Dragonflight Talent Feedback - Future Plans for Hunter Trees

Dragonflight Posted 2022/07/15 at 5:54 PM by perculia

Edit #2: 4:55 PM PST

Will the skills like Scatter Shot not being usable with a melee weapon be fixed as well, or is that intentional?

why is serpent sting even in the class tree in the first place?Edit #1: 3:50 PM PST

I assume this means it will bounce to targets even if they are not within Kill Shot threshold?

Will these 3 points have the same combined effect as the 5 did previously, or will that be changed?Original Blue Post

Hello Hunters,We wanted to discuss some plans we had coming in the next few builds and address a few points of feedback.Class Tree Changes:

Improved Mend pet reduced to 2 points for +25/50%. Also now has a chance per tick of Mend Pet to also dispel a magic effect from your pet.
Scare Beast is no longer on a path that connects to other nodes below it, it’s a one-off thing to the side of the tree.
There is potentially a placeholder +Agility node where scare beast was. This will be changed if it shows up in your build to something that isn’t direct throughput.
Chimaera Shot removed from the class tree.
Master Marksman will likely be changed to also work with melee critical hits.
Death Chakram will likely be changed to increase all damage taken, rather than just Physical. This should make it more competitive to Survival Hunters, who do a fair bit of non-physical damage.

Beast Mastery

Dire Pack needs to be reworked.

Marksmanship

Double Tap is being moved near the middle of the tree.
New bottom left talent as a selection node:

Kill Shot now works with Trick Shots
Some number of targets hit by your Trick Shot ricochets also have Explosive Shot applied to them.

Legacy of the Windrunners has moved, and is consolidated down to 3 points instead of 5.
Chimaera shot added near the top of the tree. It will once again replace Arcane Shot, and things that modify Arcane Shot will modify Chimaera Shot
Quick Shot removed.
Rapid Fire’s Focus generation will just be part of the baseline ability and no longer an upgrade.
Survival

A bunch of 3-point talents adjusted to fewer points.
A dependency problem with Frenzy Strikes needs to be resolved where you can get this talent without either Wildfire Bombs or Butchery/Carve

This is not a complete list of what will change in the next build, or even the next few builds. As more decisions are made, we’ll try to post here. As always, things are subject to change and what is there now, or in the builds to come, may not be final.Bug fixing is also an ongoing process.One other quick note:

Serpent Sting is way too far down one side of the tree when it’s one of Survival’s main skills

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Comment by spellswordsYou ever get the feeling the class devs play a certain class. Given the sheer amount of changes this class has seen multiple times....Comment by 1557772You ever get the feeling the class devs play a certain class. Given the sheer amount of changes this class has seen multiple times....Comment by VikolocoOH, hunters need a rework ? here's a few talent ideas: eyes of the eagle ranks 1-5 for further distance, eyes of the beast duration increased 1-3, improved camfire building 1-3, scare beast now last 1-3 more seconds, aimed shot now requires you to close 1-2 eyes to shoot, focus recovery rate incrased 1-5 per season, arcane shot now costs 1-1.5 less focus, improved Lore beast now suggests names for your pet 1-4, melee dmg incrased for MM 1-5.
Who is in charge of this class, for real...Comment by TybarnYou ever get the feeling the class devs play a certain class. Given the sheer amount of changes this class has seen multiple times....Comment by bodhiranaI'm sure Uncle Frosthiem will be dancing for joy seeing Chimera Shot going back to MM where it belongs.Comment by dwolf010I dont know anything about hunter. BUT I LOVE COMMUNICATION AND ITERATION. I have high hopes if they start doing it this fast with all classes. keep it up!Comment by dd614Kill shot working with trick shots would be a fantastic change.Comment by MiouVery nice to see changes so early and listening to feedback. I personally think that it almost becomes mandatory to add some kind of raid utility for hunters a a whole, and not only for BM (moving and doing mechanics at the same time) since almost every spec except hunter have viable raid utility at this point with the new talents. maybe at the space where Scare beast were before these feedback changes? aspect of the fox maybe? just a lower duration so it doesn't get abused in raids?Comment by CSM101I'm disappointed they're falling back on chimera replacing Arcane again. I liked chimera as a short cd heavy hit back in Cataclysm.Comment by Kratos88Please rework the middle section of the Hunter tree to include some defensives from the endurance conduits (Resilience of the Hunter, Marksman's Advantage). Could even turn Hunter's Mark to some raid-wide utility.
Also, how does a MM get Survival of the Fittest?Comment by franikHunter class lacks damage reductions and little more self-sustain.
On the class tree that's what it really needs: who cares about Improved Mend Pet or Improved Tranq Shot....Comment by tarcStill no old survival possible spec. Middle finger.Comment by ZarthadrenMaybe have hunters mark give 5% crit against that target as raid utility. Like the hunter paints the target for everyone to beat on.Comment by GassmaskWhy is chakrams even a option next to death chakrams? There is no situation you will ever take regular chakrams the ability should be deleted , it is 100% useless in every situations. Flayedshot ! or kyrian arrow should be the other option. Wild spirits should never be brought back because it’s too op and not fun to click.Comment by OrielnightMaybe have hunters mark give 5% crit against that target as raid utility. Like the hunter paints the target for everyone to beat on.Comment by SlimTimDoWorkMaybe have hunters mark give 5% crit against that target as raid utility. Like the hunter paints the target for everyone to beat on.Comment by Leandra7I'm sorry, do people really think Serpent Sting is cool on BM/MM? It's just a boring DoT that consumes yet another GCD.Comment by Leandra7Also yes PLEASE any extra defensive in the talent tree or baseline? ANY? Have you seen Sepulcher, we literally had to have a holy pala beacon on our heads to barely survive some fights.Comment by Setsuna665You ever get the feeling the class devs play a certain class. Given the sheer amount of changes this class has seen multiple times....Comment by MrTerkyManThese are all great changes to start off. Very happy feedback is being heeded and worked on. Just don't stop halfway.