WoW Economy Weekly Wrap-Up: 8.1 Preparation, Island Expedition Farming, Tools & Addons plus Giveaway!

Wowhead Posted 2018/11/24 at 1:03 PM by Gumdrops

check out the previous articles right here on wowhead.comGumdrops/r/woweconomy subredditDiscord serverTradeSkillMasterMethodPatch 8.1 Preparations/u/Qirej shared their thoughts and theory on what prices for turn-items are going to do in 8.1

I've got a feeling that with the changes coming to the way contributions are done in 8.1, prices of the items/materials to be handed in will go up.

Apparently in 8.1 it will no longer be a barrage of 8-9 turn in quests ever few weeks. Instead, it will be two quests a day - or something like that. Of course this could change. But if those are the changes that go live, then I think prices will go up. At the moment, prices are incredibly cheap for a few weeks, and then skyrocket the first few days of a contribution, get slightly lower over the course of the week, and then fall back down again.

With the new changes, I don't think prices will reach the same price as they currently do when a contribution opens. However, I think they will be more expensive on average. Say battle-flag spirit of freedom. It will cost about 100-300g on my server. Then contribution comes around, and it sells for 2.2-2.5k. I've got a feeling the price of this item will increase to something like 500g+ at all times, but then only sell for around 1k-1.5k when contribution comes out. Of course I may have completely misinterpreted these changes, but that's what I think may happen. Higher average price, but lower spike in huge price.

/u/Rakrath clarifies the situation based on PTR testing

the quests are named: Arathi Donation... and Darkshore Donation...
3 quests are available per Warfront each day
one quest is guaranted gold or ressources
2 quests are profession based and rotate daylie
it can happen that both contribution phases are up for one faction at the same time
then 6 total quests are available (2 gold/res + 4 profession)
Darkshore quests are new quests with a wide array of materials (blood bones, storm silver ore, rare gems, battle pots etc for full list check ptr/wowhead database regulary)
some 8.0 quests got changed/nerfed (example from 20 to 10 healing potions, 60 to 40 catfish
due to testing, they cycles on ptr are faster, we dont know the cycle times. And we dont know if the new warfront will be shipped with 8.1 directly

/u/ErgoNonSim counters this with the point that players are currently losing money and there is generally less to spend in the economy at the moment

Your average player is running out of gold. And I think Blizzard knew and did it on purpose to keep subscriptions up after 8.1/8.2 when most likely the Mission Table will start giving decent gold missions. When the new range of incursions/invasions become stale and players rush through 8.2's new zone in a couple of weeks they will want you to stay subscribed and its the mobile app that will be the new constant gameplay for the average player when you get millions with 2-3 alts. At 8.2 there will be no reason for most players to continue to do the same old World Quests over and over unless you get something useful from them... War Resources to get that sweet sweet gold.

Currently:

Gearing up past 340 required BoE's that were extremely expensive at the start of the xpansion.
Consumables + repairs if you're doing end game content will deplete your bank slowly
6 month subscription mount was 1mil gold plus there's new mounts at 300k gold coming.
PvP/PvE weekly gold carries + Island Expedition Boost carries.
Farming is the only decent source of steady income and that's not for everyone when you have to spend hours only to sell your Linen at 2g
Gearing past 355 is also expensive because you get rejected from M+4 and higher and you need to buy BoE's to get to 360+ and get yourself some decent drops
Level boost. I went from 3 mil to under 100k gold :( But I have boosted a warrior and a hunter to 110 and bought tons of gear. And I know plenty others who have boosted at least 1 toon to try out.
Your average player can't make much gold with professions if any.
You see players at 300ilevel in dungeons all day because they're not even spending on the 310/325 gear on AH and on most servers that's in the 1-2k/piece range

How are you preparing for patch 8.1? How do you think the Auction House will change if mission tables start rewarding more gold again? Are you taking a break from gold-making until future patches at the moment?Island Expedition Farming/u/RogueHard shared some data on their results farming Island Expeditions

Setup: A twinked 111 Demon Hunter 2 Alts on separate accounts for Leveling

I mostly left the other two guys on the boat after they die the first time.
Focused on rares while avoiding fighting opposite team.
Collected occasional node as well as themed chests.
Prioritized Events like Dragons and Portals
I have noticed my time is 3-4 minutes above what people normally take. I’m not sure if this is because I am not in a hurry but if you kept it to 6 mins you should see a 25%-35% increase in runs per hour and commensurately in your total GPH.
I sold my pets cross server for max profit and found the TMog items either in the 9k-16k or 25k to 40k on my realm and they sell reasonable quickly(less then a week for most of them).
I only got one Mount, the Bleakwater Jelly.
I didn’t record my XP gains but I certainly put at least a few levels on a couple toons.

Do the Alts need to be within a certain proximity of kills to qualify for loot? For XP?

Total Gold(in item value on my server): 308,000
Avg Run: 10min Gold Per Run: $12,320 Gold Per Hour: 68,583
Total Dubloons: 108 Dubs Per Hour: 24 Dubs Per Run: 4.32
Total TMog: 10 TMog Per Hour: 2.2 TMog Per Run: 0.4
Total Pets: 5 Pets Per Hour: 1.1 Pets Per Run 0.25
Total Mounts: 1 Mounts Per Hour 0.22 Mounts Per Run: 0.04(small sample size)

/u/Tamonxz has some answers to your questions

I don't multibox but I can answer a few of the questions as I also do islands on a twink and I've done probably 1k total at this point.

I have noticed my time is 3-4 minutes above what people normally take. I’m not sure if this is because I am not in a hurry but if you kept it to 6 mins you should see a 25%-35% increase in runs per hour and commensurately in your total GPH.

Do the Alts need to be within a certain proximity of kills to qualify for loot? For XP?

Total Pets: 5 Pets Per Hour: 1.1 Pets Per Run 0.25 Total Mounts: 1 Mounts Per Hour 0.22 Mounts Per Run: 0.4

/u/Nosorozhek for the high level pro tipChauffeured Chopper

For those farming IE with 110-111 twinks, killing the island in 2-3 big pulls, dismount is quite a problem when pulling almost the whole island. Heirloom mount is a mount where player is technically a passenger, so he can't be dazed and dismounted. That makes it probably the best mount choice for those farming expeditions with non-tank spec. Yes, it's only 60% movespeed increase (70% with guild perk), but you can pretty much pull the whole island with it while never getting dismounted.

Have you farmed any Island Expeditions? Have you purchased or sold any leveling services that involve running Island Expeditions like the Legion twink dungeon runs? Have you ever spent gold on creating a twink character, for gold-making or for fun?Tools & AddonsGoblineerAuctionFasterAnS or Auction & Sniping

What is it? A lightweight set of auction buying and selling modules for AnS.

All auctions are sorted based on Price Per Unit from low to high. For efficiency, it uses blizzard built in AH sorting and thus results are always returned low to high.

The scanning of auctions will only go 4 pages deep for two reasons: One efficiency and two to get a good peek at low to average pricing. There really is no need to scan all pages for buying, because as goblins we are always looking for the cheapest prices.

the creator of The Undermine Journal after he read about so many people getting sniped one-too-many times after posting things incorrectlyBoomerang Anti-Snipe

Have you ever posted an auction at a price per stack when you thought you were pricing it per item?

What about selling an item for 500,000g, but you forget a few zeroes, and instead post it for 500g?

What happened as soon as you posted your auction? Someone running a sniping addon probably snatched your auction away before you could cancel it. Thousands upon thousands of gold lost.

This addon attempts to prevent that from happening. Every auction you try to post will get checked against a pricing source (like The Undermine Journal, TradeSkillMaster, Auctionator, or others). If you try to post an item for under 20% of its market rate (or, in the case of TUJ, under 2 standard deviations of the average), Boomerang will block it and your auction will never go live. You'll see a message in the chat window of what happened so you can evaluate and fix your post.

/u/adviou posted about the initial release this week

I'm developing an android app based on The Lazy Goldmaker’s BfA Spreadsheet, which allows you to evaluate if some item is more profitable by selling it directly at Auction House or selling its reagents separately. The app uses the TSM API to get the item prices, so you may refresh a maximum of 25 times per day.

After you setup your settings as realm and TSM key, you'll be able to search for an item to add it on your list to see the prices of each reagent and the profit for each rank of craft.

If you find any bug, please send me your report so I can fix it.

Download it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mock.wowcheckprice

What are some of your favourite gold-making related addons at the moment? If you could create an addon for WoW, what would it do?Giveaway

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Prize: 1 x 90 days of WoW Game Time for EU or NA

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Comment by Valebk2I think it s way too big gap between Legion and BfA in terms of mission table on other hand prices on AH are pretty much the same it drains casual player stock so fast. In some countries this is only way to pay in game services I think this can lead to some casual players stop playing in inability to get their subscriptionComment by KovomirLooks like I need to up my Island farming game! Herbing/Alchemy just isn't as profitable as it used to be on my server.Comment by AcccattoneI've never personally made a twink specifically to run island expedition, but have done myself quite a few boosts on healer-consumables weeks. As a discipline priest, I can quickly chuck on a Holy Prism, proceed to pull the whole island on my chaffeured chopper, then holy nova everything to death :) lots of fun too. Sadly still no mountsyet, pets only :SComment by XhevoI thought Island Expeditions were dead? Ever since they bumped up the drop rates the items you get from IEs dropped drastically in my realm, and they barely ever sell. The only thing I use them for is leveling alts but it's such a slug. Let's hope 8.1 shakes things up in the economy, since the most effective way to farm gold in my experience is BOE farming, but it's so boring.Comment by GurahkI really love the idea of farming gold via island expeditions. Its way more fun than other methods since you are always excited to get some mount, pet or transmogg that you want to keep for yourself. In addition, it is way nicer to level your twinks via island expeditions and pvp than via questing since you actually do something that your main and whole account benefit from.Comment by wreckinball99I really like the idea of farming island expeditions it's less monotonous than boe farming, or gathering. On my server prices seam to fluctuate based on the available invasions so sitting on items can get me a better sale price.Comment by ShriekmawI really dont understand why they gutted the gold making on professions. It really is quite bothersome to me.Comment by SaphirkaThat sounds good and bad at the same time tho. Finally Island Expeditions will have more use to it. And more fun too to run. On the other hand, proffessions now feel even more useless then before. :(Comment by oblivionazgIve farmed expeditions for pets, mog and mounts, but it mostly depends on the islands available. Like ill always farm when theres vrykul islands available for the plate set and the 2hComment by RemmDuchaxBoosting for gold with island expeditions does sound like good fun, not sure how expensive it'll be to twink a DH though. it'd be nice to know if somebody could link a good twinking guide as my only twinking knowledge goes back to the glory days of pvp twinking in the 19 and 29 brackets!Comment by ramajukoGobineer seems like an interesting addon, if I didn't already utilize TSM. I am going to also throw my hat in the "disappointed with money from professions" corner. It seems like there's almost no reason to have a profession, other than Alchemy/Enchanting.Comment by admiralsweatersTHE GOLD APOCALYPSE IS UPON US, ALL IS DOOMED, AS THE GUY I MET ON A STREET CORNER ONCE MAYBE INFERRED. The masses will flop around like fish, completely helpless to do anything but lie on the ground and mourn their grave misfortune! It's all over, CLEARLY! The sage on the sidewalk even had irrefutable evidence, he didn't even realize; The fool. If he'd just simply triangulate the distance between the bottle of vodka he was holding, his one tooth, and the 20 dollar bills he stitched together to make a blanket, he would of realized that it made a very specific pattern that when deciphered held a secret message. Taking the initiative for truth he was too blind to comprehend, I drew the pattern onto the sidewalk and took a picture of it (I keep chalk on me at all times for I AM A GENIUS like that guy from good will hunting or whatever and sometimes I brain blast my unfathomable knowledge all over whatever is closest to me... BUT I DIGRESS). I put the image into photoshop, reversed it, inverted it a few a times, and after changing it from a .png to .jpeg IT OBVIOUSLY shows the message "the mayans were right, no more gold ". IT'S PRACTICALLY WRITTEN IN NEON!

Well, I guess I might as well throw out all my valuables, delete my bank alts, and live like the hopeless mongrel that I am. Oh how unfortunate of a soul am I.Comment by naegI have farmed quite a few IEs. I got a few transmogs and pets, but nothing major. I do plan on starting again, as there is not much else to do for me atm. I'm not raiding or doing mythic dungeons. I still hope for one of the mounts. Professions or gold making in general is less fun atm :(Comment by HalgrimmdkThe concept of tri-boxing Islands and just solving them on one char sounds wild to me! Now and then we almost lose with 3 players - how can one solo the whole thing? Especially when Chauffeuring around to pick up all the trash - that is usually a sure wipe in PUGs - am I doing something fundamentally wrong or are some people just OverPowered?Comment by GyrosparkI'm impressed, no advert for TSM this time round.Comment by hahnsoloi gotta check out goblineerComment by gpbjMy favorite auction house addon is and likely always will be Auctionator. I don't post tons of auctions, so when I do, Auctionator makes it convenient. Nothing fancy, but it works.Comment by FnordCola"PvP/PvE weekly gold carries + Island Expedition Boost carries."

You really think the average player is buying a bunch of carries every week? That seems like a dubious proposition even in the gold-flush days of Legion, let alone with all the deflation and gold drought in BFA. There are clearly enough people buying for carries to remain profitable, but they go for enough that you don't actually need many buyers to make a substantial amount.

Absent some actual evidence from ErgoNonSim I'm calling baseless speculation-to-outright lies on that point.Comment by selkie47I really wish there was an easier way of doing this solo. Or at least duo. I'm not a fan of these IEs to begin with and if I just want to farm them, I'd rather not deal with randoms. :/Comment by ValkylRun 700 Islands without seeing any mounts. Probably saw about 2/3 of the pets (not including duplicates) in that time. Waiting for 8.1 changes to run islands any further except maybe a week with pirates as the main island denizen since that is a good week for Squaks farming.

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