Upcoming Mythic+ Hotfixes - Reduced Importance of Mass Dispel

Live Posted 2023/08/21 at 10:32 PM by Squishei

M+ Dungeons

Above keystone level 20, each additional keystone level will now increase enemy health and damage by 8% (was 10%).
Developers’ notes: We’ve recently made and are currently making a number of adjustments to specs that were particularly powerful in Mythic+, and while we feel these changes will have the desired effect, we’ve also heard concerns that it may now be much more difficult to complete very high keys and achieve ratings that were previously within reach. We think this is a fair concern, so we’re making a temporary adjustment to the scaling of key levels above 20 in the hope that it provides players some space to continue competing for Mythic+ rating before the end of Season 2.

Halls of Infusion

Glacial Proto-Dragon's Deep Chill now damages affected players every 2 seconds (was every 1 seconds). This reduces the damage over time portion of the spell by 50%.

Uldaman: Legacy of Tyr

Infinite Timereaver's Stolen Time cooldown increased to 8 seconds (was 4 seconds).
Developers’ notes: We've heard feedback that certain dungeon creature abilities can feel oppressive for groups without access to Mass Dispel, and we're hoping these abilities will now feel more manageable for those groups.

Bursting affix

Emberon's Burning Heat in Uldaman

Chrono-Lord Deios's Time Sink in Uldaman

Watcher Irideus's Power Overload in Halls of Infusion

Gashtooth's Decayed Senses in Brackenhide

Unbound Abomination's Putrid Blood in Underrot

Turbulent Squall's Storm Shield in Vortex Pinnacle

Mind Soothe

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Comment by boopisbeepinstead of buffing other classes to make them more doable in meta you just keep trying to kill sp. f u blizz, you cant maintain your own gaemComment by xepaThis is better than nerfing the dungeons, do more to combat utilityComment by elicieNot sure how this reduces the importence of priest. In halls you still want mass dispel on the first boss and you never touch the drakes anyway - because you skip everything but the last pack with mind sooth and the 1 dragon on bridge. Comment by qrtrcool

now buff Shadows damage so they aint the Joke they are anymoreComment by Y0L0Soldiers's Gushing wind in VP says hi.Comment by UnholyvampWhy did it take them a million years to apply these changes?Comment by elicieWhy did it take them a million years to apply these changes?Comment by SchattensangUldaman: Legacy of Tyr

Infinite Timereaver's Stolen Time cooldown increased to 8 seconds (was 4 seconds).Comment by BigBadDadWhy only do 2 of the mass dispel requirements instead of all? This company seems like they are so far out of touch with their players.Comment by TyneicFor those who dont know, regarding the last boss snare:

Warlocks can use Demonic Teleport to dispell himself/herself. Can use, and should use Imp's dispell to help since there is nothing to interrupt.
Monks & Paladins can use Tiger's Lust/Hand of Freedom to get rid of it
Death Knights can immune it with AMS.
Druids can shapeshift in and out. For some reason that escapes me druids forget they can get rid of slows by doing that. You're an idiot if you are willing to die just to keep your dps up. Staying alive is much more important....I thought this is evident.
Shamans have their own version of Hand of Freedom/Tiger's Lust.

personal40 snares1 minute cooldown abilityone singular snare25 second cooldown abilityremove snares from up to 5 people40The mobs before Talondras (that look like him) can be stunned. I need a confirmation if they are stunnable even with Enrage. Somehow, I was always in a group with a druid when I did this dungeon.Comment by MetachaserI mean.. OK but Mass Dispel and Mind Soothe are the problem not individual mob spells.

I'm so tired of whiny content creators trying to protect their favorite specs and impeding the progress of the game's development over it.

You have one outlier. Priest. Why are the changes not being done to the outlier. Why are people opposed to that.

Some of you need to start looking at the game in a more distant, holistic way- and understand that good games are the ones where you have multiple tools and styles to solve the same problem, not ones where almost every problem can be solved by one single character or power.Comment by EasyIonOfc they forgot to nerf debuffs on Emberon and Chrono-Lord Deios for exact same reason. There's likely even more things I forgot about that should have been nerfed to reduce a need for mass dispel... Recent news post about priest on wowhead had a huge list of them... https://www.wowhead.com/news/why-nerfing-shadow-priest-damage-wont-change-their-importance-in-mythic-guide-334552Comment by phoenixsoapTo fix this overall issue Blizzard needs to hire a few people who play each class to title level every season. Basically one person per spec. NOT to tune for the top 0.1% but rather because these people know the specs in and out.

The developers themselves can't be expected to perform at a very top level. And despite having a unique view into the game, they are still missing the player prospective unless they themselves toil in keys.

They need a team of people like this in general, for other types of content as well. Yeah an expense to hire ~40 people but I'm sure bad balance has caused enough people to cancel their subs to offset this change.

Plus right now if you go onto youtube the videos about world of warcraft are complaining about world of warcraft. Often before I buy a game I'll check out some youtube videos of gameplay. "I'm quitting" is a common theme in youtube videos, I'm definitely going to consider other gamesComment by mezzaninexNot sure how this reduces the importence of priest. In halls you still want mass dispel on the first boss and you never touch the drakes anyway - because you skip everything but the last pack with mind sooth and the 1 dragon on bridge. Comment by elicie
Yes, most classes have a way to remove snares. But we're talking about Tiger's Lust, a 1 minute cooldown ability that can remove one singular snare and are comparing it to Mass Dispel, a 25 second cooldown ability that can remove snares from up to 5 people. Mass dispel is 10 times better than Tiger's Lust, it's 2.5 times better than Hand of Freedom, it's 15 times better than Avatar and 20 times better than Deep Breath, at removing snares.
Tiger's lust is 30 secdiffuse magic 90 sec Invoke Chi Ji1 min healing cd 12 sec20 sec fadeComment by elicie
Yes, most classes have a way to remove snares. But we're talking about Tiger's Lust, a 1 minute cooldown ability that can remove one singular snare and are comparing it to Mass Dispel, a 25 second cooldown ability that can remove snares from up to 5 people. Mass dispel is 10 times better than Tiger's Lust, it's 2.5 times better than Hand of Freedom, it's 15 times better than Avatar and 20 times better than Deep Breath, at removing snares.
Tiger's lust is 30 secdiffusie magic 90 sec Invoke Chi Ji1 min healing cd 12 sec20 sec fadeNot sure how this reduces the importence of priest. In halls you still want mass dispel on the first boss and you never touch the drakes anyway - because you skip everything but the last pack with mind sooth and the 1 dragon on bridge. Comment by Mitsurugilmao people say they unsub but still comment on the game, if your done your done lolComment by 2350822Bring back Challenge Modes.Comment by Bloodred

But it doesn't matter much anyway since almost no group wants a Hunter in high keys. 😑
Comment by Scrotacious'Developers’ notes: We've heard feedback that certain dungeon creature abilities can feel oppressive for groups without access to Mass Dispel, and we're hoping these abilities will now feel more manageable for those groups.'

Oh gee, no kidding?
As a resto druid having a single dispel every 8 seconds is crap with the multiple dispel-able effects going out.

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