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Kommentar von 665258

New common high level ink in MoP, created from Nachtschwarze Pigmente

Kommentar von 743836

Scribes, do you feel the walls closing in? If the launch of Cataclysm taught us anything, it's that this will replace Blackfallow Ink, and likely weeks before you can actually make it.

The moral of this story: Trade in your Blackfallow Inks before it's too late.

Kommentar von HigginZ

As of patch day, this has replaced Schwarzfahltinte at the Ink vendor. Wish I knew yesterday what I know now!

Kommentar von 695025

~~As of patch 5.0.4 you can still use Blackfallow ink to trade for other inks, despite what the vendor says.~~

Edit: The vendor now correctly displays what inks she accepts for trade.

The tradeoff is still the same as when blackfallow was current. 10 inks per rare (snowfall, inferno, starlight), and 1 per common.

Kommentar von Cyleste

Just bought some "Ink of the Sea" using Blackfallow Ink. Even though the "bag" marker is grayed out like you can't use it, when you click, it goes into your bag. YAY

Kommentar von knumpcy

As most of you know it is greyed out and yes you can still use Blackfallow ink to purchase from vendors. I did it 10 minutes ago.

Kommentar von VelRav

I envy english-speaking community :)
Our russian localization team translated "Ink of Dreams" to what would be "Ink Again". Well, it's kinda funny, but still, could you beleive it? :))

Kommentar von bqiyue2

Currently on live server, the ink trade-in system is still as old as CTM, means you can use blackfallow ink as currency. However, this may subject to change at any time in the near future.

Also, it's noticeable that starlight ink is not trade-able yet, so you may have to stockpile herbs in order to mill for them.

Kommentar von 865166

Has there been any statements from Blizzard about the possibility of trading these inks to the vendor? Specifically, I'd like to know if they will be able to be used to purchase the Starlight Ink.

Kommentar von busi

a thing many people dont know when they are hunting for DMC's and get tons of pigments for ink of dreams is that they can use Secret Crane Wing Inscription / Secret Tiger Fang Inscription / Secret Tiger Claw Inscription / Secret Serpent Pearl Inscription / Secret Ox Horn Inscription as a Ink of Dreams sink and craft tons of them and sell them to a vendor for 18g and 75s

Kommentar von LafinJack

Having gone a bit further in my scribing career in MoP, I'm now completely sure that the reason there is no vendor that takes Inks of Dreams as currency is because this would absolutely obliterate the market for any item you could buy with them. I've milled so many herbs to get Starlight Ink yet have so little use of IoD that I'm now sitting on nearly 1,500 of the $%^&ers.

There are only so many kites and shoulder inscriptions I can sell and use, and the markets for these are also already flooded by other scribes in the same situation as me.

Kommentar von 817546

Beginning after the maintenance on Tuesday, October 9, ink traders will be converting from accepting Blackfallow Ink to accepting Ink of Dreams and Starlight Ink will become available for purchase. If you’re still holding on to your Blackfallow Ink, your time to trade it in is running short.

Well it's about time!

Kommentar von 420268

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If you do a quest for cooking, even at a low level, you get epicurian awards that you can spend for ingredients and recipes etc to level up. This IoD for inscription means it's for 85+ players only, what would they want with the low level inks you can buy with them from the vendor? The market is already flooded with low level items made by those levelling up their inscription profession so they are not exactly expensive to buy.

1 IoD for 1 Ivory ink that you could get in under 5 minutes from farming low level herbs in a place where you can just %^&*! slap the mobs to death if they attack you. What sense does that make? Hey, I'll do a straight trade, my new Ferrari F40 for your new Ford Escort... Like that's gonna happen. I'd want to save my IoD to make loads of scrolls for guild raids etc if it's that easy to obtain the reagents for it.

I really hoped when I saw the vendor trading for IoD that it would be a lower level drop or a daily quest reward like the epicurian award so the lower profession levels could buy low level inks and recipes to help level up.

Kommentar von 1083312

Heya everyone, I did a calc which will show you your profit should you buy X amount of "lower" MOP herb stacks ; (Not counting Fool's Cap and, ofc, Golden Lotus)

Price per stacks X stacks = Total costs

SHADOW PIGMENTS

Total stacks X 20 = Total herbs.
Total herbs / 4 = Total times you will mill.
Total mill times X 2,5 = Total shadow pigments you'll get.
Total shadow pigments / 2 = Total Ink of Dreams
Total Ink of Dreams / 3 = Total BOP shoulder enchants you'll be able to make.
Total BOP shoulder enchants you'll make X 18,75 = Your revenue from shadow pigments

MISTY PIGMENTS

Total stacks X 20 = Total herbs.
Total herbs / 4 = Total times you will mill.
Total mill times X 0,275 = Total misty pigments you'll get.
Total misty pigments / 2 = Total Starlight Inks

Here come's a decision ; Will you sell the starlight inks in stacks @ the AH, make shoulder enchants with them, or keep them for your daily DMC?

Total Starlight inks X (price on your AH per ink) = Total profit made from misty pigments if inks are sold in stacks.

Total Starlight inks / 3 = Total shoulder enchants you'll be able to make.
Total shoulder enchants you'll make X 18,75 = Your revenue from Misty pigments if you vendor sell.
Total shoulder enchants you'll make X (your AH price) = Your revenue from Misty pigments if you sell on AH.

If you keep them for your DMC then ofc no profits will be made.

(Profit from shadow pigments + Misty pigments) - (Total herb stacks X stack price) = Your profit!

I will give an example ;

I buy 100 stacks of green tea leaf for 30G each. Total cost = 3000G. 100 stacks = 2000 herbs.
I mill 500 times for 2,5 shadow pigments average.
I get 1250 shadow pigments.
I create 625 Ink of Dreams by halving my pigments.
I create 208 BOP shoulder enchants by doing 625 / 3.
My revenue from the BOP shoulder enchats is 3900.

Now comes the misty pigment part.
I milled 500 times, for 0,275 misty pigments average.
Netting me 137,5 misty pigments.
Which I use to make 68 Starlight Inks by halving my pigments.
For the sake of this guide I will use the vendor sell method, netting me a 100% sure profit.
68/3 = 22 Shoulder enchants.
22 X 18,75 = 429,68.

(3900+429,68) - (3000) = 1329,68 sure profit!

That means that should you buy stacks for 30G/each, your profit will be 1329,68 should you sell all the results to the vendor! (Your profit will obviously be more if you sell your results from the misty pigments on the AH, but as prices differ I will not use it as an example.)

Now to the most important part of this, you can calculate your profit very easily next time, should you think about buying stacks of herbs!

What you do is simple ; You take the 4329,68 revenue, and do it minus the total cost of what 100 stacks would cost you!

So, were you thinking of buying 10 stacks of silkweed for 35g each? Easy to calculate!
4329,68 - (35x100) = YOUR PROFIT

10 stacks of silkweed for 44g each you say?
4329,68 - (44x100) = YOUR PROFIT, or, in this case, loss.

The result you can see is that any stack of MOP herbs bought for under 44g will net you a profit!

The "formula" to check YOUR 100% sure vendor profit ;

4329,68 - (x price per herb stack TIMES 100) = Total profit per 100 stacks!

Or, for just 1 stack :

43,29 - (price of herb stack ) = PROFIT! (Although, and this is why I preferred 100 instead of 1, you could end up with a BAD stack, thus severely lowering your profits! My advice ; Go for multiple stacks!

Hope I helped you all, I myself got alot of questions on my realm about this so I thought it would be wise to put this on Wowhead, and be done with it once and for all. :P

Kommentar von 1094085

Dutchfool, your post is inaccurate. You can only mill 400 times from 100 stacks. You need to multiply your result by 4/5 to get the correct result. As long as herbs are cheaper than 34g64s per stack, you will be able to vendor them for profit.

Kommentar von Raz101

For those of you looking for the best possible location for any herbs that can be milled into Shadow Pigment, consider this:

Rain Poppy: Jade Forest: 281 Nodes
Green Tea Leaf: Jade Forest: 760 Nodes
Silkweed: Valley of the Four Winds: 325 Nodes
Snow Lily: Kun-Lai Summit: 374 Nodes
Fool's Cap: Dread Wastes: 225 Nodes

Jade Forest is the obvious choice with 1,041 Nodes to "pick" from... Pun intended!

Also, if you're looking for a path to follow check out wow-profession.com's 500-545 herbalism leveling guide (it's free).

Kommentar von stickshift

The World of Draenor expansion is supposed to release around December 20, 2014 (link is to early scribe info) and it might not be a bad idea to stockpile some of these Ink of Dreams.

Scroll of Wisdom (3 IoDs) is the only skill-up still orange at the 600 skill level. If you despise the fierce competition of AH glyph, herb and ink selling as I do, then you probably already have a bank full of mats.

So, set aside enough inks for an instant 5-10 bumps in your skill level once the expansion hits. This way you can avoid burning up valuable WoD mats and the horror show that is the auction house.

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