro (like a gentleman) and i had my soulstone on me so i got killed near the lake by the cascade i revived and hid myself there, he also got killed and went in after me, we where hidden in the cascade a great spot for this achivement.

so at the time i really wasn't into the achivements thing (now i have 6050 points) and i was telling this friend i had to go somewhere else, so after like 10 min. i thougth to myself ok this is my last cast and after this i'm leaving so i threw the line and got the slash and surprise surprise i got the fish.

well you can imagine my friend was really mad, cause after i left he spended like four hours triyng to get the fish and he didn't.

well for me it was pretty easy, i fell sorry for the horde they don't have a spot in ironforge to get hidden like we do.

good luck fishers

评论来自 146296

Well, that was lucky. I was at 266 when I started and caught him right after I hit 274, after catching 37 mudsnappers, 15 smallfish, and 17 catfish. So not too bad at all.

评论来自 JGPenfield

I did not catch him but I did find that fishing behind the waterfall is safe for the Alliance. While I was there Horde kept jumping of a cliff into the water in front of me for some reason, but I was never spotted. The bobber could not be seen because of the waterfall. But if I scanned the area in front of me the little cog showed up and I would listen for the water sound to know when to reel it in. This became difficult when a second alliance player showed up because both bobbers made the same noise, but I was able to mange it with the timing of our casts. The other Alliance fisherman was further up so he could see his bobber and was more visible but still was not attacked by the Horde. If I were the Horde I would regularly scout this area for hidden Alliance. After reading the posts about Old Iron Jaw I am going to scout the pool in Ironforge.
The Alliance live to kill the Horde and vice versa. Otherwise, what is the use of playing this game?

评论来自 554254

Just finished old Crafty and it took a wile. 1542 throws and about 8 hours of fishing.

评论来自 570730

I picked Valley of Spirits seeing as it was less occupied with 80's. More just little level 15's and such. Stripped down to my skivvies and used potion of lesser invisibility to skip past the guards and avoid trouble that way. Tucked myself into a corner on the western side and sat down to make myself less noticable (also removed my title). Spent a good few hours fishing and getting nothing before I had to log off. Logged back on the next day, still in the same spot and really not wanting to waste my day with more hours of fishing.
Still, I decided to cast my line just one more time before hearthing and wouldn't you know it, I caught the little sucker

And was never noticed once by the horde

评论来自 DMFDxGamer

My loot window is empty everytime.

Am i missing something?

-Alliance NE Hunter

评论来自 Sagmon

Caught Old Crafty just this morning, as an Alliance player - the "quest" for this Achievement comes with excitement not encountered in most WoW activities!

I'm a Warrior. L77. I came to Orgrimmar specc'd, geared, and buffed for DPS, in Berserker stance, late last night (about 11:30 PST). I figured fighting would draw attention of any nearby players, so the quicker it was over, the better. This toon is a Night Elf, so it has Shadowmeld, and is a capped Herbalist, so it also has Lifeblood. I figured that in a crowd I could stay alive long enough to take down one or two guards and fade out to leave combat if a hopeless fight remained.

I brought a full stack of Elixir of Camouflage (L50; "...cannot be tracked" 1 hour), noting that others had mentioned they'd been detected by hunters and other trackers. Gotta say - what I wish I'd also brought is a hefty stack of Blackened Worg Steak (22500 HP / 30s "...track Humanoids" 1 hour)! It's not enough that they cannot see you on their mini-map - you really need to know when they're close by. Also, of course, the getting in is easier if you can track both guards and players.

The west gate is the better way in. There is lots of activity in The Valley of Strength, where the Bank and AH are; you don't want to have to go through it. Guards (L75) on the bridge must be fought in pairs (at best), but I was able to get across without much problem. I got through the gateway with a final clash with a single guard on the inside. I moved off the path to the right, then continued down the "S" to the southeast, mounted. Probably not a good idea, although the path seemed deserted. A player spotted me and took a ranged shot before I saw her and could 'meld...

To avoid players, I chose the route around to the North, through The Valley of Wisdom. Some players were still around, especially near the Hall of Legends. I hid in rocks to the right of the path, 'melded, until roving NPCs were clear and the loitering players seemed to be gone. By running along the right edge of the path I was able to avoid aggroing the two stationary NPCs. Pretty scary, though - players seemed to blast down the path at odd times - but I got away with it. There were some more close Guard clashes as I got onto The Drag and into the "right-left" hallway leading into The Valley of Honor. I 'melded into the corner in the left-turn portion as an elite L80 Scout approached from that Valley, but he seemed to see me from about ten yards away...

Luckily I'd died close enough to the exit so that I could rez in the Valley of Wisdom, just to the right of the entrance, barely out of aggro distance of the nearest guard. I 'melded immediately, of course, but there seemed to be no guards or players there at that time (sure wish I'd brought the Blackened Worg Steak, though!). I moved further east to be clear of the gate, then ran north into the water toward the falls. I found a position east of the falls right against the rocks where I was pretty sure I was out of sight. I equipped my pole and began casting.

The first thing I learned about fishing under those conditions was that seeing the bobber is often not possible, because of rocks, weeds, and falling water. Still, I could often guess where it was from the line and get the cog icon.

After 220 successful casts, a 'lock at L80 found and ganked me. With the food buff, I might have been able to 'meld when I saw he was close, but as it is I can only guess at how I was detected. The Untrackable buff was still up, but there is a little path above where I was, and he might have passed close enough to see my bars... or he might've noticed my casting... In any case, I figured I'd get some sleep and avoid any revisits. I logged out with my ghost at my corpse.

This AM I got on again (6:45A PST), checked out the area (daylight, but empty), rezzed, and resumed. 160 casts later, I finally had Old Crafty, and was hearthing before the Achievement banner had started to fade!

My results, across the two sessions:
223 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
90 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
62 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
2 17-pound Catfish
1 19-pound Catfish
1 Buccaneer's Gloves of the Owl (green)

... and one Old Crafty! :-)

评论来自 70984

Just caught Old Crafty in under 10 minutes.

评论来自 Heeris

1300 catches and still counting...

评论来自 620405

I guess my luck was pretty incredible. I snuck into Orgrimmar, stole the flame for the Midsummer Achievement, died a couple of times on my way to the Valley of Honor, then cast three times before catching Old Crafty and getting the Diplomat achievement. It probably helped that I did it at seven in the morning, before Horde woke up. : )

评论来自 MulchDiggums

After casting 1070 times in Valley of Spirits, I failed to loot 老滑头 because I forgot it's a green BoP item that requires confirmation of looting before taking it out of the loot window, and accidently recast, closing and losing the item. Just gotta cast 1070 more times and hope I don't do it again :D
(edit) Caught my 2nd one after 1723 total casts and made sure to loot it.

评论来自 Avandare

WotLK pre-patch. Caught 23/09/2022 at 3:19pm server time on Remulos.

Took 1928 casts:

1,157 x 新鲜的长嘴泥鳅
433 x 刺须鲶鱼
326 x 新鲜的美味小鱼
5 x 次级治疗药水
4 x 次级法力药水
1 x 餐刀
1 x 19磅重的鲶鱼
1 x 老滑头

评论来自 leviathen7

Just caught it within first 30 casts. As a rogue I had no problem invading orgrimmar either.

评论来自 Zenflux

Wrath Classic v. 3.4

1 hour 15 minutes of fishing in The Valley of Spirits
371 casts

225 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
78 - Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
65 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
1 - Lesser Healing Potion
1 - 17 Pound Catfish
1 - Old Crafty

评论来自 Axsel

Super annoying but hey it's done - 6,434 casts. Old Ironjaw only took 784. Today, on a gut feeling, I took Old Ironjaw out of my inventory and left him in the bank, and then caught Old Crafty in 254 casts so I dunno maybe there's something there...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JT9jbsycDHUWKKek6

评论来自 MadShakaal

Got this yesterday!
Here are my catches:

Longjaw Mud Snapper: 467
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 167
Brilliant Smallfish: 136
19 Pound Catfish: 4
17 Pound Catfish: 2
Lesser Mana Potion: 2
Bloated Mud Snapper: 1 (rewarded Tigerseye)
Old Crafty: 1

This adds to 780 casts! :)
I can't really say how long it took, I fished in between breaks at work, sometimes half an hour here and there then afked a lot.
It could be assumed that one cast takes approx. 10 seconds with the looting and casting. This means 7800 seconds = 130 minutes = 2 hours 10 minutes

评论来自 wutzhoppenstedt

Here my stats:

Old Crafty @Orgrimmar (being Alliance)

1. Session (VoS)
--------------------------------------
327 x
107 x
96 x
2 x
2 x
1 x

2. Session (VoH)
--------------------------------------
378 x
137 x
112 x
2 x
1 x
2 x
3 x
1 x
======================================
1171 casts
======================================

评论来自 Zkout

Got the fish today after fishing in 奥格瑞玛 at the valley of spirits. Slept in the water by the western wall of the pond, just behind the beam/pillar. That's once you pass by 阿诺克
(About X=33, Y=87)

Fished with 450+20 fishing skill, for 2hours 27minutes and 46seconds straight while watching a movie, and some YouTube videos. Just clicking the bobber when it splashed, and throwing it out again.

Keep in mind there is a message saying it will bind on pickup, so do not throw out your fishing line before you click the button for the item. Otherwise you are in for another long time of fishing.

评论来自 legoman60

In classic the drop item gives a soulbind pop-up like when looting any other BOP. Careful when chain-casting.

评论来自 mynewbattlenet

You either get lucky or you become determined to get it no matter what.....
Perseverance will always get it for you as long as you are determined... if you're not, well whats the point if you cant stick with it.
But, Luck has a lot to do with it as well, as can be seen in the screenshot .
that is correct, 23 casts into this Characters fishing career, and Old Crafty is in the bag!
Now... On to Ironforge!

Stopped off in Stormwind to get Fishing Diplomat Achievement...

Ok, made it to Ironforge, started fishing, and on cast number 66 (skill in Fishing 67)
I caught Old Ironjaw!
Both on the same day, in just 66 casts!
I am going to Vegas Baby!

Screenshot of Both Catches

(edited for content)

链接

老滑头

钓起奥格瑞玛的老滑头。

指南

Fishing Achievements Guide - Wrath of the Lich King Classic Fishing Profession Overview

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