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Comentado por 17661

Do not bother to do this quest,

It is a lot harder then the other two quests, and gives no more reputation then either of them.

Comentado por 21687

+75 rep to Wintersaber Trainers.

Comentado por DSitC

Though not live yet, it seems that this quest will reward 350 reputation in 2.3 and beyond.

Comentado por Breotan

350 Rep per turn-in on live servers since 2.3 patch. Need honored rep to see the quest.

Comentado por 114615

imo this is much better than the furbolg q. a lot of low lvls taking the mobs there for rep grinding-.-

Comentado por Satchm00

Bearing in mind the actual travel time you may want to check the furblogs area first, if no one about grind to your hearts content. Doing both quests will increase your rep per hour also.

Comentado por JasperKazai

You can't do this as a frost mage, because they're immune to frost spells. :(

Comentado por texanwmn

I'm no expert at being a mage by any means, but I'm a 63 mage and I can kill the preservers and giants no problem. I'm currently specced full frost too, but my fire spells work just as well. The shield works wonders at protecting me from the biggest of their hits.

Comentado por 172152

Currently being 1010/12000 into honored here are my tips for this quest. You MUST be alliance to do these quests.

The Wintersaber Trainers are located in Northern Winterspring and pretty much the point of grinding reputation with them is solely to get Reins of the Winterspring Frostsaber. Now, pre-BC this mount was extremely hard to get due to the little amount of reputation you would get per quest turn in thus the grind was highly not worth it. Since Burning Crusade came out the reputation has been increased however the mount is still uncommon since people don't find the worth of the grind.

To get started you must find Rivern Frostwind (Note: he is literally on top of the giant rock at (49,9). You can get up to him from the back of the rock).

Outline of the reputation levels:

Frostsaber Provisions
1500/3000 Reputation: Winterfall Intrusion

Overview of the quests:

Frostsaber Provisions
Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
For this quest you need to collect:

Shardtooth Meat (5)
Chillwind Meat (5)

This quest seems pretty straight forward. I suggest killing Elder Shardtooth and Chillwind Ravager to get these meats. I find a good place to farm these is around (58,19). They have about a 30% drop rate.

Winterfall Intrusion
This quest becomes unlocked at 1500/3000 Neutral
Repuation: 250 (Humans: 275)
For this quest you need to slay:

Winterfall Shaman (5)
Winterfall Ursa (5)

This quest you need to head down to the Winterfall Village (67,36). If you're finding a lack of Winterfall Ursa look on the hill behind the camp. Shamans are spawned inside the camp. If you see a lack of them kill what's in there and some will spawn. There is always a shaman with High Chief Winterfall.

Rampaging Giants (Group)
This quest becomes unlocked at Honored
Repuation: 350 (Humans: 385)
For this quest you need to slay:

Frostmaul Giant (4)
Frostmaul Preserver (4)

This quest you need to head down to the Frostwhisper Gorge (62,67). And ramp down can be found at (59,64). These have a good spawn rate, pretty evenly mixed. If someone else if farming them you can hear back up and across the bridge to about (62,73) and you'll find more there. These are 60 elites however they are pretty easy to kill (me being a 0,21,40 destro warlock). The only downside to this quest is really the walk.

Tips for farming:

It's always nice to have a friend. This is a really boring grind so it's nice to have someone to do it with.
Riding Crop or Skybreaker Whip are worth it for this grind
Except for the elites, you can pull a few of these a time as a 70 and be okay.
Once you hit honored and you unlock Rampaging Giants I would only do that and Winterfall Intrusion. The ride is longer but not having to farm the meat with the bad drop rate and the bonus repuation is worth it if you can take the elites.
Don't get discouraged. It seems like it's gonna take forever but it's not as bad as it seems. In one day I'm a bit into honored.

Some math:

Neutral -> Friendly:

Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions:
12 trips ---- Humans: 11 trips
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and adding Winterfall Intrusion at (1500/3000):
9 trips --- Humans: 9 (there'll be a bit of leftover)

Friendly -> Honored

Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion:
24 trips ---- Humans: 22 trips
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion:
12 trips --- Humans: 11

Honored -> Revered

Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion:
48 trips ---- Humans: 44 trips
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion:
24 trips --- Humans: 22
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions or Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
20 trips --- Humans: 19
Repeating: Frostsaber Provisions and Winterfall Intrusion and Rampaging Giants:
15 trips --- Humans: 13

Revered -> Exalted (Same order as above)

84 trips --- Humans: 77
42 trips --- Humans: 39
35 trips --- Humans: 32
25 trips --- Humans: 23

Good luck all!

Comentado por 180772

Level 60 Shaman - currently soloing these with a couple of pieces of outland gear (Greens bought from AH). Each fight is close but doable. Please note, that you may not get all the kills that you need from clearing the valley. You may for example get the 4 Frostmaul Giants kills but only 2 Frostmaul Preserver kills. Which will mean waiting for a respawn of the particular type you need. The mobs are Level 59 and 60 elites.

Comentado por 74836

'' Around 4,000 years ago, Tyrande Whisperwind saved the life of the frostsaber queen, at the hands of rampaging giants. Since then, the frostsabers have been allies of the night elves. ''

'' These same giants that once were a danger to the frostsabers, still exist not too far from here. They are called the frostmaul, and they have taken over the large valley to the south. ''

'' Prove your loyalty to the frostsabers; kill these giants in the name of the frostsaber queen, Shy-Rotam! ''

Oh, that would be Shy-Rotam who I just killed in another quest then. Just aswell she didn't have time to summon her mate, or He'd have got it too.

Comentado por 308599

The information here is wrong. You can get this quest at level 59 (or maybe even level 58). It is too hard for me to complete solo at level 59 though.

Comentado por Otium

And keep in mind the rep you get for Timbermaw Hold while killing the Winterspring Shamans and Ursa's
20 each untill revered, plus dozens of Winterfall Spirit Beads, also for Timbermaw Hold rep upto exalted
300 rep for 5 beads..

All in all very time-consuming, but repwise rewarding.

Comentado por Merai

Now, pre-BC this mount was extremely hard to get due to the little amount of reputation you would get per quest turn in thus the grind was highly not worth it.

Remove that from post. Anyone who had the ability to obtain one pre-nerf and did not, but is now is sad. The grind was worth it. It was there to keep people that don't deserve one from getting it. If you weren't willing to attempt it pre-nerf then you're just lazy. It was a simple grind and got rid of those who don't do well with committing their time to something.

The grind should have never been nerfed. It was just another Blizzard mistake of giving into the bad whining over it being "too hard". In fact it was quite easy even at 70

Comentado por matornot

Setting your Hearthstone to Everlook can dramatically decrease your travel time when grinding this quest for hours.

Comentado por 322771

As from the new patch, this quest is available, but unattainable, as the bridge leading to the giants is destroyed, and they're not in the Gorge any more, there's new mobs called Ice Avatars.

:(

Comentado por 707647

I have tried both ways with no luck getting over to the giants. What rep does it pay compared to gathering the meat and killing the Ursa and Shammys? Is it worth the hassle since the meat is a 100% drop rate now? I can turn and burn the meat 4 or 5 times by the time I even get to the area the giants are in..

Comentado por Tenjen

if you go from the left facing the ravine, once you reach that slope that pushes up.

all you got to do is jump past a tree till you reach as high as you can go, then mount up and jump diagonally onto the top of the extended slope wall that you cant move past.

i'll get a screen shot and mark it.

Comentado por 251567

To get over the chasm before flight's added, dying and spirit rezzing works as well.

Comentado por Ozlem

Using the stop watch feature I timed myself. It currently takes on average 8mins to pick up and drop off provision & intrusion quests. If you pick this one up as well, since the bridge is no longer there and we can't fly over ATM, no matter how you do it (falling to your death or hugging the side of the mountain) it's about 20mins on average from pick up/ drop off on quests. 350rep is not worth that extra time wasted ATM. Until we get flight in Azeroth do the two quests and save yourself a few hours in grinding.

Comentado por 723655

Has anyone done this quest since Cata? I can't find any giants except Tumblers...

Comentado por 755421

I started grinding rep at level 58, the earliest you can get the quest. I just hit 59 now, achieved while grinding the first two quests, and the new one to slay the giants that are unattainable unless you can fly... that just floors me. I can't get a flying mount yet, why give the quest if I can't even reach the targets?

I've tried the east side of the chasm with several deaths and zero success. I'm told from people who were here before Cata was released that they changed the terrain.

Has anyone succeeded in crossing to the other side without a flying amount after the Shattering was released?

Comentado por Biaxident

Yes, it is possible to reach the other side. I only read your post after I had succeeded and died once trying to do it again. Then the game placed me at the spirit healer on the other side of the chasm. Resurrect, et voila. That's another option, it seems.

Edit: At the east side of the chasm, there's a big, big tree. That is probably the spot where you died a couple of times. You can jump on the ridge between the big tree and two smaller trees north of it. The jump is very easy when mounted, just don't jump over the ridge or you'll drop all the way down into the gorge. Once you're on top of the ridge, the trip to the other side of the gorge is easy.

Comentado por Technowitch

I don't know what's changed in this since Cata -- but the spawn rate is really, really low. If there is anybody else doing the rep grind, I think you can write off the giants and just work on the meat and the ursas.

For point of reference, I showed up and about half the giants were dead. I killed the rest... and waited over 10 minutes for a repop that never happened.

Comentado por BeegoD

Still not worthy, spawn rate is really low. Just skip it.

Edit:
If you have the following items, this could be worthy:

you are the only one grinding rep on this quest;
Mr Popularity guild perk ;
Hasty Heart guild perk;
310% mount speed;
Heartstone to everlook;

Comentado por Barleduq

This quest seems to be gone as of May 2012 - I'm doing the wintersaber mount daily without ever seeing this quest offered. Maybe it should be marked obsolete?

Comentado por Vycount

This quest, like Frostsaber Provisions, and Winterfall Intrusion, are no longer offered by the Wintersaber Trainer to obtain rep. You now typically get the rep and the mount by doing the quest They Grow Up So Fast, which takes 20 days.

However, as others have noted you do not NEED to do They Grow Up So Fast to get the rep or the mount. If you are able to get exalted, even before you finish that quest and get 20 whiskers, you will be able to buy the mount.

While Rampaging Giants isn't offered by the NPC anymore, you CAN still turn it in to him and get the 350/385 rep. I am currently going through revered by doing both the daily whiskers as well as all the 3 previous rep grind quests. Simply share the quests with a friend, turn them in to the NPC, get your friend to share them back, and repeat. you are able to grind the rep the old fashioned way along side the new method. This means that, depending on how much you want to farm, you can get the mount in much shorter than the now standard 20 days.

Two caveats, 1) you have to find someone who has the old quests in their logs still (I did because I left wow in the middle of the old rep grind and still had them upon my return); and 2) the friend you share the quests with should be at least honored with Wintersaber themselves in order to share all three quests, as each of the 3 old quest has a different rep requirement to accept.

Update Edit: While I currently have 11 whiskers and the new quest remains unfinished for me, I have successfully obtained exalted with Wintersaber trainers, purchased the reins for 70g (with guild perk), and got the achievement utilizing the above method of doing both the old and new quests.

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Aproximadamente 4 mil anos atrás, Tyrande Murmuréolo salvou a vida da rainha dos sabres-de-gelo das mãos dos gigantes descontrolados. Desde então, os sabres-de-gelo se tornaram aliados dos elfos noturnos.

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