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Commentaire de 665258

New lv. 90 darkmoon card from MoP.

The item Suite de Grues starts the quest Suite de Grues de Sombrelune, that rewards Relique de Chi Ji.

Commentaire de Milandas

I wish the darkmoon card for healer has some Intellect like the lower level cards before.

Only spirit ist a little bit single-sided

Edit: My wish has come true :)

Commentaire de Milandas

The other Trinkets from Darkmoon-Cards are:

Relique de Xuen or Relique de Xuen, the Quest-Rewards from Suite de Tigres de Sombrelune which is started by Suite de Tigres.
Relique de Niuzao, the Quest-Reward from Suite de Buffles de Sombrelune which is started by Suite de Buffles.
Relique de Yu’lon, the Quest-Reward from Suite de Serpents de Sombrelune which is started by Suite de Serpents.

For each Quest you gain 350 Reputation with Foire de Sombrelune

The Cards for the Decks are created by Mystère des brumes or Carte de Sombrelune de Brumes

Commentaire de 422399

Let me try to stop the QQ before it gets too far out of hand. The reason this trinket has Spirit on it is because in MoP Spirit is being buffed compared to Cata. In Cata intellect was both a throughput stat (HPS, healing per second) and a mana regeneration stat (MPS). In MoP intellect is only a throughput stat and will not affect mana regeneration.

Spirit is our exclusive man regeneration stat in MoP.

So this is a properly itemized trinket for healers in MoP.

Commentaire de Suzushiiro

This was changed from +spirit/spirit proc to +int/spirit proc, which means that instead of being BiS for regen it's now just a weaker Esprits du soleil. Healers (and their wallets) can now breathe a little easier, as the fact that you'll replace this in the middle of the current tier rather than the next one means that you don't have as much pressure to drop thousands of gold on the thing.

Commentaire de McMeyer

Have anyone been testing the proc on this Trinket on Beta?

If the proc has an internal CD of say 2 min, we have a +1157 int + 505 spirit (3027/120 sec* 20 sec).

So be that sounds pretty powerfull considering it's "only" a ilvl 476.

Compared to the "Scroll of Revered Ancestors" (Shadow-Pan rep. 1750VP trinket). This trinket is a ilvl489 with +1079 int +706 spirit (2822/60 sec * 15 sec use effect).

Commentaire de 310077

15% proc chance with 45sec ICD, according to EJ's resto shaman thread.

I can't do a proper comparison because wowhead's data on the procs of our trinkets appear to be inaccurate (LFR, normal, and heroic versions of other trinkets are listing the exact same proc numbers), however if EJ's numbers are correct, then this will definitely be better than every non-heroic trinket.

I suspect that most healers will not be replacing the trinket during this tier, it is clearly overbudget for its item level. Since I dislike the idea of Intellect procs from items such as Qin-Xi's Polarizing Seal, I'm considering this trinket to be BiS along with Spirit of the Sun.

Commentaire de 1041864

Just got my hands on this trinket. I can confirm that it is 45s ICD. Relatively high proc chance. It procs of any direct heals as well as hots. Tested on resto druid.

Commentaire de McMeyer

Accourding to Elitist Jerks the ICD is 45 sec

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t130574-resto_raid_healing_5_04_mop/#Trinkets

I have been testing the trinket and my numbers show that it in average procs every 50 seconds.

3027 * 20 sec / 50 sec = 1,210.8 spirit

Don't let the low itemlevel fool.

Commentaire de zomgname

This trinket has one of the prettiest procs in the game. Small swirly golden orbs, and it seems to turn other spells the same color, Holy Paladins Eternal Flame tornado animation turns white-gold and looks awesome.

Commentaire de Aevitas

What's weird about this item is that when you compare it to Relique de Yu’lon, which has passive intellect and procs intellect, and Relique de Xuen which has passive agility and procs agility, both have passive and primary stat procs. This trinket has a primary passive stat, and a secondary stat proc.

According to WowWiki's stat modifiers section:

Primary Stat (STR, AGI, INT, SPI) 1.00

Spirit is now a primary stat, which weighs as heavy on the item budget as Intellect and Agility do. This isn't reflected at all in the passive intellect on this item, which is 1156, compared to the Caster DPS' "mere" 956.

When you take a look at gems, the current spirit gem Cœur du fleuve étincelant provides 320 spirit where the current intellect gem Rubis primordial brillant provides 160 intellect. This would indicate that spirit is in fact cheaper on the item budget than intellect is. This would indicate that spirit is in fact not a primary stat, but a secondary. This is further backed up by the ability to reforge into and from spirit, which is only possible with secondary stats and item bonuses.

This does put this trinket in a bit of a weird spot to be, it "feels" as if the spirit proc is a bit low, and the additional intellect on it doesn't compensate for that. Seeing Spirit is now listed as a primary stat, rather than a secondary, you'd expect the same amount of intellect but a larger spirit proc - roughly twice as much as the respective intellect and agility procs, following the trend of gems and gear.

That's not the case however, which does raise the question: is this item possibly under budget, or are the respective other trinkets over budget?

Commentaire de 171906

The uptime is amazing. Looking at World of Logs

Against the Stone Guard a 7.5 minute fight for my guild the uptime was 42.3%. ~1260 spirit.

Against Feng ~8 minute fight the uptime was 43.6%. ~1290 spirit.

Commentaire de 870586

Relic of Chi Ji versus Spirits of the Sun(on normal, with 6908 spirit) (obviously from a healer PoV, because a spirit proc is useless for DPS, even if it equals hit):

1157 int vs 1152 int.
3027 spi for 20s on a 45s ICD vs 6908 spi for 20s on a 105s ICD.
Counting an average of 5 seconds before it procs:
SotS: 1152 int + 1256 spi average
RoCJ: 1157 int + 1210.8 spi average
The one has 5 more int and the other has 45 more spirit.
The Relic has a 20% proc chance (according to WoWHead), while Spirits has a 15% proc chance, BUT the Spirits procs off of spells doing healing, while Relic procs off of heals cast. This will work slightly in favour of the Spirits I suppose, netting that one a marginal win on stats. Also, Spirits could proc while you're NOT casting healing spells, which could either mean it's proc go into 'overregen' (if you allow me the word), or means less downtime on the proc.

Another difference is the way in which they proc. One could say that the Spirits has the second proc of Relic rolled into the first proc. Ie, if the Relic procs an odd number of times in a fight (say 5), then the Spirits would have procced 3 times, netting you more regen with the Spirits because the proc comes in bigger chunks. That argument goes the other way as well though: The first proc of such a regen trinket has a high chance of going to waste, because a number of fights don't require heavy healing at the beginning of a fight, so that Spirits will probably have more 'overregen'. Both of these effects will be less important the longer the fight lasts.

With all of this in mind, there's no telling which will be better. I think I'll take the Relic though, both because I can acquire it earlier (I'm a scribe myself), and because I preload Riptide on the tank and will probably have the first proc of either gone to waste anyway.

Now obviously the heroic version of Spirits of the Sun will outperform both. Just don't make the mistake of thinking Spirits normal is an upgrade if you have the Relic and kindly pass it on to your co-healer (or even offspec healer) that doesn't.

Commentaire de 1047329

If you want to get Relique de Chi Ji, you have to create the Suite de Grues.

For this Deck you need all of those cards:

As de Grues
Deux de Grues
Trois de Grues
Quatre de Grues
Cinq de Grues
Six de Grues
Sept de Grues
Huit de Grues

Using Carte de Sombrelune de Brumes, you will get randomly one card of Suite de Tigres, Suite de Buffles, Suite de Grues or Suite de Serpents.

So each random card costs
1x Parchemin léger
10x Encre lumétoile
1x Parchemin de sagesse (You can create only one scroll per day!)

The fastest way, to get all of your cards is to trade cards you dont need with other players.

Commentaire de Tonykunn

when this procs it makes light of dawn so shiny

Commentaire de wellcool

Had the pleasure of using this trinket for the first time on Blade Lord Ta'yak, it really is an amazing trinket well worth the gold.

Pro Tip: If you are a Holy paladin like myself, don't use Light of Dawn during Phase 2 as you will quickly find yourself, and your teammates, being blown to the back of the room......

....most people reported seeing a blinding white beam of light and they can't remember what happened next.

Don't know why people log on wowhead just to downvote legit comments, ah well

Double Edit: This has now been fixed as of patch 5.1, rejoice

Commentaire de Sounder

In Challenge Mode, the proc on this trinket will be scaled down from +3027 Spirit to +2682 Spirit, starting in 5.1

Commentaire de 1058937

After upgrade 1: 1201 (+44) intellect 3143 (+116) spirit proc
After upgrade 2: 1247 (+46) intellect 3262 (+119) spirit proc

Commentaire de Luminescence

In a large majority of server's AH prices I've looked at this one tends to be the most expensive. Any reason for that I thought the drop rates for the cards to create each of em were fairly even O.o

Commentaire de perculia

Quality of life change coming in Patch 5.2, according to the patch notes:

Effects for the following trinkets Esprits du soleil, Sceau polarisant de Qin Xi, and Relique de Chi Ji should no longer activate while outside of combat.

Commentaire de 125795

Dernier souffle d’Horridon = 1218 int + 573 mp5
Emblème de méditation du gladiateur tyrannique = 353 PvP Power and Resili + 632 mp5(calculated from 1 spirit ~= 0.56 mp5 in combat) + On Use Health
Relique de Chi Ji (2/2) = 1246 int + 736 mp5

Darkmoon trinket is still better for mana regen than the new raidfinder/pvp trinket if you remembered to upgrade DM trink before 5.2 came.

But as for PvP, you will have to decide yourself PvP stats worth ~2 gems and an Oh-%^&*-button for when you are stunned/silenced, OR intellect worth ~6 gems.

Commentaire de maely

Did some quick number-crunching today because I was curious about Challenge Mode/Proving Ground trinkets. Now, due to the way item level downscaling works, you're going to want to avoid ppm trinkets such as Horridon's Last Gasp. For every single one of these trinkets, I added five seconds to the stated cooldown to allow for a few seconds delay in proc or in activation by the user.

Relic of Chi-Ji: 1025in, 894spr
Empty Fruit Barrel: 847in, 847spr
Spirits of the Sun: 847in, 847spr
Qin-Xi's Polarizing Seal: 847in, 847spr
Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault: 847in, 823spr
Price of Progress: 847in, 750spr
Vial of Ichorous Blood: 847in, 679spr
Contemplation of Chi-Ji: 847in, 669spr
Scroll of Revered Ancestors: 847in, 651spr

The Empty Fruit Barrel is assumed to have an icd of 35sec, and remember that I added five more sec for one use every ~40sec.
The Price of Progress was calculated assuming one proc per 60sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.
The Soothing Talisman was calculated assuming one use every 185sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.

Long story short, the Relic of Chi-Ji is definitely the best Challenge Mode healer trinket available. After the Relic of Chi-Ji, I would next look at the Fruit Barrel, one of the 5.0 LFR trinkets, or the Soothing Talisman trinket. All are about equal.

Commentaire de irishlord

my priest just bought this on timeless isle for 50k coins. i see no info on it here. I want it for my mage for the intell.

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Relique de Chi Ji

Niveau d'objet 476
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Unique - Équipé : [Darkmoon Card of the Mists] (1)

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+1.157 Intelligence

Niveau 90 requis
Équipé : Quand vous lancez des sorts de soins, vous avez une chance de bénéficier de Bénédiction des Astres, qui augmente votre Esprit de 3027 pendant 20 s. (20% de chances, 55 s de temps de recharge) (Chance d'occurence :20%, 55sec de recharge)

Prix de Vente: 24 73 87

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