评论来自 3669

Highly desired blade for level 19 Twinks.

评论来自 5650

Great sword for a twink rogue.

评论来自 1515

Edwin VanCleef drops these at a resonable rate; it shouldn't take too long for you to get one of these beauties. For those who don't know, VanCleef is in the Deadmines, which is an Alliance instance (sorry Horde, maybe next time).

评论来自 6984

The sword is also great for warriors and other melee classes. It's not hard to get, and you don't have to be twinked to get this. You will also receive a choice of 3 blues afterwards from killing Vancleef as a quest.
Deadmines is at Moonbrook, a small village in southern Westfall. You will need about 5 lvl 18+ to run the instance.

评论来自 7293

This one and Wingblade from the Wailing Cavern quest reward (and that IS Horde only) are very nice for a twink. Or then just Dual wield these if you want.

评论来自 7700

One of the best lvl 10-19 bracket twink sword. Duel-wielding for a rogue is amazing.

评论来自 skitzosmeagol

This is the most commonly seen twink weapon in the 19 bracket :) Its mods are amazing and its DPS amazing. With dual wielding these with some enchants tossed on it is a deadly combo. It drops of Van Cleef, who is on a giant ship surrounded by alot of people and also escorted by a few body guards.

评论来自 7735

Amazing sword for the level. As was mentioned, it is terrific for warrior and rogue twinks, especially considering that unlike the wingblade, it can be aquired by horde and alliance alike, albeit it can be difficult to get to deadmines on a horde character.

评论来自 8067

Put a pair of fiery enchants and dual wield these for a warrior...leveling and/or twinking becomes a lot easier. It doesn't get much better at level 19 :)

评论来自 jab416171

just did VC twice, dropped both times. This guy is paying me 50g for each time, 100g in a half hour

评论来自 37947

I got it at lvl 21 and i used it till lvl 26 great sword took me about 10 runs for it to drop but i was happy when i got it

评论来自 43601

Whats with all the confusion about what factions can get into which instances. Instances don't care whether you are horde or alliance, its just where they are situated. On my horde char i've ran my friend through Stockades before O.o'

评论来自 55847

This weapon is the absolute worst boss instance drop i have ever tried to get. I went 12 times with only getting it 1 time.

评论来自 kelgate

Great weapon for twinks especially rogues and amazing with feiry enchant.

评论来自 64020

i have this item on my lvl 19 twink i duel wield firey it i got it twice in 2 runs in a row and i ran again after to get a blackened defias armor

评论来自 66292

If you are a horde trying to get yourself a cruel barb I suggest taking the long way to VC. I suggest taking the beach, instead maybe fight some murlocs and then reach Moonbrook and enter. It is what I did with my friends, but I wwasn't the one who wanted the Cruel Barb. =P

评论来自 69613

you can get stinging viper for WC of last boss witch is nearly the same. it dose same dmg and same dps but dosent increase 12 attk power so if ur horde u havent missed out on cruel barb stingning vipers just as good

评论来自 75120

twwinks i would get this ass an off hand and ptu assasins's balde as main hand for ambush, : ] 1 hit squishy people maybe with the right enchants?

评论来自 ArumLito

i have run my lvl 1 gnome alone from kharanos to booty bay without dying so im sure people can go the other way to westfall without dying epicallysince they should be higher than 10 (at least to enter the instance) and i was lvl one the key is to stay on the verge of the fatigue and not fatigue just dont stay in the fatigued part too long from there on out do what the others said to.

评论来自 23150

How long are these good for with fiery? (Dual wield)

评论来自 23150

Sorry for the double post but, would it be a good idea to have fiery on MH and icy on OH.

Thanks in advance

评论来自 84692

great to use all the way to 28 or so until u can get at least 1(Protectors Sword) im a NE
and when i ran threw the first time it was harder the n the rest first run
43 Gnome rogue

24NE hunter

21 NE hunter(me) so it was harder but we still made it i got drop (cape of the brotherhood) second run it was harder

29 Dwarf hunter

21 NE druid

25 NE hunter

22 NE hunter(Me) but the to last ones my bro ran me threw um so it was easiest

70 Dwarf hunter(my bro)

50Gnome warrior(my bros friend)

and me 23 NE hunter got cruel barb drops from my bros runs Realm Shattered halls name Ourochimarou guild
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评论来自 91092

Ya this wep isnt to shabby for any duel weilders also good for off hand scince not many good low lvl blue twink items are off hand

评论来自 Riccaforte

16% drop rate my ass! I have gone through 39 times, doing the 40th now, and has never dropped.

EDIT: 42nd time, still hasn't dropped once.

评论来自 76764

Great sword, still level 30 and using it.

Dual wielded Rogue, Fiery enchant on this, and Lifestealing on my other.

评论来自 leuitinet

Ok first thing..... Yes it's a nice sword, and more than likely the best one-handed sword at this lvl. Evry1 suggests this for melee twinks, but not evry1 one gets this. I've ran VC (a.k.a The deadmines) and got the Over-shirt ( boss choice for casters) and the Defias Chest ( Good second choice compared to the tunic of westfall). The butcher slicer, thiefs blade, and a few others make good gear as well. And some-what easier to get a hold of. If you're planning on making a twink Try to have some back-ups. Just in case this eludes your grips

评论来自 64303

You can only get this by picking Van Cleef?!
Good lord.

评论来自 100049

gr1pp you are a LIAR. Shadowfang is superior in all aspects but two! 1)Cruel Barb is easier to get
2) Cruel barb looks ALOT cooler than Shadowfang

(Btw...you spelt "superior" wrong...WTB spell check?)...i sense a downgrade on my comment >.>

评论来自 99434

15 agil isn't as good as lifestealing on MH

评论来自 110409

amazing sword if u r up for a lot of runs through dm. it took me 32 runs to get it. but when u get it, it owns like crazy. so only get it if u r willing to run through dm a lot. :)

评论来自 110409

go for butcher's slicer instead. it looks cooler and it has a higher drop rate. i definatly recomend the butcher's slicer over this if u r looking for a sword immidiatly. but if u r willing to run through dead mines countless times then the cruel barb would be a good option

评论来自 115505

First of all CB hits higher then shadow fang, and it adds + 12 atk pwer, thats not bad for a lvl 19. Sure, SF migh have a chance on hit to send a shadow bolt at the enemy, but its rare.
I totally agree with you, Scarlet. SF sucks.

评论来自 keqe

I think its a good main hand weapon, because its slow and good for rogues in main hand.

评论来自 34516

While shadowfang has a higher dps out put its not as obtainable as a cruel barb... so you best bet is to just pick this up.

评论来自 125997

what enchant should i get on this?

评论来自 Anarchy

Feels like this thing has a 5% chance to drop, done the instance with my friend about 50 times and it's dropped 3 times, 2 for her twink and one for mine.

评论来自 134646

yea but shadowfang will sell for 300g on AH and isnt bind on pickup

评论来自 126090

This is great from twink 19lvl Rougue!!

评论来自 101076

im gonna get wingblade+theif's blade on my rogue twink just because i belive 7 agility better than 12 AP. plus it will be OH so the lower speed will help. i know its less DPS but it gives me 1.68 crit at 19 and 7 AP so i believe theif's to be better for off hand. i will put crusader on my wingblade(100 strength=100APwhich=+8.32 DPS and heals me for a good amount) and 15 agility on my theif's. hope this helps anyone debating between this and some other sword for a 19 rogue twink although this might get downrated for being unrelated to topic.*shrugs*

评论来自 JustMax

So I'm sitting here thinking about weapons to twink my Rogue out with and I came out with this composition.

Assassin's Blade = 1.90 Speed, 4 agility, 3 strength 15.5 dps
Shadowfang = 2.70 Speed, 17.8 dps, COH: 30 shadow damage
Cruel Barb = 2.80 Speed, 15.5 dps, 12 AP
Wingblade = 2.20 Speed, 5 agility, 2 stamina, 15.7 dps
Scout's Blade/Sentinel's Blade (Warsong Gulch pvp daggers) = 1.70 Speed, 4 agility, 2 stamina, 15.3 dps

After putting together this information here is what I came up with.

Assasin's Blade/Wingblade is by far the best combo due to the stats and the median of the dps. If you were to throw 15 agility on both of these (Which 90% of real twink rogues do) that would give you about 39 Attack power, plus a decent amount of dodge. On a side note, this combo would provide the most dps (With enchants of course) meaning with 200+ attack power that a good amount of twink rogues have with this combo the odds of you one shotting a cloth wearer with a crit ambush is more often then not by far.

But for those that aren't intrested in paying out the ass for there rogue then Cruel barb/pvp Dagger is also a phenomenal choice. You also get +crit, +dodge, and +ap with this set, and you dont have to clear out your life savings just to stab someone this is obviously the best choice. It will take you a maximum of a 6 hours to farm the honor, and if you have a high level running you through dead mines you will most likely knock out both in the same day.

In all honesty, I would sugest to everyone reading this to rule out shadowfang. The dps is higher then any one handed weapon you will get in the 10-19 bracket. And yes you can always get the enchant on it blah blah but its less effort then its worth. The chance on hit is something that I personally think blizzard just rolled a dice and flipped a coin and thats what it came out with. The main reasons for not wanting Shadowfang is: 1. the speed is to slow for my taste. 2. the chance on hit makes me gag. 3. It's a sword. A rogue will lose out on the backstab/ambush abilitys if they group this with another sword.

My personal oppinion on this matter is, if you have the money, go for victory. I personally have 2 level 70's, stocked with a decent amount of gold on both. Considering I love daggers with all of my soul I'm going to spend my time camping the auction house for the Assassin's blade and farming honor for the Scouts Blade.

This is just my outlook on this never ending subject, and I hope it has helped someone.

评论来自 JustMax

评论来自 34516

Not everyone can get Shadowfang.... so this is a good alternative until then.

评论来自 145983

Would this still be the best OH for a rogue with a dagger MH?

评论来自 153243

It seems that there's only a twink discussion in here, but I'm not going to discuss in that. The point is, that Cruel Barb is a very nice sword, either for a twink, or for a normal player. If you have a friend who has a high level character, and you're on that server, see if he can boost you through The Deadmines for a few times, especially if you're a rogue or warrior.

You'll probably get buzzer's Blade, which is quite a nice dagger at lvl 16 (guys, I'm not talking about twinking, I'm talking about PvE), Mr Smite's Reaver or Thief's Blade and Edwin VanCleef (A friend of me boosted me twice yesterday) first dropped off Blackened Defias Armor, which is really useful in PvE, even for a warrior, because of the stats that are on it. He also drops the Cruel Barb. As a fury warrior, but also as a prots warrior (because of the extra AP), it's a very good 1h sword, especially when a fury warrior dual wields it.

The lvl 70 friend who boosted me, recommended me, to use this one in MH and Thief's Blade in OH at lvl 20. =)

Cheers.

Edit: Oh, btw, why would you spend like a million of gold, on Shadowfang and/or Assasin's Blade, to twink your rogue? First of all, you're ruining the battlegrounds with that, because normal low levels can't even try improving their skills, because they're instantly one-shotted, second of all it's a waste of money, because of the above.

评论来自 156354

With the low droprates on some of the nicer twink pieces (Cruel barb, Blackened Defias Armor, leggings of the fang, etc.) some twinks might find themselves in danger of outlevelling their bracket before they get completely geared.

An easy workaround is to have your runner-through clean out the instance up to VanCleef, then bring the twink char in to kill the boss. the character looting Vancleef MUST be present when he is killed!

This will save you a lot of unnecessary XP from the trash mobs in Deadmines.

评论来自 136306

omg this sword was main hand befor the patch, now u can use it with thieves blade as main and this 1 as off-hand, makes it amazing for rouges

评论来自 goblinego

I am Rogue and when I chose need some mage sayed ''noob you dont need it! I need it because I'm beter than you!'' I was like ''huh?''.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Thats Amazing because on the precentile on this site it says VC drops the cruel barb about 14% of the time.With me ive gotten cruel barb once defias blackend once and cosairs overshirt like a million times

评论来自 Allakhazam

i currently have this weapon in the 2nd hand , i got it enchanted +2 beast slaying and it owns. Im a lvl 22 Human Rogue btw

评论来自 Allakhazam

been to deadmines 3 times, got 2 of these babies on my rogue. Level 26 now and nothing compares, i think the reward from the SM quest will probly replace these a little later

评论来自 Allakhazam

static means the item is dropped by a certain monster only. this doesn't mean it has to be "Binds when picked up"

评论来自 Allakhazam

Heh... this sword dropped twice in row. Probably drop again. Everytime though, VC was rare for me and my buddy. I sware it's a horde thing because someone else was experincing it too.

评论来自 Allakhazam

why did blizz make this get dropped by the LAST guy of VC which might not even drop it?

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评论来自 Allakhazam

so i started doing the DM with me being a level 18NE hunter with a level 38 NE warrior.a level 16 Rouge.and a level 35 gnome mage.apparently when i get half way into the instance im like "hey, we are comin up on cleef and i need a new sword for duel wield.can i take the cruel barb?" and the rouge is like
"nope.i already called it and (wont say his name.the mage) said he would help me get it"
im like "what the hell?dude your level 16 and hunters need 'em too"
so we get to like the last part and i die right befor van cleef so im tired of tryin to do DM all day so i leave the group.2 seconds later i get a message from the rouge sayin "HAHA I GOT IT!" then linked the sword.consider me pissed.i tried DM 5 times and never finished it.each time i was with atleas 2 level 25s.

That rogue needed it more than you. You can use 2 handed weps ffs.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have ran DM maybe 7 times and am dueling twin Cb's on my lvl 21 dwarf warrior. also have gotten the jewled ring. and the staff twice.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Could any high lvl on Thunderlord run my level 11(soon to be 19 twink) through so i can get this and Blackened Defias Chestpiece? I don't have much money, but i can make jewelry:) Send a whisper to Frawstee or Lollersickle or mail me if i am not online. Thanks!

评论来自 Allakhazam

very nice weapon, very useful for a warrior. Still using it at 28 and haven't seen anything close to replacing it for under 30g. If you dont have one i recomend doing VC till you have it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i got this my very first deadmines run and i own all with this thing in main hand with no off wep thing is im A ROGUE so its pretty unusual to see a rogue runnin around with no off hand wep anyway this wep rocks

评论来自 Allakhazam

ive done deadmines 1 time. and i got the cruel barb gonna try and get another for dual wield :))

评论来自 Allakhazam

i have a 19 twink on hellscream named "dashadow" i used to duel wield these with +15 agi on both! OMG lol crit like every 3 hits! but i just got shadowfang and put +15 agi on it so i have shadowfang(+agi)/Cruel Barb(+agi) lol i jsut own ppl in wsg hp=1381 ag=132 lol anyone have a twink on hellscream let me know im teh GM of "Twinks R Us" a grat 10-19 pvp ... 20-29 COMINGSOON!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Both the hunter and the pally waited until the last second to roll need

Err... no.

Who said this was strictly a Rogue weapon? Hunters need this aswell. Hunters Dual Weild too. So do Warriors. I understand a Pally wouldn't need this but Hunters do. I'm currently farming VC for another Cruel Barb and the Blackened Defias Armour but they NEVER drop. I'm getting so annoyed.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i dual wielded cruek barb w/ protector's sword on my warr until lvl 29, when it was replaced by my zealot blade.

评论来自 Allakhazam

14 runs through DM and killing VC and still no cruel barb for my 19 twink, just my horrible luck. However, defias armor has dropped 6 of those times. I think I am destined to never get this for him :(

评论来自 Allakhazam

this is the altimate twink weapon!

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've got this and a Twisted Sabre on my 27 war. The enchants are Twisted Sabre (Fiery weapon) and on this it is (+4 weapon damage)

评论来自 Allakhazam

I hated it for my druid cus i went through Deadmines a billion times with my druid for emberstone staff and didnt get it. Then i went in with my pally when he was level 18 and i got the CRUEL barb, AAAAANNNNNDDD the emberstone staff! first run and got the barb for pally and got lucky and got Emberstone staff on pally, but cant send to druid BoP

评论来自 Allakhazam

just to tell you a 19 rogue with defias set isnt A TWINK! u need the better armor like the leggs from wc , the lynx boots , and the forest leather bracers , the cloak from wc , and some good enchants like +15 agility , crusader , or lifestealing on cruel barbs or other lvl 19 blues

评论来自 Allakhazam

I think the shadowfang is better

评论来自 Allakhazam

ha ha got it on my first two runs ever on vc i was level 12 and i greeded both of them and got them with a 12 roll lol

评论来自 Allakhazam

I did the deadmines like 6 times to get the sword i was lvl 21 at that time. And lmao im still using the sword and im lvl 35, its funny when you win duels with it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

My first run on my Talranar character it dropped, mad lucky, imma keep it in my off hand and a dagger in my main hand.

评论来自 Allakhazam

You cant buy this from anyone Yetilover, Its a Bind on Aquire, so just go to VC and get it. I got it on my first time down there. ver lucky i suppose.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'll tell ya what. There are better weapons out there, for my lvl. They cost a LOT. I'll just keep my pair of Barbs, till someone drops better.

Also, if you are a high enough lvl, might I suggest running lower level groups through DM. Just pass on ALL treasure, and let them know not to roll on Crule Barb if it drops. If one weapon is your ONLY reward, most partys are happy to let you do ut.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i got this on third run and is great for all u lvl 17-20 go to Dm's like 5-10 u get like 10k xp and u get good stuff

评论来自 Allakhazam

i have runned DM so many times and it has never dropped and you guys say it drops all the time

评论来自 Allakhazam

Nah if you are'nt seeing it drop you are just getting very unlucky. My lvl 19 twink double wields these with +4 on each and a full defias set. If you cant get them to drop, and need to avoid xp to stay at 19, just ask a 60 to run it a few times while you stay at the entrance. wont take too long.

评论来自 Allakhazam

ill give 5g to a level 60 that runs me through Deadmines a few times on the Malorne realm
/tell rother (Horde)

评论来自 Allakhazam

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评论来自 Allakhazam

Rogue weapon only. Anyone who tries to get this who is not a 19 twink rogue( or maybe war or pala) is an idiot. It took me 30 runs to get this and blackened defias armour from VC on my 19 twink. If your planning on passing 19 then this is a waste of time. In the time it took me to get this(having a 62 mage run me through) anyone could easily grind from lvl 20-32. You will replace this sword to easily at 30 and using some green is way faster training.

Btw rhe reason i said rogue only weapon, is because hunters cant Duel wield at 19....Most hunter twinks use twisted chanters staff, and a sword and shield isnt much fun for a warrior twink.

My point is if you dont plan on twinking dont waste your time. Vc gives nearly no xp at 23 + and its just a waste. Stop carring about blues at a low lvl. You will replace them to easily.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I Might be a little late with this replie, but I want to get some things straight. This could be usefull for all new Twinks...

MH: Always Cruel Barb or a Shadowfang (if yer lucky), no stinging viper or whatever... trust me, ive tried them all :P

OF: IMO get a Thief's Blade from DM, some say its dumb but I know better. The +7 Agi and Quick Speed make it the best offhand, even better then Assassin's Blade! The Agi is better then the Stats on a Assassin's Blade and its Quicker, which you always want as a Offhand. The low DPS should be no problem, considering your MH would be affected by the +7 Agi.

Pants: For those ppl who still dont know, Get Dark Leather Pants (From LW) and throw a Clefthoof Leg Armor kit on it. This is the "Enchant" that will give you the 30 Stam + 10 Agi. Or go with a Nethercleft Leg Armor which gives 40 Stam and 12 Agi.
Leggings of the Fang suck because you will not be able to put a Leg Armor kit on it; its Bind on Pickup, and they only can be applied to a BoE item (Send the BoE pants to a LW who will put the Leg Armor Kit on it and let him send it back).

And for the Ranged weapon: Never, Ever, go with a Venomstrike as a Rogue... The Lack of Autoshot and good proc rate on it will make it Outpwnd by better weapons. These are Thick Bronze Darts (Made with Blacksmithing) and Throat Piercers (Sold in Ghostlands so Horde only >=O ). They have Stats that effect your DMG so they should always be used...

Now, I hope this helps. I find my own Twink (Feints, Steamwheelde Cartel EU) the best balanced Twink and I highly recommend everyone to gear yourself like her or better (Lawl at having 285 SS Crit xDDD) and if you want to check the ultimate Twink around, check Orochínmaru, Scarshield Legion (EU).

Luvs,
~Feints

评论来自 Allakhazam

i done 20times n only once it dropped n a damn 26warrior took it n that was on first time n i never saw it again anyone on spirestone that's highlvl can help me get it for couple hours until i get all i got brotherhood cloak,bblack defias tunic. that's all i got of VC.. lol

评论来自 Allakhazam

I duel weilded this babey from when i was level 19 to almost level 30. I'll never forget the good times. lol well this sword definately pwns for its level.

评论来自 Allakhazam

won it over a warrior lvl 18 3rd run

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've run the Deadmines a bunch of times, and finally got my 2nd Cruel Barb. Now, if only I could get the Blackened Defias chestpiece... >:(

评论来自 Allakhazam

The only defias leather worth wearing is the blackened defias chest. There are much better blues and greens available. Do some research with the advanced item search and open a whole new world to your view.

And duel wielding cruel barbs with lifesteal and crusader are about as good as it gets for rogues. Do some careful analysis of what talent spec you can make use of--and yes, using a dagger has its advantages depending on what you want to do, so cruel barb may not be everyone's wet dream.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I suppose that I'm really lucky to have gotten this today, especially seeing all the sad stories on here, and that this was my first time running VC. The group I was with was absolutely fantastic, and the roll for the Cruel Barb was really close, with something like 4 out of 5 group members rolled, and everyone was in the high 70's to 80's on the roll. I won with an 87, yet nobody complained, seeing as how I'd only won about two other rolls in the entire run. I was kinda sad though, because I was wanting the Blackened Defias Armor, but oh well...

评论来自 Allakhazam

This sword is awesome! I LOVE IT! Unfortunatly, it took me forever to get it. I had to get two level 60's to escort me through the Deadmines, but when I got it, it was quite helpful!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Got 2 of these in 2 runs for my 19 Twink ^^.

评论来自 Allakhazam

okay so im atm im twinking a troll rogue lvl 19 an so far i have been so lucky (touch wood)
i've run dm twice got defias armor an cruel barb
run wc 4 times got leggings of the fang twice an stinging viper
pretty insane
now i've just gotta get venomstrike

评论来自 Allakhazam

" got a lvl 44 to solo DM.. about 5 times got it 3 times >D.. useing one for my lvl 21 lock :P.. sold the 2 others :) "
Are you stupid...
A) They dont drop that often...
B) THIER BIND ON PICKUP! YOU CANT SELL THEM !

you must be some type of mentaly impared kid..
any further questions tell me :-D

评论来自 Allakhazam

lol i have 2 of these equiped..and 2 of in my bank..trying to get Black defias armor..but it wont drop ¬¬

评论来自 Allakhazam

i've been run through the deadmines like 30 times, and run it with a group a few times too, And we have only gotten one crual barb, So im a little dissapointed :/

评论来自 Allakhazam

See, I have a 22 warrior and I've MT'ed the instance about 36 times so far. Its only droped twice when I was there, but the first time a friend of mine and I allowed another one of our friends to loot it. 36 runs and I finally got it.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This sword shows what grabby little SOBs rogues are. I ran VC 3 or 4 times and each time the group had at least 2 rogues squabbling over who got to keep Cruel Barb. And they were the ones who didn't leave the group in a hissy fit.
In all the times I ran VC the Cruel Barb didn't even drop. Hahahahahaha!
Didn't stop them ninja-ing the Defias armour though......

评论来自 Allakhazam

Just got this for my lvl 20 rogue after my 10th VC run, dinging 21 about 30 minutes later in Redridge.

Dual-wielding with the Talon of Vulturos.

Yeah. My DPS is through the roof now. Nothing can stand for very long, not even elites.

Well worth the wait.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I did get this weapon in The Deadmines, got it from VanCleef yesyes..My second time in there, i got this, it's very nice for a rogue indeed, that's what i experienced. Still using this for my lvl.26 Rogue, and haven't yet found an replacement.

评论来自 Allakhazam

2 runs, 2 drops, both to me XD
I can't even dual weild them yet :P
Level 15 Hunter :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Farmed dm today with my rogue. In about 10 runs this dropped three times and the armor dropped twice. Dual wielding two of these... It kicks ass I tell ya

评论来自 Allakhazam

Here's my sob story so far:

Have now done about 15-20 runs for cruel barb since turning lvl 18. Didn't get one to drop for the longest time, then had one drop in three consecutive runs. Got outrolled by a hunter, a pally, and a 16 rogue. I never rolled less than 80. Both the hunter and the pally waited until the last second to roll need and then promptly left group and stoned out while i fumed (made it clear ahead of times in all groups that I would roll need ONLY for the barb and for nothing else, and everyone said they wouldn't roll against me).

Since I haven't had anyone run me through, just doing pick-up groups got me xp as i kept running it, and now i'm approaching lvl 26. It won't be long before it's not even good enough for me. Just rotten luck i guess.

Looking back I probably should've had one of my buddy's 60's run me through until it dropped. That way I wouldn't get it ripped off from me, and i would still be of a lvl to make use of it. I was hoping to earn it though, silly me.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i went dm like 12 times when i was lvl 18, i lvled to 20 and only ever got the oversairs shirt and brotherhood cape, it sucked..

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is a story, about a hell, = my life.

Se this, yesterday the cruel barb was dropped and it was my first time in the Deadmines, and a ninja took it so i took his staff. Now the day after ( today ) i was in the deadmines for my second time and guess what luck i had! The blackened defias armor was dropped, but i ensured my team that they DIDNT TOOK IT, but what are you gonna do, a ninja took it and he said sorry i will give it back, he tryed then he understood how mad i was. Yep, thats my life THATS WHY DONT GO WITH TEAMS TO THE DEADMINES! THEY TAKE ALL YOUR STUFF, STUFFS THAT YOU WANT!

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have ran Deadmines 50 times total with my 29 twink rogue and my 19 twink rogue and the Cruel Barb or Blackened Defias Armor has never dropped for me. I dont know what i will do for twinkage at 19 without a Cruel Barb >.<

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have ran DM maybe 7 times and am dueling twin Cb's on my lvl 21 dwarf warrior. also have gotten the jewled ring. and the staff twice.

评论来自 Allakhazam

pfff. why bother farming for that?

Start farming 刺客之刃 instead, so much better for rogue. Im running SFK all the time to get to of those, (with my 60 warrior so no chance of others taking loot! wahahah) :P no but that is a good rogueweapom guys, take that instead

Edited, Sat May 21 11:56:16 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

droped today of the rare boss hes a captain i think i just disenchanted it tho cuz im a 52 just trying to get mats to enchanting

评论来自 Allakhazam

im getting 2 of these on my lv 19 rogue and im gonna put lifestealing on one and crusader on the other...muahhaahahhaha!

评论来自 Allakhazam

My level 19 twink rogue has both of these, and fiery on each. The damage output of the 2 swords together is just mindblowing. Level 19 rogue doing 3-500dps is just insane. I annoy the people in WSG so bad because they cant afford a twink and I can. It is insane how when in WSG, I just run for the speed buff and go out and steamroll the whole opposing team to death. Words can not descirbe how powerful this sword is for level 19.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've been playing wow and I've had enough alts to have run VC at least... 100+ times. i've never... ever, ever not once seen it drop. What's up with that aye?

评论来自 Allakhazam

i have passed VC about 200+ times just to get the cruel barb and amlost half of those time where with my lvl 60 rouge and only once i have found this drop. it is very difficult to get this drop

评论来自 Allakhazam

iu wuzent even aiming for 1 and i got it on the 3rd run im gonna try and get another one so i can make my rogue a twink ;-) ya i know people are saying that the blackened defias set isent the best well they can blo me because the whole set has a bonus look it up on here tell me what other set is so much better then this.....

评论来自 Allakhazam

My first time runnin deadmines i got this drop, and i was all excited because i got it so easy. No problems with rolling or anything. Then i ran SFK 6 times and finally i got meteor shard. That was when i was about lvl 27, i am lvl 32 now and still using both of these, i think i should start looking for a new sword to use. :D

评论来自 Allakhazam

I HATE NINJA'S lol

Went to DM 4 times in all with my twink with a level 67 mages help, shammy and another rogue there too. first time cosaires overshirt dropped. second time cruel barb droppes, me and the rogue rolled and he won. He agreed to let me have the next one if it droppes. we went again and it dropped, he 'accidently' clicked need and then pi**ed off back to stormwind. i asked him and he gave me a load of dum@$$ excuses which ofc didn't add up and it was obvious it was intentional. The mage felt sorry for me so we went again, just my lcuk it dropped again :D. Its now got +15 agi in offhand ready to Pwn tht little ninja in a duel when i see him. Im looking out for assassins blade if anyone on Quel'Thalas Alli has one for sale. Anywayz cya all ^^

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Xinrokh - 66 NE Warr
Sépíróth - 19 Human Rogue
Vorpal - 30 Draenei Priest

评论来自 Allakhazam

Our friend ran VC all of yesterdy and cruel barb dropped twice in a row. I wasnt there for the first one so everyone in the party letMY friend who was twinkin get it.(hes working on 2 right now).We were talking and he said come with him for the next run and he said if it drops u can hav it . Those were my favorite words. Well it did drop and he let me need it. i was soooo happy. =) I got that and My friend is running me through WC to get me Venomstrike and Stinging Viper. =) I dont know what enchants to get on it though? i think i would want fiery though. any tips on what enc hants let me know plz T_T

I LOVE MY GUILD!

Lvl 17 orc rouge on Malorne

评论来自 Allakhazam

wtf ive done DM at 5 times and hasent droped yet but ive gotten almost ever other blue drop.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I NEED THIS SWORD

评论来自 Allakhazam

do you guys know if warriors can dual wield? I am a 28 and I desperately want to dual wield with this. If I can dual wield, where can I learn? i have tried SW, IF and Darnassus, none of the weapon masters or warrior trainers seem to know!

accordboy

评论来自 Allakhazam

Dropped for my rogue first time and I won it! too nbad the cape of brotherhood and the rest of defias set"(except the belt)never did on other runs.

评论来自 Allakhazam

this is a great duel wield for a 20 warrior i duel wield it better than any 2h 20 weapon i god after my 1st one after my 9th time runnin DM but its still amazing for protection warrior

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've only been in the deadmines twice and i have both the blackened defias armor and the cruel barb :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have spent countless hours doing deadmines. I am 0/15, it has dropped twice and I have lost the loot to a Mage, and to a Priest. Please, high levels on Kil'Jaeden, rush me through this so I can have a better shot at getting this, I want it so bad. =(

评论来自 Allakhazam

OK so I did and finsihed all the queast in deadmines (who cares) I killed VC rolled on the sword and won, but then my invantory was full so I droped a item and then I went to get the sword but there was a glitch and I could not click it...

评论来自 Allakhazam

im going to make my level 19 rogue the best in Warsong... what should i wield?((please leave me a mail))

评论来自 Allakhazam

I actually got it 5 times when I ran thru with my pally, and couple other characters :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

got a lvl 44 to solo DM.. about 5 times got it 3 times >D.. useing one for my lvl 21 lock :P.. sold the 2 others :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

I have a 18 rogue on Defias Brotherhood and i want this Sword... Got a 58 lock too that can grind boe blue swords and daggers to the rogue, have enchanting too so i can get them to look nice... To bad this one is bop -_-

评论来自 Allakhazam

First of all, if you say "OMG DEFIAS SET ISNT TWINK"
then youre wrong. it's clearly about skills, and btw if you put fiery weapon on 2x of These, believe me. then its not about gear anymore.

评论来自 Allakhazam

First of all, if you say "OMG DEFIAS SET ISNT TWINK"
then youre wrong. it's clearly about skills, and btw if you put fiery weapon on 2x of These, believe me. then its not about gear anymore.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I got this the first time I ran Dead Mines with my Warrior, I also got the Task Master. I'e been trying to get it again but no luck I've only ran it 3 times with my warrior.

评论来自 Allakhazam

man i kept doing it and now i am so like mad and pissed beacous it never droped once and i had a lvl 60 mage help me countless hours and it never droped now i am to high of a lvl 4 it so i am helping my frind get it a lvl 18 rouge get it i hop he can get it

评论来自 Allakhazam

A mage won this? WTF? KILL HIM!

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ya i got this on me first run. I was hoping for Difias chest (17 rogue) but i guess scence this inst very common it will do. Cant wait to use it. O ya i herd about 20 mins of $%^&*ing from the hunter(greeding everything, got that blu staff and mace) and when i get this he busted a nut.
Is difias rear drop? just wondering....

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ive been there at least 50+ times so far, I started there at lvl 15, tried to get it until lvl 29, and NO drops. I was there about 35 times total. So from 29-42 I was there like 14 times for guild runs, I go there yesterday for shats and giggles and solo it, and WHAM, Theres a Cruel Barb.....

Elor-Lothar

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ive been to DM about..O 100+ times now, ive seen it drop about 15 times, its not a bad drop rate, just below the armor i would say, yer im working on another bg char again. Lol last rogue i moved up to next bg's. So need to start again..

- Brave

评论来自 Allakhazam

oh my god i want those for my rogue

评论来自 Allakhazam

I got this when I was a level 17 warrior. It is a really nice weapon, I can cream ppl that I thought that I couldn't :O

评论来自 Allakhazam

I escorted my boyfriend's lvl 20 hunter through her because he really wanted to dual weild cruel barbs. The last few times I had gone through, VanCleef only dropped the cape and overshirt. We were incredibly lucky, because we got two cruel barbs to drop in a row!

If only I could have luck like that when it comes to getting whelplings...

评论来自 Allakhazam

im strangly lucky. every time we kill him a cruel barb drops. id like for some other blue items to drop from him :( iv already gotten about 5 of the cruel barbs and vendered 3 of em

评论来自 Allakhazam

i love the horror stories people share about their twinks or just regular chars that cant get this blade to drop. my first warrior rolled need at a low lvl and got this the first time. soon after he greeded the next 2 and i had 3 barbs :D. worth jack &*!@ tho :(. i have sentinels blade for my rogue and i wana off-hand a high dmg sword or mace, was thinking about this one.

oh and stop calling Deadmines 'DM'.... DM = dire maul dammit.... VC = VanCleef = Deadmines...

评论来自 Allakhazam

I got 2 blackned defiasarmor in 2 runs but no Cb)=.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i got it the first time ever i did DM and then i did a mess around run and won it again... so i duel-wielded them for a bit now that im lvl 35 im still using one and dueling with an axe... great weapon

评论来自 Allakhazam

i'm a troll hunter lvl 20..do u think it will be easy to get to dead mines with a 5 man party?

评论来自 Allakhazam

I'm a lvl 22 pally and I ran through VC with some guildmates and this dropped for me. Even better is paring this with the shield I got for the Pally quest, Bastion of Stormwind, that I picked up right after finishing my VC run. Apparently, this drop is REAL rare because all my guildmates groaned when I got the drop due to them running it countless times and whenever they would run a lvl 20 or so through they would get the drop.

评论来自 Allakhazam

you can all shoot me because ive had this drop 5 runs, and its not what ive been freaking running for! ive been trieing to get the blackened defeias chest for my warrior twink, buts its cruel barb after corsairs overshirt, literally a dozen time. im so pissed at this wep right now. my bank has an entire lin eof themROAR!

评论来自 Allakhazam

i was on my lvl 15 lock and got ran thru by a friendly 60. got ring, wand, and black defias armor on first run. i didnt want the armor so it was disenchanted. second run was with a masterloot runner. he gave emberstone staff to me by default and then also gave the sword to me since no one else seem to want it. group full of casters. so now i got a lvl 19 twink lock on trial thats gonna have all this rot within 10 days. how the hell can ppl be pissed over these items since its just a game. items come and go and i guess once u get the item, its nothing new anymore. if you gonna twink and be pissed ur char went over lvl, then you werent in the mindset to get the item anyways. do what ppl alrdy said. get a lvl 60 runner and do the run early in ur career.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Assassin's blade + Cruel Barb for 19 PvPing is a very good combo. Im yet to get this for me twink though.. :'(

评论来自 Allakhazam

You are all wasting time...OMFG GO TO AH lol

评论来自 Allakhazam

u wont believe this...

I was doing vc with my lvl 19 nearly 20 tauren warrior.. just for cruelbarb but unfortunately we had a rogue in our group. He was like 'can i have cruel barb please', and at that time i felt nice and let him have it. We did vc again and cruelbarb dropped. again..lucky. He needed again and won the roll...I was a little pissed. We were a pretty good group so we did vc a coule more times and cruel barb dropped AGAIN. zomg the rogue bloody needed it. again. won. he said 'soz mate, but thats a nice item to disenchant'

that's just retarted <3

58 Undead mage-Draenor
20 Tauren warrior- Frostmourne
36 BE hunter- Frostmourne
sometimes u just wanan know if u really wanna know that u know u just wanna know

评论来自 Allakhazam

wow i want one... anyone on suramar want to sell? or ill go and kill... edwin?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Iwasjust curious if anyone has found the shadowfang sword in SFK? I ran through 10 times no luck.

评论来自 Allakhazam

It's well known issue that this is bad weapon for lvl 19 rogue twink, and rogues are bad twinks for lvl 10-19 range. You can't win with youre rogue if you dont make icy chills on both of these swords. Still I think that Skeletal Club & That mace from WC are better than this. GL HF.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Can you say twink? ;D
I have two of these on my 19 rogue twink on Zul'jin server. It's the best there is, unless you want a dagger...But I pretty much pwn most hordies with my swords. Also, only fiery enchants on them atm, but I'm aiming for Lifestealing or Crusader...or maybe both....or maybe unholy...

评论来自 Allakhazam

its very nice for a lvl 19 rouge to i can assure you :)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Its awesome. I pwn monsters i could never pwn before w/ this at hand

评论来自 Allakhazam

I've been running Deadmines for 6 times. I've got the chest (the first run was a boost so I got +100hp enchant for 1g:P) and the cape, which I got during the last run. I'm a rogue and I'm really wanting to get atleast one Cruel Barb. GL to myself :P

评论来自 Allakhazam

what would be the safest & fastest way to get to the deadmines if i was a blood elf

评论来自 Allakhazam

Edited, Mon Mar 6 08:17:07 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

First 2 times i ran it with my twink i got it both times. lol just need the pants , cloak , a the mace from WC . then just ned enchants and ill be happy . i want to own the horde in LOTHAR !
i hate when i go in wsg with my low lvl alts and they kill me in 1 hit , so watchout horde!

评论来自 Allakhazam

This one just dropped for me about 2 days ago. I was going thru with 3 friends from my guild and I was lucky enuff for it to drop. Been using it since.

评论来自 Allakhazam

anyone know what is a good, relatively easy sword to find for dual wielding? i have a lvl 22 night elf hunter, and i just got one of these.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I can't believe how much of a noob I was back then and dual wielded 2 of smite's reavers ROFL when I could've easily dual wielded 2 of these because I did VC so many times.

some suggestions (for warriors and rogues)
alliance:
do VC until you get 2 (warriors you can dual at 20)
horde:
just do WC and get a stinging viper along with the wingblade.

Edited, Feb 14th 2007 12:37am by Slashr

评论来自 Allakhazam

hi how do i buy cruel barb? how do i buy ihems?

评论来自 Allakhazam

Im a lvl 19 rogue and it took me five hours to get that from dead mines and its all worth it and all i can say is wow i had to get a lvl 41 and 49 to help it was funny 8P

评论来自 Allakhazam

After you get one, start working on getting a second one. One is good, two is better.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Anyone know if the +12 to attack power also add's on to your ranged damage?

I have a hunter twink and was interested in using this while at ranged with a +15 agility enchant on it adding to my crit chance, then switching to a two handed sword or axe when within melee range.

Edited, Aug 21st 2006 at 1:13am EDT by wastegated

评论来自 Allakhazam

I ran it once in the back with a 44 warrior and it dropped for me at the end. It's pretty sweet but I need two more levels to use it. Also, what are good enchants for it and can anyone suggest armor that is better than defias because I already have the Tunic of Westfall.

评论来自 Allakhazam

heres wat happened 2 me:

I first had a 60 friend run me thru over 50 times for this thing. Didn't drop once. So then i decided to do a real run. I went thru it 10 times, and it dropped twice. Ok, first time i clearly stated in the beggining "hey guys, ive done this so many times, cna i get cruel barb if it drops?" and they all agreed they would let me get. At the end it dropped, i rolled need and i was so excited. Then, at the end, the pally rolled need and won, then left the grp. So that was annoying. Second time was even worse. So this run was me (im a rogue), a mage, a lock, a warrior which alrdy had 2 CB's, and a guildee which was a hunter. I toht for sure i would get this time. I rolled need, and then my guildee rolled need, won the roll, and left the guild.
wat really sucks is that i wanted to be a 19 twink, but after all this runnin, i ended up being 20. =/

ne ways, thats my story, i was so pissed.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Ah i finally won this. I never got it on my warrior because it got ninja'd twice and i just got this on my rogue after this shammy tried to ninja it. We had a weird looting problem and the shammy tryed to pick it up but I got it first.

评论来自 Allakhazam

My lvl. 70 friend was going to run me and two other friends through DM so we could finish some quests. Everyone else but me had to back out, and I got this as well as the wand off cookie and some random gloves, and I was a lvl 21 lox. Luck was with me that day.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This weapon kicked but for a day or two..........

评论来自 Allakhazam

is there a vc mission for horde because my paly did not need this but my warlock does this weapon is amazing.

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评论来自 Allakhazam

I take it its a rare drop... In the last week ive done 153 DM Runs on my 3 alts, and no time has this dropped... always blackened defias armor, corsairs overshirt, or the cape of the brotherhood...

评论来自 Allakhazam

I find these about half the times I've run DM. Which is good, because I use swords often. More than half of the remaining times, the cape drops, which is also a good cape at 20.
Nevertheless, these swords are incredible, beaten only by the Shadowfang, which is simply too hard to come by.

Edited, Mon Mar 20 20:32:30 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

got it today on my first run, made me change from dual dagger to dagger/sword.

评论来自 Allakhazam

I think its nice but never got it im Priest warrior Gnome all that see it drop 1 time i been DM like i dont know 30 times! but i only got the coarsis shirt cape and the Blacened armor and that stuff i thing the barbs nice but im warrior twink with the smites hammer with fiery owning the rogues with 2 cruel barbs and fiery on both there easy but got owned by an little rogue with agi and lifestealing
she was crasy but got my priest twink friend to heal me in the bushes so i owned her HaRd! hehe see ya =) .!. (-.-) .!.

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Troll mage Rocks ( Level 53 mage :Der playing on aggamagan)

评论来自 Allakhazam

is killing Edwin vancleef the only way to get cruel barb?

评论来自 Taraezor

Yes rogues. This weapon is for YOU.

I cannot stress how very very powerful this weapon is for rogues. You must grind Deadmines until it drops.

My rogue is at the stage of running Scarlet Monastery Armory. Along the way I have luckily had 催眠之刃, 剧毒复仇者 and 比泽尔之锤 drop for me. Juggling all four of these excellent weapons and it remains that my Cruel Barb wins every time in terms of the "Damage" stat for my main hand.

(The Damage stat is the one you see when you mouse over Melee Attack -> Damage on your character's paper doll )

This is because the +12 to Attack Power is quite strong and in my case almost +4% of my base AP. I carry the other weapons with me so I might optimise for situational fights.

Sadly, it took me about 20 runs of the second boss in Gnomeregan to secure my Toxic Revenger (mostly solo - easy for rogues) but it did not stand the test of time. My Cruel Barb from VanCleef lives on!

评论来自 DiamondOrPoor78

I just got this on my third ever deadmines run, it's insane! Great for rogues!

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