Shadowlands Beta Bluepost on Druid Covenant Ability Convoke the Spirits

Shadowlands Posted 2020/10/21 at 8:20 PM by perculia

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Catching up here—I know you’ve seen some ongoing tuning to Covenant abilities on beta. One recent update that’s not as visible is that Convoke the Spirits will now try to use a more consistent number of current-form abilities. There are exceptions–for example if no hostiles are in range, Convoke will use 12 friendly spells regardless of spec. But, on average, Convoke should much more consistently use 7-8 current-form spells.

Comment by Owljinwhy even clarify, sims say its even worse than adaptive swarm.....Comment by AzraelUltimawhy even clarify, sims say its even worse than adaptive swarm.....Comment by TobiasAmaranthI dunno. I like the ability, even if it's not 'amazing' due to the RNG. I can switch to cat and do some boosted single target. I can Soulshape away and use it and get fully healed, maybe heal the party some. I can use it for some extra threat or aoe dps as bear. Shrug, it's fun, it's flexible.Comment by Cthunacomeplete garbage spell ( sry if i cant give a better description but nothing else describes it cause its so bad )Comment by Setsuna665still sounds like a %^&* ability and a waste of resourcesComment by WikbikDalaranWhy do they need to make all these confusing changes? How about you create a fun quest experience and innovative instances and raids. Why screw with the basic class functionality.Comment by sportsguyryI dunno. I like the ability, even if it's not 'amazing' due to the RNG. I can switch to cat and do some boosted single target. I can Soulshape away and use it and get fully healed, maybe heal the party some. I can use it for some extra threat or aoe dps as bear. Shrug, it's fun, it's flexible.Comment by GorgrumThis is one of the coolest abilities for druids. I hope it comes to be one of the better ones, everything else is just bland compared to convokeComment by ghostscytheIt's a cool idea and with some tuning / iterations they can probably get it to be really good. Think about the complexity involved in the game figuring out which spells to use etc., it takes iteration to get it right.Comment by elbardoIf you're resto but have balance afinity talent and switch into moonkin before using it, that would prioritize balance spells, right?Comment by arisynwhy even clarify, sims say its even worse than adaptive swarm.....Comment by Bodomiwhy even clarify, sims say its even worse than adaptive swarm.....Comment by isthisguyseriwhy even clarify, sims say its even worse than adaptive swarm.....Comment by TrevastatedI really don't understand why they don't just make this ability pull from a much smaller pool of abilities. As a Guardian druid in the beta, it definitely had great RNG... and terrible RNG. I'd be happier with a far more structured ability, personally, especially since you can get terrible draws. A Thrash is always more beneficial to a Guardian druid than a Rake. Getting a whole bunch of Iron Fur stacks feels great, but when you only get one it feels bad. IMO this should just do a whole bunch of things at once; for Guardian it could apply X stacks of Iron Fur and X stacks of Thrash to all nearby enemies. A big flashy bang of druid power instead of random silliness. The problem with Convoke at this point in time is it just doesn't feel good to use (unless you're Balance, then it's hilarious).Comment by Serendipity09Sims aren't "guesses".

While it is correct that sims aren't 100% correct or accurate in reflecting reality, they are far more accurate than a "guess".for abilities like this where the full functionality isn't user-visibleComment by JadothI really wish they'd just scrap this entirely and replace it with the Star Shower ability the corrupted druids use in Darkheart Thicket. Base the damage on Agi + Int and call it a day. Works in any spec. Done. Kthxbye.Comment by AnyakeiThis is all you have to say about druid? Where do you see/want us, bottom tier for feral again that is? Some more info on tuning plans would be nice.Comment by sharnieNight Fae, arguably the only covenant that actually fits a wow class, the Druid. Yet the soulbinds, the class ability, the general ability and the transmog set are the worst I've seen in the game.

Soulshapw is useless for Druids. Convoke is massively underwhelming on 3 of the 4 specs and is too RNG. The soulbinds have traits that leave something to be desired compared to other Soulbinds. The transmog set is very bland and really not worth mogging into unlike the Cloth and Plate Night Fae sets.

Blizzard need to change it because I'd rather not have a choice if they designed it better.Comment by MurzacSims aren't "guesses".

While it is correct that sims aren't 100% correct or accurate in reflecting reality, they are far more accurate than a "guess".for abilities like this where the full functionality isn't user-visiblesureComment by Solartis29i lie it because it let me play what i thik druid should be: a multi role class.