We’re feeling pretty satisfied with the class tree structure but are still experimenting with placements and the content of specific talent nodes while taking onboard internal and community feedback.We’ve seen a new iteration of the class tree each week during the three weeks since the first release of the Warrior tree. In the version going live today there’s the most options due to more pathways and interconnectivity. We’d love to hear from you if you prefer this, or the more streamlined simple tree with obvious pathways that released initially.We want to spend a little more time with stances to try to achieve a version where each feel useful and desirable for different reasons, but we have had a fallback plan since embarking down this path of having an offensive and defensive stance. Fury and Arms would both start at the offensive node and Protection would start at the Defensive node.
- Thunderous Roar – We are working on this and the subsequent talent node, which will be a choice node internally and we hope to update on this soon.
- Signet of Tormented Kings – As above, we’re working internally on this, and we hope to have an update soon. We have ideas but haven’t implemented them yet.
- Shockwave – There has been some feedback about wanting Shockwave to be lower down the tree and easier to obtain. We’re quite confident that if we put it before the 20 points requirement that every Warrior both DPS and Protection would have it. That isn’t our intention, an AOE stun on fairly short cooldown is a powerful ability and we feel there needs to be some opportunity cost to obtain this. We’d like Shockwave’s subsequent node to be a choice so expect a new modifier here in the future.
- Rend - Our intention with the introduction of Rend to the class talent tree was that Arms and Protection would likely often choose it and that Fury would very rarely. We’ve seen higher uptake and reliance on Rend than we’d like so for this week we’ve moved it to the Arms and Protection trees as a test. We’d like to hear your feedback on this change.
There are several very simple nodes on various talent trees, including those of other classes. These serve multiple functions, and we’ll briefly detail some of the reasoning behind their existence.When looking at the talent trees for a class there’s a huge amount of information to absorb and learn. Beyond that, there’s also many choices for players to make. Having some talents that are simple and obvious in their effect helps to lower the overall complexity and functions as a guide for what abilities and stats are important for each specialization.However, we’ve heard your feedback about the secondary stat nodes and have been working to make them more interesting. There are some examples of this in the Fury tree this week.
- Warrior Updates
Changed some pathing and node positions to encourage more flexible build choices. - Spear of Bastion – Should now work correctly outside of the Shadowlands.
- Elysian Might – Should now work correctly outside of the Shadowlands.
- Honed Reflexes – Now reduces cooldowns by 1.0 second (was 1.5 seconds) and reduces the cooldown of Raging Blow (was Bloodthirst).
- New Talent: Menace – Intimidating Shout will knock back all nearby enemies except your primary target and cause them all to cower in fear for 15 seconds (was flee).
- Crushing Force has been redesigned – Slam deals an additional 30% damage and it has a 10% increased critical strike chance.
- Concussive Blows – Now reduces the cooldown of Pummel by 1.0 second (was 1.5 seconds).
- Titanic Throw – Correctly applies deep wounds to all targets when combined with Improved Heroic Throw.
- Impending Victory – Heals for 30% (was 40%).
- Thunder Clap – Costs 30 Rage for Arms or Fury (still costs 0 Rage for Protection).
- Rend – Removed from the class tree.
ArmsWe’re feeling confident in the general structure, but we will likely add some extra talents to the middle of the tree where it feels a little bit sparse.
- Sharpened Blade and Blunt Instruments – As with the simple talents mentioned earlier in this update, having some guidance from talents rather than everything being wide open can be helpful for some of our less knowledgeable players. We’re aware of the polarizing feedback here, but we want to get this in front of more players throughout the Alpha and Beta before we decide if it needs to be removed. If it doesn’t work out as we hope, we’re happy to change it.
We’re looking at changing the Bladestorm subsequent talents into choice nodes to give some more options for players to experiment with.
- Colossus Smash and Warbreaker – We’ve seen some feedback regarding why these are separate talents and require an investment of two talent points. 30% increased damage with the option to apply to multiple targets on a fairly short cooldown is a massive effect. It is worth far more than the average talent, especially for those located before the level 20 gate and we feel it is fair to be split into separate components as it currently is in the live game.
There are quite a lot of survivability options and improvements for Warriors in the class tree, but each DPS spec has historically had a major cooldown. For Arms it is Die by the Sword, so you are now purposely forced into pathing through it and one of its subsequent nodes in order to ensure you have a minimum of some survivability.
- Arms Updates
Changed some pathing and the position of some nodes so that players are much more likely to take some healing/utility nodes. - Warbreaker – No longer incorrectly replaces Execute and does not require 20 talent points to unlock.
- Storm of Swords – No longer incorrectly requires 20 talent points to unlock.
- Fracture – Now causes Rend, Deep Wounds and Thunderous Roar’s Bleed effects to instantly expire and deal all remaining damage over time.
- Skullsplitter – Cooldown increased to 30 seconds (was 21 seconds).
- Bloodletting – Also increases the critical strike chance of bleed effects by 10%.
- Die by the Sword – Should now correctly cost a talent point.
- Bloodborne – Now 2 ranks and each rank increases the damage of Deep Wounds, Rend and Thunderous Roar’s Bleed effects by 10%.
- Barbaric Training – Removed from the talent tree.
- Skull Banner – Should now correctly cost a talent point.
- Deadly Calm – Removed from the tree for now, iterating on a better version that will be more desired by players.
- Fueled by Violence – Increased heal amount to 50% (was 30%).
- Reaping Swings – Lowers the cooldown of Cleave by 3 seconds (was 2 seconds).
- New Talent: Storm Wall – Whenever you Parry, you heal for 10% of your maximum health.
- Rend – Added to the Arms tree.
- Exploit the Weakness now increases Tacticians’ chance to trigger by 1.6% (was 2.6%).
FuryWe’re doing something fairly experimental with Single-Minded Fury. We’re unsure if it will work out as intended, but we feel it there’s an important issue to try and address here. For a good deal of time there has been a consistent complaint that some players cannot continue to play Fury due to the intense nature of it. Our goal with Annihilator and the related talents is to create a sub spec that would provide a lower APM build that would still allow players to have fun, be competitive and feel like a Fury Warrior.
We’ve made Titan’s Grip baseline for various reasons, but primarily because it makes many things much simpler. It will be something players gain as they level up.As with the Arms tree, you are now forced to take Enraged Regeneration to ensure you have a minimum amount of survivability. A dead Warrior deals no DPS.Annihilator is intended to work with most of the Raging Blow modifiers (except those related to cooldown and charges), it is currently working with some, and we hope to have this fully functioning and detailed in tooltips by the next Alpha build.We’re working on the subsequent nodes for Odyn’s Fury and Ravager, these will be choice nodes and we’ll have more to share here in the future.
- Fury Updates
Rearranged various talents and created new pathways and choices. - Titan’s Grip – Now baseline for all Fury Warriors.
- Hack and Slash – No longer incorrectly requires 20 talent points.
- Onslaught – Removed the Enrage requirement to use, cooldown reduced to 14 seconds (was 16 seconds) and Rage generated reduced to 20 (was 25).
- Pulverize – Now increases Enrage by 1 second and causes Onslaught to Enrage you.
- Odyn’s Fury – Now generates 20 Rage temporarily. We plan for this this to generate Rage based on the targets hit in a future update.
- Crushing Blow – Removed the auto charge component.
- Swift Strikes – Now also causes Raging Blow and Annihilator to generate 1 additional Rage per rank.
- Critical Thinking – Now also increases the critical strike damage of Raging Blow by 5% per rank.
- Depths of Insanity – Ranks reduced from 2 to 1 and changed to, Recklessness lasts 5 seconds longer.
- Ravager – Cooldown increased to 90.0 seconds (was 45.0 seconds) but damage increased to 84% (was 42%) and now correctly awards 10 Rage when dealing damage.
- Siegebreaker – Duration increased to 12 seconds (was 10 seconds), now generates 15 Rage (was 10) and damage increased to 120% (was 110%).
- Deafening Crash – Now also increases the critical strike chance of Raging Blow and Annihilator during Siegebreaker by 10%.
- Slaughtering Strikes – Now correctly costs a talent point and correctly improves all Rampage Strikes when caused by both Raging Blow and Annihilator.
- Slaughtering Strikes damage bonus reduced to 8% per strike (was 10%).
- Frenzied Flurry – Reduced to 25% (was 50%) chance to trigger Enrage per rank and auto attack damage bonus reduced to 5% per rank (was 10%).
- Annihilator – Correctly no longer works with the chain effect of Whirlwind.
- Raging Armaments – Now correctly costs a talent point.
- Skull Banner – Now correctly costs a talent point.
- Vicious Contempt – Now 2 ranks at 20% per rank.
- Storm of Swords – Whirlwind and Slam have a 6.0 seconds cooldown but deal 100% increased damage and Slam generates 5 Rage.
- Annihilator – Damage reduced by 15%.
- Unbridled Ferocity – Now correctly cost a talent point.
- Deft Experience – Partial implementation and not labeled on the tooltip is that each node is intended to also reduce the cooldown of Bloodthirst by 0.5 seconds.
Protection - Shield Charge – The intention for this ability is that it would be used to charge into packs in dungeons or raids as an opener. Shield Charge isn’t competitive enough currently and we’ll be looking into this. We are toying with the idea of no minimum range so that it can be used at any time and would function more as a shield smash when you’re within a certain distance.
There are some technical complications with Devastator and Devastate that stopped us from merging them as a node for this week, we are likely to either make them a choice node or have Devastate be baseline.We’re working on subsequent nodes for Ravager and hope to have updates here soon.
- Battle Scared Veteran - We want this to remain powerful so in terms of changes we’re hopefully going to be able to balance this ability around the lockout period. Protection Warriors are performing well in the game currently but more so than some other tanks there’s a low margin for error. Battle Scared Veteran is intended to be a fall back in case you make a mistake.
- Protection Updates
Moved the position of a few nodes around to create some different options and added some new pathways. - Improved Heroic Throw – Now also increases the damage of Heroic Throw and Titanic throw by 100%.
- Bloodborne – Now 2 ranks and each rank increases the damage of Deep Wounds, Rend and Thunderous Roar’s Bleed effects by 15%.
- Spiked Shield – Damage increased by 10%.
- Rend – Added to the Protection tree.
