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Comment by Rankkor

Whelp, this requires us to duel saurfang. Just surviving this thing should be a feat of strength.

Comment by flamalam

How do you acquire the quest?

Comment by Ihunger

Do I start this quest by talking to Saurfang? Or?
If so, where exactly is Saurfang?

Comment by 1698326

Does anyone have any information about where the hell Saurfang is ?

Comment by bigfoot1291

In the fury artifact quest, you fly with Saurfang to the broken shores, where he is hit by AA and crash lands. His fate is unknown. An educated guess is that this quest will involve finding him, which is probably not available yet.

Comment by 1699180

okay so reading more about it, IT IS given by Saurfang.
like the steps say FIND the warrior with the axe, speak with Saurfang then you go to your order hall and speak with Helgar that will tell you about forging and ask you to get Saurfang's help after dueling him you get the axe skin.
I'm gonna assume that he is NOT in Broken Shore its to obvious and already ran all around and found nothing but skull level adds and the Ebon Hold.
I list 3 spots in Broken Isle.
1.Stormheim South by the shore.
2.Somewhere in Suramar
3. Azune by the Sea giant shore.

Reason for searching from the shore up is that remembering in the warrior quest that he got shut down I'm assuming he swam or floated somewhere close to water.

Comment by krasecz

Well guys its about greatest warrior with axe that ever lived. And as long as I remember Saurfang said that was Broxigar and he had his legendary axe. But it also mentions the warrior we know so it might be Saurfang.
How about its Brox spirit?

Comment by RaccoonWarrior

I don't think this hidden artifact is accessible before we get access to the Emerald Nightmare. I think many have searched the areas around the Broken Shore and the Eye of Azshara for reasons other than this artifact and nothing of interest has popped up besides the Kosumuth orbs.

Now here is my theory:
Spoilers ahead

Varok Saurfang is M.I.A and not faction neutral so I turned to Broxigar Saurfang. He died at the well of eternity and I have tried to search for him in the old Well of Eternity instance as well with no success. Now Dranosh is quite unlikely, especially since the quest tells us to find our warrior on the Broken Isles.

Thus the greatest warrior with the axe will be Thura. Her model has recently been added to the game. Thura SAURFANG wields the Axe of Cenarius, which was previously wielded by Broxigar Saurfang and will play a major role in defeating Xavius in the Emerald Nightmare.

If you want to know more details about this, it's all in the Stormrage book and I can't post links with this new account but if you look up Thura and the Axe of Cenarius on the WoW wiki you will find that it seems to allign perfectly. The axe was as an extension to Broxigar's arm as he so described. He killed many demons with it in the Twisting Nether and even put a dent in Sargeras. Unless his spirit shows up to help us forge the weapon I think Thura will be the Saurfang we will be looking for. Also, the Axe of Cenarius was considered to be the Arms artifact weapon, but it didn't make the final cut since it was to 'nature-ish'.

Comment by KoxaH

I have an idea where "warrior with the axe" may be. Its in our fcking class hall! So there is this valarjar, who is spawning only when the battle for the weekly chest at Warriors Arena begins. He got 2hnd axe and 25million hp.Hargal the Bladestormer
No data about this guy whatsoever, but tell you what, he is unfriendly to you, but you cant attack him, i tried to taunt him, duel emotes ,e.t.c. -didnt work. Also, if you loot Warriors weekly chest there is a chance to get this Hargal's Favorite Trinket .Tried with that trinket do the stuff, i wrote above- no answer from him. Can someone confirm that he is not part of the other quests? I did the whole campaign as Arms , maybe i missed something. Another idea where to get Arcanite Bladebreaker is maybe to find ghost of Grom Hellscream, since undead model of him were added in Legion. Thats all i have to say, sorry for my English.

Comment by det23

Everybody's focusing on where to find Saurfang and which Saurfang to find but what if we're focusing on the wrong part of the quest and its description text?

The quest text starts with: "To take the form of an axe, we will need an example to draw from" - this suggests to me that this is a follow up, that we have brought something to the questgiver and they are suggesting turning it into an axe. What if we should be looking for a chunk of arcanite, or similar, that when obtained starts a quest to presumably take back to the order hall's weaponsmith and THEN go out in search of Saurfang to get inspiration and knowledge of axe-wielding to then craft our own?

Following this line of thinking, where would we begin looking for something like this? A vendor, a drop? Have any secret appearances involved going to old zones, since arcanite is from vanilla (though crafted, admittedly)? Any ideas?

Though, admittedly there's a thought in the back of my mind that it may end up just being something that is triggered from the artifact research.

Comment by Stygianite

Well so long as he doesn't use Cleave, we'll be ok.....I hope.....

Comment by Gawwad

A ghostly Grommash Hellscream was added to the game in 7.0.1. From early Warcraft Grom was the greatest axe wielding warrior with Gorehowl. The location of this NPC is unknown too though.

Comment by Panos2323

Now in Orgrimmar, Varok Saurfang commanded the city's defenses. Following the Battle for the Broken Shore Varok barred the entrance to Grommash Hold to a select few, and allowed the adventure entry to see the dying Vol'jin. Following Vol'jin's death, Varok is present as his funeral ceremony at the Dranosh'ar Blockade. With Vol'jin's dead and Sylvanas Windrunner taking the mantle of Warchief, Varok can now be found inside Grommash Hold in Orgrimmar presiding over the city.Varok also personally leads the defense of the Northern Barrens during the Legion Invasion event from the Crossroads.

Varok later travels to Broken Shore with a warrior adventurer, believing that he needs to regain his valor after the disastrous battle on the island. Unfortunately, he gets shot by a fel cannon mid-air, asking the adventurer to proceed and make them pay. Helgar later sends the warrior adventurer to find Varok and duel him on the Broken Shore as he is believed to be the greatest axe wielder on Azeroth and could be an inspiration to forge .

So far there has been no sign from Helgar's interests considering the questline and the hidden appearance. There also has been none to have reached the 54level artifact cap considering AP and its scaling. My personal guess is that as I and many fellow warrios hope we shall be able to obtain the quest and the awesome appearance by progressing along with our Arms spec. There will certainly be a way to unlock it and it won't be long before we know it.

Comment by 1649694

on PTR a guy who resets ur artifact traits gives this quest. he doesnt have one for me on LIVE tho. (i copied my live char to PTR and could take this quest)

Comment by 1649694

just to clarify, i cant get this quest on my other live copies, maybe coz they are different now from that one that have this quest available, maybe coz it was random, i have no idea, but this char is underplayed in all terms
so it means that either i got it randomly, or i triggered something on that only copy after already being on ptr. and pretty much all i did was duel and resetting traits
feel free to ask anything, but i promise you i have nothing special in that char that finished this quest, AK lvl 3, 15 traits, low rep coz i only finished storylines and like 50 WQ's
something would make sense, if i could get it again on later copies of my live char, but i cant, so take this into consideration when guess what made it available for only 1 copy but not for later better ones (coz i was playing my live char after i copied that char that could take this quest)

Comment by Aztaroh

Just tested on Live server, by resetting my artifact traits does not trigger this quest, so 39000 AP of mine just blown for nothing, but it is good to figure it out that this may not be the way to have the quest triggered for future references.

Just in case, I waited until my AK to reach Lv5, which helped me getting the Prot hidden skin, dont know yet if even higher AK lvl is required to trigger this quest

Anyway, the way of acquiring this quest remains unknown, hopefully other fellow warriors can shed more lights on this.

Comment by Grailer

kickbot.

do you have many of the tier sets complete ? i have seen some stands in the class hall where completed tier sets are showcased on each side of the entrance to the battle arena.

does someone think this may have anything to do with the quest trigger ?

Comment by ommNiCruiser

Just a thought...

At the end of War of the Ancients Thrall is presented with Brox's axe by Krasus, maybe he has some involvement with acquiring the quest?

Comment by Remitheus

Is it possible that what were looking for to trigger it is caused by Strom' kars ability, Warbreaker?

Comment by TheAvath

Note that it does not say you have to win against Saurfang, perhaps you have to 'lose' to him proving that the axe is better than blade, question is which version of him since he is in multiple places throughout the game.

Comment by Vinscent

"To take the form of an axe..." this part is the key for me. Whatever trigger causes this quest, it has to motivate us and/or Helgar to want to make our artifact an axe... Otherwise he's just "Hey Battlelord, to make your weapon an axe..." which is more than a little random.

Comment by darkpathfinder

http://imgur.com/a/6pEca
what do you think 'bout 1st and 3rd screenshots guys?found flyer with AR outside of BRH on the arena,where's pvp local quest

Comment by kevinhuss

So, people are so worried about finding Saurfang and which version of him to find that they are losing focus on how to trigger the quest.
The first step as shown by some of you is to trigger the quest with Helgar, from that on Saurfang will be waiting for you in Dalaran's flight platform, finding Saurfang is no the main objective here.

Comment by Senzibell

i can confirm this is in the game. saw a warrior whit it in skyhold today, i tried asking him ONCE where he got it but didnt get any answer so i didnt ask again! got a screenshot of him whit the axe tho. not sure how to post it!

Comment by Aztaroh

So after almost another two weeks of exploring, still no luck finding the way that triggers this quest, but I have some new understandings about this quest, summarized as below:

1. It's simply "A" >> "B", we find A (the trigger), we nail B (the appearance), this is really not that story-rich, or heavily lore-related, just like all other hidden appearances

2. Certain Artifact Knowledge Lv is required, most likely Lv5, but this is not the only requirement, since I have Lv8 now and still haven't triggered the quest

3. Most likely reputation linked, since The Mastersmith is faction-based NPC; I am about 1000 rep away from Exalted, if any warrior out there who has already earned Exalted with Valajar, please let me know if this is the case

4. The original Arcanite Reaper may have nothing to do with this quest, I have tried transmog, Battlemaster glyph, none seems to be the trigger (Yeah, I spent two days farming the recipe, no mater how crazy the theory sounds, I am willing to test it out)

5. Unlikely to be a Dungeon/Boss drop, since there is Fury

6. It is settled that the "Saurfang" is our beloved High Warlord (refer to screenshot from PTR)

7. To my personal best knowledge, no one seems to have acquired this appearance so far, correct me if I am wrong; so we need to keep looking

Comment by Stepge

Anyone Exalted with Valarjar faction and has AK 5 or higher?

Comment by Millimille

Alright so after some research and scouting, I'm pretty sure the trigger is from the achivement; You Used to Scrawl Me In Your Fel Tome
I haven't done it myself yet, but any warr who've done it could you confirm this by speccing arms and go to Helger at the forge and see if you're able to recieve the quest? There might be more triggers to it, but every warr I've seen with the appearence have done this achivement. And recieved the appearence shortly after, to my understanding.
Please correct me or confirm me that I'm wrong or right. Best of luck too you all!
EDIT: Confirmed to NOT be the trigger, thanks for your help though all of you!

Comment by Eacany

(Sorry for my English)
Hi everyone , I have 1 theory which one is very interesting . I was thinking about trigger and I have 1 interesting moment. So our hidden appearance is BLADEbreaker , horde have clan which one is named as Burning Blade clan (we can find it at Draenor Nagrand) as I remember there was duel in arena, so maybe we need to find something in their camp in Draenor (Nagrand) . Thanks for reading this text , I hope we will find trigger if we will work together ))

Comment by Novikmet

This is a huge shot in the dark but it might have to do wiht something from blackrock spires. Just an idea...

Comment by Stepge

Has anyone experience with this item?:
Axe, Blade and Fist

Comment by TwistedPhayte

HOW TO GET THIS ARTIFACT SKIN: Wait. It's tied to a spawn timer inside the Oder Hall itself and it appears to just take some time to roll around. To date, it's been up every single day since the release of patch 7.1 and requires no artifact knowledge. It may require an internal trigger that we're not privy to, but, we've seen people as low as 107 get the hidden appearance. Just check with Helgar each day and see if he has something to say to you!

-Once you have the quest, leap down to Dalaran and High Overlord Saurfang will be waiting there for you. Speak to him then return to Skyhold.
-From there, speak to Helgar again and he'll send you over to the Ring of Trials (Directly across the Order Hall from Helgar)
-Hop in to the ring (+10 cool points if you use Heroic Leap) and High Overlord Saurfang will spawn to duel you
-After you defeat Saurfang walk off the edge of the ring to have a Valkyr take you out.
-Return to Helgar, follow the dialogue and you'll have a shiny new Axe!

********"And so it ends, not with a bang, but with a whimper." Thanks to everyone for their effort and time on hunting for this thing and all the great speculations! Maybe the next hidden appearance will be a little more lore and fun scavenger hunt styled. There were some great theories thrown around that I think everyone would have liked to turn out. *********

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20750594885#post-1 -An official Blue post discussing hidden appearances.

Comment by Axerunner

Maybe it's a shot in the dark but someone tried to talk to the smitters with shadowmourne equipped ?

Comment by Cozzer

Has anyone tried getting a high Glory Kill count before trying to talk to him? I'm trying to do it but I only have one other account I can farm with and the death cd is 2minutes, same with the glory kill buff.
The glory kill count is from the arena in Skyhold.

Edit:
Nvm you lose the buff once you leave the arena.

Comment by robin137

i just got 10 AK and unlocked some part of the lore it says storm'kar has been mad by arathi blacksmiths (the pvp BG arathi basin might be something)

Comment by hamlife

Could it be something simple as just "killing" saurfang in orgrimmar to trigger something. so maybe we see the power he has with an axe, then we go back to the blacksmith and ask if there is a stronger wep and he'll be like "yeah didnt you see how saurfang wooped your ass in orgrimmar with an axe?" just a theory though.

Orgrimmar Offensive

Comment by Eunn

In the Alliance warrior starting quest it's Dannath that takes you to the Broken Shore where you go and fight the Pit Lord. Perhaps he is involveD?

Comment by 1697182

Ok. So, Im AK 10 AP 19. Im search the Broken Isle. Made my way around The entirty of the main isle. looking for signs of Saurfang. There is also Trollbane to think about, though he is now a Death Knight follower. His Tomb showed no signs of link. I will be scouring BRH in each difficulty. If you guys can link me any lore. of Strom'kar I would appreciate it.

Comment by Hasta1337

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/terokkar/Wasp/advanced

Comment by hurtz2live

Looks like Tuesday we will be able to finally get this.

Seems like a Blizzard "oops we forgot to turn this on", instead of the exciting search it was playing out to be...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2066048-Has-anybody-unlocked-the-The-Arcanite-Bladebreaker/page27

Well nevermind.... :(

Comment by 1225993

So i contacted a GM about if the secret of the axes quest to see if it was bugged,active,Or if it was delayed till 7.1 and the gm replyed that the quest IS active and IS available now however it could not give any hints (sadly)
but i felt it important to note that blizz confirmed its active.
the game master was Clarveesia

Comment by Temperdstorm

Still not active like it was on PTR

Comment by Eindride

Ok, I don't know if this has anything to do with this Quest. But yesterday, when I entered the Black Rook Hold Arena, for the Black Rook Rumble (World Quest), I saw the corpse of John Swifty laying on the ground. And that made me think about the chance of this famous warrior, wielding a great renowned axe, to be a known warrior player. I realize how far out this sounds, but I thought it might be worth mentioning. What if the NPC we're looking for is a copy/remake of someone famous, who quit WoW many years ago. And that his/hers NPC is sitting around somewhere in-game, waiting for us to find him/her. Maybe this player had a favorite spot, where him/her would hang out? I know for a fact that allot of players, back in the Vanilla days, had "their" spot, somewhere in Azeroth. Like that rogue who always were stealthed in Stranglethorn Vale, killing those who walked by. I can't remember his name, but some of you know whom I'm talking about.

Anyways.. just wanted to mention it. Since we might be looking at this from the wrong perspective. Maybe this "clue" is talking about a actual living person, not some Warcraft lore character, but an actual person who used to play?

It's very far out, but like I said; it might be worth mentioning.

Take care all, and good luck!

Comment by sthx

Patch 7.1 just hit and how to pop up the quest remains a secret... At least the name of the quest is working as intended.

But seriously, I think the recent ptr feedbacks is positive towards our search. Now I believe the blacksmith is loafing around and suddenly pops out with the 3 minute aura. And it is heavy RNG.

Edit: Maybe in ptr the aura had been increased to players actually test the quest.
But if this theory is right, the way to acquire the quest is standing still next to Halgar, wich is a very fail design.

Comment by JonQuy

When i write it " /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffffff00\124Hquest:43643:-1\124h\124h\124r")" it works... so ? I have just to found the famous warrior ?

Comment by Vrayth

Well i got one of the skins, i equipped my prot hidden artifact and compleated 100 dungeons with it and i got the axe, so thats one way to do it (the more orange version)

/regards from Vrayth

Comment by Rorac

Guys, this is an idle thought, but what if we're approaching this from the wrong direction by looking for lore characters? Maybe we should be thinking about sheer infamy - is there a Kiljoy reference somewhere in game?

Edit: Arcanite Bladebreaker, got. Honestly have no idea what I would've done to trigger it, which makes me think it's random. I ran Emerald Nightmare and did one of Brann Bronzebeard's archaeology quests last night, but nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I'm AK 11 currently.

Comment by Kacen

I was just able to get my Live server side...

I am currently AP 25
AK 11

I have did have arcanite reaper transmog(not sure that it helped)
I did have the Arena of glory in my class order hall selected.

I logged into the game last night and when and spoke with Helgar and he had no quest for me.
I logged in today (10-30-16) and saw the start questline. I did not change or complete any other quest or challenges.

The quest does follow the same path as PR. You talk to Helgar then you go down to darlan and talk to saurfang (which is by around the flight point), you duel Saurfang and beat him and then he meets you at Helgar. Helgar examines Saurfang's Axe.

Once you compete the quest he give you an achievement (Hidden Potental)

Comment by DG2020

I got this quest today on my Warrior alt. (AP 18 and AK 9 at the time)
I didn't even do anything special. I just ran up to the forge to upgrade my artifact and got a special dialogue from Master Smith Helgar. After speaking to him, he then gave me a short quest chain to talk to and duel Saurfang in the Arena of Glory.
Saurfang was a chump. I just popped Warbreaker and Battle Cry then Bladestormed him into submission.
I have no idea what triggered it. I'm guessing it's just RNG like the hidden prot artifact appearance.

Comment by Jorue

Just did this quest on Live not two minutes ago. It's actually a very simple quest once it triggers. Helgar will speak to you about wondering if there is an axe to match your sword. Talk to him, and click through the dialogue options. Once you've done that, you will get the quest. After that, leap down to Dalaran, and Saurfang is standing on Krasus' Landing. Speak through the dialogue with him, and he will tell you to talk to Helgar. Leap back up to Skyhold, talk to Helgar. After that, head to the Ring of Trials, and you'll duel Saurfang. He's sadly very easy to beat (I was at 850 ilevel, with one golden trait in arms and wooped him). After that, turn in the quest to Helgar and you'll get your axe.

Now, my only suspicion as to what triggered this was, the night before, I received a legendary from Mythic Plus. The Mythics we did were Maw of Souls 2 and 3, and Halls of Valor 2. I got the Legendary from Maw 2. The next day I went to the forge, and Helgar spoke to me.

That's the best I have as to what triggered this. For the record, I was not in Arms spec or loot specialization, and I got the legendary for Fury. So that certainly has nothing to do with it. I had Artifact Knowledge 6, for the record.

Hope this helps somewhat.

Comment by Azkbullbear

Unlocked this today once i reached honored 6000/12000 with Valarjar , also reached 100k AP at same time and have artifact knowledge of 10.

Comment by byne

Just got this on my 100 warrior who has done no questing in the Broken Isles and hasnt even chosen a zone. I'm thinking owning the artifact is the only requirement.

Comment by oldgrizzly

31/10/2016

Finally available after restart. Dunno if blizzard fix or what.

AK 12

Just finished quest "The Nameless King" and chat option was available with Helgar.

About time!

Comment by CeoraWar

I just made this account so I can't post links but just got it this morning at AK12 and posted a small walkthrough on the hidden artifact reddit page under the same username. Have fun all and hope it helps.

Comment by ZeeMadHatter

ok just did this simply talk to the guy next to the forge. had AK 8 at the time but not sure on this short chain to dal and back duel was easy as fury with 840ish ilvl

Comment by ZeeMadHatter

ok just did this simply talk to the guy next to the forge. had AK 8 at the time but not sure on this short chain to dal and back duel was easy as fury with 840ish ilvl

Comment by deathdemons

so i think i just figured out what the trigger is...
i just did the kara attunement and went to dal with tome and watched the cutscene.
after that i was able to get the quest line from helgar for the hidden skin.
then port to dal and saurfang was on the flight pad in dal. all in all took me about 2 minutes to get the hidden skin.

Hope this helps!

Comment by darthraptorx

ELLO to all, i do not know what i did but i unlocked the quest i just picked up my 12th artifact knowledge lvl and doom! it was there when i swaped to arms. i do not know what i did wether i waited or not offered all the info i am aware of. i hope this helps sorry i do not have any further info server llane toon is raptorx blood elf warrior

Comment by Purgatorywolf

From MMO Champion:

Arms Warrior Hidden Artifact Appearance
The Arms Warrior hidden artifact appearance has been hotfixed in for US servers.

Talk to Master Smith Helgar in the Warrior Order Hall to start Secrets of the Axes
Talk to High Overlord Saurfang in Dalaran and then return to Master Smith Helgar.
Go and duel High Overlord Saurfang in the Warrior Order Hall.
Return to Master Smith Helgar and claim The Arcanite Bladebreaker

Comment by cowadice

I have just gotten the quest. http://imgur.com/a/cRWLN I checked Helgar yesterday and he had nothing. Since then I have gotten my 25th artifact level, become exalted with the nightfallen and completed all available quests for them, thats good suramaritan and the first set of quests from 7.1. However I'm sure other people have already done these things and had no luck so it seems like it might just be a random chance each day like the prot one.
Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/caelestrasz/Seraithe/simple

Comment by Hydrodensity

Just finished this short little chain today.

I dont know what triggered the quest showing up

I did just reach lvl 26 for the weapon.
and am at 11 research notes. dont know if this is of any relevance.
the quest is picked up from Master Smith Helgar in your class hall next to the forge.

Saurfang appeared for me right infront of the Dalaran pillar of light after porting there.

after talking to him go back up to skyhold and talk to the smith again.

Then you get to duel saurfang in the circle of glory.
then return to the smith once again and you're done

Comment by Grinr

To start this quest, speak with master smith helgar while in arms spec. He will comment on how he wishes there was an axe equal to that of Strom'kar. He will then ask you to find an axe wielding warrior as inspiration.

Comment by 765459

JUST GOT THIS TODAY!

Character Kruwos-Mal'Ganis

I'm AK 11 and 17 points in. Ok. So I logged in. I was already in Skyhold and remembering that there is a hidden buff involved with attaining the quest I decided on the off chance to see helgar. As I approached him I didn't see an immediate quests so I figured well all already by the forge guess I'll just interact with it. As I did I noticed Helgar say how I have such a nice sword and if there is an axe. I immediately exited the forge talked to helgar and got it.

After I got it I said so in general chat to see if anyone else could get it and a guy whispered me how I did and I told him. He ran up to helgar and got it too. Coincidentally this guy was a guildie of mine.

I took pics of it.

http://imgur.com/uMRnRPE

http://imgur.com/nxSktD5

http://imgur.com/V4MgDeq

Reading another commentor who got it, I too completed my Suramar story line yesterday and got pathfinder one. I also noticed that Helgar says the trigger text whenever I approach him even though I have the quest but havn't finished it yet.

Comment by Rawm

Okay guys. I literally JUST got this quest. I was looking into how to get it and couldn't find anything, went to my Order Hall, and talked to what's his face by the forge and BOOM he had the quest.

So let me explain what I have done recently.
My artifact knowledge is at level 11. (My guess is 10 is necessary)
I was looking into getting my Prot appearance (Was in Prot spec when I got the quest. Don't know if it's relevant or not.)
I read the tablet in front of the Artifact Research guy, The big tablet in the center. I clicked next page over and over until I reached the end. Went to the guy by my forge, and clicked on him (On accident actually)
And a dialogue popped up, Something about an axe that could be just as good as the sword. Then it allows you to ask about an axe and THEN the quest pops up. He didn't have the Question mark initially.

I don't know what other criteria I may have met.
I think you just need to have AK10 and then read the tablet. Actually read it though. Go through all the pages. Don't just open it and close it.

That's what I know guys. I hope this helps you all! Let me know if it works for you guys!

Comment by 1225993

i got mine on live today as of 10/30
my artifact research level is 11 and my weapons level 24 and he just said hey nice sword what if it was a axe (basicly what he said). i did nothing but log on talk to him and thats it.

my theory is its been bugged sense day one and they didnt care to fix it

Comment by Chrizx

I just picked this quest up on my warrior, who is currently lvl 108....

Comment by solitha

This quest is why I dislike hidden mechanics. So many theories, when it was all ~~a bug~~ "too conservative" RNG.

There is only 1 requirement to get this quest: Wield Strom'kar.

There is no level requirement, no AK requirement, no reps, nothing. People have begun to get it because the ~~bug's been fixed~~ RNG's been raised, and it's now available more often.

So what do you do?
1. (edited) Walk up to Helgar, the large gentleman next to the artifact forge. He may comment on how cool it would be if there was a different weapon as good as Strom'kar. He then has a dialogue about it. After the chat, he will offer this quest. Whether or not he starts this is a random chance, region-wide, each day.

2. Jump down to Dalaran. Saurfang is right there next to the jump up. Talk to him, and he agrees to meet you to test your mettle.

3. Jump back up to the class hall and speak again to Helgar, who agrees to arrange a match and directs you to the PvP ring.

4. Go to the PvP ring. You'll phase, and Saurfang will arrive. At about 50% he surrenders to your leet skillz.

5. Jump out of the ring (you'll be saved from the fall) and run back to the forge. You'll see a dialogue between Helgar and Saurfang. Afterwards, turn in the quest, and you'll receive The Arcanite Bladebreaker, a consumable.

6. Consume said consumable. Your Strom'kar now has an axe appearance option, and you're done.

UPDATE EDIT: Not quite the whole thing. It's also RNG whether the quest will start that day.

For starters, we’ve seen some rumblings around the community that the appearance for Arms Warriors was “hotfixed in.” This is not the case. The quest for that particular appearance has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day. Our initial setting for that chance ended up being too conservative (and was increased in Patch 7.1), but the chance has been there every day since the expansion launched.

Blue source.

Comment by WarlordES

Has anyone got it on EU servers? I have read all comments of you guys who have it but i just go to Helgar and he says de same damn s*** as always. Actually 12AK, 28 traits and exalted with every faction so I just don't know if it's been fixed in US servers and not in EU

Comment by Enderverse

R.I.P. these commenters and all their theories.

Comment by TheDru

It may be a daily chance like the protection one, after certain artifact power walk up to helgar.

side note: saurfang was in dalaran for me, not sure if thats the norm but yeah.

Comment by Celebrok

Just got the arms hidden artifact 20 minutes ago, I am Artifact knowledge 11, i have NOT refunded my traits. No reason to submit to such superstition. Item level 866. Cleared heroic Xavius. Again tonight, before going to my order hall and seeing the quest trigger. Hope this helps.

Comment by Warriorway

I got it today 31th october. Just talked to Helgar and he had a second choice.

After chating you must seek saurfang in Dalaran and come back to Helgar. Then you duel Saurfang and talk him again.

Finally helgar gives you an item to unlock the axe.

Blizzard said about the quest, it "has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day".
Here is the post: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20750594885

Comment by Semajus

Just got my first legendary, and went back to the forge in the order hall because I also needed to select my next trait, and when i got there, Master Smith Helgar said "Your sword is incredible, I wonder if there is and axe to match it". I then clicked on, and there was a dialogue option inquiring about the axe, and this leads to him unlocking the quest. Not sure if getting the legendary was what prompted this, but thats the only thing thats different from when I last went to the forge.

And Saurfang is in Dalaran, right in front of you when you jump down from the order hall

Comment by Sav1993

I logged in this morning, didn't notice anything weird but when I strolled by the forge-master, he said that line about the axe then I went on to do the quest line. Surfang isn't hard at all. I was able to wipe him before shock-wave even finished, barely got a hit on me and it was light damage if any.

Hope the rest of you get this soon! Sorry I have nothing else to say about it.

Comment by Snowtouch

~~110 arms Warrior main spec, 12AK, 28 traits in warbreaker, guy just won't comment on my weapon, I guess its another case of "Working as intended"~~

confirmed its a daily now.

Comment by termight

Seems random. 110, AK Knowledge 12. I've been maining fury so I only have 10 traits on arms. The quest is unavailable to me.

Comment by Quikz

Hey guys, I don't know if ive missed something but a GM replied to me:

Hi there *****,

Thanks for getting back to us about this!

I'm afraid that we're not able to assist with anything related to the hidden artifact quests, as these are intended to be secret, and discovered by each player. The only thing I can confirm is that this is indeed working correctly :)

My theory is that there is a requirement for this artifact, there is no bug like people saying so we still need to come up with the solution/mystery.

Comment by PredatorZero1208

It was officially confirmed in a blue post that the quest has a random chance each day to spawn for each region.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20750594885

Comment by Mmi257ia

Ooookay, Blizzards now said how to obtain hidden appearance:
"We’d like to take a moment to dispel some rumors and give some insight into certain “hidden” Artifact Appearances, as well as some general notes on how this system (and similar systems) has worked out so far in Legion.

For starters, we’ve seen some rumblings around the community that the appearance for Arms Warriors was “hotfixed in.” This is not the case. The quest for that particular appearance has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day. Our initial setting for that chance ended up being too conservative (and was increased in Patch 7.1), but the chance has been there every day since the expansion launched.

Many of you have also been asking about the hidden appearance for Frost Death Knights. We’ve been trying to avoid giving out too much in the way of spoilers for these, but as it’s now the last one to be discovered, we figured we might as well give you guys a hint. This appearance is tied to a particular world boss, which hasn’t spawned yet. Once that boss is available, we expect the appearance to be found pretty quickly.

We’ve learned a lot of important lessons about hidden content and these sorts of varied and discoverable unlocks over the course of Legion development. Some of our efforts were clearly far more successful than others. We’re going to take these lessons to heart and apply them going forward. Additionally, we’re working on a few tweaks to how the hidden artifact appearances are acquired, which will be released in a future patch, with the goal of reducing the frustration that can come from trying to chase down some of the more elusive ones."

Another random for warriors, yeah!

Comment by Wonderchild

Saw a fresh 110 with the axe running through Highmountain. He claimed to have gotten it at level 1 of artifact research while being at character level 107 so hopefully that can be a clue towards the requirements for the quest to appear!

Comment by plethorex

I was able to receive the quest today on Cenarius-US, got to the fight with Saurfang only to find out that he hits for incredible amounts and has a laughably enormous amount of HP. I wasn't able to damage him past 90%, a group of other Warriors were congregated at the Arena of Glory also unable to beat him.

Comment by Hawkeye1836

Just got this today, and Saurfang can be intimidating.
4 tips:
1) Saurfang's abilities, besides having a ton of health and a hard hitting auto-attack, are a bladestorm, a frontal cone knock back, and a fear.
The bladestorm is very hard to run from and does considerable damage, so stun him if you can (Storm Bolt).
The knock back doesn't deal a lot of damage, but can mess up your rotation/cd's, or even knock you off the platform, resetting the duel. But, he can't move while casting it, so just run to the side/behind and he'll miss.
The fear is easy: either interrupt it or use Berserker Rage.

2) You don't have to get him to 0 hp, just... ok, I didn't notice the exact percentage, maybe 50%? This is important because not only do you want your talents to focus on single-target damage/survival, but also keep in mind that there will be no execute phase, or adds to proc Victory Rush.

3) If you die in the arena, you get a 2 min debuff that prevents you from re-entering. BUT, if you jump off (or get knocked off), the fight just resets! So if you're about to die, jump off.

4) YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN ARMS SPEC FOR THE DUEL!
I was having trouble, and thought "well, my Fury artifact has more AP/relics, will it let me use that?" AND IT DOES. This was helpful not only because I had better stats, but Bloodthirst and Enraged Regeneration mean you can actually recover hp during the fight! Besides the initial proc for the quest, I don't know what you need to be in Arms for, but certainly not the fight.

Of course, all this is assuming that Bliz doesn't hotfix anything… and as long as Saurfang doesn't decide to get serious and cleave Skyhold in half…

Comment by Feliciamarie

Got this on my level 100 arms warrior with 0 AK.

Comment by 230639

This triggered for me today, AK 12 but it apparently doesn't matter. Visited the class hall as Protection and Helgar struck a conversation without having to respec to Arms. Dueling Saurfang as Protection is simple - tank and spank, never go below 90% health. Only had to respec to Arms when trying to use the reward item itself.

Also, hidden artifact alternative color progress seems to be shared across all specs. Immediately after unlocking this one I could already switch to the PVP color (1000 kills) and completing a world quest took me from 112/200 to 113/200 (with all previous WQs completed as Protection). Here's the script again for checking your hidden artifact alternative color progress:

/run local _,_,_,a, b = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11152,1) local _,_,_,c, d = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11153,1) local _,_,_,e, f = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11154,1) print("Dungeons: "..a.."/"..b) print("WQs: "..c.."/"..d) print("Kills: "..e.."/"..f)

Comment by xKraydos

Just got this on Draenor EU. The time is nigh, boys. (AK 12 but don't think that matters).

Comment by 230639

Just picked this up on a level 100 alt warrior, AK 0 (naturally).

Another level 100 alt warrior who hasn't yet acquired the artifact is unable to pick the quest up.

Comment by darkrunedk

I got this today. What I did was getting all the artifacts available to the Warrior class (needed the tank spec artifact for quite some time). I don't know the requirement when looking at AK, as I have about 14 or so (seems a little bit high, if that's the case).

After that I waited 3 days, checking if I was able to speak with Master Smith Helgar (at the artifact forge). After I was able to speak with him using another dialogue I did that until it ended with giving Secrets of the Axes.

After getting the quest you should return to Krasus Landing in Dalaran, and speak with Saurfang. After that return to Master Smith Helgar again, and he'll ask you to duel Saurfang in the Halls of Valor arena (the opposite room from the artifact forge).

In the arena room jump to the center platform. Don't do like me waiting for someone to appear or talk to the NPCs around the arena, as they won't help you get over to the platform (one of them might send you to the Proving Grounds).

After that fight him until he's aboout 50%-51% life and you will complete the duel part of the quest. Not return to Master Smith Helgar one final time and talk to Saurfang, who will be there as well. After a little dialogue you will be able to complete the quest and receive the hidden artifact skin.

Hope this helps.

Comment by BerettaNEWarrior

How I beat Saurfang as Arms:

Second Wind.

So the key is this: trigger Second Wind by chaining a Shockwave or Storm Bolt off things like his Earthshatter Shockwave. Let him cast about 3/4's of it, interrupt, and back off to bandage to supplement Second Wind.

(As it turns out Saurfang didn't spec into Trauma or Rend, so you're not going to end up with a DoT from his hits.)

This also works if you Pummel him instead during his Shout and immediately stun. You need 5 seconds for Second Wind to kick in; theoretically you could also extend your recovery time by activating Die By The Sword just as the stun is wearing off and recover over 60% of your hp.

Saurfang is also vulnerable to Intimidating Shout though I would have bet my transmogs on the iconic Horde Warrior raging through it. So again wait for a long cast, yell him into submission like Mrs. Saurfang, back off and bandage.

Beyond that Leap away from Bladestorm (or Die By The Sword if necessary) and pace yourself. Don't get caught in any of his big hits and he'll concede at 50% hp.

Remember your Mastery ability is Tactician; out think this hero instead of trying to overwhelm him. Patience and timing are the keys to the way of Arms, leave the raving and frothing for the Path of Fury.

Comment by Shada

Ah, the delicious irony of completing the hidden Arms artifact appearance quest.

As Protection.

Don't deny it, you know you all did!

Comment by tazeel

If you struggle with Saurfang, remmeber that you need to have Strom'kar just to trigger the quest. Go prot to fight him and you can laugh of his autoattacks.

Comment by Gamer978

Nothing today for arms on Draenor-EU. It's really sad how they throw the worst (how to obtain) *!@# on Warriors with the artifact's globally. Take for instance that the order hall class campaing for Warrior takes as twice much time than the rest of the classes. :)

Comment by Mmmmhash

I'm AK 14

I just got this quest today.

I've been only trying to get the Prot Hidden Artifact Skin for the past month and yet for some @#$%ing reason I got the Arms Hidden Skin quest and my off spec is Fury.

What the @#$% is the game thinking.....

(I know you can get the arms quest regardless of spec)

Comment by kzzmarcel

To all those getting defeated by Saurfang: This dude hits really hard. As a level 101 warrior, I could not beat him.
The simple solution is:
- Go to the quarter master and buy the green 1h sword and shield;
- Change spec to prot;
- Enjoy your duel with Saurfang (it will take some time to win but he will not be able to get your HP lower than 85%).

Comment by 1066091

This is conditional:
You must in in Arms spec
You must have your Strom'kar, the Warbreaker equipped when you talk to Master Smith Helgar in Skyhold (at the forge) to begin the quest.

Then, go to Dalaran
Then, on to Skyhold for the rest

Comment by Xornim

So i did get the quest on lvl 106 or 107 i think but abandoned it accidently. Couldn't restart it so i thought this was a bug and wrote a ticket.

The GM told me that the requirements are
Be in Arms spec
Have the weapon equipped
Talk to Helgar
He said he couldn't tell me more specific details but that's all it needs and that the quest doesn't appear every time so I chould check once a day.
So maybe there is either a random timer or specific dates where the quest does appear.

Comment by Blackbeardswe

How to unlock each color:

1. Default color, Red
Obtained by having the arms artifact and standing near Master Smith Helgar, there is a region wide proc-chance for when this will happen. (US, EU etc. are each a region) you dont have to be in the arms spec for Helgar to trigger the dialogue you only need to have the artifact in your hands or bags, on my main i finished the quest from start to finish as fury.

2. Dungeon color, Bronze
Complete 100 dungeons of legion content while using the hidden artifact, timewalking will not work but Normal/Heroic/Mythic and Mythic+ of legion dungeons will.

3. World Quest color, Green
Complete 200 world quests.
Obtained by going out there and completing so many WQ's you'll never want to do them again.

4. PvP Color, Red (the shaft is slightly darker)
Obtained by getting 1000 honorable kills (and not only killing blows)

Out of the 3 unlockable colors, the PvP one is by far the quickest to unlock, Alterac Valley is a good one for that, it is sadly also the least impressive color, since it's so similar to the default color.

Useful scripts to keep track on the various requirements:

This first script is a bit wonky, it keeps track on WQ's and HK's no problem but not the dungeons, it shows up in the chat-frame in white text:

/run local _,_,_,a, b = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11152,1) local _,_,_,c, d = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11153,1) local _,_,_,e, f = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11154,1) print("Dungeons: "..a.."/"..b) print("WQs: "..c.."/"..d) print("Kills: "..e.."/"..f)

This second script only shows the dungeon counter, and it's much more reliable than the first one for Dungeons:

/run local a=0; local i=0; for i=1,11 do local _,_,_,x,b = GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(11152,i); a=a+x; i=i+1; if i==12 then print("Dungeons: "..a.."/"..b) end end

A tip is to put these scripts into a macro button that you can easily press by draging them to the actionbars.

Comment by Fortbubbles

Has this quest popped at all for the NA realms in the last 20 or so days?

All the latest comments surrounding it are from over 20 days ago.

Comment by Zanabest

So, it's been 40 days since the quest showed up on EU. Can we all agree that there is a problem about the RNG of this quest?

Comment by Fortbubbles

Just checked on my warrior. It's up today!

Comment by GreatBaal

Up on KhazModan (french EU serveur)... 25/12/16, Merry X-Mas =D

Comment by ShuLi

Up today 25.12.2016 on Kazzak - EU. Merry Christmass fellow warriors! REJOICE! :D

Comment by Peredhil

25.12.2016-is up on EU servers.Merry Christmas,go get it ;)

Comment by Becmar

Today, the 26th of December 2016 at around 2:53 AM, the quest finally popped up for me. I jumped to Skyhold as of my daily routine and went to the forge to check my Artifact Traits. I was in Arms spec during this, when Master Smith Helgar next to the forge began speaking. I instantly clicked on him and clicked through all of the talking, and then the quest appeared. *Note: The quest does not appear on the mini map, you will have to go next to him to make the dialogue appear*. You will then have to go to Krasus' Landing in Dalaran in the Broken Isles, where no other than Saurfang will await you *Note 2:He is standing at the edge of the platform, facing the Demon Hunter Class Order Hall and right next to the jump to the Warrior order hall*. After a little bit of talking, Saurfang challenges you to a duel. He's having around 31m hp and you will have to do dmg him a bit below 50% *Note 3: I was a 868 Arms Warrior with all traits unlocked but the final 5% extra dmg trait* and I did this with ease. He is using warrior like abilities, such as Intimidating Shout, which can easily be dispelled by Berserker Rage or any stun removing ability. After this little fight - go to the Artifact forge, where Helgar and Saurfang will have a chat. Return the quest when they are done speaking and boom, you've got your Hidden Artifact Skin!

Overview:

Stand next to Master Smith Helgar at the forge in Order Hall (Pray that he will speak to you)

Find Saurfang at Krasus' Landing in Dalaran

Return to Order Hall and go into the Combat Ring

Return to Master Smith Helgar and retrieve your hidden skin!

Comment by MarauderMax

The quest is active on US today, good luck guys.

Comment by Muraghar

Just got this at 102 on my warrior! Lowest that I've ever seen it be available.

Comment by DFFL

Active on Mal'Ganis-EU (11.01.2017) and probably EU wide (?). Go get your axe :)

Comment by DatRandomGuy

Was able to obtain this quest with a level 6 Strom'kar as a level 104. Master Smith Helgar told me how my sword is incredible and he wondered if there was an axe to match it. I spoke to him and it gave me a bit of extra dialogue (other then the refund your traits) which led to me being able to get the quest.

Comment by iH8u

Just received the quest on my warrior who before the patch 7.1.5 had AK of 4; new account so no transmogs; no achievements. But I can't kill Saurfang....he has 25 MILLION health =(

Comment by truckherder

Quest is active today 20/1/17 (on Oceanic realms at least) good luck folks!

Comment by MrRuski

Triggered for me today (25th of Feb, 2017) on Stormrage-US. Sourfang fairly easy by dodging all his abilities, am a 874 warrior main spec Fury.

Comment by Thannatos1

The quest is up today, February 24th, on US Windrunner.

I logged in close to to Helgar while in protection spec (loot spec current: protection) and had my Burning plate of the worldbreaker equipped. My artificat knowledge is 25 but from other posts I've read that doesn't seem to be relevant.

As soon as you get close to Helgar he has the chat bubble above him saying:
"Your sword is incredible, I wonder if there is an axe to match it."

I fought Saurfang in fury spec ( my main spec ) and didn't have much of a problem as long as I avoided his shockwave, however my gearscore is 869.

Note that after completing the quest and acquiring the skin you have to be in Arms spec to learn it from your bags. You will get an error that you are not in the correct spec if you aren't. Otherwise, every part of acquiring this skin is doable without being in arms spec.

Comment by Pallipwns

I can confirm that you can get this below 100, I got it at 99. Submitted a video as proof.

Comment by Frazley

Don't rely on him having a Quest Indicator. For me, I walked up to him last week on Tuesday and talked with him with no quest indicator.

Comment by HunterXY

Quest is up today April 2, 2017 on US realms.

Comment by Herrm

Quest is up today, 04.13.2017

I only just hit 110 and cannot beat him. I tried the strat a few posts down where you make use of second wind and whatnot but his auto-attacks just absolutely crush me, I don't even get him under 90% before I'm dead.

Is it a gear thing? Like I said I just hit 110, my ilvl is only 767 on this alt. :(

Comment by 1539365

Quest is up for EU Today (April 17th 2017). :)

Comment by Teenslipperz

I got the quest while in Fury spec, with an unused Arms spec.
You only have to be Arms for the actual fighting of Saurfang.

Comment by Tygett

Last time I logged into my warrior after Legion was October 2016, I don't remember completing this quest at all, yet I have unlocked the appearance when I resubbed last week. ?_?

Comment by JustPaul

quest up EU today 28/4

Comment by Solacelol

Quest is active today on US Realms 5/1/2017

Comment by 1484692

Up today for me on Stormrage-US.

Comment by Aytirios

I see people talking about needing to use the green 1h and shield for prot at 101 to beat Saurfang. I did this in arms at that level, and I only needed to kite him (but he runs faster than me!) using storm bolt and letting second wind tick off. The lowest I got was 40%, so I storm bolted him and ran to the opposite side of the ring. Right before he got to me I used die by the sword so avoid damage (yes it works on Bladestorm too) to recoup to 100% life. Intimidating shout also works if you find yourself needing a few extra seconds. Note: Saurfang's Bladestorm is interruptible with CC, unlike your own. Play smart, avoid his shockwave, and you can level with an awesome axe(Because I am a troll and a sword was simply unacceptable)! :)

Comment by mousepotatoe

Just received this quest today, Friday May 26, 2017 at ~11:15pm.

I started off Arms when I started Legion, and just hit 102 tonight and collected the other weapons.

I was wielding the Fury artifacts when I passed Helgar, and he commented on my weapon and gave the quest.

Defeated Saurfang as Fury, utilizing Piercing Howl to slow down whirlwind pursuit, intimidating shout (seemed to be able to beat on him for entire fear), and heroic leap to get distance and bump Bloodthirst heals with Furious Charge talent.

TL;DR - Level 102, got quest prompt in Fury, defeat Saurfang as Fury, then completed.

Comment by Zygos

So, I hit level 110 right before 7.2.5 dropped. After gearing up, and obtaining concordance on my arms weapon, I have been checking everyday. The last comment was 27 days from this post, which was during 7.2.0. As far as I can tell, the quest has NOT been up once since the release of 7.2.5.

Comment by Quantum123

As of this comment it has been 55 days since the quest has been up stuff like this is ridiculous.

Comment by 1750955

Quest is up Today! (US Realms) 8/3/2017

Comment by Saelorion

After the talk to, and accepting the quest, jump down to Dalaran to find Saurfang pretty much right next to where you jump to Skyhold. You get sent back to Helgar and then sent to the Arena of Glory on the opposite side of Skyhold. Jump into center and it phases to you and Saurfang.

Interrupt or stun him when casting shockwave, interrupt his intimidating shout. Otherwise it is a straight forward fight. You don't have to kill him, just to about 30%.

Afterwards go back to Helgar and follow the quest/talk along and learn/enjoy your new artifact look.

Comment by KhadgarsPunnings

I found that preceding getting this quest on my warrior Master Smith Helgar said "Your sword is incredible, I wonder if there is an axe to match it." Which was a cue for a conversation which then gave me the quest.

Comment by Alias3003

Quest is up now on Madoran US

Comment by AnarchParadigm

Have seen a bunch of questions regarding this quest. I got it after I completed the quest to unlock the Dragonslayers appearance for Fury.

Comment by McTable

Quest is up on Frostmane EU.

Comment by Richmond79

Quest is up on Lightbringer-EU

Comment by InfinityGauntlet

Quest is available today, or at least it's up on Well of Eternity-EU

Comment by warlordcali

can you mog your artifact and still pick up the quest

Comment by Tronski

Quest is active today, at least on The Maelstrom-EU.

Comment by Wowoholik

After waiting 3 weeks, today on the Vek'nilash realm quest is open ! Yesterday I wrote to support - I got the answer:

This isn't a problem with your character, that quest has a chance to appear for the entire server each day.
You just need to keep checking your realm there each day and it will pop up at some point.

Nothing wrong with your character there as your 1 character has no effect over this quest.

accident ? I do not think so ! xD

Comment by MasterTiger

I have checked for 3 months on Echo Isle realm and this quest has not appeared.Yet before I went and finished quest for arms weapon it was up every month if not twice a month.I have submitted a ticket as this I believe this quest appearing is broke.I must say like others I am very disappointed in this long wait.

Comment by kuroyame

Ok, I tell you my case because it has crumb. Well I am a fury warrior, I have been insisting to take out all the hidden skins to have them. NEVER and I say NEVER I have left the mission of weapons warrior in the headquarters. I have advanced so much with my character to such an extent that I have the second skin of the weapon artifact. how? Well unblocking before the tank hidden skin. Since the second skins of the artifacts ask you to complete 30 legion dungeons after unlocking a hidden one. I can only wait until the mission leaves one of these days. But this data seemed curious to me, since it is not necessary to unclock the hidden main artifact to have the others.

I hope I have helped some warriors

Comment by Ritalin

Update: 2017-01-10 - ~~Today I completed this quest and I still cannot select the 1st (red) shader. Submitted ticket.~~ It was lost in the nether and the item showed up in my mail . . .

110 warrior on Zul'Jin. I've been playing mainly as fury, but dumped AP into Strom'kar on occasion to get Concordance. Today decided to research appearances. Started by talking to Helgar (he didn't have a quest for me). However, since talking to him, when I open Strom'kar in the forge the "30 Legion Dungeons" and "200 World Quests" appearances are available, even though I do not have the main Arcanite Bladebreaker unlocked. I'm 100% positive that these were not available to me prior to speaking with Helgar. Is this a known issue? I can "equip" the two other appearances without having the first one unlocked and they display fine. Any suggestions, or just keep checking Helgar everyday?

Comment by scorpious1109

Posting for a friend, has anyone been tracking or has any info about how often this quest has been appearing on US realms?

Comment by Coyotepq

It’s up today on US servers. Jan 10, 2018. Velen server, should be all US hopefully.

Comment by Duckota

This quest is up as of the date of this post for Area 52-US.

Comment by Gracin

Quest is up Zul'Jin - US. Get it while you can.

Comment by SuperGotenks

It's up on Lightbringer-US. I'm doing the quest right now.

Comment by ShadowPhoenx

Since it's up on all US realms today, I've been posting in TC/Gen chat so others who haven't checked or don't know won't miss out as the last time it was up it was 4 months ago. At long last many of us can get it!

Comment by AveryZan

Okay I might get flamed for this and called an idiot but I feel this is important and this does work different than other quests. If your quest log is full the quest will not show up at all or at least it didn't for me. People were saying it was up on the 10th of January but I could not get it. I realized my log was full. As soon as I dropped a quest today on the 11th I was able to get it though. Make sure you got a spot open on your quest log if you are camping this and again it was up today at 10:26 AM 1/11/2018 U.S Servers GL!

Comment by Neumann

It's available on EU-Magtheridon 18/01/2018

Comment by Itelletas

Available 1/28/18 (spotted on Anvilmar), go check today!

Comment by violetvree

Up on Fenris today

Comment by ranger95b

Up today on Dalaran and Durotan servers

Comment by canuck7k

Up today on Zul'jin!

Comment by Savagesock

Oh brother! Got the quest. Found the guy at Krasus landing. Went up to fight him in the arena. Huh? Didn’t see him. Walked around a bit. Checked with the arena master. He just asked if I wanted to fight in the arena. No thanks. Thought it glitched so I quit the quest line so I could pick it up again. DON’T DO THAT! Can’t pick it up again. Waiting on a ticket to resolve.

Comment by Errno

Up on Ravencrest-Eu

Comment by silverage

It is available on Twisting Nether EU today 28/2/2018. I just got it on my 105 warrior but it is impossible to defeat Saurfang in the arena at that level. He has 18 million HP.

Update: I can confirm that if you group up with a lvl 110 friend and he defeats Saurfang you get quest credit too even if you stayed outside. You then just have to leave the area, return, jump back in the arena and then go give it in or else Saurfang doesn't appear to talk to him.

Comment by Eruanne

Live today on Dragonblight EU.
19.03.2018

EDIT: I just wanted to say, that you won't see an exlamatio mark on the map. you need to walk past him and he will comment on your weapon. talk to him, THEN you get the quest

Comment by prncesspeach1747

Up on oceanic servers today - at least, it's up on Caelestrasz and Aman'thul

Comment by Chevex

This quest is up on Earthen Ring today! :D

Comment by darkyoshi87

quest is up today on proudmoore.

Comment by Kryoklo

The Quest is up today on ragnaros eu. Go to the forge and talk to Helgar.

Comment by dolphin517

The quest is up today on Ner'zhul so go to the forge and speak to Master Smith Helgar! ;)

Comment by Bridaroga

The quest is up today on Quel'Thalas-US, good luck!

Comment by Helvard

Quest is available today, 2.5.2018 on Arthas - US

Comment by blurfox

Available today (24/05/2018) on Nemesis, Eu
On a side note, I got the quest, completed it and unlocked the appearance on my 106 warrior, so you don't have to be 110, grab it while you can!

Comment by Shyshaman

I read the information about the weapons. There are the three stone tablets you can read to learn the lore about the weapons. You need to read the arms weapon lore. When I did that the option to speak to the blacksmith next to my forge opened and I could start the quest. Pay attention to what he says as you approach him. He wonders if there is an ax of equal power to your sword.

Comment by Viteh

It's up today on NA (June 17th).

I had been "checking" every day for months, but it was never up. Then I realized it's not an actual Exclamation Mark, you get the quest by talking to the guy next to the Artifact Forge. So in order to check properly, you gotta talk to the guy and hope the dialogue option is there.

Comment by Hate69

It's up on Burning Legion-EU.

Comment by ChestDay

Up today on Nemesis-EU!

Comment by strohmja

Active as of this comment on US-Scilla.

Comment by Solfira

As far as the difficulty of the duel with Saurfang goes: It was fairly trivial to do even at 885 ilevel with Prydaz on. He never got past the shield. The duel took about 1 minute, if that.

Comment by garuru0007

Up on EU - Tarren Mill!

Comment by Zlutus

Up on EU Dragonblight

Comment by ddaxis

Its up right now on US-Sargeras

Comment by carlata

i have a "!" on my map for this quest today, never seen it before. when i go to master smith helgar, he has no quest for me. i am conflicted.

Comment by series6

I havent seen this up since I missed it 12 months ago despite checking daily.
And Blizzard wonder why they have lost half their subs since BFA launch and are down to 1.7m......

Comment by bambix3d

Got it today on EU.

Comment by Sanguiis

Up today on US 2/14/2019.

Comment by foxer3

Can you still do this at 120? Do you need to be arms spec to get the quest or can do it with fury?

Comment by Xoasin

Up today on EU. 26.07.2019

Comment by eferna

noticed interesting thing, the questmark wasn't there, but i talked to him, there was some short conversation and the quest just showed up

Comment by Flexie

Up today on EU - 13.02.2020

Comment by Danaan

Up today on Arygos (Europe).

Comment by darkness2k

Active today (EU - Bloodhoof)

Comment by swlunatic

Active today (US) Echo Isles

Comment by celyying

Up on Kel'Thuzad (US)

Comment by Shiftygoesnifty

Up today on Illidan US!

Comment by livewire042

Up today on US-Hyjal

Comment by Delidor

Up today 6/13/2020 - US Kil-Jaeden

Comment by AnkerJym

Little late on this, but up today 06/18 on Cenarion Circle US

Comment by Lorelai1548

Up today, June 22 on Wyrmrest Accord.

Comment by Valorna

Up Today, July 11 on US Stormrage

Comment by Seton

I got this today, EU Thunderhorn 17.07.2020

Comment by Kleetus

up US-Stormscale Aug 3

Comment by kbfixit

Up on US Shu'Halo Tue. Aug 4th, 6p EDT

Comment by OldGromm

The quest is up on EU right now (I'm on Doomhammer, but I saw another post saying it's up on Silvermoon as well).

Comment by Windrider86

quest is up today eu 29/8/2020

Comment by kingiddqd1

today up on EU 25/09/2020

Comment by Coriam

Up today (Oct 10, '20), in NA.

Comment by mathewjevans

Up today! NA

Comment by Mowes

Up today in Nemesis-NA (16/oct/2020).

Comment by Erghar

Up today (18/10), (also protection hidden appearance) EU!

Comment by Joker515

Up today! North America

Comment by MeowVulper

Up today on EU-Tarren Mill

Comment by Blaylock13

Any1 seen this up since Shadowlands? Also, do you need to be in Arms spec or have Stromkar in bag?

Comment by Naj4

Just got the quest at the time of this message (EU) :)

Comment by bombnation

How exactly do you get him to spawn the quest? Ive done the class hall campaign up to where i got my command board up and running.

Comment by Turki98

It is up today, 19th of December 2020, Kazzak EU

Comment by LazarusSmile

So, when you actually DO fight Saurfang in the Arena of Glory, you don't have to kill him (which is good because I was facing him at level 38 with only 4K hit points and he had over 60K), you just have to wear him down to about 50% before he yields. Avoid his Shockwave and Whirlwind attacks. It may take you a couple of tries. I was able to beat him on my third attempt.

Comment by Kerosus

Up today Feb 15th 2021 US servers

Comment by jo691028

The quest spawned today on US-Frostmourne
Only to discover you can no longer transmog other weapons as the axe
Compete waste of time

Comment by Draket

Available today atleast in EU!

Comment by Adrionus

Available today on US Realms - Wyrmrest Accord!

Comment by Sqedwayne

Up on eu ragnaros today

Comment by AverageFanatic

Up today - Sisters of Elune.

- There was NO quest marker for me. (I had been checking daily only for a quest marker on my map).
- I interacted with Helgar and after some small dialogue, he gave me the quest.
- I teleported to Dalaran and found Saurfang next to the Warrior teleport on the flight platform. After interacting with him, I went back to the Warrior Hall and spoke to Helgar.
- Went to the Circle of Glory to duel Saurfang
- Waited for some RP between Saurfang and Helgar, turned in quest, and received the artifact!

Comment by davilson

up today on us-nemesis
after a quick dialogue he gave me the quest
you dont need to be on arms spec or equipping the arms artifact.

Comment by NiTr0at

Up today on EU-Aegwynn

Comment by Ishar

Up today on EU 17.06.2021

Comment by MerVidiuM

03:44 EU Silvermoon (A)

LVL 55 Human (Not wearing any artifacts)

Helgar, had the quest for me.

Good luck guys.

Comment by D3adInside

Up today 22.07.2021 on EU (Blackmoore).

Comment by Youngster1111

Up today on NA - Aug 10, 2021 (Area 52)

Comment by Vargos33

up today whisperwind US 08/28/21 10:38 cst

Comment by Umicchan

Quest is up today on Thunderlord US

Comment by mirpol

Up today (14.10.) on EU!

Comment by DemiseZJ

up today on zul'jin US, 3 PM EST,

Comment by Trikkisixx

Up today in EU - At least it is on Draenor.

Comment by Jadokis

It's up today in mal'ganis, US 12pm EST

Comment by Dtrmuerte

Up today. Zul'jin EU

Comment by Duskashes

Up today on Illidan.

Comment by Scottizzle

As of today 3/28/2022 in shadowlands 9.2 all I had to do was talk to Master Smith Helgar, and he had dialogue options for me, then gave me the quest. There was NO ! marker over his head, I just had to initiate some conversation then I was off and running.

Comment by Carna41

5/30/22 9.2 Shadowlands, and I've been checking back daily for a full week for the quest in NA!

Fury spec, keeping both the fury swords and arms sword in my bag every time I check. GL to anyone else hunting! Drop a comment if its up the day you see this!

Comment by Carna41

Quest is up as of 6/1/22 in NA!

Comment by 2079159

Has anyone seen this recently? Been checking on NA for almost a week now on two characters with no luck. Thanks!

Comment by Mhortai

Been waiting for this to pop for over a week now. No dice. Is this typical or am I missing something?

Comment by Mhortai

Up on NA 6/13/2022

Comment by SiaN778

Active on 3 russian realms so probably active everywhere. 19.08.2022. Gz everyone, finally after 3 weeks I got this awesome Axe.

Comment by Plantmonster

Quest was up for me today, 8/29/2022.
Master Smith Helgar said "Your sword is incredible, I wonder if there is an axe to match it." when I got near him.
I was in arms spec and had the artifact weapon equipped.

Comment by luleelurah

Quest is up for me today - 4th November 2022 (Oceanic realm, NZ time)

Comment by Larrey

14th December 2022

QUEST AVAILABLE FOR ME ON EU TODAY. WALKED UP TO MASTER SMITH HELGAR WITH ARMS ARTIFACT EQUIPPED AND HE SAID:

Your sword is incredible, I wonder if there is an axe to match it.

Afterwards I was able to pick up the quest 'Secrets of the Axes'

14th December 2022

Comment by reggaerilla

Quest up on EU-Silvermoon, 23 December

Comment by 7rinity

Quest Up, NA

Comment by biGSky12

Up currently (15/01/2023) on Frostmourne OCE, hence rest of NA/OCE (from what other comments have said, at least.

Comment by Cinneria

Today 16th January 2023 It's up on Ravencrest-EU!

Comment by Bra1nerr0r

Up 26th January, 2023 on EU-Antonidas. :)

Comment by Kwongdor

Quest is up Feb 9 2023 on US Sargeras.

Comment by rukt

Up Feb 9th on NA Tich

Comment by booodka

Apparently dragon fight has switched things up... I got the quest today - 2/9/2023, i was in arms at the time and was able to accept it, i followed the quest trail up to the dueling part. You have to be in fury to jump into the area and then it just starts

Comment by Kaiserecht

Quest up today 10th feb 2023 on Kazzak-EU!
I was in fury spec with fury artifact xmog only. Didn't need to be in arms spec or equip arms wep (but wep was in bag).

Comment by Jetchii

Quest up today 13th march 2023 on Stormreaver-EU!

Comment by vocke

Quest is currently up today - 03/16/2023.

Comment by figis

This is up today in the US. 3/28/23

Comment by mnichul

Quest is up today 4/4/2023 - you do not need to be in Arms spec or have the Arms Artifact Weapon equipped, however, I had the Arms Artifact Weapon in my inventory and was in Arms loot spec (you shuold always be in Arms loot spec anyways, to avoid getting one-handed weapons)

No quest marker, when I walked close to Helgar he said the line and I could talk to him to get the quest

Comment by Annihi98

April 10. quest is up :3

Comment by BladestormTank

April 18th, 2023 US-NA Servers, quest is up.

No quest marker, I had to talk to Helgar.

Comment by Stone89

Up today 04/23/2023 for Silvermoon EU

Comment by Xorag

Up today May 3rd 2023 NA-Thrall

Comment by Sorcielle

Up today May 8, 2023 on US-NA servers!

Comment by Noyzey

Is this event still active? I've been to Master Smith Helgar every day for almost a month now! (EU)

Comment by Noyzey

Up today! 19/05/2023 - EU KAZZAK

Comment by Georgino

Up today on EU (26 May 2023)

Comment by Dallacar

Up today, had arms spec on and artifact in my inventory, was not equipped. Didn't show a quest marker, but he did have dialogue. 07/16/23 US server.

Comment by Rathaitu

quest is up today, had arms specialization selected and equipped artifact just in case before walking up to the master smith

Comment by Ketsami

Up today, US Kel'Thuzad, Arms spec along with artifact weapon equipped

Comment by Boarbingus

Up today, Frostmourne-US

Comment by Bantai

Up today. Frostmourne

Comment by Aveas12

Up today on EU-DieAldor.
I had the artifact in my inventory, but was in Fury spec.

Comment by zigamoot

Up today Draenor EU - had arms specialization selected and equipped artifact before talking to the master smith, make sure to go up and talk to him

I have been to the order hall a number of times but this was the first time I actually talked to him, I thought the quest would show up above him...

Comment by sarahlogic

If you're new to the class hall and can't figure out how to duel Saurfang, you have to jump off the side of the outer ring toward the center of the arena and use heroic leap into it. Saurfang will appear to duel once you're there. (Quest was up for me on NA 1/29/24)

Comment by vint

Today is the day (EU)

Comment by BladeKnight1120

Up today, 17 February on US-Moonrunner

Comment by Meilinn

Up today Feb 27 2024 in Area52-US

Comment by Kalthoreil

Up today in EU !

Comment by nixx998

Secrets of the Axes is up today (25.5.2024) in EU-Wildhammer

Comment by Islandoperil

Quest is up today. Checked on EU-Argent Dawn 30.05.2024.

Comment by piraka810

Up today on US Dalaran, 9.17.24

Links

Secrets of the Axes

Search the Broken Isles for the greatest axe wielding warrior you know.

	Find the warrior with the axe (1)
	Speak with Saurfang (1)
	Speak with Helgar (1)
	Duel Saurfang (1)
	Speak with Helgar and Saurfang (1)

Description

Battlelord, I have a request. Find me inspiration! An axe whose form has seen a truly astounding amount of battle, wielded by one of the world's most powerful warriors. Both weapon and owner forged together in the crucible of war. Find this hero and their weapon, and convince them to come here.

Progress

Completion

Rewards

You will receive:

	The Arcanite Bladebreaker

See if you've already completed this by typing:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43643))

Guides

A Guide to Artifact Weapons Arms Warrior Artifact Weapon: Strom'kar the Warbreaker Hidden Artifact Weapon Appearances and Effects