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Comentado por Crevox

Drops in Normal mode of the new 5 man, Trial of the Champion.

It drops from The Black Knight.

Comentado por sasexw

Proc chance is 25% but we have no clue if it has a hidden cooldown.If anyone from PTR could confirm a hidden cooldown ,would help.
7056 armor for 10 seconds with 25% chance without a hidden cooldown would be OP.

Since its from a 5 man , i would like to have this on my warlock in my arena,metamorphosis SL,molten skin,demonic resilience , i think i could go past 60% dmg mitigation.Imagine a 2vs2 , 2 casters with this trinket , use and nuke. just a thought.

Comentado por Grizlor

This will be a pretty interesting trinket for cloth users in PVP as well, since the high proc chance when hit means it has a very good chance of putting up the buff and mitigating a lot of physical damage. The high stamina on it means you can focus on spellpower rather than stamina gemming for the rest of your PVP gear, effectively making up for not having a spellpower trinket equipped. I'm in no way advocating rolling on it over a tank, but I can definitely see some non tanks snagging it to save it from disenchant.

Is this better than battlemaster's for say, a warlock? I'm not quite sure. You can't use battlemaster's during a stun, whereas this procs automatically and can potentially take off a good chunk of a rogue's initial CS->KS burst on you. I'm expecting to see humans trying it out at least.

On my shaman who has 15k armor with a shield, removing my 7800 armor shield takes my physical mitigation from 51% down to 34%, an effective increase in physical damage taken of 35% total (going from 49% to 66% total damage taken from a hit). I'm too lazy to look at how much of a relative mitigation gain this is for a warlock with demon armor up going from 4-5k armor to 11-12k, but it is undoubtedly a lot.

Comentado por Manbewbs

Proc chance seems to be 25% atm (subject to change)

Comentado por evankimori

Expect some fighting over this trinket with PVP-ers a-la Magister's Terrace style with the Commendation Of Kael'Thas. Tanks ye be warned.

Comentado por Makutaitachi

Would it be any good for tanks to stack Essence and Heart? You'd get a nice 237 stamina plus some nice mitigation procs. =D

Though in one way that does kinda sound dumb.

And I thought this dropped from ~~Heroic~~ Champion, ~~because it dropped in a vid about H Champion. (Regarding Crevox' comment)~~

(EDIT: changed 'migitation' to 'mitigation', I really did not know my words sometime ago. Also crossed out some stuff for accurate info.)

Comentado por darknesscalls

To clarify, this trinket (and the other three trinkets) drop in NORMAL mode of Trial of the Champion, not in Heroic mode. Drops from the Final Boss (The Black Knight).

~~You have a 25% chance for this to drop from the boss, it shares the loot table with the other 3 trinkets (similar to the trinket drops from the 3rd boss of H MGT back in BC).~~ (Correction: All 8 items that drop from this boss ALL share a loot table. Since he drops 2 epics, you still have a 25% chance to get this trinket, but there is no guarantee that at least one of the trinkets will drop each time you run it, if you're really lucky two trinkets will drop at the same time)

Overall, after doing a couple of heroics with this equipped, the proc is pretty frequent, and when it does proc, it has the same graphic as if a Paladin used Hand of Protection on you.

Good luck!

Comentado por Garenvinci

This is a brilliant tanking trinket, obviously. The proc happens a lot, and 7k armor is never anything to sneeze at. The stamina is nice as well. The proc looks like a paladin's Blessing of Protection, and the buff looks like Holy Shield.

I don't think it procs off dodged, parried, completely blocked attacks, or ones that miss. Not that it matters, with the huge proc rate. 45 sec internal cd also sounds about right after a quick hVH.

tldr; get this from The Black Knight in regToC

EDIT: With Patch 3.2.2, the odd effect graphic has been changed. It no longer looks like Blessing of Protection has been cast on you. Instead, it appears that you have cast Retribution Aura. The buff effect, however, still looks like the icon for Holy Shield.

Comentado por 146460

if this drops off of Normal Not Heroic does that mean its grindable rather than the 24hr Cooldown of a Heroic Dungeon?

This is accurate.

Also, Rabarberskurk, to hit the 5/hr cap, you would have to complete the instance in less than 12 minutes. I believe all of the trinkets drop off of the final boss, The Black Knight. While the fights themselves are pushovers for any halfway-decently equipped group, the NPCs are chatterboxes and inflate the time required to complete the run by several orders of magnitude. This, combined with the fact that mounted combat doesn't scale with level/gear, makes it unlikely for very many groups to hit the 12-minute mark.

That being said, the dungeon remains easy and an excellent source for some amazing drops. Happy hunting!

Comentado por Mechanical

In order to quantify what "procs a lot" actually is, i ran a short test on the mobs at Kartak Hold.
I had 4/5 mobs beating on me from the back (so i didn't block/dodge/parry any hit) so that the changes of the trinket proc'ing after the ICD was up would be higher.
I wrapped it up after 10 procs.

Proc# Time since last proc
1 -
2 53s
3 51s
4 53s
5 51s
6 58s
7 52s
8 50s
9 51s
10 50s

The sample size is small, but appers to point to a 50s ICD. This averages out to 1411.2 armor over the course of any fight if it always procs on it's ICD (1176 armor if it procs every 60s, which is more realistic in a single mob scenario).

Comentado por 437098

For a Death Knight with 5/5 Bladed Armor, the armor proc gives 196 attack power (39.2 attack power per point).

Comentado por 63703

Thanks for the BOP graphic blizz.

Comentado por 46148

I have had it proc off a total block
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u288/piootr/World%20of%20AionCraftRoad/WoWScrnShot_080509_205314.jpg
As for parry/dodge/miss, I'm not sure.

Comentado por Bllets

Stacking stam isn't a good choice for most bosses in Ulduar. For General Vezax your 155/162 stam trinkets aren't going to do @#$% when the boss can hit for 30k. Using dodge or parry trinkets are MUCH better for most fights in Ulduar.

Assuming you have reasonablish avoidance/mitigation to start with, on a slot like a trinket especially, the more HP you can get, the better the logic of why, is simple.

You take a 20k hit from your 35-40k health pool, you NEED to be healed before the next hit.
You take a 20k hit from your 40-45k health pool, you will still (probably) be alive to be healed for a third hit.
Atop of that, every additional point of HP you have over a second or third hit killing blow is 'extra HP' that doesn't need to be healed up for the time of the fourth hit.

EHP is, always has been, and with current game design/philosophy and progression, always will be, absolute king for progress/hard hitting content.

And avoidance does nothing if you get chain hit through avoidance. More health does.

Comentado por kikc

Stop BoP'ing the damn tanks!

Comentado por Bllets

You should also think about this being a pre-Raid instance (it's a 5 man...), you most likely won't be using many items from this instance as a upgrade if you're already on General Vezax.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34473 was from a pre-raid instance aswell. But was still a awesome trinket.

I'm not saying this is as good as the trinkets from Ulduar. But the proc is awesome and the stamina isn't bad. I haven't seen a stamina trinket drop in Ulduar yet, so this is by far better then Essence of Gossamer or Valor Medal of the First War. The trinkets from Naxx10/25 really isn't worth using.

Comentado por 111007

Armor proc/trinkets are actually better now with the inspiration/fortitude change. Before you would only see a 3-4% mitigation increase with inspiration already up and this triggering, now you're looking at a 5-7% increase, depending on your base armor.

Comentado por 243202

Before raid buffs, using devotion aura, this proc takes me from 26, 388 armour (63.4 physical redux) to 33,444 (68.71 redux,) so personally its a 5+% reduction of physical damage which is incredible considering the stamina and high proc rate also.

63.4% reduction to 68.71% is a ~8.5% reduction in damage taken. From a 10k hit, you would take ~3,660 before the proc, and after the proc you would only be hit for around 3,129. Combined with Ardent Defender, this baby will allow me to take an extra hit from XT hard mode without heals when it procs, which will be nice as we bring the raid back to 2 healers.

Also, in these days of PuG'ing raids, the ~1500hp you gain from this trinket will help your chances of getting a raid spot. Even Naxx raids these days won't take a tank with less than 28k unbuffed, and this plus a Gossamer is the difference many PuG tanks will need to push them over the acceptable threshold.

EDIT:

Usually having good defensive stats will make up for the stamina by providing you with more avoidance, hence not having to be healed for so much/so often.

As a healer and a tank, I can safely say that healing a tank with 65% avoidance that can die in 3 hits if he gets unlucky is FAR harder than healing a tank with 40% avoidance but can eat 5-6 hits before biting the bullet. Avoidance is very nice, and a lucky avoidance streak will let you survive even the hardest enrages if your healers fall asleep, but you can't rely on them. HP and Armor is called EH, for Effective Health, and its how much you can lose without heals, and for progression (both cutting edge raiding, and simply taking on Heroics/Naxx if you have low gear by comparison) it is very important to prevent unlucky spikes instagibbing tanks.

I take a nice balance of EH and avoidance, and sit on about 57% avoidance raid buffed with 43k hp. If I avoid 6 hits in a row, I still have a Holy Pally spamming FoL on me continuously because if he stops, and I take some hits without avoiding any, we're in trouble.

Comentado por Cloud8690

Usually having good defensive stats will make up for the stamina by providing you with more avoidance, hence not having to be healed for so much/so often.

Avoidance results in spikey damage which is harder for healers to heal through due to the randomness. High health coupled with a healthy amount of avoidance is easier to heal because the damage seems to be more smooth and less spikey, easier to predict.

Comentado por 182184

I have seen trinkets drop from every boss except the first one so far. most likely will drop off of any and all. I have also seen two different trinkets drop in one run.

Comentado por Ferel

Still awesome trinket given how easy to obtain ! Normal instance... LAWL...

normal mode is nice, since you can farm nonstop until you get it.

...unless of course, it drops for everyone BUT you.

I haven't seen it once. 3 of my guildies ran it separately and it dropped for EACH of them on their first tries, 2 of whom were fellow tanks, and only one of them actually rolled on it.

20 times in 2 days... and counting... not even Naxx made me this sick...

Comentado por 220744

Perfectly itemised trinket for hard hitting melee bosses. The proc is fantastic.

Comentado por 45886

Out of any possible animation you could want as a tank for a trinket proccing..

WHY would they choose the LAST spell you want to see on you EVER?

Comentado por 243538

this and any Ulduar 10/25 stam trinket or the Monarch Crab (properly gemmed) are better than this and the gossamer... stam-wise AND considering trinket effects

EDIT: added links

Comentado por 120637

Kind of torn on this. My primary tanking trinkets tend are Heart of Iron and Royal Seal of King Llane, but I'm wondering if the armor proc is worth it for the loss of 29 stam. At even 25 percent up time (well, a little less if its 10 seconds almost every 45 seconds) it'd be worth it I think to mitigate damage. However, on the other hand, the Llane's trinket is a use for avoidance that lets you control it for "oh crap" moments.

Any thoughts?

Comentado por 149325

It took me about 20 or so runs to get this to drop yesterday. I think I saw every piece that can drop in Regular ToC before I finally got this. I was chain running this with PuGs, and every time someone would say, "I saw that drop about 5-8 times yesterday!" But I was just unlucky.

This finally replaced my Monarch Crab. Yes it has 39 less stamina because of the two Solid Dragon's Eyes, but those can be placed elsewhere.

After all was said and done and re-gemmed, I ended up being +20-30 stam overall. Very well worth the farming.

Comentado por Ssateneth

WHO BOP'D THE TANK?

Comentado por 172239

Question, I know this is a sweet trinket more or less, but isnt the armor procc suffer from diminishing returns like the engineer glove enchant?

Comentado por 384176

This is Amazing for tanking and in some Bgs when it proced My enemies ran away thinking i got Boped lol

Comentado por 84469

Done the instance 35 times maybe even more and still havent seen it even drop, nuff said :I

Comentado por Umega

I am a paladin tank with around 24000 armour, which gives me 61% physical damage reduction. When this trinket procs its gives me 67% physical damage reduction. Pretty damn nice.

Comentado por 441645

With Armed to the Teeth, 7K armor will yield warriors nearly 200 AP (195 to be precise).

As per my testings, the added Armor converted immediately into AP increase.

A nice little threat boost.

Comentado por 127537

This trinket is especially excellent for bosses that require tank-switching, such as Thorim, because the internal CD of the proc will usually be finished by the time you need to taunt. Thanks to the high proc rate, you then have a very good chance of getting the armor buff quickly after you taunt, which is right when it's usually the most helpful, as the healers are switching targets.

Comentado por SuperDino

Pallys, whatever you do stay away from this trinket!

the stamina may be amazing, the armor may go directly to your butt to keep it from being kicked but the first day (and im gunna go out on a limb and say FOREVER) You will think someone or somthing, quite possibly even yourself with a slip of the finger, used HoP on you!

(note, im joking, this is a great trinket, i suggest getting 4)

Comentado por 137161

But the truth of it is, with 35k health, I get hit for 20k, healed for 10k, hit for 20k, healed for 10k, hit for 20k, I'm dead. ... Having 6k extra health means I'm still alive at the end of that string.

No matter how much health or avoidance you have, it's always possible to die. You don't have to tell tanks that, they're very much aware =)

Avoidance and stamina are both good but for different reasons. Avoidance makes a bigger difference in the long term. Unless your avoidance is 100% it's possible that three consecutive attacks will hit you (that's where stamina comes in handy). To see the benefit you have to consider more than three attacks. Over the course of a fight you can be attacked hundreds of times and an increase in avoidance means that less of those attacks will land. The fewer attacks that land, the less damage you take, the less healing you require.

No tank gets two trinkets and says, "well, those are the only trinkets I'll ever need." Trinkets are very situational. For some fights this is a good trinket to have, for others it isn't. This trinket isn't superior to avoidance trinkets (like this one), it's just different. Get both.

Comentado por 886

I just managed to proc this while DPS'ing a target dummy o.O

Edit: Procced it again. It seems like it can proc whenever Mongoose procs.

Comentado por 444143

For prot warrior's spec'd into Armored to the Teeth, it's also and addition 194~ AP, if my math isnt faulty.

Im sure that was pointed out, but i didnt see a post on it

Comentado por Jrubzjeknf

This trinket is great for PvProt warriors. Whenever this procs, you can safely use Spell Reflect without anyone noticing. The Hand of Protection symbol is large enough to almost fully cover up the Spell Reflect symbol.

Edit: 3.2.2 will change the proc animation in a way that it does not resemble Hand of Protection any more. I will see if I can post a screenshot of the new animation soon.

Comentado por 446323

As a tank sice vanilla, I was keen to get this trinket to replace my Gossamer (or whatever its called), and had been farming TotC normal on and off since the launch of 3.2.

It finally dropped last night (with me tanking ofc), but the healer needed too and I lost the roll :( He even refused to trade it to me and immediately left the group.

To all non-tanks who want this trinket... Don't be a selfish idiot. If the tank needs it let them have it. If they don't, then by all means roll. If you duel spec tank like Darkmon claimed, then tank the instance (not heal or DPS it) if you want this trinket!

Anger now vented. Back to doing more TotC runs! Yawn.

Update: Grouped with some people last night for TotC normal (with me tanking). Explained I was only after the trinket (and also explained my ninja looting experience of the night before). Everyone agreed they would not roll if it dropped. It dropped! Death Knight (DPS) in group rolled Need. Won the roll and left the group! I ran the instance 10 more times that night. Trinket never dropped!

Oh well. I guess I'll try again tonight (cry)! Maybe I'll be Master Looter this time!

Update: Grouped with 3 paladins and a shaman last night with me tanking. Kept my fingers crossed the trinket would drop and the others would not roll need! It dropped on first run and everybody considered it was primarily tank loot and did not need. I'd like to thank the group for passing and not being complete %^&*s.

Thank the loot Gods I never have to run TotC ever again!(##RESPBREAK##)2056##DELIM##adashiel##DELIM##Naming and shaming removed.

Comentado por 249055

As an affliction lock in pvp with 26k health (o_O), this trinket works especially well against rogues, proccing right after they open up on me, mitigating much of the damage. Also useful against melee classes in general, which locks have trouble against.

Comentado por Norellicus

For anyone who may be wondering, this does NOT share a cd with Essence of Gossamer. You can have both buffs up at the same time.

Comentado por 446323

Remind me (Warrior Tank) to roll need on cloth gear, a wand (or whatever it is you use for a weapon), and maybe a spellpower trinket (just because it may have some Hit on it too) the next time they drop!

Comentado por 113229

This is an amazing trinket for a Discipline Priest. If you're glyphed for Inner Fire, when this thing procs it will give you at least 14,000 armor. Combine that with Pain Suppression and you will be very hard to burst down, even by several people.

Comentado por 452972

Items

The Black Heart: This item’s animation has been changed and no longer resembles Hand of Protection.

3.2.2 notes.

Don't downrate correct information, especially since people get alot out of this trinket's current animation in PvP.

Comentado por mihaitha

This is one of the best tanking trinkets in the game, and the ilvl 200 doesn't do it justice. It offers a passive (proc-based) armor boost (7k armor is roughly a quarter of the total armor I have as frost DK tank) plus a stam boost similar to the one given by heroic mode chest or leg drops. Allmost every tank on my realm (Executus EU) has this one.

The only problem seems to be the actual drop rate, i've farmed it for allmost 3 weeks and never seen it drop until I got it, and in all this time I've seen the other trinket, Banner of Victory, only drop once, while the other items the Black Knight drops were flying like crazy. So I suspect that these two trinkets do indeed have a slightly lower drop chance than the other items on the drop table.

It's a must-have for any tank, especially druids (in case the armor bonus from proc is affected by the bear form multiplyer - please confirm, is it?).

Comentado por iMathias

According to the 3.2.2 PTR patch notes the animation will be changed so it no longer resembles Hand of Protection.

Comentado por 460082

(Purged! D:)

Comentado por 68441

The graphic of this trinket is now that of activating Devotion Aura.

Comentado por Asherett

I'd love to see some solid math/reasoning comparing this to the brewfest trinkets (170 stamina, pretty much neglible use effects). Is the armor proc worth 48 stamina? I find it hard to believe...

Comentado por 242255

Useless info: 7056 is 84 squared.

Comentado por 483726

I notice many people have recorded high proc rates on this trinket. Before reading the comments I was under the impression it proc'd only about 6% of the time based on the uptime % of "Aegis" as recorded via WowWebStats.

Did the proc rate get nerfed at some point, or is uptime a misleading calculation...? The only way I can see uptime being misleading is if WowWebStats factors a player's entire "presence" in the raid as part of the calculation for % uptime, vs actual time in combat... however, I can't imagine they would overlook something as obvious as that. Any input would be much appreciated as this will affect my trinket choices! :D

Buffs

Actor......Up........Time......Applied
Aegis.....6 %......6'50''......41

Update 12/6/09: Still recording between 4 and 6% uptime on Aegis. One thing to keep in mind is that the better your gear gets (more specifically, the more avoidance you acquire), the less hits you will be taking, and thus, more time waiting for this thing to proc.

Edit: Update/Formatting

Comentado por Miwna

After slapping a heroic dummy for a while, I've noticed that it has procced several times.

Comentado por 331423

Just got it on my 22nd run of the night (about 30 runs total).

Was going to be my last run too, absolutely shattered. Couldnt believe it when it dropped!

Had a 79 Priest with us, he got 6 epic healing items in those runs so all in all, those 30 runs did some good.

Comentado por 401294

I have never seen a item ninjaed as much as this item, good luck to those who are farming it.

Comentado por 235651

I have the skeletal key, Satrina's impending scarab, and Purified onyxia blood talisman all 245++ and I still find myself using this a lot, only time i stack the scarab and key is when i know there is a lot of casters, otherwise this really beats the scarab in effective health, mix it with onyxia blood talisman for a full our physical dmg fight like Deathbringer surfang and it really rocks.

Also if your revered with ashen verdict, even tho the ring hardly ever procs when it does and this is up i have ~75% armor reduction as a paladin.

Comentado por 360150

It's completely random.

No it's not.

Running it more times doesn't increase your chances that it will drop.

Yes it will.

Comentado por 410971

Saw this trinket drop as I tanked through normal, I was happy for a second before 2 dps and our healer also rolled for it without saying a word, dps ended up winning it and immediately leaving the group. There is no honor it seems when it comes to this trinket, if you really want it dont run this dungeon with pugs.

Comentado por 539605

I finally was able to obtain this trinket on lucky run #13. I had not seen it prior to this, saw everything else, BoV about 5 times (never took it tanking). Please if you want this trinket, tank the instance. Please do not go in as a dps and need on the trinket. Build up your DPS gear to a respectable level, then if you want to tank - work on the pieces from there.

Comentado por 326684

Just in case anyone was wondering, Aegis procs from this item does not share any cooldowns with Frostforged Defender procs from Ashen Band of Endless Courage

Comentado por 440334

Arguably one of the best tanking trinkets at lv80 (If your like me and detest items with a passion) and still an iLv200 =/ Though what can you expect from a 5 man right? Oh yeah, you can expect from iLv219 gear (Ulduar 10 equiv iLv) to iLv232 gear, (Furious Glad / some uld25 equiv)

Comentado por 158727

This trinket is still my favorite trinket after going time and again into Icecrown Citadel. Until I get the trinket from Putricide, I will likely not be giving this up. Not even for everyone's Brewfest Trinket 2.0, the Corroded Skeleton Key.

Why are the trinkets from 5m ToC so well designed and the trinket from 10/25m ToC so awful?

Comentado por 481166

I have Run this at least 25 times, and its dropped twice. the First time i was in my dps gear and the tank and i agreed to just roll off and see who wins. When it dropped, THE RESTO SHAMAN, without explanation, needs it, wins, and leaves group. the time afterward i lost it to feral dps, but he was the tank in the first place but he had really low health so i took over.

Comentado por DenseGoo

This trinket knows when someone wants it and refuses to drop. I have done 58 runs in the past week, it has only dropped twice and I lost it both times to dps. I get the feeling that the 16% listed by wowhead has been altered to give me false hopes.

Comentado por 576020

I was wondering when it activates if it sounds like Devotion aura, anyone?
Thanks

Comentado por 504286

Maybe a noob question, but if you're in Dire Bear Form and this thing procs, will the armor also be increased by 370%?

downrate if you want, but at least give some usefull info.

Comentado por JackFellDown

I ran this place 34 times, and not once did I ever see this drop. No mistake about it, normal 5 man TOC and I tanked every instance. Ive been at it for a while now. I quit. Obviously so good they droped the % even more.

Comentado por 358691

I ran reg ToC about 8 times tonight on my DK tank, and saw 5 drops! I tanked every run and lost every Black Heart drop to either a dps or a healer, twice to hunters. I'm not mad, though. I've changed my policy on rolling... if I might possibly use something in the future, I'll roll on it. I'm also done tanking this instance, lol.

I'll try again tomorrow. This trinket is too awesome not to have, the ilvl sucks but who cares?

Comentado por peeweesweden

Every time a tank loses the roll for this to a hunter, God kills a kitten.

You know it's true.

Comentado por Eostare

12/05/2010- I've ran N ToC about 27 times in three days and it's never dropped for me. the 16% is complete BS. both Leggings of the Bloodless Knight and Girdle of Arrogant Downfall have the same drop rate and have lower drop counts than The Black Heart, but for some reason I've seen those two drop 5 times by now.

EDIT: added items for comparison (in drop rating), ran it a few more times as well.

EDIT2: Finally got it after 30 runs.

Comentado por 220156

Is it just my bad luck, or has anyone noticed a lower droprate than 16% as reported by this site? I must of ran through this instance about 20-30 times before I got my hands on this thing >,<

Comentado por 117813

If you consider farming this for your freshly dinged tank-class, get ready for a long farm. Not only is it a low drop percentage, the queues seems to be quite high on most battlegroups. And your biggest enemy while farming this: Leechers who queue as DPS only to need on tank-items. Pathetic, but true. ToC normal has probably the most of these nutjobs who are too lazy to farm gear to tank so they just steal items in front of tanks instead.

Comentado por iindigo

I must have been very lucky... got it on my second or third run.

It is indeed a very nice trinket. I personally haven't been able to notice it proccing and would appreciate something more visible, but oh well.

Comentado por 363599

I still use this trinket along with Corroded Skeleton Key while raiding ICC, and The Black Heart is godly for heavy physical damage fights like Festergut. My Prot Warrior has 30,337 Armor (66.57% Physical Damage Mitigation), and when The Black Heart procs, he goes up to 37,393 Armor (71.05% Physical Damage Mitigation), so the proc gives me 4.48% Physical Damage Reduction. That combined with the +Stamina on it, makes it have extremely high EH. It's a pity they keep coming out with crappy -35% Health Proc Tank Trinkets instead of making a ILvl 264+ version of The Black Heart.

Comentado por 622837

Its my lifeboat when i get dismantled . Great for pvp prot pally.

Comentado por 417750

Has anyone seen this drop since 3.3.5? I've run this thing 27 times, and haven't seen the tank trinket or the ArP trinket drop once.

Comentado por skip029

Did some testing, seems like it procs once every minute.

Comentado por tripod121

I'll have to say, good luck getting this trinket.

1st of all: Just about anyone can roll need on this, so be wary if your a tank farming this, be prepared to get ninjad.

You maybe might lose to a hunter, or even a priest, yep a priest :)

it's a much ninja'd item because:

It's a low drop rate
and everyone can need on it.

Whats ironic is i've seen people say "Yeah i've been ninja'd from this item alot of times too" when they ninja it.

in my opinion loot rule should go like this.

Main spec: Rolls need gets first priority.
Off-spec rolls need, gets next priority
No one needs, greed/disenchant.

Anyways, if you want to get the trinket more smoother;

1. Dont run with any plate wearers, usally their the ones who ninja the item the most.

2. Run with your guildies so you firmly can get the trinket if it drops.

3. Explain that you need the trinket in the dungeon, and maybe the other dps will be generous and let you have it.

4. I doubt number 3 will happen.

5. ?

But anyways yeah. tanks be careful out there.

edit: typos

Comentado por obiwaynekenobi

You know, I had gotten rid of this after I upgraded my trinkets; I regret it now since the bonus stamina can come in handy as others mentioned in some damage-intensive fights in ICC. I recently picked up the Essence of Gossamer from Heroic Azjol-Nerub again during a guild daily heroic, and I'm going to keep it now just in case I need the extra stam. My usual trinkets are the Corroded Skeleton Key and the Corpse Tongue Coin, but I figure if I need extra health for some fights (Festergut and Putricide come to mind) I'll swap out CTC for EoG (I don't have the patience to try and farm the BH again, and I'd feel bad anyways taking it from a new tank who needs it more than a 5.7K GS tank).

Comentado por 551455

This is a really nice trinket.
I'm a Moonkin and I use it for PvP. The stamina boost is useful and melees have a harder time getting through to me when it procs. And no, I did not ninja it :P

Comentado por Felfaadaern

Had a dps DK whine when I needed this, arguing that I was better geared than him. I told him, "by all means roll, and I will congratulate you if you win - but hey, at least I am tanking for it."

I won the roll, he whined some more, and I left with a sigh. Some people just don't get it.

Comentado por 564947

I'm not going to lie. As an ICC geared and experienced tank, I know how much stacking stam can be helpful in ICC for fester, rot. So, I recently farmed this and dropped the Ony Head trinket for it. Didnt truly need the def or parry off that thing anyway, and since i got this in conjuction with Corroded Skeleton Key, i have 45k unbuffed. best decision i think i EVER made. I enjoy being the highest HP tank in ICC. That 30% buff in there is amazing-with only that buff i have 58k health. average of 70k with full raid buffs.
This thing is easy to get, AND it WILL last you through ICC until you get that one trinket off 10man putricide, which gives a stacking stam buff up to 240 stam when u get hit.

Plus, DO NOT forget the proc. i go from 66% to 71% phsysical damage reduction when it procs. it doesnt seem like much but to the healers of festergut with 3 stacks of blight, its a huge reduction.

Comentado por 344145

Just had a Resto Shaman ninja this from me & everyone else calling him a ninja. I've decided to give up since it's the second time & just grab the badge dodge trinket.

Comentado por 266957

Had a scare and a relief from this trinket...
I am a Druid Bear Tank and I ran this dungeon about 15 times to get this trinket, was getting sick of the place so much I was considering leaving.
When the trinket dropped a DK in the group rolled need on it and won it, when I complained, he actually said "Oh, sorry, I did not know you needed it, I just wanted it for tank spec" and gave it to me. It was probably the most mature thing I've ever seen a pug DPS do.

This trinket is very very good for Druids because it's got 2 out of our only 3 mitigations, and in large numbers. The stamina is, lets be honest, a heck of a lot for a pre-raid ilvl 200 trinket, and the armor proc is one of the only ways druids can mitigate physical damage.

If only it had dodge on it as well, I'd be convinced it was itemized solely for Bear Druids. Anyway, make sure you get one, druid tanks, especially if you are recently 80. I've seen lots of druids with 90% 245 and 251 gears but still rockin' this trinket.

Comentado por 464832

Good trinket. Can take you deep into ICC25 Heroic encounters without much issue at all.

Comentado por Carnella

Very nice trinket.. Going to replace [Bitter Balebrew Charm with it for raiding. If it will ever drop ^^;

Comentado por 616836

This trinket epitomizes why Blizzard's loot system in LFD should be changed so ONLY tanks can roll need on tanking gear. So many poor tanks are bound to farming Reg ToC because of DPS that win TBH over them.

Comentado por 287965

Ran regular ToC 10x and this is what I've seen drop so far:
1.Tears of the Vanquished:4x out of 10.
2.Uruka's Band of Zeal :3x out of 10.
3.Handwraps of Surrendered Hope:3x out of 10.
4 Mantle of Inconsolable Fear:3x out of 10.
5.Drape of the undefeated:1x out of 10x.
6.Shoulderpads of the Infamous Knave:1x out of 10.
7.Girdle of the Pallid Knight:1x out of 10.
8.Helm of the Violent Fray:1x out of 10.
9.The Black Heart:0x out of 10
10.Abyssal Rune:0x out of 10
11.Belt of Merciless cruelty:0x out of 10
12.Girdle of Arrogant Downfall:0x out of 10
13.Leggings of the Bloodless Knight:0x out of 10
14.There were 3 more items that dropped but they were the same as that which already dropped.
Not to mention that queing regular Trial of Champion takes ridiculously long now even as Tank thanks to Cata. Not to mention I just entered one and the Healer bailed mid fight so then I bailed and now I'm hit with the dungeon deserter thing and cannot reque for 30 minutes. Not to mention the fact that it is also not allowing me to que for Bgs. So its glitched so now I have to logout and back in to que for Bgs. Not to mention that when it does finally drop I'll be rolling against ^&*!heads who have Tank as their offspec trying to roll on it over my main spec. Thx Blizz.

Comentado por Lindentree

This trinket has escaped the Great Armor Trinket Purge of Patch 4.0.6.

While trinkets with passive armor bonuses had their armor cut to around a quarter of their previous armor, the Black Heart's armor proc still comes out fairly insane.

Definitely best in slot now for Herald of the Titans tanks.

Comentado por 277202

I am still using this as a trinket at 85, it may be vastly behind on stamina, but considering the 7k armor which scales to be much more beneificial than most 85 trinkets this thing is still on par

Comentado por 870715

Why is this item called The Black Heart and its color is red ? (look at the icon)

Comentado por 865216

Although perhaps already stated, in the case of my Protection level 80 Warrior (as of Pandaria) this trinket grants approximately 14.5% physical damage reduction, on proc (this is calculated by my own stats and crunched numbers, I might have passive effects that increase that armor bonus more but I am unsure). Given I'm already at 68.5% physical damage reduction, this is a whammy; it brings me up to a total 83% physical damage reduction, which is great for solo boss fights, when Second Wind won't cut it and Victory Rush is unavailable mid-fight. This is definetly useful for situations where you already have a healer (I.E. a dungeon), you won't need a trinket on like Swift Hand of Justice (with the exception of bosses that include adds spawning that grant use of Victory Rush). In cases in which you are soloing tough boss fights, and no adds spawn, definetly use this trinket. If you are soloing multiple easy mobs or a pack of NPCs and a boss, I'd go with a trinket that causes a heal upon the killing blow of the adds. In any case, this is definetly worth-while for dungeoners in need of a significant armor increase, or the casual quester.

Comentado por MorganBlack666

Over 40 runs and it still hasn't dropped. That 2.48% drop chance is no joke.

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