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Kommentar von JulesPeace

Die Runensteine droppen nur von den letzten 6 Bossen. Die Dropchance sollte bei ca. 25% liegen (Ich habe die Daten, die ich von Freunden und Gildenmitgliedern sowie mir selbst bekommen habe, ausgewertet), d.h. es ist viel Spielraum um extremes Glück und extremes Pech zu haben. Ein Freund von mir hatte alle 12 nach 3 Wochen (5-4-3), das geht tatsächlich auch. Im Schnitt wird man alle 12 nach 8 Wochen haben.

Kommentar von athika

Seit dem 12.06.2013 gibt es einen garantierten Drop bei Lei Shen. Siehe http://wow.mmozone.de/lei-shen-droppt-garantiert-einen-runenstein-der-titanen/

Immer mit der ersten ID erhält man sie von den ersten 8 Bossen aus Schlacht um Orgrimmar oder von den letzten 6 Bossen aus Der Thron des Donners egal welchen Modus man zuerst macht.

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Kommentar von kirby411

Pretty sure this will drop in LFR. (as Siegel der Macht and Siegel der Weisheit)

Kommentar von Mythricia

This is not a drop needed for the legendary meta-gem, since you start this quest -after- receiving the gem. So it's a follow-up of some kind, probably leading towards the legendary cloak which currently seems to most likely be the next reward in the line of MoP legendary items.

Kommentar von Taoma

The drop of these functions much the same as Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches - they drop on all difficulties (including LFR), they are personal loot (they are not on the raid loot and can't be ninja-ed by a raid leader) and every character has a single shared chance per boss per week to get them.

Kommentar von Noxide

The Titan Runestones seems to follow the same mold as Secrets of the Empire in that it has a random chance to drop from a boss (difference being these only drop in the last two wings) during the week and only once per boss.

They also drop from Ra-Den.

Also everytime a runestone drops Wrathion sends you a whisper about the translation of the stone. Each one were different and most likely they will continue in a similar pattern which will reveal what he learns and why he hands out the final quest.

Kommentar von hixn36

As "the Chambers of Flesh-Shaping and the Halls of Thunder" are not the names of any zones, I would suspect that these drop from the latter six bosses in Throne of Thunder, starting at Durumu in the LFR zone "Halls of Flesh-Shaping."

Kommentar von shnook13

Anyone have all the whispers you get from wrathion? i missed a few and would like to know what he has to say. Thanks.

Kommentar von 12781

I can confirm that this is a personal drop just like Siegel der Macht and Siegel der Weisheit.

Kommentar von Avinoch

Can anybody please confirm that these drop without having the metagem equipped?
I'm on the quest and have the gem in my bags, but do not yet have an appropriate level helm to socket it.

Kommentar von Taliwyr

These also drop from Ra-den.

Kommentar von cobaka

Can anyone confirm if these will only drop off one difficulty per week like the Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches? Meaning if you clear LFR you won't get a chance in normal?

Kommentar von shadey81

well I did pinnacle and halls this week and got 0, so prepare again for low droprates and many weeks(maybe months) of running it.

Kommentar von 967632

24 kills 1 runestone, nice ratio

Kommentar von grafspe806

so these do not drop from the 1st two LFR runs ?

Kommentar von Dolnarian

I started to SS the whispers and here is what I have

Whisper 7

We're beginning to put the pieces together, champion. The mogu were created and sent here to guard the Vale for their Titan masters. Guard it from what? Were the Old Gods still a threat?

Whisper 8

"Here, this fragment speaks of "The Winged Legions of Y'Shaarj." Servents of an Old God? Could this mean the mantid?

Whisper 9

"This runestone is more recent than the others. Something about "the sleeping keeper." I think it's referring to Ra-den. But why was he asleep?"

Whisper 10

"You've found another piece of the puzzle! This was carved by the mogu. They were frustrated - a thousand years with no orders from their master, and their bodies had turned to flesh. The mogu began to argue among themselves."

Whisper 11

"Hmm, this runestone speaks of Mogu savagery. They fell apart into warrior clans. But one king was more ambitious than the others. Lei Shen, the Thunder King. When the Titan Keeper fell silent, Lei Shen decided to speak for him."

Whisper 12
"Ah, the final piece of the puzzle. The Thunder King took on the powers of Ra-den, the very essence of a Titan. He united the Mogu into an empire, and tried to continue the Titans' work. Of course he saw himself as a god. Quickly, return to me at the Veiled Stair. We should talk face to face."

Kommentar von dukeofdarkness

Well, 2 runs of last 2 wings in LFR and zero drops from 12 bosses - anyone else got any better luck than me, to get to some idea of drop rate?

Kommentar von Mandie

Whisper 1

Image of Wrathion whispers : According to this runestone, the mogu were Titan constructs, soulless creatures built of stone. We suspected as much.

Kommentar von JeremyAvalon

Each time you loot one of these (up until you get the 12 required for the quest), an Abbild von Furorion will (should!) appear briefly to speak to you and translate the stone. Each line is voice-acted, so keep your game sound on!
Sometimes it appears that Wrathion bugs out and does not translate the runestone for you. Unfortunately there is no way to make him deliver the lines a second time as far as I know. But fear not! Here are the whispers you receive (Spoilers ensue, obviously!):

#1. According to this runestone, the mogu were Titan constructs, soulless creatures built of stone. We suspected as much.

#2. You've found another stone! What have we learned? The "curse of flesh" made the mogu mortal. Ah - but later, they found a way to reverse the process. A clever race.

#3. The mogu served a Titan keeper. His name was "Ra." In the mogu tongue, "Ra-den" means "Master Ra." Fascinating! I must know more!

#4. According to this, the mogu and their master were sent to Pandaria. They were pursuing a great darkness - ah, the fragment is incomplete. We must find others.

#5. Here, there is mention of an Old God. "Y'Shaarj." A beast with seven heads, who breathed darkness. I suspect that thing was the source of the sha that haunts Pandaria to this day.

#6. This runestone speaks of a cradle of life, a place where the Titans could create new creatures. Oh, of course! The Vale of Eternal Blossoms. It was a living laboratory, much like Un'Goro Crater or Sholazar Basin.

#7. We're beginning to put the pieces together, champion. The mogu were created and sent here to guard the Vale for their Titan masters. Guard it from what? Were the Old Gods still a threat?

#8. Here, this fragment speaks of "The Winged Legions of Y'Shaarj." Servants of an Old God? Could this mean the mantid?

#9. This runestone is more recent than the others. Something about "the sleeping keeper." I think it's referring to Ra-den. But why was he asleep?

#10. You've found another piece of the puzzle! This was carved by the mogu. They were frustrated - a thousand years with no orders from their master, and their bodies had turned to flesh. The mogu began to argue among themselves.

#11. Hmm, this runestone speaks of Mogu savagery. They fell apart into warrior clans. But one king was more ambitious than the others. Lei Shen, the Thunder King. When the Titan Keeper fell silent, Lei Shen decided to speak for him.

#12. Ah, the final piece of the puzzle. The Thunder King took on the powers of Ra-den, the very essence of a Titan. He united the Mogu into an empire, and tried to continue the Titans' work. Of course he saw himself as a god. Quickly, return to me at the Veiled Stair. We should talk face to face.

The voicework for these lines is available here (YouTube link).

Thanks to the commenters below for most of the lines. <3 Mirthstrike, lapeto, Dolnarian, Terrasai, and Alwayslast.

Kommentar von Equiniox

According to atlasloot they only drop from the 7th to 11th boss, Lei shen drops the heart of the thunder king which you probably need to get after the titan runestones. (I cannot 100% confirm this) Also it looks like this is gonna take a long time again.

Kommentar von Mantrhax

And then blizzard lost 1.3 million subscribers, i really dont know why O_o lol ohhh i do !

Kommentar von therydan

I find it interesting and a little confusing that "Y'Shaarj" who is the old god the mantid worships, admitted by the klaxxi themselves, get corrupted by sha energy who wrathion now assume comes from the very same old god?

Anyone else has a take on this?

Kommentar von 250679

I've seen it stated earlier that these only drop if you have the meta gem equipped, but at least as of patch 5.3 that is incorrect. I got my first with the meta in my bag (still having awful luck on helmet drops).

Kommentar von Willemsii

Can anyone tell me that those Runestones drops when I'm already saved for the boss loot? Or can I receive the Runestones only once a week?

Kommentar von 121744

I am unclear as to what "once per week per boss" means for the drops on these. Does it mean that you could conceivably keep doing these runs each week until you got a drop off of each boss, or does it mean that once you have killed a boss that is your one chance per week for that boss. If it is the latter than 12 total chances per week with a poor drop rate sounds like a real drag.

Kommentar von JulesPeace

They only drop from the last 6 bosses. The Drop rate should be very likely around 25% (I analyzed the data I got from friends and guild mates), meaning you can be terribly unlucky or terribly lucky. On Average you'll have all 12 after 8 weeks.

EDIT: As you get one 100% from Lei Shen since today (12-06-13), you now need on Average 6 weeks. (2,25 Runestones per week)

Kommentar von Pzypro

I'm somewhat annoyed by this quest. First they make you grind 20 secrets of the empire. Then after you finally finish that (took me about 8 weeks of full clears) they make you go right back to grind the exact same bosses you were doing before, for 12 more runestones (I'm predicting these will take about another 2 months). I understand that wow is a grind and they need to "stretch" content but this is so blatant it just feels lame.

To me, the only interesting part of the questline thus far has been the 2 battles while Wrathion was making and imbuing the spear. The fights were actually challenging and interesting (and I admit I died several times against the giant Sha in the forge lol). everything else was just one really, really long and mindless grind.

edit: finished this quest now. Took me 6 weeks to finish it. Got 1, 1, 3, 2, 2, 3 titanstone drops per week respectively by killing 6 LFR bosses every week. I believe that during my last two weeks of farming the droprate got buffed so that Lei Shen always drops one. That certainly helped.

Kommentar von 1025108

With the recent hotfix, this can ~~now~~ drop with 100% from Lei Shen.

Edit: This will included in the next ID
thx@ Cozzene

For players that are on the legendary quest line, Lei Shen will now always drop a Titan Runestone. This is similar to what we did with rare drops in the past and will help players that have been experiencing really bad luck.

Source

Kommentar von BoTToX

Got 5 the first week and for 6 last weeks i don't got any Echoes of the titans : (

Kommentar von gtadem

There is no such thing as LFR. Raid Finder is abbreviated RF. Raid Finder is the name of the UI function. Raid Finder can be found on every piece of gear and/or tier token on the RF difficulty. Saying LFR is the equivalent of typing your when you mean you're.

Kommentar von Lotteri

Lei Shen will now always drop a Titan Runestone or Secrets of the Empire for players that are on the legendary quest line.

This was taken from the June 10th hotfix. Now it can take exactly 12 weeks to complete this quest :D

Kommentar von Geshtar

Lei Shen now has a 100% drop rate of this item for those on the quest

Kommentar von Lulleh

For those who want to keep one for what ever reason, de-stacking these work (turning in the Quest with 12 in one stack and 1 in a separate stack.) Turning this in with all 13+ in the same stack will remove the whole stack. (Confirmed by 2 guild mates.)

For those who has to know why I did this; I'm just a collector, legendaries being among the items of interest. (Got 15 on my Warrior).

Kommentar von Ental

I can confirm that if you do the bosses earlier in the week, and then pick up Echoes of the Titans, you will NOT get any drops. I tried to see if anyone actually tested it; since I found none, I went ahead and ran Pinnacle of Storms after receiving quest from Wrathion. I killed Lei Shen and did not receive my 100% Runenstein der Titanen.

I am not surprised, as once you kill the boss, you have no other chance of receiving the drop each week.

But now it is confirmed!

Kommentar von Arawena

Can I use my Mogu Runes of Fate to get them?

Kommentar von Varun

Given that you will now always get one from Lei Shen, and a 25% drop rate, the chances for getting more from the other 5 bosses in the raid week are as follows:

0.098% chance to get 5
1.6% chance to get 4 or more
10.4% chance to get 3 or more
36.7% chance to get 2 or more
76.3% chance to get 1 or more

So consider yourself lucky if you get 2 or more, and unlucky if you get none :)

And for some more stats, if you are just starting to collect:

10% chance to finish in 4 weeks
44% chance to finish in 5 weeks
80% chance to finish in 6 weeks
96% chance to finish in 7 weeks
99% chance to finish in 8 weeks

This includes Lei Shen's guaranteed stone.

Kommentar von themoop

Titan Runestone

- Drop from Last 2 wings of ToT ( Pinnacle of Storms, Halls of Flesh-Shaping ) on either normal, heroic or LFR,
You won't get any extra runestones from lfr if you already did normal ( 1 per boss shared on normal, heroic and lfr)

- 100% drop chance from Lei Shen AND Ra-den . If you clear them both every single week you have guaranteed 2 Runestones per week making it at most 6 weeks of farming ToT.

- Last "farm" quest before getting the cloak!

Kommentar von Arakara

Yesterday, I got 3 runestones, and it's my first week with this quest. :)

Kommentar von 475386

Now on my 5th week and have 8/12. The first few weeks I got 2 each reset. The past 2 weeks I've only got the guarenteed one off LS. I could of coped with 2 a week but if I only get 1 per week from now on I may have to cry. 4 more weeks. Other then to add my whinge to the numerous below I have no point. I expect the next patch will come out in the next month and I'd like to get it complete before then please Blizz. Lovely ta.

Kommentar von Turpentine

This is a continuation of the post originally made for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches, detailing the per character drops of Runenstein der Titanen for the quest Echos der Titanen.

Despite the guaranteed drop from Lei Shen, this part of the legendary quest line turned out to take more time than the previous one involving Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches.

As before, I noted the drop rate of the Runenstein der Titanen on a per week (lockout) basis. Both characters were done entirely in LFR. One character is on Horde side (PvP server) and one on Alliance (PvE server).

The below breaks down as follows: 1/6 (10) would denote 1 item dropped from 6 bosses defeated, with a total of 10 Titan Runestones accumulated (grand total towards the quest requirement of 12).

Character 1:

Week 1 - 1/2 (1)
Week 2 - 3/6 (4)
Week 3 - 2/6 (6)
Week 4 - 2/6 (8)
Week 5 - 2/6 (10)
Week 6 - 2/4 (12)

Character 2:

Week 1 - 0/0 (0)*
Week 2 - 1/2 (1)
Week 3 - 2/6 (3)
Week 4 - 3/6 (6)
Week 5 - 3/6 (9)
Week 6 - 1/6 (10)
Week 7 - 1/6 (11)
Week 8 - 1/6 (12)

*Character 2 used up 20 boss kills (so almost two lockouts/weeks) to finish up the "Secrets of the Empire" questline and only had 2 bosses left for that week (week 2) to start the Runenstein der Titanen questline. Character 1 used 6 weeks to collect all 12 Titan Runestones and Character 2 needed 7 weeks to collect all 12 Runenstein der Titanen. Both characters started the Echos der Titanen quest after changes made to the drop rate of Lei Shen. Thus, each character was guaranteed at least one Titan Runestone per week.

Kommentar von 475386

Success! Well......... of a sort. Did raid three first. Won nothing. Slightly panicking i enter the last raid. First boss nothing. Now brown trousering it for England i start the twin consorts. Tick tick ticking away at them. 1% left i look to the heavens and utter my first ever prayer. POW! Titan Runestone. Praying works. I shall be acquiring a lotto ticket later and repeating the secret prayer of the Runestone as i am exhausted and sick of working.

I digress. I got my guaranteed drop from Thunder King and a bonus of “ Rune of Re origination “ ( sp ) not the best trinket for a BM hunter but it replaces the Dalaran Faire 476 trinket i have been sporting for some time and when it procs it gives me 14500 extra crit which isn’t to be sniffed at.

Anyhow. With my 12/12 Titan rune stones in hand i go to Wratharion and collect the next quest which is to go back in and re kill the Thunder King and get his heart. Pretty pleased i made it this far. I know i am way behind some but this is more for those of you that are just starting the 12 collection. You will get there and we still have at least a few weeks till the new patch comes out.

Cheers all ( sp ) ( sp ) ( sp )

Kommentar von Magulas

I find all of the comments that are complaints about either time spent to collect these items, having to do two collections for the same raid and bad rng about drops mildly amusing. I think in the long run it was nice of blizz to give out welfare legendaries at this point. But i think you all need to compare this quest chain with those of Shadowmourne, Dragonwrath, and the daggers from Dragon Soul, you will see that the steps for this whole quest line fall in with the previous models for legendary quest lines. What really makes the MoP model different is the power level of the items you get along the way. +500 stat gem, weapon socket, OP meta gem, Cloak, and from what i've read about 5.4 you will be able to upgrade the cloak pretty much as soon as the patch hits, thus allowing the use of the final item for the duration of the final raid tier for this expansion. The same certainly cannot be said for the DS daggers and Shadowmourne.

Kommentar von ED209

Titan Runestones will be able to drop from the first 8 bosses of the Siege of Orgrimmar for those that are currently on the quest when the patch goes live. For those wondering, it's from Immerseus up to and including the General Nazgrim.

Edited to correct information (thanks, Grabovsky!)

Kommentar von gr33nzo

I've been keeping track of drops on my main, the whole process took 8 weeks. Been also keeping tabs on my alt, it appears that it's unlikely you'll get more than 2 a week by just running Throne of Thunder. Now that the first 6 bosses of Siege also drops these, it should speed up this process considerably. Good luck, the legendary cloak is well worth it.

Week 1: bosses killed: 4, Runestones: 2
Week 2: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 2
Week 3: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 1
Week 4: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 2
Week 5: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 1
Week 6: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 1
Week 7: bosses killed: 6, Runestones: 2
Week 8: bosses killed: 3, Runestones: 1

Kommentar von Velaya

I just signed up to post this:
Although you can read here, that during one lockout, you can only get a runestone the first time you kill a boss, I went pinnacle of storms on wednesday, got no stone from Iron-Qon and now I went there again, to help out someone, and received a runestone from Iron-Qon. I did not roll or something. Very mysterical.

But Lei-Shen did not drop a second one, I received the 100% drop on wednesday...

Kommentar von 389046

I am on week 7 and have a total of 8 ... 1 per week off Lei Shen and got lucky one week with 2nd one ... 4 more to go should take me another month at this rate

Kommentar von Aquilani

3 straight weeks of only getting 1 off of lei shen.. awesome!

Kommentar von 711458

Today was my first day collecting these. Got 2 out of Pinnacle and 1 out of Halls.

Kommentar von 1125376

I got 4 the first week and after that... Hell took over. I was getting 1 from Lei-Shen each and every week for 7 weeks, including this reset.

Simply eph you, Bizzard.

Kommentar von 1123984

can these still drop after killing the bosses per week?

Kommentar von 1144215

Does anyone know if these will drop from all bosses of ToT in 5.4 or just the last 6?

Kommentar von perculia

In 5.4, these will also have a chance to drop from the first eight bosses in Schlacht um Orgrimmar, as well as the last six in Der Thron des Donners.

Kommentar von Mahoraba

Obviously, this could be just luck but I just started Titan Runestones last week right before patch 5.4 and I got 1 Runestone from Lei Shen and started the week of 5.4, with 1 Runestone.

I did Flex and got 1 stone from Immerseus and one from Sha of Pride, I thought okay cool this is going good from what I've heared that the drop rate prior to 5.4, was bad.

Today, I do Part 3 LFR and get 2 Runestones again 1 from Primodius and 1 from Dark Animus and as we speak I'm in queue for Part 4! I'll no matter what get to 6/12 Runestones and have gotten at least 5 Stones in one week which is WAY better then my Secrets were as I only ever got 4 max from those before 5.4.

So far, I feel as if the drop rate was increased by a lot with 5.4.

Edit: Well, I 'may' have just been a little excited as I only got my guaranteed one from Lei Shen on Part 4 but still I did get 5 Runestones this week which IMO is vastly better then the nightmares I've heared.

Kommentar von ADneo

These now also drop from SOO

Kommentar von cstober2010

Maybe I am unlucky but it sure doesnt feel like the drop rate was increased. I just did the last 6 bosses of ToT and only got a gaurenteed runestone off Lei Shen. At this rate...sigh

Kommentar von 1144215

can confirm, dont know if this is a bug, but i got 2 from siege of orgimmar Flex raid and then did normal the next day and got my last titan runestone! although i think it may be a bug but i got lucky i suppose!

Kommentar von forkinater

It can be a little confusing at first read but just so everyone knows, along with your chances to get titan runestones from tot lfr or normal, you can get the runestones to drop from flex siege of org and then do lfr or normal or heroic SoO but not all 3 modes to get another chance on the same week. Flex has a separate lockout from lfr/normal/heroic SoO

So to reiterate if you did flex siege of org, you can get another chance from each boss to get a runestone if you run lfr or normal or heroic SoO

Remember though that you can't get a runestone from normal or heroic SoO if you already did lfr SoO or vice versa but you can get a chance at getting runestones from flex if you did normal or heroic or lfr since normal/heroic and lfr SoO share the same runestone lockout but flex SoO is separate.

I tried tried explain this as simply as I could because it can seem confusing with all the different lockouts. Hope this clears up any misconceptions about which modes you can do to get your titan runestones.

On a separate note you will still get chance at gear from each SoO mode.

Kommentar von 1145921

Thought I'd mention here, since I just found out firsthand, I had finished my Secrets of the Empire this week and cleared wings of ToT & SoO LFR for them quickly.

Having done this I figured I would be able to go and kill the bosses again for a chance to drop a Titan Runestone. This is not the case, and you may not loot both off of the same boss in one week. Only bosses you had not killed prior to obtaining all 20 and turning in the quest.

Hopefully someone finds this helpful!

Kommentar von 691674

from what I have witnessed, the drop rate of these have increased dramatically in 5.4 and I dont mean because we have more bosses that drop them, I got 5 in one week 4 of them in ToT (not counting Lei Shen so I still got his heart the same week) and Im not the only one Ive seen this happen too.

Kommentar von jam0199

Based on the confirmations below, I expected to have this questline finished last night since I'm 10/12.

I ran Normal SoO last week, received 3 runestones out of 13 bosses. Did Flex Raid last night, with no Titan Runestones dropping out of all 8 available bosses. 2 of my guildies are also collecting the runestones as well and reported that they did not receive any either. My guess is this was indeed a bug that was unfortunately fixed, or we have really bad RNG among the 3 of us.

Kommentar von Kuchzz

I will leave it here in case if someone was looking the same information as i. Drop from different difficulties is completely the same. http://blues.wowraider.net/blue/us2/9245914621/Titan-Runestone-Drop-Rate

Kommentar von ZeeStorm

SoO has definitely made this a lot easier. The last 2 parts of ToT I got 1 runestone each (33%), both parts of SoO LFR I got 2 runestones each (50%). I ended by last Secrets piece on the first 2 parts of ToT (I only needed 2, so it wasn't difficult to get them in those 2 runs). Maybe it was just my luck, but getting 6 my first week, I'm extremely thankful. I'm getting tired of this questline already (I did most of it pre-5.4, just took forever to get secrets). I'll probably try to flex part 3 now that it's open this week to see if I can pick up another one or two, in hopes to guarantee a completion next week.

Kommentar von 1148393

In my experience these do indeed no longer drop from both flex and LFR. Ran the last two of LFR ToT and the first two of LFR SoO and got a lousy 3 runestones (incl. Lei shen), ran flex 1+2 after that and got none.
Imo they should increase the droprate.. its just getting silly having to wait 4 weeks to progress further in a quest line..

Kommentar von 796149

These can drop from any difficulty in SoO as well. That means LFR/Normal/Flex/Heroic. I just looted one from the first boss.

Kommentar von Elfcrusher

Anybody know if you can still get these if you get the quest then go back and re-kill LFR/flex bosses you've already killed for the week?

In other words:
1) Run LFR
2) Finish grinding exalted with Wrathion and get the Titan Runestones quest
3) Go back and run the same LFR again, in the same reset.

Possible?

Kommentar von 1063987

Can anyone confirm getting one of these from a boss in Flex/LFR and also getting an epic drop from the same boss? Having tried this on 2 characters I'm convinced that bosses are dropping these *instead of* loot, rather than *in addition to* it.

Kommentar von bigtiger

They must have increased the drop rate of these. I did 4 bosses in LFR (1 lei shen) and wing 1 flex and received SIX. YAY ME!

Kommentar von 387891

As of 5.4, both Lei Shen and the Sha of Pride are guaranteed to drop a Runestone (or indeed, a Siegel der Macht, Siegel der Weisheit or Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches).

Blizzard's CMs have confirmed you cannot run one boss for one type of Legendary quest item and then run it again for a successive item:

It's only 1 attempt per boss per week across all difficulties.

If you already completed Siege of Orgrimmar wings 1 and 2 for Secrets of the Empire they won't drop a Titan Runestone. If you haven't completed Throne of Thunder wings 3 and 4 though, you can run that with Lei Shen being a 100% guaranteed drop..

As a side note, only the first 8 bosses in SoO have a chance (Sha of Pride is 100% guaranteed just like Lei Shen) to drop items for Wrathion's legendary quest line.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10137754011#2

Kommentar von forkinater

I consider myself very lucky.
I started the quest to get the titan runestones right when Siege of Org came out. Below I will list how many runestones my character got.

Week 1: 3 runestones from 6 lfr tot bosses, and 8 normal SoO bosses killed

Week 2: 3 runestones from 6 lfr tot bosses, 8 normal SoO bosses and 4 flex bosses killed.

Week 3: 3 runestones from 6 lfr tot bosses, 8 normal SoO bosses and 4 flex bosses killed.

Week 4: 2 runestones from 6 lfr tot bosses, 8 normal SoO bosses and 8 flex bosses killed.

Week 5: 1 runestone from lfr Iron Qon.

Would have been amazing to finish it in 4 weeks but I can't complain. I feel lucky for being able to do it in 5 weeks. Good luck to those that are on the gathering quests for wrathion.

Kommentar von 1168413

Don't let the time estimates deter you. Note that most of them were computed when you only had the last two wings of ToT to obtain these. With the addition of SoO you now have many more bosses to obtain these from.

Also, a word of advice. If you are nearing the end of the quest, save Lei Shen for last, as you will be tasked to kill him and obtain his heart shortly thereafter. This could save you another week.

Kommentar von masvan

i must have been extremely lucky because i am 11/12 in just under two weeks

Kommentar von J2GKaze

Is it possible to get more than 1 Runenstein der Titanen from the same boss by changing difficulty? Friend says you could for secrets and runestones and its been confirmed for secrets that you can't, but I haven't seen any info on the runestones.

Any info on that would be appreciated.

Kommentar von Siknevl

I got to this part late due to the sigil fiasco ( I had 27 wisdom and 10 power by the end). I have ran every ToT boss since the 5.4 was live. I only have 11 currently. This week was especially unnerving due to the fact that I ran the SoO bosses as well. 27 boss fights and only 2 stones. Drop rate is terrible. Don't get too excited for you will be grinding a very long time. Expect nothing and it will be tolerable. :P

Kommentar von 1189141

Hey guys I have been asking around and cannot get an answer,

If you do lets say the last 4 bosses in LFR ToT, and do not get a drop for maybe 2/4 bosses,
Can you then do normal ToT and have a chance to receive a Titan Runestone on the 2 bosses that i did NOT receive a runestone in during my LFR run.

Would absolutely love a reply!
Cheers!

Kommentar von killerwolf84

can any one verify of denounce that if you do lfr then flex will the rune stones still drop

Kommentar von Darlanio

My observations so far on droprates are that 10man drops more often than LFR. Can anyone confirm this? In LFR only drops for me comes from Sha of Pride and Lei Chen, in 10 man almost all bosses have dropped Titan Runestones.

Kommentar von 10427

Blizzard should really up the drop rate on these and the secrets drops. Most guilds won't touch ToT with a ten foot pole these days and while adding the SoO bosses in there is nice it's still frustrating to have to farm 20 items and then go back and farm another 12, (13 if you count the heart).

Kommentar von Chairz

I received 6 of these in one day off LFR/Flex difficulty.

*Insert Lou Gehrig Illness Quote here*

Kommentar von 1194630

If you loot on lfr, whether you get it or not, can you then loot on normal or heroic during the same week?

Kommentar von Slaktmaskin

I just finished the quest. Can you jump back in LFR (even if you've allready looted the bosses) and have a chance of getting the Runestones?

Kommentar von Briandris

I just wanted to say to the people posting that the legendary chain should be nerfed and the legendary quest items (secrets, runestones etc) should have their drop rates increased that both of these requests have been met by Blizzard. The quest "A Test of Valor" has been nerfed from 6000vp down to 3000vp. That reduces the time it takes by HALF. Three weeks instead of six weeks. The quest items now drop from many more raid bosses than before as well. There was a time when you had to go to a specific raid for specific quest drops. Now the items drop from almost every raid and boss. So no matter which part of the chain you are on you can do raids that could still provide gear upgrades. They've even made Lei Shen in Throne of Thunder and Sha of Pride in Siege of Orgrimmar guarantee 1 quest item per week. So although the drop rates haven't been increased you have MANY more chances to get your items each week if you are so determined.

Please remember that this is a LEGENDARY cloak with an item level of 600 ~~(608 if you upgrade it)~~ The cloak now includes the item level upgrades and is 608 when you receive it. That's at 47 ilvl's higher than regular mode raiding gear without EVER having to commit to that level of time or performance. It's not meant to be easy. If you want something this AWESOME please suck it up and put half the work in that the players who've kept up with the chain since the beginning have.

Edit: 20 votes:) Thank you all.
Edit: 50 votes. Thanks everyone, I think I'm finally figuring out how to post appropriately:)
Edit: I've been doing LFR on 3 toons gathering Secrets of the Empire and Titan Runestones. Previously when we had the Gaze of the Black Prince I had 14/20 secrets drop in one week. Last week on my first toon I received 13/20 secrets and on my second toon I received 11/20 secrets. On another toon I received my last 4 titan runestones. The first 2 toons did all eligible LFR's for drops and the 3rd toon completed 2 eligible LFR's. I also have one other toon who has not been as faithful but is still at 9/20 secrets. This leads me to believe the drop rate with the buff is close to 50%.

Also, I can confirm that, although you can not go back to the same bosses for the next part of the collection of Sigils, Secrets and Runestones, you CAN go back to loot the heart from Lei Shen after you have looted him that week. You will not get a loot bag or gear from him but you will be able to loot the Heart of the Thunder King.

Kommentar von 1197632

Can you get Titan Runestone from Coins?

Kommentar von 1065597

I can confirm that you cannot loot bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches to complete Echos der Titanen and then rerun the same bosses in the same week to get Runenstein der Titanen. The only boss you can run twice to complete the legendary line seems to be Lei Shen, and this is to loot Herz des Donnerkönigs to complete Herz des Donnerkönigs once you have completed Echos der Titanen. Your can loot a single Runenstein der Titanen and then go back for the Herz des Donnerkönigs. This appears to be the only shortcut in terms of looting things to get your cloak

Kommentar von Tyga

Titan Runestones drop resets when LFR resets, at 3 AM PST

Kommentar von heartcrash

i started monday night, got 7 of em before reset and finished up with the last 5 today. 12 in two days, much quicker than it used to be.

Kommentar von jellie

I am very annoyed by this atm. I just did the last 6 ToT and first 8 SoO bosses and got 2 runestones total. I came into the week needing only 4, the only 2 I got were the sure things from lei shen and sha of pride. If you need anything more then two don't go into the week thinking you will get them because you will be greatly disappointed like I am right now. I knew the drop raid was crappy but I didn't think it was that crappy.

Kommentar von borcar

loot drop seems off not even the 100% guaranteed are dropping all the time. have had for 11 weeks still not halfway there and the quest is in my books.

Kommentar von Rossit

I'd love if Blizzard would give some credit to those that have the Cape on one char already. Putting people through the pan of so many LFR's is just ........ well ruins the enjoyment of the game. Surely the drop rate could increase for Alts who's mains have the Cape. I will say well done to Blizz for allowing Alts to access Ordos.

Kommentar von Jumentum

Just confirmed that you can get a from the first 8 bosses at SoO!
Looted 1 from Sha of Pride.
Also having the Leg.Meta Gem equipped it is NOT necessary!
Best of luck!

Kommentar von Vickaty

Honestly i was expecting some kind of 1 loot every 4 or 5 bosses.. but today in my first time i got 6 and still 3 more bosses to go..!

Kommentar von whup

Good to see these stack to 999, so they don't end up cluttering your bags.

Kommentar von Majesty

Rewriting this to make it clearer with how drops for Wrathion's Legendary drops work in Patch 5.4.

The chance for the item to drop is one attempt per eligible boss, per week across all difficulties.
The chance for the item to drop is the same regardless of difficulty mode.
Lei Shen and Sha of Pride are 100% guaranteed to drop the item that you need.
- Note: If you have already obtained a drop for a different item earlier in the week such as Secrets of the Empire, they will not drop a Titan Runestone if they are defeated again in the same week.

For The Strength of One's Foes where you collect 10xSigil of Power and 10xSigil of Wisdom they can drop from bosses in the following locations:

Mogu'shan Vaults
Heart of Fear
Terrace of Endless Spring
Throne of Thunder
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution

For Secrets of the First Empire where you collect 20xSecrets of the Empire, it can drop from bosses in the following locations:

Throne of Thunder
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution

For Echoes of the Titans where you collect 12xTitan Runestone. The item can drop from:

Throne of Thunder (only wings 3 and 4)
- Halls of Flesh-Shaping
- Pinnacle of Storms
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution

Kommentar von 1213200

Okay, from what I have seen, I am EXTREMELY Lucky!

I just accepted this quest on a wednesday and tried my best to get my 12 runestones. And after I killed 14 bosses (6bosses from ToT and 8 from SoO lfr) I managed to get 10 of the runestones. I've just recently killed 6 bosses in Flexible raid and haven't got a single one from it. If I'm lucky enough I'll get my last 2 runestones tomorrow! :)

Kommentar von Solutions

4 Wings of 2 Raids.

8 Bosses in Siege of Orgrimmar
6 Bosses in Throne of Thunder (+1 on Heroic Mode)

Total of 14 bosses (without Ra-den)

Minimum chance of getting a Runenstein der Titanen is 2.

100% Chance from Lei Shen and Sha des Stolzes.

12 Potentional drops with low drop rates.

Only one Runenstein der Titanen per boss.

Kommentar von Sabes

For the purpose of gathering these, Flex counts as the same lockout as Raid Finder, so if you already did Raid Finder, you will NOT get Runenstein der Titanens from Flex. Have fun!

Kommentar von Aressica

Hey i wanna know if I already did LFRs ToT and SoO last 6 and first 8 can i recieve more Runestones from Flex Raids ?

Kommentar von 172021

It's probably listed somewhere in these comments but:

Ra-Den also has a 100% drop rate.

So you have a 100% chance of getting 3 per week. If you clear HC ToT and kill Sha boss from Wing 1.

Please up-vote this so people can see in order to speed their progress up!

:)

Kommentar von Dasttann777

No matter what people might say, the drop rate of these on Sha of Pride is NOT 100%

Kommentar von Waxmylegs

I'm not saying this will happen to you, but it might help you figure out how the drop rate works.

The first week I cleared every single boss who could drop these runestones and I got two.
One from Lei Shen, and one from Sha of Pride. (Both have a 100% drop chance)

The second week I also cleared every single boss, and this time two dropped..
Also from Lei Shen and Sha of Pride. This does't look too good...

The third week I cleared all of the bosses who could possibly drop a runestone in hope of a miracle.
I'm not saying a miracle happend, but this week I got six runestones, with Lei Shen and Sha of Pride.

Now I am waiting for wednesday to come, so I can get my cape :)
Good luck all of you.

Kommentar von Jordanaxdkx

After mutiple wipes and a huge repair bill, I'm here to confirm that Titan Runestones are NOT a 100% drop from Sha of Pride flex mode.

Kommentar von Marbash

Been grinding for these idiots for about four weeks now. And now, I've got 11/12, and done all the lfrs this week. So I gotta wait until wednesday until I can start up with the rests of the buisness. I really hope that you will get some kind of bonus in WoD if you have completed this whole quest line.

Kommentar von 1226000

Doing a binomial distribution and assuming the drop rate of Runenstein der Titanen is 25%, the chances of getting x amount of runestones from the 14 bosses (Lei Shen and Sha of Pride 100% chances included) are as follows:

At least 3 runestones = 96.8%
At least 4 runestones = 84.2%
At least 5 runestones = 60.9%
At least 6 runestones = 35.1%
At least 7 runestones = 15.8%
At least 8 runestones = 5.4%

Kommentar von 1242976

Can anyone confirm if your titan runestones get deleted when you server transfer?

My brother currently has 9 but wants to server change (remain horde) but is fearful of losing his runestones.

Any enlightenment on how it works would be welcome, thanks

Kommentar von Herden

I am running 4 characters through this at the same time. Last week I got 5, 4, 6 and 5 Titan Runestones doing the 14 LFR bosses.
This week I have done all 14 LFR bosses on four characters. 3, 4, 6, and 3.

I got very lucky and got 12 Runestones in two weeks on my Monk (14th boss dropped the last one). From there I was able to loot the Thunder King's Heart after killing him a second time. And tagging the Celestials was enough to count for kills.

Kommentar von ahunter8056

Either I had really good luck, or the Titan Runestones have a lot better drop rate than the Secrets Of The Empire. I did the 4 raids that had a chance to drop the Titan Runestones, and I got 7 Titan Runestones out of them. That's over half in my first week!

A guild member also suggested to use a Potion Of Luck just before engaging the boss and a Titan Runestone will drop. I tried it, but it didn't work. However another guild member said that they had also tried it, and got 2 Secrets Of The Empire from 2 bosses.

Kommentar von 69178

In case you're wondering, you cannot loot your twelfth Runenstein der Titanen (since it's guaranteed) from Lei Shen, port out to Wrathion and complete the quest, picking up the Herz des Donnerkönigs quest, port back in and loot the heart from him. You must kill him separately once you have obtained this quest. Just pray you get into an LFR group that has 2/3 finished.

Kommentar von 165964

Just to add some numbers considering droprate. This is my 2nd character doing the legendary chain. It took me 4 weeks to get all runestones. The number before the slash is how many I got, the number after the slash is how many I could've gotten in that area if RNGesus had been with me. All bosses were done on either lfr or flex.

Week 1:
Halls of Flesh-Shaping: 1/3
Pinnacle of Storms: 1/3
Vale of Eternal Sorrows: already saved to the bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Gates of Retribution: 0/4

Total after week 1: 2/12

Week 2:
Halls of Flesh-Shaping: 1/3
Pinnacle of Storms: 0/3 (long queue times so did not get to do Lei Shen :()
Vale of Eternal Sorrows: 2/4
Gates of Retribution: 0/4

Total after week 2: 5/12

Week 3:
Halls of Flesh-Shaping: 0/3
Pinnacle of Storms: 3/3
Vale of Eternal Sorrows: 2/4
Gates of Retribution: 0/4

Total after week 3: 10/12

Week 4:
To finish it off I did the Vale of Eternal Sorrows and Pinnacle of Storms to get my last 2 from Sha of Pride and Lei Shen.

These are of course completely random numbers, but perhaps give some insight in your chances and how long it might take. Then again, as off 5.4.8 the quest line will be sped up thanks to Blick des Schwarzen Prinzen, so for alts I suggest waiting til then ;).

Kommentar von 1123931

Currently working on this quest.

I have 5/12, and I just started today.

Hopefully this will all be over soon.

Kommentar von 806666

yea, so, as usual, bllizz loves to give us things without us knowing how to actually get them , like that quest with the spearing of Nalak, and 2'nd part of the quest is to unlock the Foot of Lei Shen. I loved that quest because I had no friggin clue how to unlock the foot of friggin Lei Shen cause IT DOESN'T FRIGGIN SAY HOW. So I started doing LFR to get up to Lei Shen, got up to Lei Shen, nuked Lei Shen, and guess what, quest still not completed. So I started googling like a tard, and after over half a hour of googling I finally found a forum where some guys were talking about this and it seems that you actually have to do some chain solo scenarios and the last one actually unlocks the damned foot of Lei Shen. After this, of course I got the titan runestone quest and guess what, I couldn;t get any titan runestones from the LFR I just did before hoping to unlock the friggin foot of Lei Shen. And now I am gathering titan runestones for the 2'nd week and guess what :)) I have 11/12 and I must wait another week to get another one.
Point is: guys, the unlocking of the foot of Lei Shen is actually the final stage of a solo scenario you get from Island of Thunder from Jaina ( I think, or from Vanessa), don't go doing LFR and then not getting any runestones from the bosses you already did.
Good luck, and I hope this info helps you guys.
By the way, Blizz should have made it easier to get the legendary cloak on your alts... cause it really is a %^&*! farming all those things all over again.

Kommentar von 1310431

You can't get Runenstein der Titanen from Sha des Stolzes or any other SoO boss on flex difficulty if you have killed and looted them for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches during the same week on lfr difficulty. This is based on my experience as I didn't receive any runestones even though it should be a guaranteed drop from the Sha des Stolzes. Whether you'll get them from normal or heroic difficulty under the same circumstances remains uncertain.

Kommentar von searodent2001

During the buff they gave us (gaze of the black prince) I got all the secrets done during that time which was very nice, now with the runestones....I am only seeing them drop on the sha and lei shein. I'm not sure if its just me or if Blizz is being really stingy in the aftermath of that really nice buff they gave us.

Kommentar von Dondocool

I'm wondering, if you do LFR for these, can you get some more in Normal mode?

Kommentar von chrisbrasil

okay here is a question say I killed all 3 bosses in the vale and the only ones who dropped a rune for the legend quest was the 2nd boss and the sha of pride if I go flex for the vale later that day or (week) is there a chance I can still get a chance to get a rune from the 1st boss that never dropped one on lfr?

Kommentar von TriZARAtops

Okay, so I've done this now 7 times, so I thought I'd share some insight and some collection rates so people can get an idea of what to expect. Unfortunately the purity of my data is altered due to the Gaze of the Black Prince buff and its lovely increased drop rates. I hope that by providing this information you are at least able to see some contrast between how random unbuffed drops are and how buffed they really can be, even with luck playing such a huge role.

On my first cloak I actually didn't record the drop rates for anything so that information is excluded from this list.

Paladin (#2)
Week 1: 5 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 2: 4 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 3: 4 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 4: 7 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 4: 4 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 5: 8 Runenstein der Titanen*

Mage (#3)
Week 1: 7 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 2: 7 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 3: 6 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 3: 3 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 4: 5 Runenstein der Titanen*
Week 5: 4 Runenstein der Titanen

Priest (#4)
Week 1: 11 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 6 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 3: 3 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches
Week 3: 8 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 4: 4 Runenstein der Titanen*

Druid (#5)
Week 1: 11 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 9 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 2 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 3: 6 Runenstein der Titanen
Week 4: 4 Runenstein der Titanen

Warlock (#6)
Week 1: 10 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 10 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 3 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 3: 3 Runenstein der Titanen
Week 4: 3 Runenstein der Titanen
Week 5: 3 Runenstein der Titanen

Shaman (#7)
Week 1: 12 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 8 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches*
Week 2: 6 Runenstein der Titanen* (Partial run only; used bosses for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches)
Week 3: 6 Runenstein der Titanen* (Had the Black Prince buff for the first 4 Runestones. One of the last 2 I received was from Lei Shen, whom I had saved for his 100% drop.)

* denotes Gaze of the Black Prince buff was applied.

I'd like to confirm that you cannot loot Runenstein der Titanen from a boss after downing it for Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches in the same week, regardless of difficulty. You can, however, loot the Heart of the Thunder King from Lei Shen from him the same week that you loot your last Runenstein der Titanen.

And lastly, unlike the valor required for Tapferkeitsbeweis, you can farm up the 5k Timeless Coins before receiving the quest to do so, and I highly recommend that you do. Once you get your last Runenstein der Titanen you're really just a hop-skip-and-a-jump from your cloak. Also do not waste valor upgrading the epic cloak; once it becomes legendary it will automatically be at 2/4 upgrades so you will literally be wasting 500 vp. Save your valor and take it from 2/4 to 4/4.

Also:
Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches Drop in ALL wings in ToT (and Ra-den if you're doing heroic) and the first TWO wings of SoO.
Runenstein der Titanen Drop in the LAST two wings of ToT and the FIRST two wings in SoO.

Sorry for the long post. I hope all of this helps someone. Good luck!

Kommentar von Iceveiled

FWIW during gaze of the black prince I got 7 of these out of the 14 encounters that drop them, during one lockout period. That's a 50% chance. But the fact that Lei Shen drops one 100% of the time messes up the math. And I hate math so somebody else can figure that one out.

Kommentar von rchelly

Well I did 11 bosses today and got 2 runestones. And those were the 2 guaranteed ones. That was without the buff btw.

Kommentar von benx2011

Even Sha and Leishen have 100% drop rate, but you won't 100% get an extra one if you use your extra roll.

Kommentar von abgryan

Okay dropped just now from Immerseus & The Fallen Protectors!

Kommentar von Majeyelol

For those that get confused (like me), I have simplified which raids to queue up for in LFR below.

Halls of Flesh Shaping
Pinnacle of Storms
Vale of Eternal Sorrows
Gates of Retribution

Hope this helps!

Kommentar von pangel

You can loot the thunder king to do this quest (which is a guaranted drop) then come back in same week and loot it again for his heart :)

Kommentar von JoffeLainen

If you have killed a boss in LFR and do not get the Titan Runestone, you can try again in Flexible and loot it. Probably does not work if you looted it from the LFR version of the boss :)

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