Gold Making in Patch 10.0.5 - Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 263

Live Posted 2023/01/29 at 1:00 PM by SamadanPlaysWoW

SamadanFun DetectedI'm addicted to prospecting so much I 'm not even playing the game anymore

Not a space goat been prospecting r2/r3 serevite ores for 2 weeks now and it just felt good even if I'm not making much off of it. Anyone else feel the same?
No but yes lol Not prospecting but I'm like OMG DF is so much fun, I love it! Meanwhile ALL I'm doing is mining/herbing and fishing lol

hastalacheesta

Fishing is super fun now. Props to Blizzard.

It just feels worthwhile because there’s a new achievement tied to a toy, fishing is a part of the tuskaar renown, and there rare fish now too. It just feels more valuable

I got addicted to blacksmithing. I made my first million this week and I can’t stop developing my auto reply customer service weak aura that calculates required material ranks for users and pulls the price data from TSM and crap like that. Talking to the hundredth person about where to get a fiery soul etc. happy times.
In order to be profitable with prospecting you need to have as much skill, resourcefulness and inspiration as possible (in that order).

Skill increases both quality and yield from a single prospect. Resourcefulness obviously saves ores. Inspiration is there to push you from R2 to R3 if your skill is not high enough to get there without inspiration.

Bare minimum you need the following KP:

https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/jewelcrafting/BDlACC2uhZBe

And you can level up to at least 95 if you create a dragon hoard every few days (takes a long time, but is cheap to max the profession):

https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/jewelcrafting/BDlAAD2ufjCZBe

Multicraft is completely useless stat for prospecting and crafting speed only affects how long it takes to process a stack.

So the next tree to focus on provides general skill and resourcefulness to all crafts (including prospecting):

https://www.wowhead.com/profession-tree-calc/jewelcrafting/BAlAAD2ufjCZBelCBC2vge4Ei_e

Going into inspiration afterwards only if you really need to.
u/Crithappenz91
Really appreciate this sub and just wanted to say thank you.

Never cared about making gold, started playing wow in BFA, never had much gold.

Made flasks in SL and got to few million with that and the mission table. Have not much time to play DF due to exams but leveled Juwelcrafting, without any exploits or knowledge, missing some knowledge points for the first weeks.

Bought the lariat recipe mostly for myself and Friends, had no time to farm for it.

Started advertising to get back some money when i had more free time 12 days ago, after being hesitant about it as a rather shy person.

Since then i made over 5 Million gold Profit, roughly 500k/day. Most people are really nice and thankful for explanations. I just sit in valdrakken in the evenings and enjoy the interaction with ppl.

I craft 392 for free, 405 10k 415 15k. Returning customers get 50% off. Would do it for tips but i am afraid of mass reports and a automatic trade chat ban. Got the 1000 personal orders title 2 days ago.

I bought my friends things like the transmog yak or the black hammer recipe for their profession (without them asking, i asked a question about it, they farmed it with no luck, i just bought it for 75k). I am really thankful for all the ppl appreciating the crafters and for all the tips in this sub.

I dont really know what to do with (for me) so much gold, besides skip timegates like tuskaar rep with fish or wrathion/sabellian rep. Never played the AH.

Professions Ranked by PenguinPenguin2gtCasual Gold Making with an Alt Armyu/hopeaintopii
TLDR: Get to 60 -> Fully allocate Transmutation sub-spec -> Use cooldowns -> Start another character

I'm in my thirties with a full-time job, a wife, kids - basically the busiest time of my life. Not only are my online hours limited, they're also split and splintered unevenly throughout the day especially now that the holidays are over. I might get 15 minutes here and there, two more minutes while waiting for a work project to load up, and so on.

I love the new crafting system but quickly found out I have no way to keep up with knowledge points or renown levels. Instead, I decided to focus on virtually guaranteed means of income selling items with no quality levels. After trying out various things I settled to three ways of making gold:

Alchemy transmutations (Awakened Air/Earth)
Dragonriding world quests (bi-weekly)
Feral Hide Drums

Both transmutations and dragonriding WQs have timed limitations, making them perfect candidates for utilizing multiple characters. At the time of writing this I've already given up on the drums as the profits are too thin for my taste and they depend largely on buying during cheap days and selling during busier days. I made roughly 100 000 g profit with them.

Gold made
I currently have 4 days left on my token, with 507 987 gold made across my 12 characters on this specific realm. 8 of them are currently alchemists, and 10 are level 60+. As I mentioned ~100k is from drums and I've stopped making them. Still plenty enough to buy an EU token each month.

Alchemy
You currently need level 60 to unlock everything needed. Once an alt is level 60, I follow the following steps:

Use main city portal to Valdrakken and get alchemy
Level up to 25 skill (https://www.wowhead.com/guide/professions/alchemy/leveling-dragonflight)
Gather up 25 knowledge points. I usually get the grandmaster points (+5), the treasures in Waking Shores (+6), the treasure in Ohn'Ahran planes (+3) and the treasures in Thaldraszus (+6). Sometimes I do the profession questline for +4 points from the shards. Any remaining points are from first time crafts while leveling up alchemy. This step is far from optimized, I just wing it with each alt
Level up to 50 skill (same guide as earlier), buy transmute air from the trainer, buy transmute earth from the AH
Allocate 5 points in Alchemical Theory, and 20 points in Transmutation
Then it's simply a matter of logging in every 2-3 days and using every transmutation cooldown!

Dragonriding WQs
All you need is world quests unlocked and level 60 to do them. Time or rank does not matter - all you need to do is finish. Each of them are worth ~510 gold and take roughly a minute to complete. You get 4 at a time and they reset every 3 or 4 days. These are a great way to start as setting up alchemy takes some gold.

Additional info

But gathering / crafting / <younameit> is better GPH! I'm sure they are, but they also have risks involved and require much more time online. My method is virtually foolproof (for now *fingers crossed*) and after the initial setup only requires a brief login. I can log in, buy transmute materials, go afk, come back 5 hours later and do the transmutations. Or I can start flying towards a dragonriding WQ if I have 30 seconds to spare, and complete it once I have a minute to spare. Customers waiting for a recraft on their gear might get angry if I just disappear
How to level up characters? I level up solo doing quests. I can highly recommend Harldan's route https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gMy9THrOzhlZTyVYZNWzS-C1fyQy-GTnWz6miNsTbu0/edit
Dungeon boosting / timewalking / cobalt assembly / gimmick number n is faster for leveling! I have been awfully unlucky with any kind of dungeon runs lately - even if I did have some time I get a work call, or the baby wakes up, or reason x stops me. Solo questing is always steady progress no matter how little I get done :)
How many characters do you need/is optimal/is too many? I will continue making alts until it takes me significantly more than 30 minutes to do all my alchemy cooldowns. If you have the time to spend hours doing transmutations and WQs, you're most likely better off doing actual crafting
You should add tailoring cooldowns! And engineering! Personally I feel like R1 chrono/azure cloth profits are razor thin and not worth it. Engineering might work, but again, I feel like spending any available time to bring more alts to 60 and transmuting will be most efficient in the long run
You can enter Valdrakken at level 58! Sure, and feel free to do so. My preferred leveling route takes me to 60 comfortably, and I believe 58-60 is a matter of 15 minutes or so. While alchemy can be learned at level 58, world quests require level 60. By entering at 60 I'm sure I can do WQs even if I don't level up alchemy right away

Good luck everyone!

Notes since the last post

There's usually one or more quick (<1 minute) dragonriding WQ right next to a flight path - these are the only ones I've been doing. Start flying, afk while waiting --> less than minute to complete the race --> HS to Valdrakken. ~1 minute of active gameplay for 510-540g. 32 000 g / hour if you want to make a clickbate youtube video!
Awakened elemental market has been all over the place lately and I'm glad I pushed several of my alts to 50 and unlocked fire, air and earth transmutes. Going forward, I'm going to push all my future alts to 50 as well. Spending some extra gold now is worth it when I can do any of them all expansion
Tailoring cooldowns have been doing somewhat better, and some of my alts now have either azure or chrono bolt unlocked
I am going to be making some of my future alts scribes & engineers. Skill 25 & 25 KP unlocks treatises and soul inhalers. With the cap of 4 public work orders per day, these have been going for 200-300g each. I strongly suspect the cap is too low right now and blizzard will increase it shortly, but variety is variety

Once again, this is not the most effective way or highest gph. But it's making me steady gold, and I sure am glad I don't have to care about any of the weekly profession quests or if I have enough knowledge points!
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Comment by pawpurr
I got addicted to blacksmithing. I made my first million this week and I can’t stop developing my auto reply customer service weak aura that calculates required material ranks for users and pulls the price data from TSM and crap like that. Talking to the hundredth person about where to get a fiery soul etc. happy times.Comment by zomgzgold being hyper inflated is a huge win for blizzard. it intimidates newer players into buying tokens instead of learning one of twenty overly convoluted money making methods in order to keep up.

where as on classic you mainly did your dailies or farmed a certain item to make money. systems really are designed with pushing the token.Comment by avatarofshadowI'm selling what used to be vendor trash grey items for thousands or even tens of thousands of gold. if you're not making money this patch, you're not tryingComment by drjo93gold being hyper inflated is a huge win for blizzard. it intimidates newer players into buying tokens instead of learning one of twenty overly convoluted money making methods in order to keep up.

where as on classic you mainly did your dailies or farmed a certain item to make money. systems really are designed with pushing the token.Comment by Civil4794
I got addicted to blacksmithing. I made my first million this week and I can’t stop developing my auto reply customer service weak aura that calculates required material ranks for users and pulls the price data from TSM and crap like that. Talking to the hundredth person about where to get a fiery soul etc. happy times.Comment by kevmauldinEven doing just SL mission tables can still bring in quick gold on alts you haven't leveled past 60 if you use the TL:DR missions add on. Just remember to pick up the get 1000 anima quest every week netting 1300g with little effort. Put equipment as top priority since most stuff you get sells for 60g+, i like to have reputation 2nd because the paragon caches still give 3000g+, then gold and anima. If you don't have a metric crap-ton of anima still stocked up from SL then put anima first priority to fund your table.Comment by retisdeadall of these are useless/

boosting.
matt farming.
2x4 groups/.

only 3 ways for making gold.

the seccond one is $%^&edup because of third one

farming is almost dead in wow because blizz wont let you do solo farmComment by mark34932One of my small joys in life is reading the wowhead economy weekly, because it's always filled with comments of people saying...... BLIZZ MADE GOLDMAKING LIKE THIS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY TOKENS!

or

CRAFTING IS DEAD

or any number of other complaints about how its impossible to make gold

Well, all I do to make gold is afk craft some mats/reagents/consumables for about 30 minutes a day, and I make around 500-800k a week.....sooooooooo it can't be that hard.

Did you ever consider that YOU might be the problem, and not the game?Comment by Gesika6"hastalacheesta said:
Fishing is super fun now. Props to Blizzard.

It just feels worthwhile because there’s a new achievement tied to a toy, fishing is a part of the tuskaar renown, and there rare fish now too. It just feels more valuable."

Uh, who's gonna tell him?... I guess I will. You could get plenty of fun achvs from fishing, and tons of toys ever since at least Legion, but I suspect even before that...Comment by SchattensangOne of my small joys in life is reading the wowhead economy weekly, because it's always filled with comments of people saying...... BLIZZ MADE GOLDMAKING LIKE THIS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY TOKENS!

or

CRAFTING IS DEAD

or any number of other complaints about how its impossible to make gold

Well, all I do to make gold is afk craft some mats/reagents/consumables for about 30 minutes a day, and I make around 500-800k a week.....sooooooooo it can't be that hard.

Did you ever consider that YOU might be the problem, and not the game?Comment by mark34932One of my small joys in life is reading the wowhead economy weekly, because it's always filled with comments of people saying...... BLIZZ MADE GOLDMAKING LIKE THIS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY TOKENS!

or

CRAFTING IS DEAD

or any number of other complaints about how its impossible to make gold

Well, all I do to make gold is afk craft some mats/reagents/consumables for about 30 minutes a day, and I make around 500-800k a week.....sooooooooo it can't be that hard.

Did you ever consider that YOU might be the problem, and not the game?Comment by elicie
CRAFTING IS DEAD
oversaturatedfarming shards at dirt diggingComment by Rellyne"enganing with people" and we talk about setting up automated response system lol.

But nothing new, just the same old "rich gets richer". You have a lot of gold (by any means, there are plenty of multiboxing, bot, etc.), spend some of it to get ahead of the rest, receive 3 times that gold and get ready for the next wave (next patch or next expansion). On top of that you have the system exploiters (knowledge/artisan rep ones) that get away with a huge leap ahead on recipes, etc.

There were even Public Work Order bots...

The lariat recipe is the best example of that. Really low drop rate and the few that dropped it, not being JCs, tried to sell for millions and insta sold it. Imagine who can pay 7+ million gold on a recipe and basically triple that back in a day by being one of the few crafting it, lol.

Gathering and fishing is basically the same as before but somehow now "it's superfun and engaging". Meanwhile all I see is that stack of "samenameA"/"samenameB"/"samenameC"/"samenameD"/"samenameE" stacked fishing, gathering, skinning (or killing elementals).

You report those multiboxers, report the clear bots (like the "cast statue"+"cast spinning kick" monk bots in the "Pressure Valves" WQ area), etc. nothing happens.

You try to not care about it and do your thing. "Oh, maybe I can offer the crafting of the itens that will help level my profession for freet" so I can entice the people that don't care about high level stuff yet to craft it and give me those and you get mass reported (or receive some really bad whispers/mail) and a nice auto-ban.

Blizzard tried to do a new thing with the revamp, but still failed on the same problems while creating new ones that now they need to think how to solve.

Meanwhile most people just wanna do their raids, m+, etc. and have to deal with so much crap from these crafters...

At least dragonriding kinda screwed the bots a little.Comment by RellyneOne of my small joys in life is reading the wowhead economy weekly, because it's always filled with comments of people saying...... BLIZZ MADE GOLDMAKING LIKE THIS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BUY TOKENS!

or

CRAFTING IS DEAD

or any number of other complaints about how its impossible to make gold

Well, all I do to make gold is afk craft some mats/reagents/consumables for about 30 minutes a day, and I make around 500-800k a week.....sooooooooo it can't be that hard.

Did you ever consider that YOU might be the problem, and not the game?Comment by elicieBut nothing new, just the same old "rich gets richer". 101% not truthstupid goldComment by elicieConsidering that most people did not play the beta, did not read good guides (so many guides from big sites saying that the inspiration tree of the professions were to not waste points on it) and had to do it by trial and error on live...Comment by Rellyne
CRAFTING IS DEAD
oversaturatedfarming shards at dirt diggingComment by RellyneConsidering that most people did not play the beta, did not read good guides (so many guides from big sites saying that the inspiration tree of the professions were to not waste points on it) and had to do it by trial and error on live...Comment by RellyneBut nothing new, just the same old "rich gets richer". 101% not truthstupid goldComment by avatarofshadowpersonally, it's nice to be able to buy crafted gear for slightly more than the vendor price. i feel like the new crafting broke a lot of people.