Glide Will Be Removed as a Potential Trigger for Momentum in Future Dragonflight Build

Dragonflight Posted 2022/08/26 at 6:02 PM by perculia

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TLDR - Glide will be removed as one of Momentum’s trigger skills in a future update.Thank you to those willing to discuss Glide’s inclusion as a potential trigger for Momentum. While we knew it could be a controversial addition, player discussion around the topic has helped paint a clearer picture of the ways in which it could be fun and also the ways in which it could cause problems or frustration. Most reactions to Glide on Momentum were negative, and ultimately we agree that the downsides would probably outweigh the benefits and Glide will be removed as a potential trigger skill.Momentum has historically been very divisive, with many players strongly loving or hating it. A talent tree is an ideal system for such an ability to exist, as an option. With that in mind, a capstone position puts a greater emphasis on Momentum than it should have, and so Momentum will be swapping positions with Essence Break. Essence Break will be modified in a way to further emphasize its intended identity as a medium cooldown controlled burst option.Your continued feedback on Demon Hunters in the Alpha test is greatly appreciated and helps guide future iteration. Cheers.

We agree to the extent that a 2nd charge of Fel Rush (and for Vengeance, Infernal Strike) should be more easily accessible than in its current position on the Havoc spec tree, and so the talent Hot Feet will be moving to the class tree in the first row center position where the talent ‘Master of the Glaive’ is now.

Master of the Glaive’s effect will be combined back into the talent ‘Debilitating Cuts’ and renamed back to ‘Master of the Glaive,’ matching the Shadowlands talent version.

Atrayen: What moves to Hot Feet’s former spot? A new talent modifying Throw Glaive will be taking its place, the details of which will be available in a future build.While on the topic of talent placement and what talents go where, we’ve been following discussions and planning changes. Instead of responding to every current related comment, you can refer to the below image to see what Havoc’s tree is likely to look in the next update:

image 528×579 105 KB We really do appreciate your continued play, discussion, and feedback, and we hope you will continue to share it with us as we move forward. Cheers.

Comment by kanegasiGlide will be removedComment by LadylewindGlide will be removedComment by FeliciamarieGlide will be removedComment by SkyreiGlide will be removedComment by lycan2020Why did they think it was a good idea to have it be a trigger in the first place?Comment by RasaricVery promising to see the devs admit how radically people feel towards momentum. Removing glide plus the change in position on the talent tree should allow us to avoid it all together now without feeling like we're scuffed without it. As long as the devs don't accidently make it bis, momentum will be completely avoidable.Comment by SimplessAgreed with Rasaric, I get some DH players like Momentum but I just will avoid it entirely on my DH alt - hopefully its not BIS for single targetComment by AsutoriI cannot stress enough that I DESPISE using fel rush for damage. If I had to play DH using fel rush for damage or not play the game I would delete the game and never log on again.

For this reason even though I was a DH mythic raiding main I threw my DH in the garbage once I had to take unbound chaos over glaive tempest.

The one month I tried to force myself to play that build ended up ruining the class for me so much I cant even think about playing it without being angry. I regret all the reputation and transmog I farmed on it.

Hoping Evoker will be good because ill atleast be able to enjoy some of the only things I miss from DH like glide.Comment by NatakutdhI cannot stress enough that I DESPISE using fel rush for damage. If I had to play DH using fel rush for damage or not play the game I would delete the game and never log on again.

For this reason even though I was a DH mythic raiding main I threw my DH in the garbage once I had to take unbound chaos over glaive tempest.

The one month I tried to force myself to play that build ended up ruining the class for me so much I cant even think about playing it without being angry. I regret all the reputation and transmog I farmed on it.

Hoping Evoker will be good because ill atleast be able to enjoy some of the only things I miss from DH like glide.Comment by hamhelth213Very promising to see the devs admit how radically people feel towards momentum. Removing glide plus the change in position on the talent tree should allow us to avoid it all together now without feeling like we're scuffed without it. As long as the devs don't accidently make it bis, momentum will be completely avoidable.Agreed with Rasaric, I get some DH players like Momentum but I just will avoid it entirely on my DH alt - hopefully its not BIS for single targetComment by finearVery promising to see the devs admit how radically people feel towards momentum. Removing glide plus the change in position on the talent tree should allow us to avoid it all together now without feeling like we're scuffed without it. As long as the devs don't accidently make it bis, momentum will be completely avoidable.Agreed with Rasaric, I get some DH players like Momentum but I just will avoid it entirely on my DH alt - hopefully its not BIS for single targetComment by d4rkcenturionThe comments that this is a good thing is ridiculous... this hasn't changed the talent. If it is BIS, then it still is. If this makes you do enough damage to sacrifice other talents, then it will be taken by top DHs. The argument that glide makes it more pickable, means that you DON'T have to be as strategic with it. Glide is the easiest thing to incorporate into your damage, just jump while pressing immo aura, or blade dance if youre worried about FACING your target. Honestly, the arguments here are downright silly. I have played DH since release, and always hated momentum, I've raided mythic with it, and it felt horrid. Glide actually made me excited for the talent to see use as it wouldn't need 2 abilities to be used to reliably to proc it, without being out of position, in m+ it basically just certified itself as a no use talent because of the possibility to ninja pull packs. If the community hates it so much, remove it, but DON'T remove ACCESSIBILITY from a talent. All this has done has made it harder for people to play DH optimally, it hasn't changed whether the talent itself is optimal.Comment by joey564You dont like pressing Fel Rush, play a Warrior or Rogue..Comment by finearYou dont like pressing Fel Rush, play a Warrior or Rogue..Comment by SadeWrathI don't get why it was changed from fel blade in the first place.Comment by kodora1316You dont like pressing Fel Rush, play a Warrior or Rogue..Comment by RasaricYou dont like pressing Fel Rush, play a Warrior or Rogue..Comment by riiannI don't get why it was changed from fel blade in the first place.Comment by QuazarThese are excellent changes! I’m glad to see a response and implementation of feedback so quickly to the feedback :)Comment by avatarofshadowby the time the expansion comes out, they will have removed all the dragons because they're OP