Blizzard Explains Leviathan's Eye Nerf on 8.2.5 PTR

PTR Posted 2019/08/21 at 9:24 PM by Anshlun

nerfed from 120 main stat to 100

Hello – The change being discussed here was the first of two changes in this patch that are together related to a cleanup of how stats are calculated for some gems. After the second fix is implemented in the next build of 8.2.5, there should be no overall changes to their stats.

Sorry for the confusion!

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Comment by LynixaiIf anything I'm more confused by this statement. Are they planning on buffing the gems again (and if so why was this done in the first place?), cause otherwise I don't see how there wouldn't be a change in our stats?Comment by melarnMost likely adjustments to item budgets on the back end.Comment by cleric670Sounds like the kind of answer you would get from a politician.Comment by MalvenueI'm with Lynixai. I now know less than before the statement!Comment by 1491791Does this mean primary stats have more power in 8.2.5?Comment by CharakPog, blue post commented on my threadComment by ladilockSounds like the kind of answer you would get from a politician.Comment by altieri43not sure what this meansComment by ShryIf I was to guess, gems are going to be needed, not just mainstay but secondary stat ones too. I'm honestly not suppried either, because a socket is just way to powerful for something that has a low percent of being on gear, and cannot be realisticly farmed on gear because of its random nature. In many cases for many classes a socket is preferred of several stages of WF, and that is a feels bad man moment when you get a 20 ilvl ring that gets scraped just because it has no socketComment by IceWolfDKDont forget crafted personal gear that comes with a guaranteed socket. And the fact that armor crafters gets two personal items with sockets.Comment by tkoreaperWhat it means is that this is only the FIRST of TWO changes. The second change, that will be explained in the future, will make this change make more sense. Obviously, the second change will be something stat related that will make 100 primary stat just as valuable as 120.Comment by JaceDraccusIf anything I'm more confused by this statement. Are they planning on buffing the gems again (and if so why was this done in the first place?), cause otherwise I don't see how there wouldn't be a change in our stats?Sounds like the kind of answer you would get from a politician.Comment by IceWolfDKWhat it means is that this is only the FIRST of TWO changes. The second change, that will be explained in the future, will make this change make more sense. Obviously, the second change will be something stat related that will make 100 primary stat just as valuable as 120.Comment by ArchimtirosWhat it means is that this is only the FIRST of TWO changes. The second change, that will be explained in the future, will make this change make more sense. Obviously, the second change will be something stat related that will make 100 primary stat just as valuable as 120."After the second fix is implemented in the next build of 8.2.5, there should be no overall changes to their stats."Comment by JetLightWolfI mean guessing the math is quite simple, whatever the changes, 100 main stat will be worth what 120 is worth now. They will likely bump 1 point Main stat up to 1.2 value. I expect 1 point of secondaries to be bumped down 0.955ish value. Or something along those lines.

They just probably don't want the main stat gems to be that much of a diference as it'd do nothing in reducing the absurd power current sockets have.(Most healers also already prefer Main Stat so much so that at least Holy sockets both Levi and Kraken's Eyes before any secondaries. That being said this is just due to the nature of these changes gonna mean that most of those healers are gonna be buffed since their current itemization only got better)Comment by WhaleMobileI don't think this has anything to do with trying to rebalance secondary vs primary stats. My guess is that the "cleanup of how stats are calculated for some gems" is related to the gem scaling with ilvl, which is most relevant for Timewalking (when gems get scaled down). After the 'second fix' is implemented, I expect that Leviathan's Eye will return to 120 primary stat, this is how I interpret the meaning of "there should be no overall changes to their stats".Comment by numy@wowhead "the gems should have the same power as they have currently" replacing the word "power" with "stats" would clear up some confusion I think

Overall it sounds like blizzard used to have messy and ugly code calculating the stats on a gem. They made the code pretty, step 2 is to readjust the values back to how they are on live
that's it, nothing is changing
main stat isn't going to become more powerful (that would be a huge change)
secondary stats won't become weaker

Nothing is changing here, move along ^^Comment by ChaosDecidesHow about nerfing the requirements for crafting rings so we can actually make them without it being a complete nightmare?Comment by deiaeHow about nerfing the requirements for crafting rings so we can actually make them without it being a complete nightmare?Comment by DarkAviatorHow about nerfing the requirements for crafting rings so we can actually make them without it being a complete nightmare?