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Kommentar von Milandas

Die anderen Schmuckstücke von Dunkelmondkartensets sind:

Reliquie von Xuen oder Reliquie von Xuen, die Questbelohnung der Quest Tigerkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts welche vom Tigerkartenset gestartet wird.
Relikt von Niuzao, die Questbelohnung der Quest Ochsenkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts welche vom Ochsenkartenset gestartet wird.
Reliquie von Yu'lon, die Questbelohnung der Quest Schlangenkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts welche vom Schlangenkartenset gestartet wird.

Jede Quest gibt 350 Ruf für die Fraktion Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkt

Die Karten für die Kartensets werden erzeugt von Geheimnis der Nebel oder Dunkelmond-Karte der Nebel

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Kommentar von 665258

New lv. 90 darkmoon card from MoP.

The item Kranichkartenset starts the quest Kranichkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts, that rewards Relikt von Chi-Ji.

Kommentar von Milandas

I wish the darkmoon card for healer has some Intellect like the lower level cards before.

Only spirit ist a little bit single-sided

Edit: My wish has come true :)

Kommentar von Milandas

The other Trinkets from Darkmoon-Cards are:

Reliquie von Xuen or Reliquie von Xuen, the Quest-Rewards from Tigerkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts which is started by Tigerkartenset.
Relikt von Niuzao, the Quest-Reward from Ochsenkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts which is started by Ochsenkartenset.
Reliquie von Yu'lon, the Quest-Reward from Schlangenkartenset des Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkts which is started by Schlangenkartenset.

For each Quest you gain 350 Reputation with Dunkelmond-Jahrmarkt

The Cards for the Decks are created by Geheimnis der Nebel or Dunkelmond-Karte der Nebel

Kommentar von 422399

Let me try to stop the QQ before it gets too far out of hand. The reason this trinket has Spirit on it is because in MoP Spirit is being buffed compared to Cata. In Cata intellect was both a throughput stat (HPS, healing per second) and a mana regeneration stat (MPS). In MoP intellect is only a throughput stat and will not affect mana regeneration.

Spirit is our exclusive man regeneration stat in MoP.

So this is a properly itemized trinket for healers in MoP.

Kommentar von Suzushiiro

This was changed from +spirit/spirit proc to +int/spirit proc, which means that instead of being BiS for regen it's now just a weaker Geister der Sonne. Healers (and their wallets) can now breathe a little easier, as the fact that you'll replace this in the middle of the current tier rather than the next one means that you don't have as much pressure to drop thousands of gold on the thing.

Kommentar von McMeyer

Have anyone been testing the proc on this Trinket on Beta?

If the proc has an internal CD of say 2 min, we have a +1157 int + 505 spirit (3027/120 sec* 20 sec).

So be that sounds pretty powerfull considering it's "only" a ilvl 476.

Compared to the "Scroll of Revered Ancestors" (Shadow-Pan rep. 1750VP trinket). This trinket is a ilvl489 with +1079 int +706 spirit (2822/60 sec * 15 sec use effect).

Kommentar von 310077

15% proc chance with 45sec ICD, according to EJ's resto shaman thread.

I can't do a proper comparison because wowhead's data on the procs of our trinkets appear to be inaccurate (LFR, normal, and heroic versions of other trinkets are listing the exact same proc numbers), however if EJ's numbers are correct, then this will definitely be better than every non-heroic trinket.

I suspect that most healers will not be replacing the trinket during this tier, it is clearly overbudget for its item level. Since I dislike the idea of Intellect procs from items such as Qin-Xi's Polarizing Seal, I'm considering this trinket to be BiS along with Spirit of the Sun.

Kommentar von 1041864

Just got my hands on this trinket. I can confirm that it is 45s ICD. Relatively high proc chance. It procs of any direct heals as well as hots. Tested on resto druid.

Kommentar von McMeyer

Accourding to Elitist Jerks the ICD is 45 sec

Source: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/t130574-resto_raid_healing_5_04_mop/#Trinkets

I have been testing the trinket and my numbers show that it in average procs every 50 seconds.

3027 * 20 sec / 50 sec = 1,210.8 spirit

Don't let the low itemlevel fool.

Kommentar von zomgname

This trinket has one of the prettiest procs in the game. Small swirly golden orbs, and it seems to turn other spells the same color, Holy Paladins Eternal Flame tornado animation turns white-gold and looks awesome.

Kommentar von Aevitas

What's weird about this item is that when you compare it to Reliquie von Yu'lon, which has passive intellect and procs intellect, and Reliquie von Xuen which has passive agility and procs agility, both have passive and primary stat procs. This trinket has a primary passive stat, and a secondary stat proc.

According to WowWiki's stat modifiers section:

Primary Stat (STR, AGI, INT, SPI) 1.00

Spirit is now a primary stat, which weighs as heavy on the item budget as Intellect and Agility do. This isn't reflected at all in the passive intellect on this item, which is 1156, compared to the Caster DPS' "mere" 956.

When you take a look at gems, the current spirit gem Funkelnder Chrysokoll provides 320 spirit where the current intellect gem Glänzender Rubellit provides 160 intellect. This would indicate that spirit is in fact cheaper on the item budget than intellect is. This would indicate that spirit is in fact not a primary stat, but a secondary. This is further backed up by the ability to reforge into and from spirit, which is only possible with secondary stats and item bonuses.

This does put this trinket in a bit of a weird spot to be, it "feels" as if the spirit proc is a bit low, and the additional intellect on it doesn't compensate for that. Seeing Spirit is now listed as a primary stat, rather than a secondary, you'd expect the same amount of intellect but a larger spirit proc - roughly twice as much as the respective intellect and agility procs, following the trend of gems and gear.

That's not the case however, which does raise the question: is this item possibly under budget, or are the respective other trinkets over budget?

Kommentar von 171906

The uptime is amazing. Looking at World of Logs

Against the Stone Guard a 7.5 minute fight for my guild the uptime was 42.3%. ~1260 spirit.

Against Feng ~8 minute fight the uptime was 43.6%. ~1290 spirit.

Kommentar von 870586

Relic of Chi Ji versus Spirits of the Sun(on normal, with 6908 spirit) (obviously from a healer PoV, because a spirit proc is useless for DPS, even if it equals hit):

1157 int vs 1152 int.
3027 spi for 20s on a 45s ICD vs 6908 spi for 20s on a 105s ICD.
Counting an average of 5 seconds before it procs:
SotS: 1152 int + 1256 spi average
RoCJ: 1157 int + 1210.8 spi average
The one has 5 more int and the other has 45 more spirit.
The Relic has a 20% proc chance (according to WoWHead), while Spirits has a 15% proc chance, BUT the Spirits procs off of spells doing healing, while Relic procs off of heals cast. This will work slightly in favour of the Spirits I suppose, netting that one a marginal win on stats. Also, Spirits could proc while you're NOT casting healing spells, which could either mean it's proc go into 'overregen' (if you allow me the word), or means less downtime on the proc.

Another difference is the way in which they proc. One could say that the Spirits has the second proc of Relic rolled into the first proc. Ie, if the Relic procs an odd number of times in a fight (say 5), then the Spirits would have procced 3 times, netting you more regen with the Spirits because the proc comes in bigger chunks. That argument goes the other way as well though: The first proc of such a regen trinket has a high chance of going to waste, because a number of fights don't require heavy healing at the beginning of a fight, so that Spirits will probably have more 'overregen'. Both of these effects will be less important the longer the fight lasts.

With all of this in mind, there's no telling which will be better. I think I'll take the Relic though, both because I can acquire it earlier (I'm a scribe myself), and because I preload Riptide on the tank and will probably have the first proc of either gone to waste anyway.

Now obviously the heroic version of Spirits of the Sun will outperform both. Just don't make the mistake of thinking Spirits normal is an upgrade if you have the Relic and kindly pass it on to your co-healer (or even offspec healer) that doesn't.

Kommentar von 1047329

If you want to get Relikt von Chi-Ji, you have to create the Kranichkartenset.

For this Deck you need all of those cards:

Ass der Kraniche
Zwei der Kraniche
Drei der Kraniche
Vier der Kraniche
Fünf der Kraniche
Sechs der Kraniche
Sieben der Kraniche
Acht der Kraniche

Using Dunkelmond-Karte der Nebel, you will get randomly one card of Tigerkartenset, Ochsenkartenset, Kranichkartenset or Schlangenkartenset.

So each random card costs
1x Leichtes Pergament
10x Sternenlichttinte
1x Rolle der Weisheit (You can create only one scroll per day!)

The fastest way, to get all of your cards is to trade cards you dont need with other players.

Kommentar von Tonykunn

when this procs it makes light of dawn so shiny

Kommentar von wellcool

Had the pleasure of using this trinket for the first time on Blade Lord Ta'yak, it really is an amazing trinket well worth the gold.

Pro Tip: If you are a Holy paladin like myself, don't use Light of Dawn during Phase 2 as you will quickly find yourself, and your teammates, being blown to the back of the room......

....most people reported seeing a blinding white beam of light and they can't remember what happened next.

Don't know why people log on wowhead just to downvote legit comments, ah well

Double Edit: This has now been fixed as of patch 5.1, rejoice

Kommentar von Sounder

In Challenge Mode, the proc on this trinket will be scaled down from +3027 Spirit to +2682 Spirit, starting in 5.1

Kommentar von 1058937

After upgrade 1: 1201 (+44) intellect 3143 (+116) spirit proc
After upgrade 2: 1247 (+46) intellect 3262 (+119) spirit proc

Kommentar von Luminescence

In a large majority of server's AH prices I've looked at this one tends to be the most expensive. Any reason for that I thought the drop rates for the cards to create each of em were fairly even O.o

Kommentar von perculia

Quality of life change coming in Patch 5.2, according to the patch notes:

Effects for the following trinkets Geister der Sonne, Qin-xis polarisierendes Siegel, and Relikt von Chi-Ji should no longer activate while outside of combat.

Kommentar von 125795

Horridons letzter Atemzug = 1218 int + 573 mp5
Meditationsemblem des tyrannischen Gladiators = 353 PvP Power and Resili + 632 mp5(calculated from 1 spirit ~= 0.56 mp5 in combat) + On Use Health
Relikt von Chi-Ji (2/2) = 1246 int + 736 mp5

Darkmoon trinket is still better for mana regen than the new raidfinder/pvp trinket if you remembered to upgrade DM trink before 5.2 came.

But as for PvP, you will have to decide yourself PvP stats worth ~2 gems and an Oh-%^&*-button for when you are stunned/silenced, OR intellect worth ~6 gems.

Kommentar von maely

Did some quick number-crunching today because I was curious about Challenge Mode/Proving Ground trinkets. Now, due to the way item level downscaling works, you're going to want to avoid ppm trinkets such as Horridon's Last Gasp. For every single one of these trinkets, I added five seconds to the stated cooldown to allow for a few seconds delay in proc or in activation by the user.

Relic of Chi-Ji: 1025in, 894spr
Empty Fruit Barrel: 847in, 847spr
Spirits of the Sun: 847in, 847spr
Qin-Xi's Polarizing Seal: 847in, 847spr
Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault: 847in, 823spr
Price of Progress: 847in, 750spr
Vial of Ichorous Blood: 847in, 679spr
Contemplation of Chi-Ji: 847in, 669spr
Scroll of Revered Ancestors: 847in, 651spr

The Empty Fruit Barrel is assumed to have an icd of 35sec, and remember that I added five more sec for one use every ~40sec.
The Price of Progress was calculated assuming one proc per 60sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.
The Soothing Talisman was calculated assuming one use every 185sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.

Long story short, the Relic of Chi-Ji is definitely the best Challenge Mode healer trinket available. After the Relic of Chi-Ji, I would next look at the Fruit Barrel, one of the 5.0 LFR trinkets, or the Soothing Talisman trinket. All are about equal.

Kommentar von irishlord

my priest just bought this on timeless isle for 50k coins. i see no info on it here. I want it for my mage for the intell.

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Relikt von Chi-Ji

Gegenstandsstufe 476
Wird beim Anlegen gebunden
Einzigartig anlegbar: [Darkmoon Card of the Mists] (1)

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+1.157 Intelligenz

Benötigt Stufe 90
Anlegen: Eure Heilzauber haben eine Chance, Euch 'Segen der Erhabenen' zu gewähren und Eure Willenskraft 20 Sek. lang um 3027 zu erhöhen. (20% Chance, 55 Sek. Abklingzeit) (Procchance: 20%, 55s Abklingzeit)

Verkaufspreis: 24 73 87

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