Uncovering the Secrets of the Primal Incarnates: A Cinematic Analysis

Live Posted 2023/03/17 at 8:07 AM by DiscordianKitty

Secrets of the ReachSarkareth: The storm is receding. The reach is ours once again.Sarkareth of the Sundered FlameSarkareth: Take cover!
Dezran: Who are they, Sarkareth? Is it the Aspects?
Sarkareth: No. Raszageth's kin...Primal Incarnate Visage FormsTempest UnleashedVyranoth: The last echoes of her storm are fading. She is truly gone.
Fyrakk: We should be devouring her murderer's hearts.
Iridikron: Do not underestimate them, Fyrakk. Our sister's overconfidence was her downfall.Return to the War CrecheIridikron: While the Aspects' power has waned, their forces grow stronger. And we must even the scales.
Vyranoth: They kept so many secrets... from us... and even from each other.The Secrets They KeptAberrusIridikron: It is here. Neltharion's betrayal shattered their unity... left fissures in their hearts. Yet the pain he inflicted was only the beginning.
Vyranoth: Aberrus... his hidden laboratory.
Iridikron: One last secret, deep within the earth.is the name of Dragonflight's upcoming raid

Breach Neltharion’s secret laboratory hidden within Zaralek Cavern. It is here that he created the dracthyr and ultimately succumbed to the whispers of the Old Gods and their corruption.

Players will face nine new raid bosses in an effort to thwart the incarnates as well as Scalecommander Sarkareth, whose forces seek to claim the legacy of the dracthyr.

ClosingVyranoth: The location of Aberrus must lie within this vessel. I will decipher its knowledge.
Fyrakk: What use are Neltharion's twisted experiments to us?
Iridikron: The laboratory itself is of no consequence. But the molten fire that empowers it... that we can use.Sarkareth: Keep eyes on them, Dezran. Whatever remains of Neltharion's legacy... belongs to us.The Molten Fire... Old God-Empowered or just Really Hot?theorized before that Iridikron is already working with the Old Godsfifth Old GodSarkareth and the Primal Incarnates

Comment by Camio3495The Molten Fire... Old God-Empowered or just Really Hot?Comment by fathom81Remove the LIVE tag please, massive spoilers.Comment by ZephosRemove the LIVE tag please, massive spoilers.Comment by AlenoreRemove the LIVE tag please, massive spoilers.Comment by bluebird91Honestly, the new datamining is just more fuel for my theory that Iridikron is in fact a Light-empowered Earth dragon.

While Earth magic is often represented with light brown / gold colours, the light-ey-ness of Iridikron's magic seems to dial that up by a huge notch. Instead of re-shaping the Earth like we see from Black Dragons, Shamans, or the Hammer of Khaz'goroth, he makes the cave-in glow with golden light first before exploding it.

The Ice and Fire Incarnates dispatch Neltharion's guards in typical ice/fire ways, while Iridikron lifts them and vaporizes them with golden arcs of lightning. He also glows incredibly bright yellow while using that magic, very similar to how Light magic is depicted ingame. The cutscene focuses extensively on Iridikron's glowing golden hand several times. And if you listen closely, you can hear the high-pitched "sparkly" chiming sound that Priest / Pally holy spells make, similar to what Anduin's Wake of Ashes cast sounded like in the BfA cinematic.

The Ice and Fire Incarnates dragonforms look very similar to their Ice and Fire Protodragon World Boss counterparts, while Iridikron's model compared to the Earth Protodragon World Boss looks like an Earth dragon blown apart / held together by golden lightning (which suspiciously glows in his hollow chest and on his hand in visage form).

The Primal Earth enchantment/illusion from Dragonflight shows that Primal Earth powers are light brown, not bright yellow lightning. We have been to Deepholm, the Elemental Plane of Earth, before and it isn't a place of golden lightning. So the power of Iridikron and his followers seems to come from an alternate source of magic, not purely from the Earth.

Iridikron ordered Fyrakk to go underground and grow in power however he can.
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Kalecgos: Why usher Fyrakk below instead of going himself?compound of various coloursComment by pytnzpltrHonestly, the new datamining is just more fuel for my theory that Iridikron is in fact a Light-empowered Earth dragon.

While Earth magic is often represented with light brown / gold colours, the light-ey-ness of Iridikron's magic seems to dial that up by a huge notch. Instead of re-shaping the Earth like we see from Black Dragons, Shamans, or the Hammer of Khaz'goroth, he makes the cave-in glow with golden light first before exploding it.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dispatch Neltharion's guards in typical ice/fire ways, while Iridikron lifts them and vaporizes them with golden arcs of lightning. He also glows incredibly bright yellow while using that magic, very similar to how Light magic is depicted ingame. The cutscene focuses extensively on Iridikron's glowing golden hand several times. And if you listen closely, you can hear the high-pitched "sparkly" chiming sound that Priest / Pally holy spells make, similar to what Anduin's Wake of Ashes cast sounded like in the BfA cinematic.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dragonforms look very similar to their Ice and Fire Protodragon World Boss counterparts, while Iridikron's model compared to the Earth Protodragon World Boss looks like an Earth dragon blown apart / held together by golden lightning (which suspiciously glows in his hollow chest and on his hand in visage form).
The Primal Earth enchantment/illusion from Dragonflight shows that Primal Earth powers are light brown, not bright yellow lightning. We have been to Deepholm, the Elemental Plane of Earth, before and it isn't a place of golden lightning. So the power of Iridikron and his followers seems to come from an alternate source of magic, not purely from the Earth.

And now on to a PTR Spoiler:

The 10.1. campaign states the following:
Iridikron ordered Fyrakk to go underground and grow in power however he can.
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Kalecgos: Why usher Fyrakk below instead of going himself?Comment by TiwieThe primals unite to prepare for a fight but against what... :OComment by SquelettatrifalComment by 2391970.Comment by Xexji
(And as a bonus tidbit: Iridikron's name comes from the Greek "iris/irid" prefix which denotes a compound of various colours and is more commonly known from words like "iridescence", a light phenomenon).Comment by runicpowerthe molten fire is just really hot ... there is no old gods here :)Comment by LautnerOooof. Watching this cinematic, the whole time all I could think is how irrationally I hate Vyranoth's model. It gives me that uncomfortable uncanny valley feeling due to her resemblance to the Winter Queen.Comment by FoxeszWe can't help but recognize the parallels to the Blue Dragonflight, who also have ice powers and are associated with intellectual abilities.arcane breathComment by LightingfistFew things to consider. Fyrakk went to empower himself using the Molten Fire and came out infused with Shadowflame. This tells us that the Molten Fire is most likely infused with Old God energy. The origins of this seem to point toward the Zaqali and there connection to the primal powers. It even states in the dungeon journal that Rashok was being used as a syphon to power the crucible and that the Zaqali bargained with the Primal Incarnates. My guess is the Zaqali are the living embodiment of Azeroths primal energyComment by retisdeadwhen then ran out of new ideaComment by FranFlorenceI might be just seeing things, but just as frosty dragon resembles the Winter Queen, to me Fyrakk’s visage has some resemblance to Primus (crooked, big horns), and Iridikrons’s visage has Denathrius’ horns. Too bad we haven’t seen Rasz’s visage…Comment by GnarledoakHonestly, the new datamining is just more fuel for my theory that Iridikron is in fact a Light-empowered Earth dragon.

While Earth magic is often represented with light brown / gold colours, the light-ey-ness of Iridikron's magic seems to dial that up by a huge notch. Instead of re-shaping the Earth like we see from Black Dragons, Shamans, or the Hammer of Khaz'goroth, he makes the cave-in glow with golden light first before exploding it.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dispatch Neltharion's guards in typical ice/fire ways, while Iridikron lifts them and vaporizes them with golden arcs of lightning. He also glows incredibly bright yellow while using that magic, very similar to how Light magic is depicted ingame. The cutscene focuses extensively on Iridikron's glowing golden hand several times. And if you listen closely, you can hear the high-pitched "sparkly" chiming sound that Priest / Pally holy spells make, similar to what Anduin's Wake of Ashes cast sounded like in the BfA cinematic.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dragonforms look very similar to their Ice and Fire Protodragon World Boss counterparts, while Iridikron's model compared to the Earth Protodragon World Boss looks like an Earth dragon blown apart / held together by golden lightning (which suspiciously glows in his hollow chest and on his hand in visage form).
The Primal Earth enchantment/illusion from Dragonflight shows that Primal Earth powers are light brown, not bright yellow lightning. We have been to Deepholm, the Elemental Plane of Earth, before and it isn't a place of golden lightning. So the power of Iridikron and his followers seems to come from an alternate source of magic, not purely from the Earth.

And now on to a PTR Spoiler:

The 10.1. campaign states the following:
Iridikron ordered Fyrakk to go underground and grow in power however he can.
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Kalecgos: Why usher Fyrakk below instead of going himself?Comment by GhawnHonestly, the new datamining is just more fuel for my theory that Iridikron is in fact a Light-empowered Earth dragon.

While Earth magic is often represented with light brown / gold colours, the light-ey-ness of Iridikron's magic seems to dial that up by a huge notch. Instead of re-shaping the Earth like we see from Black Dragons, Shamans, or the Hammer of Khaz'goroth, he makes the cave-in glow with golden light first before exploding it.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dispatch Neltharion's guards in typical ice/fire ways, while Iridikron lifts them and vaporizes them with golden arcs of lightning. He also glows incredibly bright yellow while using that magic, very similar to how Light magic is depicted ingame. The cutscene focuses extensively on Iridikron's glowing golden hand several times. And if you listen closely, you can hear the high-pitched "sparkly" chiming sound that Priest / Pally holy spells make, similar to what Anduin's Wake of Ashes cast sounded like in the BfA cinematic.
The Ice and Fire Incarnates dragonforms look very similar to their Ice and Fire Protodragon World Boss counterparts, while Iridikron's model compared to the Earth Protodragon World Boss looks like an Earth dragon blown apart / held together by golden lightning (which suspiciously glows in his hollow chest and on his hand in visage form).
The Primal Earth enchantment/illusion from Dragonflight shows that Primal Earth powers are light brown, not bright yellow lightning. We have been to Deepholm, the Elemental Plane of Earth, before and it isn't a place of golden lightning. So the power of Iridikron and his followers seems to come from an alternate source of magic, not purely from the Earth.