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Post by 735456

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Post by Monday

This could be formatted a little better, imo.

Head

Faceguard of Radiant Glory Tier Token - Blackhorn - Reforge (None)

Neck

Guardspike Choker Valor Points - Reforge (None)

Shoulders

Brackenshell Shoulderplates Raid Drop - Morchok - Reforge Dodge to Mastery

Back

Indefatigable Greatcloak Valor Points - Reforge Expertise to Mastery

Chest

Chestguard of Radiant Glory Tier Token - Ultraxion - Reforge (None)

Wrist

Graveheart Bracers Raid Drop - Zon'ozz - Reforge (None)

Hands

Handguards of Radiant Glory Tier Token - Zon'ozz - Reforge Hit to Mastery

Waist

Forgesmelter Waistplate Valor Points - Reforge (None)

Legs

Legguards of Radiant Glory Tier Token - Yor'sahj - Reforge Dodge to Mastery

Feet

Stillheart Warboots Raid Drop - Ultraxion - Reforge (None)

Ring

Hardheart Ring Raid Drop - Shared Boss Loot (Dragon Soul) - Reforge (None)

Ring

Signet of the Resolute Valor Points - Reforge Dodge to Mastery

Trinket

Resolve of Undying Raid Drop - Spine of Deathwing - Reforge (None)

Trinket

Fire of the Deep Valor Points - Reforge (None)

Weapon

Souldrinker Raid Drop - Madness of Deathwing - Reforge (None)

Shield

Blackhorn's Mighty Bulwark Raid Drop - Blackthorn - Reforge (None)

Relic

Stoutheart Talisman Valor Points - Refoge (None)

This, personally, is what I'd do.

Post by livlivliv

Nice!

Post by 735456

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Post by Monday

Yeah, but then the original post would have been longer. And most people are just gonna mouse over the items anyways. Doubt a lot of people will even read all of what I wrote.

I did, and it looks nicer with more formatting =/

Feel free to copy paste my post if you want to change it, but if not that's cool. The information is still there =)

Post by dingbot1

Post by dslg604t

This setup is gonna put you way over the block cap. If you're going CTC>Stam, you should swap Fire of the Deep for Indomitable Pride, and if you're going CTC>Avoidance, then even if you're reforging all your mastery to dodge/parry and gemming dodge/parry, you're gonna be over the cap. Might aswell get Indomitable Pride either way.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/compare?items=77005:77092:77268:77099.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.161:77003:77258:77004.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.140:77186:77006:77246:77232:77112:77201:77117:77193:77226:77084;71459:71563.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.156:71526.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.135:70930.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.140:71522:71470:71523:71443.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.156:71525:71420.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.161:71564.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.140:70934.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.140:62471:69138:71406:71460:70939 Comparing to my current gear, which is gemmed almost entirely stamina, right above the block cap.
http://chardev.org/?profile=274820 for reference.

Good setup to reference though, I'd definitely use Fire of the Deep if I was under the cap.

Check your post and fix it.

Post by wintermark

Yeah, I would say that now the goal is to *just* brush up against CTC without procs (so don't count Windwalk, per se), and then go ultra-heavy on Stamina. Solo-tanking (and 2 healing) Madness 10m-R isn't too difficult when you are sitting around 280k HP on the pull and are safely 102.4'd.

That being the case, I would strongly suggest the Titanguard Wrists from a friendly Smith over the ones listed. (Note the extra socket for a tasty elven peridot or deepholm iolite).

And absolutely use one full-on Stamina trinket. The Heroic Scales of Life are still very much pertinent and can be had for an AH purchase and a little luck on Heroic Shannox, Rhyo, or Staghelm.

Post by Nooska

Rings, error if you are making a BiS list;
Curled Twilight Claw is better than Signet of the Resolute since you will be swiming in CtC stats at heroic levels anyway - there is even a valid argument to be made for the nonheroic 397 version of the curled twilight claw to be better than the VP ring due to mastery being present on the claw and the increasingly smaller maounts of avoidance from parry/dodge rating.
Curled Twilight Claw brings 2.475% block to the table before gemming, while the VP ring only brings 1.89% avoidance to the table pre DR - for me thats less than heroic geared, its more like 1.46% avoidance.

Edit: Reading Comprehension Failure - you can safely ignore the first part since its for "normals", but teh second part still stands (a sI said, I'm les than heroic geared - I have 1 piece of heroic loot that I can equip if I like - Hand of Morchok

Post by 798590

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Post by Nooska

When you are CtC capped and doing T13 you want to convert as much of your CtC coverage (including avoidance) into stamina (through gemming), and anything that you can't convert is better spent in damage stats (hit/exp) to help get the content down faster, and thus reducing incoming damage.
The miniscule gains from converting block to avoidance isn't going to help your healers not keep you alive - I can't remember a single deadly thing in DS thats avoidable or blockable (with the exception of Heroic Ultraxions melee swings if you tank him too soon after using heroic will), so it is far better to convert to stamina and damage than to convert to avoidance.

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Post by Nooska

But it can.
Since the idea is to get to CtC coverage you will be gemming for mastery. Once you hit CtC you can exchange mastery (and avoidance stats) for stamina by changing your gems.
After you have removed all CtC from gems if you are still over CtC, it is by far mor effective to reforge into hit or expertise than it is to make miniscule mitigation changes (your healers will not notice, and they (the healers) do not run out of mana from tank healing, so they (the changes) don't matter).
Reforging to hit or expertise instead of using more secondary stat points to be CtC capped while not making a difference for the healers, will help you bring down bosses faster, and prevent more damage to the tank (you) AND the raid than reforging for miniscule mitigation increases on you alone - the deadly stuff won't be affected anyway.

Post by Ahrendel

I'd take that ring after DPS had theirs. It'd be useful for when tank DPS can matter (Ultraxxion, yay) without sacrificing every bit of CTC.

Post by Nooska

I'd take that ring after DPS had theirs. It'd be useful for when tank DPS can matter (Ultraxxion, yay) without sacrificing every bit of CTC.

Personal choices are personal and loot distribution is individual per guild.
That does not negate that it is better than the VP ring, and that there is nothing about that says dps apart from the measly +10 str socket bonus with a red socket - which as a tank you could safely ignore.