Discipline Priest: First Impression of the New Priest Talent Trees in Dragonflight

Dragonflight Posted 2022/07/28 at 6:00 AM by AutomaticJak

To learn about the best PvE talent builds in Dragonflight for this class, and export these builds into the game, please check out our Discipline, Holy, and Shadow Priest class guides:
Discipline Priest Talent BuildsHoly Priest Talent BuildsShadow Priest Talent BuildsPriest Dragonflight Class TreePriest Dragonflight Talents - What’s New?Mind BlastShadow Word: DeathRenewPrayer of MendingPrayer of MendingPower InfusionTwins of the Sun PriestessFadeTranslucent ImageUnwavering WillFlash HealSmitePower Word: LifeRenewBenedictionPrayer of MendingPriest Dragonflight Talent Tree - First ImpressionsPurge the WickedShadow Word: PainPrayer of Mendingcast timeShadowfiendMindgamesAtonementCrystalline ReflectionShadowflame PrismlooksAtonementmustAtonementDiscipline Priest Spec Talent TreeDiscipline Dragonflight Talents - What’s New? AtonementPower Word: ShieldSolatiumIndemnityShadow CovenantShadow CovenantPenanceShadow CovenantPurge the WickedShadow Word: PainThroes of PainPurge the WickedShadow CovenantAtonementLight's WrathMindgamesPenancePurge the WickedPower of the Dark SidePenanceHarsh DisciplineAtonementEvangelismLeniencePower Word: BarrierLenienceInnervateEnlightenmentInner Light and ShadowDiscipline Priest Dragonflight Talent Tree - First ImpressionslooksAtonementAtonementDiscipline Priest Dragonflight Talents for Raiding - How Strong is It?

View in Dragonflight Talent CalcAtonementEvangelismLight's WrathMindgamesPower Word: BarrierLeniencePenanceRaptureSchismPenancePower Word: RadiancePain SuppressionExaltationAtonementRaptureSpirit ShellPrayer of MendingBenedictionAtonementHoly NovaPower Word: RadiancePain SuppressionRapturePower Word: RadianceAtonementAtonementLenienceCrystalline Reflection

Comment by domi1294I think the cast time on prayer of mending was removed in this weeks alpha build (correct me if I'm wrong)Comment by SaadiaWasn't wicked star supposed to silence like Anduin's one? Tooltip doesn't show that anymore, but it was in Blizzard's preview.Comment by XhandrilWasn't it stated in Alpha Build 44795, that they removed the casttime of Prayer of Mending?Comment by uwuayayaNot taking life grip ඞComment by LirendelHard agree. Though the PoM cast time being changed was done after this was written, I don't think it would change much would it? Nicely written.Comment by wallrochaThat is ALOT of new buttons! can they unbloat Disc and Shadow Priest already?Comment by FrenchKissI agree with the analysis. On the other hand, I have some disagreement with the specialization tree.

Not taking Castigation, Rapture and Stolen Psyche seems very weird to me.
So I would remove: Dark Indulgence (1pt), Harsh Discipline (1pt) and Lesson of Humility (2pts), to take Rapture (1pt), Castigation (1pt) and Stolen Psyche (2pts).

Castigation is a solid overall damage upgrade and looks better than Dark Indulgence.
Also, Harsh Discipline doesn't look good. We want a controlled damage burst, not a random one.
Stolen Psyche also looks better than Lesson of Humility. 20% damage on a burst spell is better than 20% on Smite with the added condition of having 3 expiations active. Considering that the damage is only really significant during the burst phase following the ramp.
Rapture is just too powerful to ignore.Comment by GaabThat is ALOT of new buttons! can they unbloat Disc and Shadow Priest already?Comment by iettloppThat is ALOT of new buttons! can they unbloat Disc and Shadow Priest already?Comment by LinaI really hope discipline gets to be viable in DF, unlike in Shadowlands. During the Shadowlands beta discipline was looking REALLY good for M+ and it instantly got nerfed and with a single nerf it was completely destroyed and never looked at again. On the other hand, during SL, holy priest kept getting minor buffs over time which ended up making it the best healer in pve and pvp content (still is). Discipline, being the healer that needs to do damage in order to heal, deals LESS damage than the healer who can just top people in a single button and then spam damage abilities; it makes no sense.Comment by FrenchKissThat is ALOT of new buttons! can they unbloat Disc and Shadow Priest already?Comment by CodemagusThat is ALOT of new buttons! can they unbloat Disc and Shadow Priest already?Comment by TolivoldI agree with the analysis. On the other hand, I have some disagreement with the specialization tree.

Not taking Castigation, Rapture and Stolen Psyche seems very weird to me.
So I would remove: Dark Indulgence (1pt), Harsh Discipline (1pt) and Lesson of Humility (2pts), to take Rapture (1pt), Castigation (1pt) and Stolen Psyche (2pts).

Castigation is a solid overall damage upgrade and looks better than Dark Indulgence.
Also, Harsh Discipline doesn't look good. We want a controlled damage burst, not a random one.
Stolen Psyche also looks better than Lesson of Humility. 20% damage on a burst spell is better than 20% on Smite with the added condition of having 3 expiations active. Considering that the damage is only really significant during the burst phase following the ramp.
Rapture is just too powerful to ignore.Comment by SodianMake spirit shell great again.Comment by EarthElf9I agree with the analysis. On the other hand, I have some disagreement with the specialization tree.

Not taking Castigation, Rapture and Stolen Psyche seems very weird to me.
So I would remove: Dark Indulgence (1pt), Harsh Discipline (1pt) and Lesson of Humility (2pts), to take Rapture (1pt), Castigation (1pt) and Stolen Psyche (2pts).

Castigation is a solid overall damage upgrade and looks better than Dark Indulgence.
Also, Harsh Discipline doesn't look good. We want a controlled damage burst, not a random one.
Stolen Psyche also looks better than Lesson of Humility. 20% damage on a burst spell is better than 20% on Smite with the added condition of having 3 expiations active. Considering that the damage is only really significant during the burst phase following the ramp.
Rapture is just too powerful to ignore.https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/discipline/BQBEZUimgEQEkECAgEBANVVYFQISJEQpBUBQComment by FrenchKiss

I do agree with taking castigation over Dark indulgence since an additional penance bolt seems more valuable then just 10% additional per penance bolt. For Stolen Psyche ,I think this one will come down to testing. I personally think that Lesson of Humility will win out for the soul fact that it is quite easy to have 3 attonments out at all times and that you will be casting smite significantly more than you will be casting mind blast, but again I could be wrong.

Finally, Harsh Discipline is way better then you are expecting. So far, in a m+ scenario in alpha, it is extremely easy to get these procs and it seems like you could easily get a Harsh Discipline proc with nearly every penance which would make it vastly better then even the current legendary disc uses. I am assuming it becomes even easier in a raid environment. Assuming castigation is taken, with just 1 radiance cast (5 atonements) and 1 penance cast (assuming you have purge the wicked and pain on the boss) you can get 4 hits of penance, and about 2 ticks of each dot witch would be 8 ticks of attonment on each of the 5 targets giving you 40 stacks in just the cast time of penance. Assuming a tick from each dot happens at the rate of each smite cast, you can get about 15 stacks every smite cast. Also, this is all assuming you only have 5 attonments out and you already dont have harsh discipline proc. Also, just more free damage which is always good!https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/priest/discipline/BQAEQUCmgUQEkGCQoEBANVVZFQISJEQghUBQComment by zolphinusThe entire time I was reading this, I was disagreeing with almost everything said UNTIL I saw that the very end of it framed the context in raids, to which I agree. I would recommend bumping that disclaimer up to the beginning, as much of the changes in these trees look *really* sweet for M+, especially with the potential for a raw penance playstyle being on the table.Comment by SeniaaWhy even give Prism if it has no synergy with atonement? Shadowfiend damage goes into it so it makes no sense for its cleave not to. Such a weird design choice.

Also, giving a bunch of Shadow school support with a Shadow Covenant rework yet removing Mind Sear is a super questionable decision I still don't understand. Would it be the BEST cast in many scenarios? No, absolutely not, yet removing the option of a damage filler seems super odd to me.