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Основная беда на этом боссе это стена из элементалей - как она спавнится.
Не уверен, что мои наблюдения на 100% верны, но за 2 кила было замечено что линия элемов спавнится землеломом в танка который его танкует и развернута лицом к танку. То есть получается, что босс стоит как бы в середине шеренги. Соответственно если в этот момент танк догадается поставить босса спиной к стенке или зданию, то шеренга станет вдоль стены и не будет мешать.

Комментарий от BurningMedved

Первое серьезное испытание для пуга, пошедшего в нормал.

Тактика 10 ппл для бичей вроде меня.

Вам потребуется: 3 танка, 2 лекаря, 5 дд, из которых минимум два (лучше три) ренжа.

Перед боем необходимо зачистить весь треш в Аллее. Группа, состоящая из двух танков, лекаря и всех мили дд, хватает Харомма и уводит его ко входу в Волок. Это уменьшит урон по боссам, но решит сразу несколько проблем:
1) Милишникам будет покласть на слизней, они будут продолжать вливать в босса.
2) Освободится пространство для маневра ренжам из-за отсутствия стен пепла в рейде.
3) Падающий пепел будет наносить крайне мало урона.
4) Мерзкий поток не будет наносить урон ренжам, им не придется убегать от него и терять дпс.

Помимо этого отличия, все стандартно: выбегать из торнадо, не стоять на пути мерзкого потока, заливать слизней. Танки мили группы расставляют стены таким образом, чтобы потихоньку выводить босса к крепости Громмаш и меняются на заранее оговоренном числе стаков. Когда боссы сдают БЛ, отвечаем им тем же.

Комментарий от 831319

Шаманы имеют шанс дополнительно полутать с этого босса Сокровище кор'кронского темного шамана, в котором содержится полный сет брони для трансмогрификации. Коробочка падает во флексе и выше.

Kardris: "Prepare for trouble!" || Haromm: "And make it double!"

Kardris: "To sink our enemies in devastation." || Haromm: "To subdue the non-orcs within our faction."

Kardris: "To denounce the evils of Vol'jin and the Alliance." || Haromm: "To extend our reach to Draenor and beyond!"

Kardris: "KARDRIS!"

Haromm: "HAROMM!"

Bo th: "Dark Shaman blasting off in the speed of light ning!"

Haromm: "Surrender now or prepare to die!"

Darkfang: "RAWWWWWWWR! THAT'S RIGHT!"

Bloodclaw: "RWAAABLOODCLAW!" /woobuffetface

Комментарий от geekygirlish

No comments on how to fight them other than ashen wall tip?

Ok I tried these bad boys, and as a destro lock nerfed by Blizz, this was a hard fight. They throw up so much AOE that you are constantly on the run, which makes it hard to cast anything that does any real dmg. I know some will say they did it in their fishing gear blah blah, but I found this practically impossible to stay alive if I was trying to add some real dps, and if I did stay alive, all I did was run away. Now that locks can't cast immolate, drain life or chaos bolt on the run, we're stuck with lesser spells if we have to keep moving. Drain life is now only a single target now so I didn't feel I added much to this particular fight. AOE is the name of the game in this fight.

The shamans cast wind aoe and the walls which look like stone elementals. WInd will move, elementals just kill you if you get near them. They keep throwing up toxic slime which is deadly. Slime will kill everyone, so these are the main focus to get rid of for dps. Leave the shamans to the tanks. Kill the two wolves to begin with, they go down easily. The shamans share life so don't worry about any sequence of killing, they'll both die when one dies.

I tried this early days so maybe someone will add better tactics or tips. This is only what I experienced doing this.

Комментарий от Ghouls

He seems to feel remorse when he dies.

Комментарий от jetfire158

Normal, Flex, and LFR:

The Dark Shamans will summon all sorts of AoEs. Really the only thing that matters here is staying out of the bad. This can be done in a number of ways, but the most important thing is to make sure your tanks are kiting the bosses out of the AoEs ASAP. The room is very large, so you should have plenty of room to kite.

As the fight progresses, they will gain more and more abilities. They start out inside Gnommash Hold, and since the fight would likely be impossible to execute successfully inside, you will need to send a hunter or rogue in to pull them out then Исчезновение or Притвориться мертвым to reset them. Once this has been done, they will reappear sitting outside the building on their wolf mounts.

The first thing you will have to deal with is Harrom's Удар ледяной бури. This is your tank swap mechanic. Generally people like to switch off at 3 stacks but this can be dependent on your specific tanks.
Next, the first AoEs they will put out are Токсичный туман and Ядовитая буря. The key here, as mentioned previously, is to kite them away from the Toxic Storms as quickly as possible, since the Toxic Mist debuff will intensify damage taken from them. The storms do move, so keep that in the back of your mind, but they are very slow so it shouldn't be that much of a concern.
Thirdly, you'll get Мерзкий поток and Мерзкий гейзер. Melee need to stay away from the Мерзкая слизь. They hit hard. Even more reason to be making sure your tanks are kiting the bosses away from these adds ASAP. Ranged will need to stun them and focus them down so that tanks and melee can get away. Also, the player targeted by the Foul Geyser needs to take it in a direction away from where the tanks are kiting the bosses. Thus, it's a good idea to have a predetermined kiting path (for example, a circular path around the entire room), which might also help your group avoid unexpectedly running into AoEs.
Last AoEs to be thrown out will be Падающий пепел and Стена из пепла. These are fairly simple. The former is a giant meteor that will land at the center of a big, bright, red circle on the ground and explode. Do NOT be in the big red circle. The latter is a line of elementals that will form at an angle perpendicular to the direction the boss is facing. Don't run into them, and tanks don't kite the bosses into them. Do not try to kill them, as they will die on their own after a certain amount of time.

This AoE ability sequence will repeat itself for the duration of the encounter. When the bosses reach 25% health, they will lust, so you should also lust. Keep in mind that their health pool is shared, so it won't matter which one is being targeted by DPS at any given time; they will reach 25% at the same time no matter what. And yes, they will continue to cast the AoEs in the same order once they've lusted.

TL;DR?
Simple! Kite, kite, kite, and stay out of AoE. That's it, really. However, that being said don't dismiss a simple fight as an easy one. There will be a LOT of AoE all over the place, and they will keep you on your toes the entire time. If staying alive means temporarily stopping DPS, by all means, stay alive. Don't become so focused on burning the bosses that you fail to notice the AoEs around you before it's too late. Remember, if you die, your DPS is a big, fat ZERO. Thus, pumping out a little less damage than you typically do is better than dying.

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EDIT: After downing these guys this week, I've found that there is another strategy that makes this fight MUCH easier. It requires 3 tanks, however, and thus requires someone with a tank off-spec. The idea is to have two tanks inside Gnommash Hold swapping aggro on Haromm, since he is the one with the stacking damage debuff, along with one or two strong healers (If you elect to place only one healer inside, I would recommend assigning a backup in case that healer goes down). Everyone else, including your third tank, will be outside the building kiting Kardris around the area.

This way, you only have to deal with 3-4 people dodging Haromm's abilities inside Gnommash Hold, and everyone else outside only having to dodge Kardris', instead of everyone having to run away from everything at the same time, which is what makes the fight so hectic. Most importantly, that means you won't have the Ashen Walls forming all the way across the area outside. In fact, Haromm can be positioned in the alcoves inside Gnommash whenever the walls form, making them small and easy to avoid by kiting him from alcove to alcove every time the walls appear.

This works extremely well because they have a shared health pool, and the DPS on Kardris will result in both of the bosses dying at the same time regardless of their positioning.

Комментарий от Longeria

This is the second week that we can fight this boss in LFR, and again so many players don't understand the mechanic, not what to do when there are adds you have to kill. last week 1 hour 25 minutes till it was down. This week it takes 1 hour 30 minutes. Not getting better :-( It takes me yesterday more then 3,5 hours to kill 4 bosses there. We got at least 4 new tanks, 10 new healers, and dunno how many new dps.

It look like there are more not normal raiding players in LFR then before. Since you can get Timeless Isle 496 gear the "old" LFR is like the same. So many wipes because 50% die on the beam of Durumur. The weeks before this Isle was open you was there and nobody dies.. now... it is normal at least 10-15 players are dead with the beam. All they know is the ZERG tactics. I really hope they learn a bit more.

Комментарий от Mormolyce

That's right kids, shaman is plural as well. See mom, WoW is educational!

Комментарий от 1148130

Drops the BiS main hand Скипетр Кардрис
/drool :P

Комментарий от Ryawy

Some groups may find it difficult to deal with these two particular sets of mechanics at the same time. This can be remedied by three-tanking the encounter, your two normal tanks and one good healer taking Haromm into the room Garrosh used to sit and a third tank and the rest of the group keeping Kardris outside after Darkfang and Bloodclaw are dead. A DPS with a tank spec and DPS gear is able to pass, but tank gear is recommended.

Each group will only need to deal with one boss's set of mechanics. The group inside should be able to avoid much of the damage from Ashen Wall and Foul Stream. The outside group will have the whole rest of the area to kite Foul Slimes and move from the Toxic Slimes. There won't be any slime-kiters being cut off by Ashen Walls or Foul Streams dropped on Toxic Storms.

Комментарий от Booooooo

Tip for Windwalker Monks; the clue is in their opening dialogue. "Storm, Earth and Fire!"

Once the wolves have been killed, split yourself in two and send your double to attack Kardris while you attack Haromm. If the tanks have split them up nicely then you personally will not have to go near Kardris and his Мерзкий гейзер shots, nor the Мерзкая слизь adds that spawn from it. However, your elemental copy can freely walk through them to keep up the damage on the boss AND you can cast Танцующий журавль while it is in the thick of all the Foul Slimes. Your copy will of course mirror your Spinning Crane Kick and help to kill all the adds!

I can't find the info anywhere regarding SE+F Elemental's health and damage taken, but I have to assume that they take reduced AoE damage like Hunter pets, because my copies have lasted the entire fight without dying besides one time where it despawned after about 8 minutes during their Bloodlust phase (in which case it takes just 1 second to recast the spell on Kardris). Whatever the answer is, this fight is extremely rough on Melee classes but to be able to let your double walk through all the heat and contribute to killing those nasty adds is amazing. Not to mention, SE+F is just a cool ability and provides a huge damage boost in a 2-target fight. It's like this fight was made specifically for Storm, Earth and Fire.

Here is a nice macro I found on Icy-Veins, allowing you to simply mouse-over a target to cast the spell instead of clicking on them:
#showtooltip Storm, Earth, and Fire
/cast Storm, Earth, and Fire

Good luck!

Комментарий от jhowzinho

for shamans they also have a chance to drop Сокровище кор'кронского темного шамана which contain a cosmetic transmog set exclusive for shamans with the same model of the dark shaman Kardris

Комментарий от ssjheero

Korkron Dark Shaman (10-Man Normal)

Contrary to what it looks like, this fight isn't all that complicated. The golden rule is: move your ass! This fight tests your ability to RUN WAY LITTLE GIRL, RUN AWAY. Some of the things to dodge: a meteor, falling ooze slimes, walls of ash, tornadoes, and poison mists. Fun fun. This fight requires 2 tanks at least, and just enough healers to help you survive. Ranged has an easier time in this fight, due to all the AOE, of course. I'll only go over the 2-tank strategy, for those groups who can't procure 3 tanks. (Like mine.)

Breaking it down, the fight gets a bit more involved as more abilities get thrown into the mix, and the abilities get thrown in at health percentage breakpoints. This fight is essentially a five-phase fight, even if they aren't delineated as such in the dungeon journal. In all phases of the fight, the bosses share a health pool, so cleaving is doubly powerful. Try and keep both bosses together, but the Berserk timer isn't that strict. Use the ENTIRETY of the area between the bank, auction house, gates, and Grommash Hold to kite the bosses and dodge the abilities.

Part 1: Animal Cruelty
First part of the fight is a simple tank-and-spank: kill Darkfang and Bloodclaw. Haromm only has the tank swap, Froststorm Strike, to worry about. Once the dogs are dead, beat up the bosses down to 85%.

Part 2: Toxicity
At 85%, the first complication is introduced. A Poisonmist Totem is dropped (can't be interacted with), and the two bosses each gain an ability. Haromm will target a random player with Toxic Mist, which is basically a void zone on the ground. Kardris will summon a Toxic Tornado, which'll chase you. Haromm retains the need to tank swap.

Part 3: Poison
At 65%, a Foulstream Totem is dropped. Haromm will randomly target a player and that player will get a green glow. A line of poison called Foul Stream will form colinear with Haromm and that player. That player should try to drop it in a place that doesn't interfere with the kiting path (preferably back the way the tanks came from). Kardris gets Foul Geyser, the more dangerous of the abilities. She will target her current tank and start channeling the Geyser, which will spit slimes at him. The slimes will land at wherever the tank was when it was launched, so that tank needs to constantly be moving to dodge the slime drops. Be creative on deciding where to drop the slimes, as the boss is stationary while she summons the slimes; run between the buildings briefly to drop the slimes, then go back out, picking up threat on them so they don't murder players. Everyone else, stay out of the tank's way. If you are in his path, you move, because a falling death puddle will murder you. AOE down the slimes then switch back to the bosses. Both bosses retain the tornado and the mist abilities.

Part 4: Ashes to Ashes
At 50%, an Ashflare Totem drops, granting one last ability. Haromm gets one of the most dangerous abilities in the fight: Ashen Wall. The Ashen Wall forms on his current tank, and forms on the tank to his left and right. Therefore, your Haromm tank needs to position himself so the Ashen Wall is dropped along the kiting path by putting his back to the outside of the path. It is not a good thing if the Ashen Wall juts out towards the center of the ring; that just interferes with the rest of the raid's ability to dodge everything else. Again, you can be creative on dropping the wall; if you can dip into an alcove when he's casting it, go ahead and try. If you are trapped by a wall, and an ability of certain death is coming, you'll have to play the odds (or pop a cooldown), and RUN through the wall. If you stay in the Foul Geyser, you will die. If you run through the wall, you probably will die, but have a chance to live. Kardris gains Falling Ash, which is just a big red circle on the ground. Stay out. As before, all previous abilites are retained. The Foul Stream and Foul Geyser happen at the same time as the Ashen Wall, so dodge everything.

Part 5: Bloodlust
They are shaman. At 25%, they will cast Bloodlust. Counter with your Bloodlust and burn the bosses. They still do all abilities, so dodge everything, kill the slimes, and burn the bosses down to 0.

Collect your loot from their corpses and proceed to Nazgrim.

Комментарий от KeigaElspeth

On Heroic:

As a Priest for this fight, I sometimes give another player Слово силы: Щит (with a mouseover macro) when they have Железная тюрьма in case that they forgot that it will run out or their personal is on CD on the last 4 seconds of the debuff.

Oh yeah, you can also use Духовное рвение (preferably on mouseover macro too) for baddies when needed :)

Комментарий от Jollygood

A little bit of flavor in the raid... after this boss, as you run through the drag, don't forget to take a moment (if you can) to free the poor goblins who are tied up as prisoner. They'd be ever so grateful. (No drops. No loot. Just a feeling of a good deed done for your little green friends.)

Комментарий от frakbt

I'm surprised there is no mention yet of the trash. We were in a rush when we first tried this, and only cleared the trash that would aggro around our kiting path. Well, all through the fight, the trash we didn't clear (including the Auctioneers) kept dribbling in and adding their two cents' worth. I'm not sure if it included every mob all the way up the path, but we'll be clearing them all now.

Комментарий от sitecow09

Their opening lines are a reference to the classic Shaman line from Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos. Instead of asking the elements for aid: "Storm, Earth and Fire, heed me call!" The Dark Shaman say "Storm, Earth, Fire, bend to our will!"

Комментарий от 1032859

I don't know if it's a bug or not, but I was able to disarm Haromm during the fight on flex. Have anyone else tried doing that?

Комментарий от panpanpandy

So... you know that scene you walk into, where the Overseer has beaten Ji Firepaw to mush and is threatening him?

For the love of god, do not wait to start attacking the trash.

In LFR, we lost over half the raid right before -- including all of our healers. We were waiting in queue for a good ten, fifteen minutes...

If you go too long without initiating any sort of fight in the area, the execution continues and Ji Firepaw dies. Followed by Aysa Cloudsinger, who rushes in to get revenge.

It was. Really jarring.

Комментарий от eliesaadarbis123

Hello everyone :D i was just wondering that do they still drop the xmog ? or its gone after the patch 6.0 ?

Thank you :D

Комментарий от 1636874

Wondering if it still drops in 2016 lol?

Комментарий от ZombieEris

110 Elly Shammy 801 ilvl
10n
Decided I would try to take them in grommash hold, found out that is a bad idea, got the group to 40% and then ran outside ended up dying when they were at 25% due to too many debuffs and the ground purple swirly thing.

Alright take two.
They spawn outside if you die (my guess most remember this from when this was current rather lfr or higher) Had to heal a time or two but mostly just popped cds and burned them down while moving a little bit. to get out of bad.

Will update when i go though higher difficulties

Комментарий от sircritzalot

I was wondering if Haromm's Horrifying Helm still drops? I'm interested in the Blue Gold version.

Комментарий от Pinkpaw

Mythic: Havoc DH 894. Fight is messy but just move around and dps, however all of the sudden during the fight i went from 100% hp to 10% in one go, so it became a bit of panic mode, looking on my combat log i dont see any one single thing but instead many very high hitting things all at once hitting me so just try to avoid things better then me and it shoudl be fine. Probably very hard as a caster cus you get to stand still like zero.

Комментарий от Babytoes

I was able to dual box this with 2 845ilvl prot warriors on MYTHIC after about 10 wipes trying all kinds of setups. Being prot and ignore pain really seems to make it much easier. Use Shield Wall just before Iron Prison hits.

Комментарий от kaleestraza

Soloed on Mythic by an 885 Guardian druid. Pretty easy, just make sure you have a healing CD or two free for that one big drop Pinkpaw mentioned. Iron Prison was never cast.

Комментарий от Exerxes

Solo'd Mythic with 110 Orc Fury Warrior at new ilvl 171.

Took me several attempts. I always did fine until something kept killing me. It was Kardris' Iron Prison.

I succeeded by taking out the pets first then smacking on the Shaman. I wasn't actually aware which one I targeted first as I used Whirlwind alot. I watched for the Iron Prison de-buff, it's on a 60 second timer I believe. When it hit the last few seconds I popped all my Warrior "Oh Crap!" skills. I think the most helpful one was Rallying Cry. The temporary buff kept me alive. I then Bloodlusted and Impending Victory'd back my health. It was then a DPS race to kill them both before the next Iron Prison counted down to zero.

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Землелом Харомм

Этот NPC может быть найден в следующих зонах: Осада Оргриммара .

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Героический		Эпохальный
Смертоносный		Важно
Танк		DPS
Лекарь		Прерываемо
Магический		Проклятие
Яд		Болезнь
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Обзор – Харомм и Кардрис начинают бой вместе со своими яростными боевыми волками. Эти два могущественных темных шамана обладают общим запасом здоровья и пользуются оскверненными тотемами, дающими каждому из них разные способности при получении урона.
- Бойцы –
  Если вы стали целью заклинания Харомма [Мерзкий поток], отводите взрыв подальше от других участников рейда.
  Держитесь подальше от [Стен из пепла] и мерзкой слизи – они наносят урон всем, кто находится поблизости.
- Лекари –
  Если вы стали целью заклинания Харомма [Мерзкий поток], отводите взрыв подальше от союзников.
  Держитесь подальше от [Стен из пепла] и мерзкой слизи – они наносят урон всем, кто находится поблизости.
  Когда [Падающий пепел] падает на землю, его взрыв наносит большой урон всем участникам рейда.
- Танки –
  Танкуйте Харомма по очереди, чтобы рассеять эффект [Удара ледяной бури].
  Вынуждайте Харомма ставить [Стены из пепла] так, чтобы они не ограничивали передвижение союзников.
  Не давайте мерзкой слизи, порожденной [Мерзким гейзером], добраться до ваших союзников.
Духовная связь – Наносимый урон разделяется между Землеломом Хароммом и Покорительницей волн Кардрис.
Жажда крови – Когда у темного шамана остается 25% здоровья, его охватывает жажда крови, и наносимый им урон повышается на 25%, а скорость – на 25%.
Черноклык и Кровавый Коготь – Верховые волки темных шаманов Черноклык и Кровавый Коготь будут яростно защищать хозяев.
- Размах – Наносит 3981 ед. физического урона целям на расстоянии 8 м перед заклинателем.
- Кровопускание – Яростный бросок на противника, который вызывает кровотечение, наносящее 398 ед. физического урона раз в 1 сек. в течение 15 sec. Эффект суммируется.

Тотемы

Во время боя темные шаманы используют тотемы, которые наделяют их новыми способностями.

Тотем ядовитого тумана – Тотем ядовитого тумана наделяет Землелома Харомма способностью "Токсичный туман", а Покорительницу волн Кардрис – способностью "Ядовитая буря". Темные шаманы используют тотемы ядовитого тумана, когда у них остается 85% здоровья.
Тотем мерзкого потока – Тотем мерзкого потока дает Землелому Харомму способность "Мерзкий поток", а Покорительнице волн Кардрис – способность "Мерзкий гейзер". Темные шаманы используют тотемы мерзкого потока, когда у них остается 65% здоровья.
Пепельный тотем – Пепельный тотем дает Землелому Харомму способность "Стена из пепла", а Покорительнице волн Кардрис – способность "Падающий пепел". Темные шаманы используют пепельные тотемы, когда у них остается 50% здоровья.
Заржавевший железный тотем – Заржавевший железный тотем наделяет Землелома Харомма способностью "Железная гробница", а Покорительницу волн Кардрис – способностью "Железная тюрьма". Темные шаманы используют заржавевшие железные тотемы, когда у них остается 95% здоровья.

Землелом Харомм
- Удар ледяной бури – Поражает игрока заряженным льдом оружием, нанося 6220 ед. урона от магии льда. Игрок получает 25% дополнительного урона от удара ледяной бури в течение 30 sec. Этот эффект суммируется.
- Токсичный туман – Отравляет нескольких игроков токсичным туманом, нанося 1617 ед. урона от сил природы раз в 3 сек. в течение . и повышая уровень концентрации яда. Токсичный туман воздействует изнутри, поэтому к нему нельзя быть невосприимчивым. Эту способность дарует тотем ядовитого тумана.
  - Концентрация яда – Повышает получаемый урон от сил природы на 10% за каждый эффект.
- Мерзкий поток – Мерзкий поток наносит 6220 ед. урона от сил природы всем противникам, стоящим в ряд. Эту способность дарует тотем мерзкого потока.
- Стена из пепла – Призывает ряд пепельных элементалей, которые не могут передвигаться и атакуют противников, находящихся неподалеку. Эту способность дарует пепельный тотем.
- Железная гробница – Наносит 136 ед. физического урона игрокам в радиусе 3 м и создает железную гробницу. Эту способность дарует заржавевший железный тотем.
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- Стрела ледяной бури – Поражает цель морозным разрядом, наносящим 8210 ед. урона от магии льда.
- Ядовитая буря – Вызывает мощную ядовитую бурю, которая наносит 103 ед. урона от сил природы игрокам в радиусе 9 м раз в 2 сек., а также периодически создает ядовитые торнадо. Буря перемещается и длится . Эту способность дарует тотем ядовитого тумана.
  - Ядовитый торнадо – Наносит 103 ед. урона от сил природы игрокам в радиусе 5 м раз в 1 сек. и подбрасывает их в воздух.
- Мерзкий гейзер – Заклинатель создает поток мерзкой воды, наносящий 107 ед. урона от сил природы всем игрокам в радиусе 3.5 м раз в 0.5 сек. в течение . При каждом всплеске создается мерзкая слизь. Эту способность дарует тотем мерзкого потока.
  - Мерзкая слизь – Мерзкая слизь покрыта мерзкой грязью.
    Мерзкая грязь – Наносит 1990 ед. урона от сил природы игрокам в радиусе 3 м раз в 1 сек.
- Падающий пепел – Создает ядро тлеющего пепла, которое падает на землю через 15 сек. Наносит 2633 ед. урона от огня игрокам в радиусе 17 м, а затем 6220 ед. урона от огня всем игрокам при падении. Эту способность дарует пепельный тотем.
- Железная тюрьма – Помещает игрока в железную тюрьму, которая медленно удушает его, нанося физический урон в объеме 100% от максимального запаса здоровья спустя 1 min. Эту способность дарует заржавевший железный тотем.

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