How Dragonflight Professions Work - Wowhead Economy Weekly Wrap-Up 245

Dragonflight Posted 2022/09/18 at 1:00 PM by SamadanPlaysWoW

SamadanDragonflight Professions & How they WorkManthieus how reputations workSo there has been lots of talk about how reputations are going to be "friendlier" in Dragonflight but after some testing I can see that this is not an "equal for all" situation.

Today I published the first in a new series covering the new major factions in Dragonflight, The Dragonscale Expedition.

I wanted to take a deeper look into these new Factions as they hold many of the patterns crafters are going to be seeking once the game launches. I spent the weekend leveling it to max to get the best understanding I could.

Let me explain what I think Blizzard's logic is with reputations;
Renown levels are character specific and you will start at zero with each character. But all non-power gaining rewards will be unlocked for all toons. For example once, you have unlocked the Expedition Metal Detector on one character, there will no longer be the renown 21 requirement to purchase it on alts. Power gaining rewards will need to be unlocked on whichever character wishes to buy them. Examples of Power gaining rewards are all Armor, Weapons & Profession Patterns.

While I was maybe slightly naïve to think that leveling a reputation on my main would grant my alt with a different professions access to unlocks "earnt" for that faction, It has at least proven to me that Professions are going to be a BIG investment from all angles.

Thoughts?New Player Struggling to Understand the EconomyWoW Tokenu/Alejandro8092 asks
I recently started player and discovered that you can buy wow token using gold. I started looking on youtube many ways of getting gold, even installed Worthit addod and started farming some old mats. More specefically I farmed primal air and spirits of harmony. It was very successful the firts times, but then it became a nightmare to sell with all that bots in AH undercuting everything and lowering the price.

I'm so afraid I won't be able to reach 300k gold by the end of motnh because i have more than 150k gold on items but can't sell them, I always get undercut...

Also discovered that raw gold is no longer an option because everything is so nerfed to the point where 2k per horu would be insane to rech 300k...

WorthIt addon says I can make 9k gold/h but i got there and got nearly 100g, literally.

At this point I don't knwo what else to do, I don't want to rely on AH because I hate people there... but there is no other option, raw gold is dead as far as I see... Tried Heart of Fear LFR and got me around 1.5k per hour + spirits of harmony, but can't even sell them and have more than 150 spirits that are always being undercut.

Any suggestions on how to reach 300k or any raw gold still semi-viable?
Heres my two cents.

It takes a little time to understand the economy in wow. But most importantly, you need to understand that you will get burned out if you think everything will go the way the youtube videos tell you.

You need to enjoy the journey of making gold.

Adressing your points:

1.- Many items are sold region wide. So people with bots will take advantage of this. The motes will sell eventually but be patient.

2.- Doing callings everyday with multiple alts is great. You get better every day and invest alot less time in it.

3.- The bigger the realm, the bigger the competition. Check out some smaller realms to sell some profesion item that are not sold region wide.Okay first off, and I cannot stress this enough, content creators are not making content to help you. They benefit from clicks and views, and you have clearly been led astray by outdated if not outright bad advice.

Next, stop dismissing everyone you don't like as a bot. You would be astounded at the time and energy people will spend for very little gold in this game, and your competition is far more likely to be many people doing the same thing you're doing at the same time you're doing it. Rant about hating people all you want, but you're doing a disservice to yourself by getting angry at people in a video game that are, again, doing the exact same thing you are.

The best raw gold "farm" right now is max level alts that plow through callings with ZM gear (be it the 229 greens, 226 BoAs, or whatever) and mission tables. You can easily pay your sub fee with this in NA, I don't claim to know anything about the EU token prices.

If you're going to go farm something, farm something people actually want. Ask yourself what materials are actually being used right now, and go get those - this typically means picking a shadowlands zone and doing laps picking herbs and mining. I honestly have no idea why people are still farming obscure elemental bits from expansions in ages past - The exception is if you're turning those region-wide commodities into something someone would actually want to buy on your realm ah, like a skygolem, etc.

As you've discovered, sell rate is just as important as sale price, and gathering materials with a high price but a low sell rate isn't going to make anyone rich.Going to agree with the person here who mentions diversifying. You're talking about two methods of making gold, spirits of harmony, and raw gold in dungeons.

There are so many other methods / items - and you're going to have to learn what works for you, your attention span, and your server. You mention bots - there are lots of regular legit people who constantly post all day and they're not bots. Don't even make them a part of your equation. With region wide auction house you're going to be undercut almost immediately on every commodity anyway. It has nothing to do with bots. Post your items for the price you think is fair / you want for them and then forget about them.

If you're really out of ideas and are going to rely on YouTube videos, my suggestion is to make sure they're older but still relevant. The thing about those videos is that you're most certainly not the only person out there looking to make gold, and if you're doing the same thing as everyone else, that's not going to net you very much profit.

Guaranteed gold? Almost not even a thing for players who are new to gold making - except covenant tables, and daily covenant callings. It's easy gold for little time.

Speaking of time, take some to figure out what you enjoy doing. You'll be more likely to stick with it. Consistency is key. Spend some time on the oribos exchange and see what's being posted to your server, for what prices. See if there's a niche you can wiggle yourself into. Don't like crafting? Then don't do it. Prefer to spend your time in dungeons and raids? Then check out what transmog is missing from your server, and see if you can get RNG to work in your favour. I personally give each activity an hour or so and then move on to a new activity. Not because I have to, but because it's how I enjoy playing and that's how I keep things fresh. If you prefer to herb/mine/skin for 30+ hours to make your gold, then find out where supply / demand balance out and farm that. You don't have to be the cheapest, you just have to be able to find a demand for what you're trying to sell.

It takes time. There is no instant gold method unless you're buying tokens from the Blizzard store. Goblins who offer up advice have been doing this for a long time, learning the market, taking in data, and all the rest. Give yourself some patience and room to make mistakes. You're new, and we were all new once. Expecting a brand new player to the game who has never made gold to suddenly be buying a token their very first month with zero investment or knowledge about how to make gold is expecting a lot. It's not impossible, but it's a lot.Guide to Using TSM to Filter Groups of Items u/Woorah
Given many of the recent changes to the auction house, scanning large groups of items for potential deals using TSM can be a frustrating exercise with throttling making scans of 100+ items incredibly slow.

Many people will therefore manually go through their shopping lists and strip out items they feel are not worth the time scanning for - carefully inspecting the tooltip for each item to decide whether to include or exclude it from the search.

For me - in order to make my scan groups more focussed specifically on the items I feel have the best possible returns, I like to use TSM's inbuilt functionality to filter out items with lower sales rate or sale values - breaking searches into more manageable chunks.

I find these tools extremely useful, but I don't think many people are currently aware they even exist, so I put together a bit of a guide (with a worked example) of how you can use these filters to narrow down or refine your own lists/groups of items to scan for when you are hunting out deals.

Hopefully some people find it useful.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/exqnjunkeloa6sa/TSM%20Group%20Filtering.pdf?dl=0

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Comment by ThomaThis week much better gold tips for the players and useful info. Keep up this good workComment by schmilblickAn entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.Comment by TheNaturalAn entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.Comment by schmilblickAn entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.

introducing and entire talent systemthe largest expansion landmass we've ever hada new class and race.

In your other comments you complain quite a bit about crappy systems and now you're mad that they're gone?

Did you hate the first 5 expansions when all you had was leveling, one new raid, a couple of talents, and a handful of dungeons?Comment by pawpurrProfessions are still wonky in beta right now so it's really hard to tell, but it seems like nodes don't give you much stuff per tap, and sometimes they're annoyingly placed up unwalkable cliffs etc (I assume this is for the rock climbing minigame?) -- I tried to do mining and JC while levelling naturally, and it's pretty much impossible, I think I got maybe 10 JC skill by the time I was unlocking mining spec talents. The tuning feels similar to shadowlands' economy at the start, where leggos took huge amounts of mats and refining time to get to. If it stays like that, it's gonna be a gatherer's market again.Comment by GreengrovegrannyAn entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.Comment by the9tailAn entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.Comment by s0515033An entire expansion focused on professions and flying, this doesn't look promising at all.Comment by lovelywaz
And removing systems bloat, introducing and entire talent systemComment by ElunarioBlizzard should block action house addons like TSM at least in the first weeks after a new expansion release. Tools like this do an excessive amount of auction house parses and affect server performance negatively for a majority of the players, only for the purpose that a few can make more gold.Comment by KathelyMardBlizzard should block action house addons like TSM at least in the first weeks after a new expansion release. Tools like this do an excessive amount of auction house parses and affect server performance negatively for a majority of the players, only for the purpose that a few can make more gold.