Restoration Druid Review of Wildstalker Hero Talents - Passive & Catweaving Synergy?

Live Posted 2024/03/06 at 11:47 PM by Voulk

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Wildstalker Restoration Druid Review

The text of the Wildstalker Thriving Growth talent is being updated to reflect the latest version of its design.

It should read " Wild Growth, Regrowth, and Efflorescence have a chance to cause Symbiotic Blooms to grow on the target…" not Rejuvenation.

RejuvenationRegrowthNode WalkthroughThat means that we're quite likely to benefit from both effectsCat FormSymbiotic Bloom Focused NodesRegrowthEfflorescenceWild Growth

Whether the Symbiotic Bloom gives us a stack of our mastery. Historically effects like this do so I'm giving it a high probability.

Whether it uses a fixed RPPM system (where you can expect the same number of procs per minute) or a percent chance on tick or cast (which emphasizes casting the listed spells more often).

Whether we'll also benefit from the Feral portion that gives us an extra DoT on Rip and Rake. If we do benefit, is the proc rate shared between the two effects? (This would be quite bad but we do see it sometimes).

The stacks mention they overlap, but a reference to "different kinds" is made later. Does that mean a Regrowth Thriving Growth could overlap with a Wild Growth Thriving Growth but I couldn't have say, two Regrowth... growths.

Wild GrowthRegrowthEfflorescenceRejuvenationWild GrowthLifebloom allWild Growth this needs to proc a lotFiller & Generic Power NodesMoonfireSunfireCat FormGrove GuardiansincrediblyRegrowthRegrowthLifebloomEfflorescenceRejuvenationWild GrowthWild GrowthBarkskinLifebloomRegrowthRejuvenationRegrowthRegrowthWhere is Rejuvenation?RejuvenationRejuvenationConclusionsGuardian of the Grove Power-wise the tree should be easy to tune and I expect it to end up strong, so long as Symbiotic Bloom isn't short-changed in the number of times it procs per minute. We'll find out when Alpha goes live.Questionably EpicQE LiveDungeon Tips addonThriving GrowthWild GrowthRegrowthEfflorescenceRipRakeHunt Beneath the Open SkiesCat FormMoonfireSunfireStrategic InfusionProwlShredRakeRegrowthWildstalker’s PowerRipFerocious BiteRejuvenationEfflorescenceLifebloomWildstalkers PrescenceWild GrowthRakeEntangling VortexFlower WalkBarkskinBond With NatureHarmonious ConstitutionRegrowthResilient FlourishingRoot NetworkLifebloomWild GrowthBursting GrowthTwin SproutsImplantRegrowthVigorous Creepers

Comment by AnaideIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by ElectricBloodCompared to warrior this just screams 'boring'.Comment by MyFingerIsOnCDRNG procs on RNG procs. Boring, but at least it's not obnoxious like grove guardian empowermentComment by AsgardTMI suspect the proc was changed from Rejuv to Regrowth in order for Feral to proc the healing growths, much like resto can proc the damage growths.

My main complaint is the entire premise of the hero spec is all passive. Chance of extra healing when healing, chance of extra damage while damaging. It might end up being powerful but it doesn't feel impactful.Comment by Assassin14xif it proc frequently and will have separate PPM source for healing and damage its gonna be nice.Comment by ApanonarIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by NaturalnaCommenting on numbers shows 0 knowledge how WoW development works, it wont add any extra power, it will all be tuned around these specs and all numbers are placeholders until they go live. The only interesting part is how it changes playstyle or adds any new tools.

Whole hero spec is extremely boring and offers 0 added survivability which is the main problem of druids atm.Comment by DrakknfyreIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by DwarfOverlordIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by AsherrTheRedi really like the concept of a catweaving tree I hope this one pans out for druidsComment by TastelikelemonI suspect the proc was changed from Rejuv to Regrowth in order for Feral to proc the healing growths, much like resto can proc the damage growths.

My main complaint is the entire premise of the hero spec is all passive. Chance of extra healing when healing, chance of extra damage while damaging. It might end up being powerful but it doesn't feel impactful.Comment by AsmhlzIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by ShiedaIts very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by AvesaraI would like cat weaving much better if ranged abilities didn't target us in cat form or when we play a cat weaving spec.

Like monks and pallies...Comment by OxyotlI read this Hero spec with a DPS mindset, vs a healing one. To me its built way more with Feral in mind. Not so much the Resto. I see Resto, cat weave but I never seen Feral go resto to off heal. So here is hoping one of the other three Hero talents are more Resto first vs what this one highlights.Comment by bloodmoth13Its very sad to see that instead of working with caster form spells Blizzard is trying to encourage that idiotic form weaving.Comment by AySz88The conclusion feels a little contradictory - do things really cater to a wide range of playstyles if we're already at the point of assuming catweaving for usefulness in M+? The other tree seemed to be judged more for its impact on catweaving as well.

I don't mind the idea of catweaving, but Feral isn't the only other main path down the class tree. Why shouldn't a Balance-path caster work, at least to be a "good enough" option for newer players or lower-difficulty content? (I also wish the writing included more analysis on how the trees might impact such players, like the writer has done with some tools at QE, though I guess it might be in less demand at the moment.)

So here is hoping one of the other three Hero talents are more Resto first vs what this one highlights.Comment by VinceVegaNot a fan of catweaving... still better than that boring as hell pet healing build.

But i am really disappointed, that we get abo#$%^ly nothing for rejuv... Both builds we get shoehorned into are not really a playstyle i enjoy.

First time i actually thinking about dropping my resto druid i playes since vanilla...Comment by dreadmarblesI mean if people don't enjoy shapeshifting into different forms why even play a druid. It just feels a little silly to say stuff like that, go play some other healer then hahah. Weaving forms is where peak Druid gameplay lies. It's a simple fact, you can have opinions, albeit mistaken and misguided.Comment by DrakknfyreI mean if people don't enjoy shapeshifting into different forms why even play a druid. It just feels a little silly to say stuff like that, go play some other healer then hahah.ablemandatory