Hey everyone,

I wanted to post a few things about Marksmanship, including a few things in the works.

Lone Wolf's damage at 10% may not be the final number. I changed it from 18% to 10% a while back so it being at 18% and such a big DPS swing between pet and no pet would stop dominating the conversation about Lone Wolf. Tuning will happen.

Aimed Shot's charge recovery time will be reduced by haste in a future build.

Rapid Fire's visual effects are not final.
Rapid Fire will bounce to 1 additional target when Trick Shots is active in a future build.

Mastery: Sniper Training will be changed to affect all of your shots instead of only Focus spending shots in a future build so things like Rapid Fire are not left behind as gear progresses.

RNG - there's a lot of talents with randomness in them. We hear the feedback that you feel things are too random. Some things will probably change to be less random in general, others will have some adjustments made to how they proc to prevent the really bad luck streaks from being a thing.

As always, thanks for the feedback both in this thread and others created.

Comment by annababeFinally, thx blizz <3Comment by AsturinahI've been waiting for an evaluation on MMS hunters for a while, lovely :3Comment by ZygosSpeaking of RNG... what's Blizzard doing with Frost Mages? Have they posted that yet and I missed it?Comment by deathlavitzPlayerbase: we don't like RNG controlling us
blizzard: we know, so we're going to overdo it and "meet them in the middle later"

Guess you know they want RNG to be apart of your spec, you guys should overcomplain so that "middle" is more on your side ;)Comment by YaldrikHopefully they can something about the mess of an ability known as Barbed Shot.Comment by 68docSpeaking of RNG... what's Blizzard doing with Frost Mages? Have they posted that yet and I missed it?Comment by exmachinaxSpeaking of RNG... what's Blizzard doing with Frost Mages? Have they posted that yet and I missed it?doesn't revolveComment by HydroBRLove those feedback threads! Hoping for a SV one in the future, though, as it seems to be the most "lost" among the Hunter specs.Comment by kogaSagaraDear blizzard, lone wolf is not fun, forcing player to go no pet is not "class identity" or class "unique-ness ish" pelase blizzard consider this: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20762076060Comment by BalarakMy problem with current MM on BFA is the fact trick shots needs 3 targets to activate, yet the trick shot component of Rapid fire only hits 1 extra target (currently). It makes cleave on two targets impossible effectively. That said, if I read the blue post correctly, its going from 2 to 3 targets? Its a nice change, but still doesnt solve the wierd gap between 1 and 3 targets that is 2 mobs.

Also, Trailblazer being an out of combat (realistically) talent only is ass. I'd dig 15% if not attacked recently, or 30 if you havent attacked recently (non stacking)Comment by GladiatoryLone Wolf is optional.
In fact currently on multi target is recommended to summon your pet and abandon the Lone Wolf bonus.
The only thing that changed is that it's now baseline to open up a talent row.Comment by SoWhatSupStill nothing about Explosive shot? And Serrated Shot feels so out of place.Comment by PhnxdwnLove those feedback threads! Hoping for a SV one in the future, though, as it seems to be the most "lost" among the Hunter specs.Comment by PhnxdwnLone Wolf is optional.
In fact currently on multi target is recommended to summon your pet and abandon the Lone Wolf bonus.
The only thing that changed is that it's now baseline to open up a talent row.Comment by AzbottIt would be great if someone could collate all of these class feedback posts so far together. Trying to find one, or if one has been done yet isn't easy at present.Comment by ShelassaNot that I am not thankful for communication, but compared to other blue posts - such as Fury Warriors, DC Priests and Boomies - MM's like... eh, we are doing stuff, sit tight. Also, doesn't address the worst (IMO) part of the spec right now - baseline AiS cast time.

I hated Vulnerable as much as the next guy, but I vastly prefer Legion version of MM to what is currently in the beta.Comment by PeptonWhen is the last time you saw a MM hunter with a pet? There is no situation where it should be used. There are some people that actually like the lone wolf fantasy and face it, as wow has evolved we are now talking more about spec fantasies rather than a generic class fantasy. IF you like pets so much, there are the other 2 specs, there should be one spec for those that like dishing out the damage themselves.Comment by ShelassaWhen is the last time you saw a MM hunter with a pet? There is no situation where it should be used. There are some people that actually like the lone wolf fantasy and face it, as wow has evolved we are now talking more about spec fantasies rather than a generic class fantasy. IF you like pets so much, there are the other 2 specs, there should be one spec for those that like dishing out the damage themselves.Comment by AsderialHuge step forward, but not enough.

MM would still have the next issuies after this update:

ST talents compete with AOE talents. Steamline and double tap are mandatory talents

No baseline execute

Have no 2 target cleave and limited 7+ target AOE because trick shot works only at 3-5 targets

BM seems only viable spec in high keys, because MM don’t pet buffs (8% hp and extra save) with LW, or should trade AOE damage for pet utility.

Almost all damage gated behind 3 sec AiS cast and 3 sec channeled RF. I expect very poor experience at any pvp activity.Comment by wyspersWhen is the last time you saw a MM hunter with a pet? There is no situation where it should be used. There are some people that actually like the lone wolf fantasy and face it, as wow has evolved we are now talking more about spec fantasies rather than a generic class fantasy. IF you like pets so much, there are the other 2 specs, there should be one spec for those that like dishing out the damage themselves.